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2012-11-02 10:56:28 PM  
7 votes:

ShadowWolf: BronyMedic: Too bad they didn't toss him in the garbage compactor, and get rid of him with the rest of the trash.

/yes. I know he's a human being, and killing is bad.
//I also know that he diddles kiddies.

Noooo... You know he had pictures of them. Looking and touching two different things.
Just pointing out your jump to conclusion is probable, but there is no evidence for that.


So, he doesn't diddle kids himself (yet), he just creates a market for the professional kiddie diddlers, and continues the victimization of those children long after the act is finished?

I stand by my statement.
2012-11-02 08:45:25 PM  
4 votes:
i46.tinypic.com
2012-11-03 01:46:21 AM  
3 votes:

12349876: Amazingly, possession of violent movies and video games implies you enjoy violent movies and video games but not necessarily committing that violence in real life.

Possession of child pornography therefore...


Also amazingly enough, centuries of human sexual behavior have also taught us that your preference in pornography runs a straight line to what turns you on sexually. Therefore, if you're in possession of significant quantities of child pornography, well, there's a reason your parole officer wants to know why you went past that elementary school yesterday.
2012-11-02 11:13:59 PM  
3 votes:

CruJones: We all agree pedophiles are sick.


Sick implies they can get better.

Pedophilia is considered morally wrong thus a choice legally, but it's not a real choice. Not moreso than any other kind of sexual wiring. Most people are straight. Another large bunch are gay. Another large bunch like roleplay, S&M, whipped cream, or what have you. As the bell curve gets on, you get the weirder stuff: true asexuality, cutting, vomit etc. If you keep going the whole way out it goes from harmless to weird to harmful: bestiality, pedophilia, rape.

If you can't turn a straight person gay or a gay person straight, I don't see how you'd hold out any hope for correcting a much larger problem with the same wiring. Pedophiles and other harmful sexual deviants are simply broken by nature. Only by changing their very nature could you hope to cure them. I don't know if that really qualifies at an illness at that point.
2012-11-02 11:03:57 PM  
3 votes:

CruJones: We all agree pedophiles are sick. But is it possible that digital porn may keep some from actually committing real life crimes? Not a position, just a question.


Pedophilia is not a static sexual orientation where someone simply is attracted sexually to prepubescent children. It's a progressive escalation of behaviors. While not all pedophiles are predatory in nature, child pornography is a way for them to escalate their fantasies. The really freaky thing about their pathology, though, is that they don't see it as harming a child - but loving them the way the child wants to be loved, in only a way they can understand.

Besides that, child pornography continues the victimization of the child long after even the initial perpetrator is captured and justice is done.
2012-11-02 10:58:04 PM  
3 votes:
We all agree pedophiles are sick. But is it possible that digital porn may keep some from actually committing real life crimes? Not a position, just a question.
2012-11-02 10:54:00 PM  
3 votes:

BronyMedic: Too bad they didn't toss him in the garbage compactor, and get rid of him with the rest of the trash.

/yes. I know he's a human being, and killing is bad.
//I also know that he diddles kiddies.


Noooo... You know he had pictures of them. Looking and touching two different things.
Just pointing out your jump to conclusion is probable, but there is no evidence for that.
2012-11-02 08:46:00 PM  
3 votes:
Too bad they didn't toss him in the garbage compactor, and get rid of him with the rest of the trash.

/yes. I know he's a human being, and killing is bad.
//I also know that he diddles kiddies.
2012-11-03 02:00:38 AM  
2 votes:

12349876: Where do you get the idea that I'm white knighting it? Nowhere have I condoned the abuse of children. Those people should be locked up, and those who support them by looking at it should be too. All I'm saying in this thread is that your absolute 100% assertion about the connection between orientation and porn usage to crime is not 100%


I've stated it's my personal feeling on the matter, and YMMV. I just feel that after saying the things you have said in here, you really need to make it clear that is the stance you have.
2012-11-03 01:48:21 AM  
2 votes:

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: 12349876: Amazingly, possession of violent movies and video games implies you enjoy violent movies and video games but not necessarily committing that violence in real life.

Possession of child pornography therefore...

Also amazingly enough, centuries of human sexual behavior have also taught us that your preference in pornography runs a straight line to what turns you on sexually. Therefore, if you're in possession of significant quantities of child pornography, well, there's a reason your parole officer wants to know why you went past that elementary school yesterday.


www.thedailyrock.com
2012-11-03 12:35:58 AM  
2 votes:
I'd like to point out that anyone with the name "brony" in their user name is guaranteed to be an expert on children and bizarre sexual fantasies, so you should all listen to them.
2012-11-02 11:26:52 PM  
2 votes:

BronyMedic: ArcadianRefugee: The US.

"The Supreme Court today [Monday, May 19, 2008] upheld, by a 7-2 vote, controversial provisions of a child pornography law that made it illegal to promote material presented as child pornography even if the material in question isn't actually child pornography. Or involve actual children."

Bolded the important part of that statement. It doesn't say what you think it says.


Actually, it says precisely what I think it says: material which is not, in fact, child pornography, can be prosecuted as such.
2012-11-02 11:13:35 PM  
2 votes:

kriegfusion: computer generated animations have no victims, therefore it should be completely legal in my opinion. For Brony, i'd like to see specifics on this; not that I doubt there can be some serious consequences with *specific* CP, but I think in a society where active sub-18 and adult sexual relations take place, if it was accepted and not thought of as wrong, there would be very little in the way of negative consequences.


Please don't insult the intelligence of your readers by attempting to equate predatory pedophilia and ephebophilia with a 17 year old having sex with a 25 year old consensually.
2012-11-02 09:10:26 PM  
2 votes:
This is why we have the hero tag, subs.
2012-11-03 01:23:12 PM  
1 votes:
Apparently, in the Netherlands at least, it's possible to have a reasoned discussion about this subject.

What if you could give paedophiles drawings of child pornography to steer their impulses in a safe direction? This controversial proposal has garnered support from the Dutch anti-child pornography lobby: "We're for everything that helps combat abuse".

People become paedophiles during their earliest periods of development. The sexual orientation cannot be cured or changed, but it can be managed. This is the opinion of leading brain researcher Dick Swaab at the Netherlands Institute for Neuroscience (NIN). It underpins his call for electronic child pornography, for example in comic strip form.

"By making child pornography available, we can steer paedophiles' impulses in the right direction and that should reduce child abuse," Professor Swaab argues. But for many people, the idea will take some getting used to.

"The common view is that pornography exacerbates the problem. But the well-known United States sexologist, Professor Milton Diamond, has shown in Eastern Europe that pornography reduces the problem. People are able to give vent to their impulses without harming victims. This is something that should be tested."

Unexpected support
Professor Swaab's plan can count on support from an unexpected source: the Dutch anti-paedophile group, Stopkinderpornonu (Stop-child-pornography-now). The group's position is clear: possession of child pornography and the abuse of children should be combated in every way possible. However, it is willing to consider this proposal because real children would not be harmed. Spokesman Chris Hölsken goes as far as to describe it as a really good idea.

"... because we're fighting to stop child pornography and child abuse. That means that every form and every method should be studied carefully. If fake pornographic images, such as in cartoons, can lead to stopping child abuse, we support that."


I bolded what I consider to be the important part.

Radio Netherlands Worldwide
2012-11-03 12:34:13 PM  
1 votes:

SnyderCat: filter: Still- are these pornographic images? Or nudes?

Wouldn't you like to know?


Gimmeabreak... we live in world where home bathtub photos are illegal.... meanwhile on reality TV we have kid beauty contest monsters.
2012-11-03 10:52:51 AM  
1 votes:
legalize prostitution. and pedophilia will all but disappear, but there will be FAR less of it.

see most of these guys are socially awkward, and hence turn towards children.
2012-11-03 09:09:30 AM  
1 votes:
FTA: Jobless Eaton, from Tiverton, Devon, admitted 18 counts of making or possessing indecent images of children.
Exeter Crown Court gave him an eight-month suspended sentence and ordered him to go on a sex offenders programme as part of a two-year supervision order.


Yeah that seems a-ok to me, years in jail for drug addicts who harmed no one but themselves with their crime and let the pedo off with an 8 month suspended sentence.

Also, did he make it or possess it? It seems to me there is a huge difference between the two....

My two cents; These people should be locked away in an asylum and studied. What triggers these types of behaviors and inclinations in people? What treatments could be perfected to eliminate these behaviors? Surgical castration would be a must if they are to ever be released back to the public. There are ways to remove most or all sexual urges completely, although I suspect they would just move to less sexual and more physically harming behaviors. I honestly believe it is more of a "dominance over the weak and helpless" that turns these sickos on, not the pre-pubescent nude form.

/I may be wrong.... 
//the more reptilian part of my brain just wants to blood eagle the lot of them
2012-11-03 08:37:42 AM  
1 votes:
www.advancedanime.com
"Oh, Hai! What are you guys looking at?"
2012-11-03 05:26:52 AM  
1 votes:

CruJones: We all agree pedophiles are sick.


No, we don't. We don't even agree on what pedophilia is. Some of us may not even be clear in their heads what exactly they mean by it. Some people have a horrible vision of evil victimization of children, and everything that falls under the head of "pedo" gets generalized that way -- the same way popular culture has formed a stereotypical image of the evil, child-corrupting "dope pusher", and then we end up imposing draconic sentences on harmless people for selling cannabis, and people approve it because you don't approve of dope pushers, do you? Why even defend dope pushers? I bet you're a dope pusher too. I hope you die painfully before you get a chance to hurt more children.

Everybody needs somebody to hate. The perfect person to hate is some extreme malevolent figure with no redeeming virtues, even if you have to imagine him. It's much more satisfying to pretend the object of your scorn is this imaginary punching-bag than a real person with nuanced views and yada-yada. This is why a political thread commented by liberals, feminists, libertarians, and conservatives consists mostly of shiat-flinging at "libtards", "feminazis", "teabaggers" and "neocons" who do not exist.

But is it possible that digital porn may keep some from actually committing real life crimes? Not a position, just a question.

Well, the digital porn has been criminalized, so you could say that the law has accomplished the opposite. Alcohol prohibition didn't prevent crime, after all. It multiplied it. If the narrow question is, "Will people be less likely to fark kids if we let them wank to CP instead?" my common sense tells me that it wouldn't really matter. Speaking for myself (YMMV) what I wack to is very different from what I even attempt when I get the opportunity. Take anal, for example, which looks hot on video but is an awkward, messy, smelly ordeal in practice. Anal video might motivate you to try to persuade someone to do it (and good luck with that) though if there is someone in your life you're yearning to bugger, it's certainly going to be no substitute for the real thing. Contrariwise, if you've been pestering the object of your affection for buttsex, deleting your anal porn will not call off the dogs. Either you're going to engage in a certain kind of sex, or not. The porn in your archive might reflect what you want to do, but it doesn't determine it.
2012-11-03 02:39:42 AM  
1 votes:
I am completely shocked that people print out porn.
2012-11-03 02:14:10 AM  
1 votes:
Death to all pedophiles. fark em.
2012-11-03 01:59:14 AM  
1 votes:

BronyMedic: Of all the things to white knight, of all the social injustices to champion, you choose to white knight Kiddie Porn?


Where do you get the idea that I'm white knighting it? Nowhere have I condoned the abuse of children. Those people should be locked up, and those who support them by looking at it should be too. All I'm saying in this thread is that your absolute 100% assertion about the connection between orientation and porn usage to crime is not 100%
2012-11-03 01:46:19 AM  
1 votes:

12349876: Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: 12349876: Why draw the line there? If images promote the action the images depict, why should we have violent movies and video games?

Amazingly, possession of violent movies and video games implies you enjoy violent movies and video games but not necessarily committing that violence in real life.

Possession of child pornography therefore...


Of all the things to white knight, of all the social injustices to champion, you choose to white knight Kiddie Porn?

Damn, man.
2012-11-03 01:36:27 AM  
1 votes:

12349876: Why draw the line there? If images promote the action the images depict, why should we have violent movies and video games?


Amazingly, possession of violent movies and video games implies you enjoy violent movies and video games.

Possession of child pornography therefore...
2012-11-03 01:34:03 AM  
1 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: If it truly is a 'personal' thing, forgive me; I'll shut up now (and don't really want to know any more). Like I said: just surprised me.


Yeah, it is a personal thing. I'll admit I have bias in this arena of debate. Especially when I say that the majority of CSA goes unreported until later in life.
2012-11-03 01:29:11 AM  
1 votes:

farkingismybusiness: What exactly are you arguing against? I have no idea what feminism has to do with this.


Here's the questions I'm trying to get answers to.

What makes a simulated image of one type of crime different from another type? Why should we be inconsistent?

Why does a simulated image of one act encourage someone to do that act but not a simulated image of another act?

The feminism relation here is that some of the fringe elements believe sexualized images of women cause men to become rapists, the same argument some are using here for banning CGI porn.
2012-11-03 01:03:16 AM  
1 votes:

Carousel Beast: You have gone completely off the deep end lately in nearly every thread you've been in. I think it's time you take a vacation - I think your job stress is bleeding over into your home life.


This topic has nothing to do with job stress. I hold a special hatred in my heart for pedophiles and their white knights. And I sure as heck wouldn't share the details on FARK with a group of people well known for calling sexual abuse victims attention whores and making fun of them.

But I appreciate the concern, even if it is in jest. I have a vacation next week, actually. :)

12349876: Since when is intellectual consistency creepy?


You're not being intellectual. You're asking loaded questions and trying to trap people in misleading statements.
2012-11-03 01:02:50 AM  
1 votes:
Two things this article taught me.

1) throwing away an illegal item is distribution of said item
2) Putting pictures of child porn in someones garbage is a great way to make them look bad.
2012-11-03 12:43:27 AM  
1 votes:

BronyMedic: I am? Really? Where? Because I'm pretty sure what I said was the fact that they are a priest or nun does not mean they are being truthful on the virtue of it's own. When it comes to celebacy, 100% of Nuns and Priests are NOT celibate as they claim. While a large majority might be, it is fallacious to claim that is the case because we know it not to be.


From your 12:18:36 posting

Me: Do you wish to claim that 100% of Priests and Nuns aren't celibate?

You: Of course I do.

My point is that if even a few priests and nuns can stay celibate, then so can a few pedophiles.

And from that pdf you cited earlier, it cites a study that says viewing child pornography alone is not a risk factor for committing contact offenses (2nd full paragraph page 12) and concludes that online and offline behavior can be very different (last full paragraph page 13)
2012-11-03 12:29:21 AM  
1 votes:
I'm curious how a picture of a naked boy would do harm, if a boy found it? I mean, all the finder
would have to do is look down and see the (roughly) same thing..Provided they were simply JUST
nudie pics. But that same logic doesn't hold true when mom and dad buy the kid the latest splaterfest
game or movie..I'm just a little dubious to the idea of harm of that..Especially if it's the same gender.

/just askin the questions...
2012-11-03 12:26:32 AM  
1 votes:

OKO: BronyMedic: Because a pedophile who claims he's never molested a child or broke the law is just one who hasn't been caught yet. They both destroy the lives of their victims, and the majority of their crimes go unreported.

[citation required].


Time Magazine: Most Child Abuse goes Unreported
Why does so much child abuse go unreported?

The fact of the matter is that most sexual abuse between an adult and a child is done within their family or sphere of close adults, and that the majority of it goes unreported or unrecognized. In addition, female offenders are far more likely to get away with their crimes than male offenders.
2012-11-03 12:18:36 AM  
1 votes:

12349876: So you're claiming it's impossible to stay celibate for a lifetime?


If you want to falsely assume Pedophilic Sexual Orientations are the same as Adult Sexual Orientations, yes, I am. The only ways a pedophile is going to stay celibate in terms of pediatric sexual abuse is either 1) Isolating him//herself completely from the age group they are attracted to, or 2) the development of an effective pharmacological treatment which can treat the neurological features of pedophilia, or therapy which can treat the third sexual orientation.

Pedophilia does not replace sexual orientation like heterosexuality/homosexuality, it either develops in lieu of it, or develops separately from it. It's the way people like Sandusky can bone their wives one night, and then rape a boy in the shower the next night.

12349876: Do you wish to claim that 100% of Priests and Nuns aren't celibate?


Of course I do. Because we know for a fact that's the case. In addition, the Catholic church has been rocked by numerous sex scandals regarding the cover-up of predatory pedophiles.
2012-11-03 12:12:45 AM  
1 votes:

12349876: Why draw the line there? If images promote the action the images depict, why should we have violent movies and video games?


Because we have research that shows that "violent movies and video games" aren't primary escalatory impetus for violent crimes, but rather a moral panic based on poor understanding of the pathology behind violent offenders, especially those who - for lack of a better word - snap under years of peer abuse at school or work.

ArcadianRefugee: I would counter that it takes advantage of and even detracts from the above by creating a substitute outlet.


Except that in reality it enables an escalation of their fantasies, which is why in the last 20 years, with the wide availability of cheap high speed internet access and easily used anonymous browsing and darknet software, it has seen new prominance since international law enforcement cracked down on IRC and Usenet rings in the 90s..
2012-11-03 12:08:11 AM  
1 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: To be completely honest, I am not interested in the specifics of the case. I'm more curious why Brony automatically lumps pedophiles and child molestors together as equals and wherein he draws the line


Why do I lump them together? Because a pedophile who claims he's never molested a child or broke the law is just one who hasn't been caught yet. They both destroy the lives of their victims, and the majority of their crimes go unreported. For every Sandusky, you have thousands of others who will never be caught until decades after their crimes.

Where do I draw the line?

When they can be isolated away from children, or successfully treated to not have a third sexual orientation which leads them to get hard-ons every time they see a toddler on the playground is when I'll be happy..
2012-11-02 11:58:05 PM  
1 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: Why you continue to claim that my understanding of the law is faulty is bizarre to me, despite the fact that I repeatedly point out exactly what aspect of the law I am questioning, and wondering about your vantage point.


My vantage point is that while I find things like Shota-Ai and Lolicon distasteful, there is no victimization of children done by drawing them. Creating digitally altered child pornography, on the other hand, fuels the demand for child pornography, and leads to further victimization of children. The two aren't even comparable.

ArcadianRefugee: how about 'ad hominum'? When you can't answer a question, attack the questioner.


Ad Hominem would assume that I am arguing you're wrong because you're "full retard". I'm not. But, to add to that:

people.virginia.edu

ArcadianRefugee: Me? I say no. The two should be treated exactly the same: neither should be criminal -- well, not a felony, anyway -- as neither has a victim. Now, if you want to claim "society is the victim!" (like "Drunk in Public" laws do) then fine, but that's a wimpy low-level misdemeanor.


Society is not the only victim. Creation of fraudulant, but digitally altered child pornography that is not able to be differentiated from actual child pornography continued to further a market that fuels the victimization of children by predatory pedophiles, human trafficing rings, and organized child sex groups both in the United States and abroad.
2012-11-02 11:56:09 PM  
1 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: BronyMedic: ArcadianRefugee: Actually, it says precisely what I think it says: material which is not, in fact, child pornography, can be prosecuted as such.

If the material is promoted as child pornography.

So no, it doesn't say what you think it says. Taking the previous example of Hentai, the material is presented as adult entertainment, not child pornography.

So? Promotion? So, if I 'promote' something as an actual murder, despite no one having been murdered, it should be prosecutable as such? That's ridiculous.

Last I checked, promoting something as something it was not was fraud, not (CP, murder, whatever).


You really should read up on that case. Or at least just the link BronyMedic so helpfully provided. The statute at the center of the issue was pandering child porn. Further, the person distributing the digitally altered image was the cop. Finally, the court said that its ruling doesn't impact "virtual" child porn.
2012-11-02 11:44:40 PM  
1 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: So if the same was done -- photo was digitally regressed to appear 12 even though it was an of-aged model -- and was promoted as "adult entertainment", then it should be entirely legal, despite the fact that the end result (the image) is exactly the farking same. Right?

"Sorry, your honor, that's not child pornography, that's merely 'adult entertainment'."

Right, and it's not 'child molestation', it's 'man-boy love'.


Wow. You just went full retard.

So I've gone from pointing out your understanding of the law is false and you trying to point out the law is broken because someone might get arrested for reading a hentai novel, to being a champion of child molesters?

images.wikia.com

people.virginia.edu
people.virginia.edu
2012-11-02 11:36:37 PM  
1 votes:

BronyMedic: ArcadianRefugee: Actually, it says precisely what I think it says: material which is not, in fact, child pornography, can be prosecuted as such.

You might also want to read more on the actual case.

Wiki Link to the US v. Williams (2008) entry. The whole issue at hand was could the person be charged and convicted for trafficking in child pornography because he was passing around pictures of women which he tried to promote and distribute as child pornography, not drawings or hentai. The photo was digitally regressed to appear 12 even though it was an of-aged model, and was promoted as actual child pornography.


So if the same was done -- photo was digitally regressed to appear 12 even though it was an of-aged model -- and was promoted as "adult entertainment", then it should be entirely legal, despite the fact that the end result (the image) is exactly the farking same. Right?

"Sorry, your honor, that's not child pornography, that's merely 'adult entertainment'."

Right, and it's not 'child molestation', it's 'man-boy love'.
2012-11-02 11:35:51 PM  
1 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: So? Promotion? So, if I 'promote' something as an actual murder, despite no one having been murdered, it should be prosecutable as such? That's ridiculous.

Last I checked, promoting something as something it was not was fraud, not (CP, murder, whatever).


If you take an 18 year old model who has the body of a 12 year old, and digitally alter the photograph to resemble child pornography, then yes. Semantics matter. Your fraud turns into a federal sex crime charge the moment you try to spread it around to all the other pedos on the Tor.
2012-11-02 11:33:27 PM  
1 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: Actually, it says precisely what I think it says: material which is not, in fact, child pornography, can be prosecuted as such.


You might also want to read more on the actual case.

Wiki Link to the US v. Williams (2008) entry. The whole issue at hand was could the person be charged and convicted for trafficking in child pornography because he was passing around pictures of women which he tried to promote and distribute as child pornography, not drawings or hentai. The photo was digitally regressed to appear 12 even though it was an of-aged model, and was promoted as actual child pornography.
2012-11-02 11:28:55 PM  
1 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: Actually, it says precisely what I think it says: material which is not, in fact, child pornography, can be prosecuted as such.


If the material is promoted as child pornography.

So no, it doesn't say what you think it says. Taking the previous example of Hentai, the material is presented as adult entertainment, not child pornography.
2012-11-02 11:25:28 PM  
1 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: The US.

"The Supreme Court today [Monday, May 19, 2008] upheld, by a 7-2 vote, controversial provisions of a child pornography law that made it illegal to promote material presented as child pornography even if the material in question isn't actually child pornography. Or involve actual children."


Bolded the important part of that statement. It doesn't say what you think it says.
2012-11-02 11:22:38 PM  
1 votes:

BronyMedic: ArcadianRefugee: Actually, all you know is he (allegedly) collected images of naked children.

Or do you have information not in the article that says he actually molested children?

Oh, you really assume I care at this point. Yes, I know, I'm a horrible, heartless person for wishing ill things on pedophiles


Actually, I just asked a question. But if you just lump the two together because hey, why not, ok then.

ArcadianRefugee: What if it is completely computer generated?

Since when does a real-life child get victimized by the production of shota-ai or lolicon? And in what jurisdiction is that illegal, again?


The US.

"The Supreme Court today [Monday, May 19, 2008] upheld, by a 7-2 vote, controversial provisions of a child pornography law that made it illegal to promote material presented as child pornography even if the material in question isn't actually child pornography. Or involve actual children."

Link
2012-11-02 11:18:17 PM  
1 votes:

BronyMedic: ArcadianRefugee: Actually, all you know is he (allegedly) collected images of naked children.

Or do you have information not in the article that says he actually molested children?

Oh, you really assume I care at this point. Yes, I know, I'm a horrible, heartless person for wishing ill things on pedophiles

ArcadianRefugee: What if it is completely computer generated?

Since when does a real-life child get victimized by the production of shota-ai or lolicon? And in what jurisdiction is that illegal, again?


Texas I believe ruled that comics and drawn depictions are the same thing as actual photographs.
2012-11-02 11:17:18 PM  
1 votes:
If they've hurt anyone, you could give them some brain surgery.

It'll be a delicate operation though. You'll need the right tools.

www.kingofswords.com
2012-11-02 11:16:16 PM  
1 votes:
Really? An eight month suspended sentence, with a 300 buck fine? And you have to register? Really? That's all? For making child porn and victimizing underage children? Wow....I don't even know what to say.
2012-11-02 11:11:23 PM  
1 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: Actually, all you know is he (allegedly) collected images of naked children.

Or do you have information not in the article that says he actually molested children?


Oh, you really assume I care at this point. Yes, I know, I'm a horrible, heartless person for wishing ill things on pedophiles

ArcadianRefugee: What if it is completely computer generated?


Since when does a real-life child get victimized by the production of shota-ai or lolicon? And in what jurisdiction is that illegal, again?
2012-11-02 11:07:52 PM  
1 votes:

Carlip: Im assuming there is a "that's not my garbage" defense.


With the exception that they found "hundreds of pictures of naked boys and girls on his computer", that would be a laugh, wouldn't it? Paedo next door was throwing out his trash in this guy's bin? Heh.

/note to self: dispose of incriminating documents in neighbors trash
2012-11-02 11:07:36 PM  
1 votes:
The comments section on that page is a dazzling example of why we have representatives make decisions and don't put everything up to a public vote. If everyone had their way, the death penalty would account for punishment for like the 20% worst crimes, life in prison for the next 30%, and we'd round off the 50% of least serious crimes by only giving people a decade or two. I think everyone should actually be subjected to their own brand of what they consider justice for one week, and after that week the world would be a much more humane and rational place.
2012-11-02 11:06:18 PM  
1 votes:

BronyMedic: Besides that, child pornography continues the victimization of the child long after even the initial perpetrator is captured and justice is done.


What if it is completely computer generated?
2012-11-02 11:02:01 PM  
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CruJones: We all agree pedophiles are sick. But is it possible that digital porn may keep some from actually committing real life crimes? Not a position, just a question.


I don't believe pedophiles are sick, especially since there are degrees of it and most people don't know that. I think there's something wrong with finding younger-than-pubescent humans attractive, but only wrong in a scientific sense. I won't pass judgement on them.

I think you question regarding digitization is an interesting one. Sometimes you just want to kill some people, cause explosions, see people pay for their crimes (as uncivilized as that is), but instead of going out and committing these crimes, you go home, kick back, cook up some popcorn, and play some video games or watch DieHard. I think it may both make the problem worse for some, and bearable/forgettable for others. When i'm feeling randy, I find some porn on the pc and some minutes later relieves the bug, and i'm able to refocus on my work. YMMV.
2012-11-02 10:57:00 PM  
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2012-11-02 07:55:22 PM  
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Paedophile, subs.

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