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(The Sun)   Garbage men track down pedophile and turn him in to the police. It's a dirty job but someone has to do it   (thesun.co.uk) divider line 186
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2012-11-03 02:10:52 AM  

12349876: All I'm saying is that's it's not 100% inevitable that someone who watches ends up acting.


Those that are that highly repressed are gonna come out sooner or later.

Or possibly FBI agents looking for evidence, that's true too.
 
2012-11-03 02:12:27 AM  

BronyMedic: 12349876: Where do you get the idea that I'm white knighting it? Nowhere have I condoned the abuse of children. Those people should be locked up, and those who support them by looking at it should be too. All I'm saying in this thread is that your absolute 100% assertion about the connection between orientation and porn usage to crime is not 100%

I've stated it's my personal feeling on the matter, and YMMV. I just feel that after saying the things you have said in here, you really need to make it clear that is the stance you have.


That's my clear stance and I'm sorry if I gave out a different impression. I just worry about the potential consequences of thinking about the world in black and white even for the worst amongst us. It's gotten us into a lot of trouble in the past.
 
2012-11-03 02:14:10 AM  
Death to all pedophiles. fark em.
 
2012-11-03 02:39:42 AM  
I am completely shocked that people print out porn.
 
2012-11-03 03:36:32 AM  
I've always enjoyed the Internet's adoption of Fallacies given that most folks who use them know so little about them.

/multiple schools of thought regarding Fallacies
//You only hear about one
 
2012-11-03 04:06:18 AM  

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: 12349876: Why draw the line there? If images promote the action the images depict, why should we have violent movies and video games?

Amazingly, possession of violent movies and video games implies you enjoy violent movies and video games.

Possession of child pornography therefore...


No, this does not follow, at all. No one is actually harmed in the production of violent movie or game. The equivalent for your analogy would be something like loli hentai, where the depicted act does not actually occur in any real manner... and that is indeed legal almost everywhere AFAIK.

Having actual CP would be akin to having snuff films. Merely owning a snuff film doesn't make you guilty of murder, but you are most definitely supporting murderers, and it is thus very much a crime, just a less severe one.

/9/10 if trolling, I honestly can't tell.
 
2012-11-03 04:14:31 AM  

trerro: Merely owning a snuff film doesn't make you guilty of murder


Given the fact that snuff film more than likely relates to a murder that some prosecutor is really wanting to close, I'm sure they can make you look very guilty of that murder, or at least a willing accomplice to it.
 
2012-11-03 04:16:15 AM  
Question: If there was a technology that could detect whether you were thinking of naked children or kids in sex acts, would you like this technology to be used publicly so as to weed out those who happen to be thinking of naked or sexually active kids?
 
2012-11-03 04:31:18 AM  

GreenSun: Question: If there was a technology that could detect whether you were thinking of naked children or kids in sex acts, would you like this technology to be used publicly so as to weed out those who happen to be thinking of naked or sexually active kids?


That's a rather silly statement. Maybe we should throw a physician in jail with that technology because he was thinking about a skin lesion on a nude pedatric patient, along that logic. Or we could throw a grandmother in jail for thinking how cute it would be to take a picture of their 18 month old in the bath.

Also, kids ARE sexually exploratory with peers in their own age group as a natural part of growth and development. Along the lines of this argument, a researcher who's area of expertese is child development could be thrown into jail.

Pedophilia is not "thinking of a naked child" or "thinking of child sexuality". It's an overwhelming sexual attraction to children, clothed or not, combined with a dellusional world view which makes you think that some behavior the child is exhibiting means they want you to rape them.
 
2012-11-03 05:03:41 AM  
Bad: Some guy looking at nude pics of children
Worse: The guy is your gay uncle who rapes you.
Worster: Your mom okayed it because according to her reckoning, sex with boys is ok as long as her gay brother beats Jesus into them.
Completely perverted Mother sexually molests molested son's daugher 20 years later.
Stuff out of a Stephen King novel: When reported to Montgomery County Maryland police, police initially suspect molesteed guy until daughter passes psychiatric exams and simply drop the case with a reason that women don't sexually abuse kids because they are women.
 
2012-11-03 05:05:34 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: BronyMedic: ArcadianRefugee: Actually, it says precisely what I think it says: material which is not, in fact, child pornography, can be prosecuted as such.

If the material is promoted as child pornography.

So no, it doesn't say what you think it says. Taking the previous example of Hentai, the material is presented as adult entertainment, not child pornography.

So? Promotion? So, if I 'promote' something as an actual murder, despite no one having been murdered, it should be prosecutable as such? That's ridiculous.

Last I checked, promoting something as something it was not was fraud, not (CP, murder, whatever).


Yeah? Try selling a narc a bag of cornstarch under the premise that it's cocaine.
 
2012-11-03 05:26:52 AM  

CruJones: We all agree pedophiles are sick.


No, we don't. We don't even agree on what pedophilia is. Some of us may not even be clear in their heads what exactly they mean by it. Some people have a horrible vision of evil victimization of children, and everything that falls under the head of "pedo" gets generalized that way -- the same way popular culture has formed a stereotypical image of the evil, child-corrupting "dope pusher", and then we end up imposing draconic sentences on harmless people for selling cannabis, and people approve it because you don't approve of dope pushers, do you? Why even defend dope pushers? I bet you're a dope pusher too. I hope you die painfully before you get a chance to hurt more children.

Everybody needs somebody to hate. The perfect person to hate is some extreme malevolent figure with no redeeming virtues, even if you have to imagine him. It's much more satisfying to pretend the object of your scorn is this imaginary punching-bag than a real person with nuanced views and yada-yada. This is why a political thread commented by liberals, feminists, libertarians, and conservatives consists mostly of shiat-flinging at "libtards", "feminazis", "teabaggers" and "neocons" who do not exist.

But is it possible that digital porn may keep some from actually committing real life crimes? Not a position, just a question.

Well, the digital porn has been criminalized, so you could say that the law has accomplished the opposite. Alcohol prohibition didn't prevent crime, after all. It multiplied it. If the narrow question is, "Will people be less likely to fark kids if we let them wank to CP instead?" my common sense tells me that it wouldn't really matter. Speaking for myself (YMMV) what I wack to is very different from what I even attempt when I get the opportunity. Take anal, for example, which looks hot on video but is an awkward, messy, smelly ordeal in practice. Anal video might motivate you to try to persuade someone to do it (and good luck with that) though if there is someone in your life you're yearning to bugger, it's certainly going to be no substitute for the real thing. Contrariwise, if you've been pestering the object of your affection for buttsex, deleting your anal porn will not call off the dogs. Either you're going to engage in a certain kind of sex, or not. The porn in your archive might reflect what you want to do, but it doesn't determine it.
 
2012-11-03 07:02:40 AM  
You'd think somebody sick enough to print out pictures of this nature would at least be smart enough to invest in a cross cut shredder. But apparently not.
 
2012-11-03 08:10:33 AM  
Since when are mere naked photos of kids pornography? Around here, beaches are full of naked kids. Of course, only a sicko would get aroused.
 
2012-11-03 08:37:42 AM  
www.advancedanime.com
"Oh, Hai! What are you guys looking at?"
 
2012-11-03 09:09:30 AM  
FTA: Jobless Eaton, from Tiverton, Devon, admitted 18 counts of making or possessing indecent images of children.
Exeter Crown Court gave him an eight-month suspended sentence and ordered him to go on a sex offenders programme as part of a two-year supervision order.


Yeah that seems a-ok to me, years in jail for drug addicts who harmed no one but themselves with their crime and let the pedo off with an 8 month suspended sentence.

Also, did he make it or possess it? It seems to me there is a huge difference between the two....

My two cents; These people should be locked away in an asylum and studied. What triggers these types of behaviors and inclinations in people? What treatments could be perfected to eliminate these behaviors? Surgical castration would be a must if they are to ever be released back to the public. There are ways to remove most or all sexual urges completely, although I suspect they would just move to less sexual and more physically harming behaviors. I honestly believe it is more of a "dominance over the weak and helpless" that turns these sickos on, not the pre-pubescent nude form.

/I may be wrong.... 
//the more reptilian part of my brain just wants to blood eagle the lot of them
 
2012-11-03 09:20:50 AM  

zamboni: They care a lot!


Came for it...leaving satisfied
 
2012-11-03 09:59:54 AM  
If people had any clue as to what the MILITARY has to go through to catch these pedophiles...

marriage wrecking, parent destroying asshats.

Sorry, not enough coffee to respond without an AK-47.
 
2012-11-03 10:01:20 AM  

BronyMedic: CruJones: We all agree pedophiles are sick. But is it possible that digital porn may keep some from actually committing real life crimes? Not a position, just a question.

Pedophilia is not a static sexual orientation where someone simply is attracted sexually to prepubescent children. It's a progressive escalation of behaviors. While not all pedophiles are predatory in nature, child pornography is a way for them to escalate their fantasies. The really freaky thing about their pathology, though, is that they don't see it as harming a child - but loving them the way the child wants to be loved, in only a way they can understand.

Besides that, child pornography continues the victimization of the child long after even the initial perpetrator is captured and justice is done.


Exactly.
 
2012-11-03 10:43:13 AM  
Still- are these pornographic images? Or nudes?
 
2012-11-03 10:51:09 AM  

filter: Still- are these pornographic images? Or nudes?


Wouldn't you like to know?
 
2012-11-03 10:52:51 AM  
legalize prostitution. and pedophilia will all but disappear, but there will be FAR less of it.

see most of these guys are socially awkward, and hence turn towards children.
 
2012-11-03 11:09:14 AM  

Jon iz teh kewl: legalize prostitution. and pedophilia will all but disappear, but there will be FAR less of it.

see most of these guys are socially awkward, and hence turn towards children.


Socially awkward?

They must star on The Big Bang Theory?
 
2012-11-03 12:34:13 PM  

SnyderCat: filter: Still- are these pornographic images? Or nudes?

Wouldn't you like to know?


Gimmeabreak... we live in world where home bathtub photos are illegal.... meanwhile on reality TV we have kid beauty contest monsters.
 
2012-11-03 01:06:04 PM  

filter: SnyderCat: filter: Still- are these pornographic images? Or nudes?

Wouldn't you like to know?

Gimmeabreak... we live in world where home bathtub photos are illegal.... meanwhile on reality TV we have kid beauty contest monsters.


Honey Boo Boo....future beauty queen and reality star of America?
 
2012-11-03 01:07:12 PM  

SnyderCat: filter: SnyderCat: filter: Still- are these pornographic images? Or nudes?

Wouldn't you like to know?

Gimmeabreak... we live in world where home bathtub photos are illegal.... meanwhile on reality TV we have kid beauty contest monsters.

Honey Boo Boo....future beauty queen and reality star of America?


At least I didn't say future porn star...

in the previous post

*giggity*
 
2012-11-03 01:11:30 PM  

BronyMedic: ArcadianRefugee: Actually, it says precisely what I think it says: material which is not, in fact, child pornography, can be prosecuted as such.

If the material is promoted as child pornography.

So no, it doesn't say what you think it says. Taking the previous example of Hentai, the material is presented as adult entertainment, not child pornography.


For what it's worth:

Link

People get prosecuted for possessing underage hentai, which is prohibited by the PROTECT Act as long as it is obscene or has no merit. US v. Williams doesn't contradict the PROTECT Act.

Those are the laws on the books, and that's how they're being prosecuted.
 
2012-11-03 01:23:12 PM  
Apparently, in the Netherlands at least, it's possible to have a reasoned discussion about this subject.

What if you could give paedophiles drawings of child pornography to steer their impulses in a safe direction? This controversial proposal has garnered support from the Dutch anti-child pornography lobby: "We're for everything that helps combat abuse".

People become paedophiles during their earliest periods of development. The sexual orientation cannot be cured or changed, but it can be managed. This is the opinion of leading brain researcher Dick Swaab at the Netherlands Institute for Neuroscience (NIN). It underpins his call for electronic child pornography, for example in comic strip form.

"By making child pornography available, we can steer paedophiles' impulses in the right direction and that should reduce child abuse," Professor Swaab argues. But for many people, the idea will take some getting used to.

"The common view is that pornography exacerbates the problem. But the well-known United States sexologist, Professor Milton Diamond, has shown in Eastern Europe that pornography reduces the problem. People are able to give vent to their impulses without harming victims. This is something that should be tested."

Unexpected support
Professor Swaab's plan can count on support from an unexpected source: the Dutch anti-paedophile group, Stopkinderpornonu (Stop-child-pornography-now). The group's position is clear: possession of child pornography and the abuse of children should be combated in every way possible. However, it is willing to consider this proposal because real children would not be harmed. Spokesman Chris Hölsken goes as far as to describe it as a really good idea.

"... because we're fighting to stop child pornography and child abuse. That means that every form and every method should be studied carefully. If fake pornographic images, such as in cartoons, can lead to stopping child abuse, we support that."


I bolded what I consider to be the important part.

Radio Netherlands Worldwide
 
2012-11-03 02:27:31 PM  

SnyderCat: Jon iz teh kewl: legalize prostitution. and pedophilia will all but disappear, but there will be FAR less of it.

see most of these guys are socially awkward, and hence turn towards children.

Socially awkward?

They must star on The Big Bang Theory?


pedophile
media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-03 03:15:37 PM  
Little Known Powers of Garbage Men

10. They can make all the noise they want in the performance of their duties.
09. Anything they find in your garbage, they can keep.
08. They can refuse to pick up your garbage unless it is gift-wrapped.
07. They can force you to sort your recyclables.
06. They can take their pick of garbage university degrees, including MBAs, Ph.Ds in useless specialities and Honorary Degrees from Podunk Universities.
05. They know where all the wormhole shortcuts across space-time are.
04. In an emergency, they can dump their load on your lawn or anywhere it does not block traffic.
03. They can stake out a house where they suspect a crime has been committed on the basis of the contents of its garbage cans as long as the neighbors don't complain about the smell or the truck blocking their drive-ways.
02. They can park anywhere they like in a garbage emergency.
01. They can perform marriages on their garbage trucks--but you have to be on their garbage truck--you can't just stand by it or get into the cab.
 
2012-11-03 04:38:02 PM  
A few years back we found out one of the old drunk assholes a couple blocks up had a lewd and lascivious act with a minor charge, and was hanging Halloween decorations, a couple neighbors asked me to come along and we ended up paying him a little visit. He didn't attempt to deny the charge and seemed almost defiant when we asked him if he thought it was a bit inappropriate for a pedophile to have so many kids on his doorstep. One of my neighbors is around 5'1" or 5'2" tops, little guy with a jolly demeanor, only time I ever saw him mad in almost 2 decades, but he has 2 little girls. My neighbor walked up real slow, the pedo threw a useless punch that was way too slow, my little neighbor ducked, placed his leg behind the pedo and tripped him realllly hard. His back thudded and all his air was gone, he was laying there groaning, and my neighbor gave a super stomp like he was trying to demolish the pedos skull. Then, he whipped out his dick and pissed all over the old man. We stood around and looked at each other for a minute, and I checked him for a pulse before we left. On odd impulse, I took his wallet just to spite his old ass. He had $46.

He didnt have any halloween decorations the next day, and he was gone sometime early in the next year. I dont know if it was right or wrong, but when a defiant child diddler is clobbered and done wrong, its a dose of wonderful scadenfreude that I feel almost guilty for enjoying. This is what we all feel about pedos, and pedo sympathizers, even if we are otherwise decent people. You are all a bunch of seriously sick fuhks.

/Dunno why I started this post, but damn arent pedophiles some worthless disgusting pieces of shiat?
 
2012-11-03 04:46:18 PM  
/fwiw, the story above is false, I figure it will piss off some of the Fark pedos though
 
2012-11-03 05:38:14 PM  

D_Evans45: /fwiw, the story above is false, I figure it will piss off some of the Fark pedos though


And I thought you were spentmiles' sock puppet
 
2012-11-03 06:00:15 PM  
There seems to be a lot of people who don't know what the hell they're talking about, here. For anyone wanting to know the truth for just about any aspect of this subject, go to this website: Vachss
Poke around some, see what you find. It can be quite enlightening.
 
2012-11-03 09:29:44 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: SnyderCat: Jon iz teh kewl: legalize prostitution. and pedophilia will all but disappear, but there will be FAR less of it.

see most of these guys are socially awkward, and hence turn towards children.

Socially awkward?

They must star on The Big Bang Theory?

pedophile
[media.tumblr.com image 412x232]


ROFL

window seat or aisle seat?
 
2012-11-05 07:18:09 PM  
Child sex offender, especially the violent ones?

I recommend chemical castration, community rehabilitation, and careful recivilization for these folks.

If they cannot play nice, we feed them to the lions...

*)
 
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