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2012-11-03 12:32:36 AM
Did she look like this?

americanlivewire.com
 
2012-11-03 05:41:35 AM
The most damning part is that people actually fall for it.
 
2012-11-03 05:44:30 AM
This is certainly scary, but on the same page:
Woman injured in sex toy mishap
 
2012-11-03 05:45:28 AM
If you're dumb enough to fall for this you probably shouldn't be voting in the first place.
 
2012-11-03 05:47:07 AM

Blue_Blazer: This is certainly scary, but on the same page:
Woman injured in sex toy mishap


Bonus: from 2009
 
2012-11-03 05:50:34 AM

Pfft!: If you're dumb enough to fall for this you probably shouldn't be voting in the first place.


So vote Republican
 
2012-11-03 06:04:56 AM
This is getting farking ridiculous.

I think, if Silver "wins" this election too, he will have an ethical imperative to stop. Foretelling the future and being accurate at it is a recipe for making people increasingly desperate to create a change.
 
2012-11-03 06:14:44 AM

starsrift: This is getting farking ridiculous.

I think, if Silver "wins" this election too, he will have an ethical imperative to stop. Foretelling the future and being accurate at it is a recipe for making people increasingly desperate to create a change.


Did I miss the part where the party was identified?

I agree about polling information, though I would include all reports of the polls.
 
2012-11-03 06:28:12 AM

starsrift: This is getting farking ridiculous.

I think, if Silver "wins" this election too, he will have an ethical imperative to stop. Foretelling the future and being accurate at it is a recipe for making people increasingly desperate to create a change.


Like with anything, he's proving that a well made model has a fine enough accuracy to be a useful tool. Not to mention he's shown it can be applied to multiple fields. That can only be helpful.

The problem is people taking advantage of the tool to do evil. And really, our country needed election reform before Silver came on scene.
 
2012-11-03 06:30:38 AM
You know, you'd expect this kind of BS from some wasteland post-civil war African craphole country, not from the supposed "Leader of the free world", if that term means anything anymore these days.
 
2012-11-03 06:30:46 AM
Speaking of evil, I'm starting to see ads here on Fark from Freedomworks.
 
2012-11-03 06:30:52 AM
Happening in Seattle, too

Non-story. Overzealous lovers of the process
 
2012-11-03 06:31:16 AM

jcooli09: Did I miss the part where the party was identified?


TFA didn't and I'm not pointing fingers at any party in particular, either.
 
2012-11-03 06:34:10 AM
I read about this in the paper today. Even here in Oregon, a solidly blue state, we had a report of an election volunteer filling in any blank votes on mail-in ballots for Republican candidates.

This shiat is going to be messy.
 
2012-11-03 06:38:19 AM

zerkalo: Happening in Seattle, too

Non-story. Overzealous lovers of the process


Do I have to add that the GOP was singled out by the elections board named the GOP as the offending party?
 
2012-11-03 06:38:57 AM

zerkalo: zerkalo: Happening in Seattle, too

Non-story. Overzealous lovers of the process

Do I have to add that the GOP was singled out by the elections board named the GOP as the offending party?


Yeah, I do. Do I must.
 
2012-11-03 06:45:36 AM

Summoner101: And really, our country needed election reform before Silver came on scene.


You want my opinion? No? Too bad.

SCANTEGRITY
CONDORCET


Also, have electors appointed so that the winner takes two of the electoral votes in each state they win, and have the rest determined proportionally. States with only 3 electors become winner-take all, and there's still a tremendous benefit for wanting to appeal to a large number of states (150 electoral votes go to the winners of those states: 2 to the winner, and you're guaranteed to get at least one more from each state you win), but there's also a disincentive to ignoring states that you don't expect to win.
 
2012-11-03 06:55:04 AM

Summoner101: Like with anything, he's proving that a well made model has a fine enough accuracy to be a useful tool. Not to mention he's shown it can be applied to multiple fields. That can only be helpful.

The problem is people taking advantage of the tool to do evil. And really, our country needed election reform before Silver came on scene.


The flipside of desperation is hopelessness. "Silver forecasts my state to go [color]... no point in me voting". There's that, too.

Technophilia is fine, to point. But not every technology is intrinsically good or 'helpful'. I direct your attention to the question of Iran and nuclear technology...
 
2012-11-03 07:00:57 AM
fusillade762:
I read about this in the paper today. Even here in Oregon, a solidly blue state, we had a report of an election volunteer filling in any blank votes on mail-in ballots for Republican candidates.

This shiat is going to be messy.


This is just what can be expected when politicians crank up the partisan rhetoric to frenetic levels and politics doesn't just incorporate absolutist religion, it becomes absolutist religion. The "true believers" get it in their mind that it's okay to destroy the village in order to save it.

Or, you know, maybe this was just a Democrat trying to make their opponents look bad.
 
2012-11-03 07:02:16 AM
Well, what am I *supposed* to do? Give my ballot to one of those union thugs in the blue uniforms who keep bringing me letters full of bills the "government" expects me to pay, as if my learning the Secrets to Picking Up Women the Liberals DON'T Want Me to Know isn't my Constitutional right?
 
2012-11-03 07:02:23 AM

starsrift: Summoner101: Like with anything, he's proving that a well made model has a fine enough accuracy to be a useful tool. Not to mention he's shown it can be applied to multiple fields. That can only be helpful.

The problem is people taking advantage of the tool to do evil. And really, our country needed election reform before Silver came on scene.

The flipside of desperation is hopelessness. "Silver forecasts my state to go [color]... no point in me voting". There's that, too.

Technophilia is fine, to point. But not every technology is intrinsically good or 'helpful'. I direct your attention to the question of Iran and nuclear technology...


Red herring. Overzealous Sufi.
 
2012-11-03 07:25:35 AM

zerkalo: zerkalo: Happening in Seattle, too

Non-story. Overzealous lovers of the process

Do I have to add that the GOP was singled out by the elections board named the GOP as the offending party?


ACORN!!!!!
 
2012-11-03 07:31:14 AM
They are merely doing those poor dirty democats a service. We all know all dems are just welfare queens without reliale transportation. Are we really going to demonize the kind hearted republicans who DO have their cars and ensure that their votes go exactly where they belong*?

/your definition or belong can be either the ballot box or a trash can and for the purposes of this statement are interchangeable
 
2012-11-03 07:33:29 AM

Summoner101: The most damning part is that people actually fall for it.


Yeah, but I'm really surprised no one who knows it's BS and is extremely pissed off at what some douchebag is trying to pull on them and their neighbors punches them out first.


I guess they could have a walklist of little old ladies who got absentee ballots.

Free Radical: ACORN!!!!!


YEAH.

It's SO HORRIBLE what ACORN did - they TURNED IN voter registration forms and LEFT IT UP TO the officials to verify they were eligible (y'know, doing their f--king job) so they DIDN'T accidentally throw out any registrations from real people. They were *too* inclusive.

Because in a world where Mike Dick does really exist (probably more than one too), sometimes you just don't f--king know.

/god, I hate people
//yet I'm up at 7 on a freaking Saturday cause I'm gonna go make sure more people know where they're voting + combat some disinformation
///some people are okay I guess
 
2012-11-03 07:43:33 AM

jcooli09: Did I miss the part where the party was identified?


They didn't identify the party of the "collector", but given that this happened in Very Liberal Boulder, we can make a pretty good guess.

How liberal is Boulder, you ask? In 2008, they went for Obama 72-26 over McCain. Their very popular congressman is an openly gay, very intelligent Jewish guy, none of which is controversial in Boulder, much of which surely pisses off the right-wingers.

So, it's just a guess, but if you're pulling dirty tricks in Boulder, you're probably trying to disenfranchise Democrats. If this was happening in Colorado Springs, I'd say you were going after Republicans.
 
2012-11-03 07:44:53 AM
To be clear, here in the mountains, I told an Obama volunteer that I was going to do the mail in ballot, and she very nicely offered to come back later in the afternoon to give me a ride to the post office so I could fill it out and mail it. When I asked (rather poorly) if she would do this even if I wasn't voting for Obama, she replied that she cared more about the process of getting everyone out to vote than the outcome.
 
2012-11-03 07:45:35 AM

jcooli09: starsrift: This is getting farking ridiculous.

I think, if Silver "wins" this election too, he will have an ethical imperative to stop. Foretelling the future and being accurate at it is a recipe for making people increasingly desperate to create a change.

Did I miss the part where the party was identified?

I agree about polling information, though I would include all reports of the polls.


There was no need to name the party.

Was there?
 
2012-11-03 07:50:51 AM
Why don't they just call them on the Obamaphone and take the vote over e mail ?
 
2012-11-03 07:51:58 AM
"Hello. My name is Elder Romney. And I would like to share with you this most amazing book."
 
2012-11-03 07:54:04 AM

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Why don't they just call them on the Obamaphone and take the vote over e mail ?


0/10. Your troll failed. Why are you a failure? Why do you make your mother cry with the knowledge that her child fails at everything?

You should be ashamed of yourself, you failing failure who fails.
 
2012-11-03 07:54:06 AM

starsrift:
The flipside of desperation is hopelessness. "Silver forecasts my state to go [color]... no point in me voting". There's that, too.


I actually think I would find myself more inclined to vote if my state was going against my proclivity. As it is, I live in DC. We're going blue. If I vote, it's really just to help the popular vote and kick out some local dbags.
 
2012-11-03 07:56:55 AM
All this type of crap tends to cancel itself out in the end. That said, if we had a unified voting system, it would be harder to pull off this type of stuff.
 
2012-11-03 08:03:53 AM
It speaks volumes of the GOP that so many people are assuming by default that Republicans are doing this.
 
2012-11-03 08:08:40 AM

King Something: It speaks volumes of the GOP that so many people are assuming by default that Republicans are doing this.


You'll know for sure if/when Republicans start loudly denouncing this incident.
 
2012-11-03 08:17:56 AM

King Something: It speaks volumes of the GOP that so many people are assuming by default that Republicans are doing this.


Welcome to Fark
 
2012-11-03 08:19:08 AM

stoli n coke: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Why don't they just call them on the Obamaphone and take the vote over e mail ?

0/10. Your troll failed. Why are you a failure? Why do you make your mother cry with the knowledge that her child fails at everything?

You should be ashamed of yourself, you failing failure who fails.


Did I not give you a dollar once at the Renaissance Festival for that same speech ?
You had green and red tights and hat with peacock feathers.
 
2012-11-03 08:19:27 AM

King Something: It speaks volumes of the GOP that so many people are assuming by default that Republicans are doing this.


Battleground state with a marijuana initiative on the ballot, which is guaranteed to bring in young voters. Obama leads by double digits with young voters. It ain't rocket surgery.
 
2012-11-03 08:21:51 AM

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: stoli n coke: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Why don't they just call them on the Obamaphone and take the vote over e mail ?

0/10. Your troll failed. Why are you a failure? Why do you make your mother cry with the knowledge that her child fails at everything?

You should be ashamed of yourself, you failing failure who fails.

Did I not give you a dollar once at the Renaissance Festival for that same speech ?
You had green and red tights and hat with peacock feathers.


You went to a Renaissance festival? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

My judgement of you as a failure was just validated.
 
2012-11-03 08:22:37 AM

Smoking GNU: You know, you'd expect this kind of BS from some wasteland post-civil war African craphole country, not from the supposed "Leader of the free world", if that term means anything anymore these days.


We should get a bunch of guns and force other countries to democracy! Cuase wwe ahr so gud at it!
 
2012-11-03 08:35:57 AM

fusillade762: I read about this in the paper today. Even here in Oregon, a solidly blue state, we had a report of an election volunteer filling in any blank votes on mail-in ballots for Republican candidates.


Seems to me that someone charged with unloading a ballot box could do this just as easily as someone charged with opening mail-in ballots. It shouldn't be easy at all, of course.
 
2012-11-03 08:37:09 AM

INeedAName: If I vote, it's really just to help the popular vote and kick out some local dbags.


This. Even if the presidential race is hopeless from your point of view, there are local offices and issues, and third parties sometimes actually have chance sometimes at the local level.
 
2012-11-03 08:46:16 AM
link to the Oregon incident.

GOP poll worker was filling in a straight GOP ticket for all the bubbles left un-filled.

farking un-american shiatholes.
 
2012-11-03 08:49:23 AM

cman: King Something: It speaks volumes of the GOP that so many people are assuming by default that Republicans are doing this.

Welcome to Fark


While I agree, and that was my first thought too...

Who do YOU think was likely responsible?

My thoughts? Low level Republican Party asshole, or an over zealous Obama supporter that actuall IS mailing them in.
 
2012-11-03 08:55:35 AM

cman: King Something: It speaks volumes of the GOP that so many people are assuming by default that Republicans are doing this.

Welcome to Fark


I appreciate that your statement completely refutes the idea that the GOP has ever done anything questionable in regards to the election. You are a paragon of truth and information sir.

/Now I expect a 'but..but...but dumbocrats' response
 
2012-11-03 08:57:14 AM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Summoner101: The most damning part is that people actually fall for it.

Yeah, but I'm really surprised no one who knows it's BS and is extremely pissed off at what some douchebag is trying to pull on them and their neighbors punches them out first.


I guess they could have a walklist of little old ladies who got absentee ballots.

Free Radical: ACORN!!!!!

YEAH.

It's SO HORRIBLE what ACORN did - they TURNED IN voter registration forms and LEFT IT UP TO the officials to verify they were eligible (y'know, doing their f--king job) so they DIDN'T accidentally throw out any registrations from real people. They were *too* inclusive.

Because in a world where Mike Dick does really exist (probably more than one too), sometimes you just don't f--king know.

/god, I hate people
//yet I'm up at 7 on a freaking Saturday cause I'm gonna go make sure more people know where they're voting + combat some disinformation
///some people are okay I guess


Thank you!
 
2012-11-03 09:00:19 AM

starsrift: jcooli09: Did I miss the part where the party was identified?

TFA didn't and I'm not pointing fingers at any party in particular, either.


In this particular case, I'm going to vote "Republican."
 
2012-11-03 09:03:12 AM
Non-issue. Political card check.
 
2012-11-03 09:06:27 AM
Our voting machines were picked up by a black helicopter.

Is that bad?
 
2012-11-03 09:08:46 AM

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Why don't they just call them on the Obamaphone and take the vote over e mail ?


RING RING RING RING OBAMAPHOOOOONE.

/you
//farking
///toll
 
2012-11-03 09:15:43 AM

stoli n coke: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: stoli n coke: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Why don't they just call them on the Obamaphone and take the vote over e mail ?

0/10. Your troll failed. Why are you a failure? Why do you make your mother cry with the knowledge that her child fails at everything?

You should be ashamed of yourself, you failing failure who fails.

Did I not give you a dollar once at the Renaissance Festival for that same speech ?
You had green and red tights and hat with peacock feathers.

You went to a Renaissance festival? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

My judgement of you as a failure was just validated.


Hob Gasping approves.
 
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