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2012-11-02 06:55:40 PM

Cletus C.: MisterRonbo: Cletus C.: drewsclues: Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.

Oh so passing the republicans own health care law wasn't good enough? Get your head out of your ass.

That really isn't the spirit of cooperation I was envisioning.

Funny how you talk about bipartisanship and cooperation, but only mention Obama needing to make some effort.

Because Republicans have already been making such efforts at bipartisan cooperation, right? All those filibusters are just their way of saying, "we want to make this relationship work!"

I was referring to my hope that a second term for Obama would bring with it his willingness to work with Republicans in Congress for the good of the country. Be a leader. Turn down the rhetoric. Of course the GOP would need to work with him, as well.


He has always done that. Hell, he has always given the Republicans everything they want, just to keep the ball rolling. He's the Great Capitulator. Obama has never played hardball or used partisan rhetoric to get his way.

So what you're suggesting is that he hasn't capitulated to the GOP enough?

Open your damn eyes. Either that, or just admit you're a GOP shill.
 
2012-11-02 07:02:29 PM

RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?


Mitch McConnell.
 
2012-11-02 07:04:18 PM
You mean the party of NO still has NO ideas???

Quelle Surprise!
 
2012-11-02 07:04:20 PM

AirForceVet: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Vote the GOP out of Congress into orbit. It's the only way to be sure.


They've said they want to put people on Mars by like 2030.....why not just start a bit early...and if the missions go badly there is no real loss.
 
2012-11-02 07:07:00 PM

Cletus C.: common sense is an oxymoron: Cletus C.: drewsclues: Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.

Oh so passing the republicans own health care law wasn't good enough? Get your head out of your ass.

That really isn't the spirit of cooperation I was envisioning.


Turtle Boy and the GOP have gone out of their way to avoid even the appearance of bipartisanship. Your argument is invalid.

My argument that bipartisanship is necessary or this country could get farked up even more? If you say so, captain.



Your plea for bipartisanship on Obama's part in light of the GOP's actions over the past four years is hypocritical at best.
 
2012-11-02 07:07:58 PM

MithrandirBooga: I got into an argument with a friend of a friend on facebook today. He was absolutely convinced that the Republicans fixed the recession, and it was the democrats that caused it.


After posting about a dozen things proving him completely wrong, he posted this as his closing argument:

"You can post all the graph's, reports, polls, surveys, and chart's in the world, but here's what I see daily. Less construction, less new homes, less new loans, higher fuel prices, higher grocery bills, higher heath care costs. Enjoy the cool aid. Your media is full of crap."


... I literally have no idea how to debate someone who admits that he has no interest in facts.


I completely agree. How does one argue against people who just do not see the same set of facts? It's one thing to debate what the facts indicate. It's another to completely deny the facts as presented.
 
2012-11-02 07:08:38 PM

Aar1012: I'm going to Romney's last rally up here on Monday. I'm hopingnthatbhe just tells America that he's played them hook, line, and sinker or that he unveils the GOP economic doomsday machine.

/The point of the doomsday machine is lost....if you keep it a secret!
//Why didnt you tell the world, eh!?


Some men just want to watch the world divest.
 
2012-11-02 07:09:14 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The United States does not negotiate with terrorists.


In one.
 
2012-11-02 07:09:15 PM

dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?


I feel like there's a word, it means what you're saying... Filibuster?
 
2012-11-02 07:10:24 PM

Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.


Yes, it's Obama not being bipartisan. The guy who passed a healthcare bill that was practically a carbon copy of Romneycare instead of the public option he wanted. The guy who agreed to water-down a desperately-needed stimulus with tax cuts.

Not the people who caused the United States' credit rating to get downgraded because they didn't get 100% of what they wanted. Not the people who have wasted the last two years with social conservative BS and trying to repeal the ACA out of spite, while filibustering or otherwise blocking any sorts of jobs bill. Not the people who are ready to farking crucify Chris Christie because he dared to say that Obama didn't fark up Sandy, despite the party desperately wanting more people to die so Obama would have his Katrina.

If anything, Obama should've been MORE partisan. He's good at getting rid of foreign terrorists, but he compromises with the domestic terrorists far too often.
 
2012-11-02 07:11:54 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The United States does not negotiate with terrorists.


Ronald Reagan did.
 
2012-11-02 07:12:03 PM

dericwater: MithrandirBooga: I got into an argument with a friend of a friend on facebook today. He was absolutely convinced that the Republicans fixed the recession, and it was the democrats that caused it.


After posting about a dozen things proving him completely wrong, he posted this as his closing argument:

"You can post all the graph's, reports, polls, surveys, and chart's in the world, but here's what I see daily. Less construction, less new homes, less new loans, higher fuel prices, higher grocery bills, higher heath care costs. Enjoy the cool aid. Your media is full of crap."


... I literally have no idea how to debate someone who admits that he has no interest in facts.

I completely agree. How does one argue against people who just do not see the same set of facts? It's one thing to debate what the facts indicate. It's another to completely deny the facts as presented.


I'll be honest, this is a main reason why I don't talk about "issues" with my grandmother, aunt, mother-in-law, etc. I just don't know how to reply to people who willingly deny facts. I find it's easier to just avoid the whole thing. Yeah, it means we talk less overall and I know that's sad but in my mind, it's better than having the kind of conversation illustrated above....
 
2012-11-02 07:13:39 PM

Kimothy: When I read crap like this, I often wish the South would've been successful in their secession. Then we'd have the first world United States next to the failed experiment third world Confederate States. They'd probably be sick of their own shiat by now and attempting to make some progress. Instead, they are stuck trying to force on the rest of us their ass-backward theological, racial, and patriotic beliefs that achieve nothing but division, distress, and produce demagogues who pander to the fear of their under- and uneducated masses.

Seriously, do we still need these people in the 21st century?


I like to think that in a perfect world the loser of the Civil War had to keep the south, but in practice it would probably be more like China on our doorstep: a backward, repressive, totalitarian regime reliant on cheap labor providing shoddy products to our own underclass. Oh, and it's Border Problem would be its own people fleeing to the south for better living conditions and a more democratic government.

But even in real history, the South has always demanded -- and gotten -- disproportionate influence in the running of the US, from the very first constitutional congress. It's like the South is the hot but crazy girlfriend who makes insane demands and wants them RIGHT NOW and the North is the smart but schlubbish boyfriend who always gives in, partly because he's terrified of what crazy thing she might do next otherwise, and partly because she gives the best hummers he's ever had, and frankly he's not sure he'll ever get laid again in his life if he breaks up with her.

...OK, that metaphor may have gotten away from me towards the end, there.
 
2012-11-02 07:13:51 PM

common sense is an oxymoron: Your plea for bipartisanship on Obama's part in light of the GOP's actions over the past four years is hypocritical at best.


Not really. There's nothing wrong with being a partisan as long as you're not doing anything horrible unethical. Unfortunately for the GOP, all the have is being horribly unethical.
 
2012-11-02 07:13:58 PM
Do not threaten us, little man... If you awake the sleeping giant, we will crush you.
 
2012-11-02 07:14:25 PM

Elandriel: I wonder what "I don't have to worry about re-election" Obama is going to be like. Will he take a hard stance against these assholes, knowing they can't force him out? Will he use the bully pulpit? It would be a matter of remarkable ease to expose them after the election, peel back the layers hiding the truth of the matter -- that the GOP is intentionally hindering the economic recovery for political reasons.

But, he's pretty much a centrist, so that might be asking a bit much...


Cue the YouTube video of GW saying "This election has given me political *capital* and I intend to *spend* it"

\too lazy to look for it
 
2012-11-02 07:16:47 PM
It's the same twisted logic that the newspapers who endorsed him used. Why wouldn't he run with it?
 
2012-11-02 07:17:16 PM

czetie: But even in real history, the South has always demanded -- and gotten -- disproportionate influence in the running of the US, from the very first constitutional congress. It's like the South is the hot but crazy girlfriend who makes insane demands and wants them RIGHT NOW and the North is the smart but schlubbish boyfriend who always gives in, partly because he's terrified of what crazy thing she might do next otherwise, and partly because she gives the best hummers he's ever had, and frankly he's not sure he'll ever get laid again in his life if he breaks up with her.

...OK, that metaphor may have gotten away from me towards the end, there.


Which is really silly, given that there's an attractive stoner chick with universal health care right next door who's been flirting with the US for the past oh 200 so years.
 
2012-11-02 07:17:34 PM

Grungehamster: First, as to your remarks in Jamaica concerning the possible realignment of the Republican and Democratic parties into "conservative" and "liberal" parties. Whatever the circumstances of the statement, you have indicated that you believe that might be "a happy thing." I disagree.

We need only look at the experience of some ideologically oriented parties in Europe to realize that chaos can result. Dogmatic ideological parties tend to splinter the political and social fabric of a nation, lead to governmental crises and deadlock, and stymie the compromises so often necessary to preserve freedom and achieve progress. A broad based two party structure produces a degree of political stability and viability not otherwise attainable."
- George Romney, in a letter to Barry Goldwater, December 21, 1964


Wow. Where did he go wrong with that boy?
 
2012-11-02 07:18:49 PM

MrBallou: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

Maybe I'm begin hopelessly naive again, but it occurs to me that, if the reason the GOP House wanted to trash the economy to make Obama look bad was so he wouldn't be reelected, then, in his second term, they will not have that reason, since he can't run again anyway.

Instead, individual congressmen will be needing to make themselves look better for their own reelection bids starting in 2014. They'll also want to make the GOP look better in general to give the eventual Presidential nominee a better starting position.

What would be the incentive to keep being asshats, if they no longer need to destroy Obama?


There would be none. A re-elected Obama will have every incentive to be even more of an asshat to Congress than he has been. His sole purpose would be to destroy Republicans.
 
2012-11-02 07:19:02 PM

MrBallou: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

Maybe I'm begin hopelessly naive again, but it occurs to me that, if the reason the GOP House wanted to trash the economy to make Obama look bad was so he wouldn't be reelected, then, in his second term, they will not have that reason, since he can't run again anyway.

Instead, individual congressmen will be needing to make themselves look better for their own reelection bids starting in 2014. They'll also want to make the GOP look better in general to give the eventual Presidential nominee a better starting position.

What would be the incentive to keep being asshats, if they no longer need to destroy Obama?


hillaryis45.com
 
2012-11-02 07:22:12 PM

drewsclues: Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.

Oh so passing the republicans own health care law wasn't good enough? Get your head out of your ass.


What was the John B. quote, "We got 90% of what we wanted"
I seriously hope you are not saying that he has not made any effort so far.
 
2012-11-02 07:22:31 PM
This is like companies trying to tell their workers how to vote, or they'll get laid off.
I don't know how other people respond to threats, but if they are like me, these are not good strategies.
 
2012-11-02 07:22:41 PM

Cataholic: MrBallou: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

Maybe I'm begin hopelessly naive again, but it occurs to me that, if the reason the GOP House wanted to trash the economy to make Obama look bad was so he wouldn't be reelected, then, in his second term, they will not have that reason, since he can't run again anyway.

Instead, individual congressmen will be needing to make themselves look better for their own reelection bids starting in 2014. They'll also want to make the GOP look better in general to give the eventual Presidential nominee a better starting position.

What would be the incentive to keep being asshats, if they no longer need to destroy Obama?

There would be none. A re-elected Obama will have every incentive to be even more of an asshat to Congress than he has been. His sole purpose would be to destroy Republicans.


LOLWUT

[citation needed]
 
2012-11-02 07:24:32 PM
i870.photobucket.com

/Forgive me, Rich
 
2012-11-02 07:24:53 PM

Kuroshin: Cletus C.: MisterRonbo: Cletus C.: drewsclues: Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.

Oh so passing the republicans own health care law wasn't good enough? Get your head out of your ass.

That really isn't the spirit of cooperation I was envisioning.

Funny how you talk about bipartisanship and cooperation, but only mention Obama needing to make some effort.

Because Republicans have already been making such efforts at bipartisan cooperation, right? All those filibusters are just their way of saying, "we want to make this relationship work!"

I was referring to my hope that a second term for Obama would bring with it his willingness to work with Republicans in Congress for the good of the country. Be a leader. Turn down the rhetoric. Of course the GOP would need to work with him, as well.

He has always done that. Hell, he has always given the Republicans everything they want, just to keep the ball rolling. He's the Great Capitulator. Obama has never played hardball or used partisan rhetoric to get his way.

So what you're suggesting is that he hasn't capitulated to the GOP enough?

Open your damn eyes. Either that, or just admit you're a GOP shill.


That is laughable. It needs to stop from both sides, I'm saying.
 
2012-11-02 07:25:35 PM

me_onthenet: [i870.photobucket.com image 310x214]

/Forgive me, Rich


"Lord Xykon?"

"I don't have lungs."

Bastard needs to unbreak his hand.
 
2012-11-02 07:26:27 PM

LordJiro: Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.

Yes, it's Obama not being bipartisan. The guy who passed a healthcare bill that was practically a carbon copy of Romneycare instead of the public option he wanted. The guy who agreed to water-down a desperately-needed stimulus with tax cuts.

Not the people who caused the United States' credit rating to get downgraded because they didn't get 100% of what they wanted. Not the people who have wasted the last two years with social conservative BS and trying to repeal the ACA out of spite, while filibustering or otherwise blocking any sorts of jobs bill. Not the people who are ready to farking crucify Chris Christie because he dared to say that Obama didn't fark up Sandy, despite the party desperately wanting more people to die so Obama would have his Katrina.

If anything, Obama should've been MORE partisan. He's good at getting rid of foreign terrorists, but he compromises with the domestic terrorists far too often.


I nominate you for NOT the mediator in this dispute.
 
2012-11-02 07:26:56 PM
Romney, you cock.
 
2012-11-02 07:27:31 PM
"You know that if the President is re-elected, he will still be unable to work with the people in Congress," Romney said. "He has ignored them, attacked them, blamed them. The debt ceiling will come up again, and shutdown and default will be threatened, chilling the economy."

Sounds like republicans are bullies with a persecution complex.
 
2012-11-02 07:28:11 PM

Weigard: Via Infinito: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: abb3w: The Third Man: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

Richard Mourdock?

Allen West?

Ted Poe?

Darrell Issa?

Mike Turzai?

Chief?


McCloud?
 
2012-11-02 07:30:50 PM

Tigger: (Not an advocation of violence obv.)


But I am.

Get the guillotine.
 
2012-11-02 07:32:27 PM
Go fark yourself Mitt Romney.
 
2012-11-02 07:33:12 PM
Stages of GOP desperation:

To capture the desperation you have to take in all the stages:

1) lack of gloating or even veiled confidence (oddly polite comments like "it ain't over until it's over")
2) quietness (where are the usual suspects)
3) feigned indifference (It doesn't matter because of XYZ)
4) the crazy/hate/fear (conspiracy theories, racism and funny/insane twists in logic)
5) being a victim (expressing that a great wrong is happening)
6) clinging to a wildcard (some last minute development will save them)
7) false bravado (leaving the country, going off the grid, threatening revolution)
8) making lemonade with sour grapes (e.g., pretending they can take economic advantage of the country's fall into the abyss or "'I'm going to enjoy watching you Liberals XYZ").
9) looking to the future (2014)
10) ongoing bitter butthurt and lack of acceptance (see 2008-2012)

I would put this latest move around for with a focus on fear (Romney's in this case)
 
2012-11-02 07:33:45 PM
Holy shiat, he really said that.

MrBallou: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

Maybe I'm begin hopelessly naive again, but it occurs to me that, if the reason the GOP House wanted to trash the economy to make Obama look bad was so he wouldn't be reelected, then, in his second term, they will not have that reason, since he can't run again anyway.

Instead, individual congressmen will be needing to make themselves look better for their own reelection bids starting in 2014. They'll also want to make the GOP look better in general to give the eventual Presidential nominee a better starting position.

What would be the incentive to keep being asshats, if they no longer need to destroy Obama?


Unfortunately, in his second term, Obama will probably continue to be a black man.
 
2012-11-02 07:33:47 PM

me_onthenet: [i870.photobucket.com image 310x214]

/Forgive me, Rich


I'd put the GOP more at the "Linear Guild" level of Evilness myself...
 
2012-11-02 07:37:15 PM
This is s get-out-the-vote speech for the true believers. It isn't intended to sway anyone. That's why it sounds so insane to a regular person.
 
2012-11-02 07:37:17 PM
Go for it, GOP idjitards.

I look forward to the Republican Party being tossed on the trash heap of history's failed political factions.
 
2012-11-02 07:40:05 PM

Forbidden Doughnut: me_onthenet: [i870.photobucket.com image 310x214]

/Forgive me, Rich

I'd put the GOP more at the "Linear Guild" level of Evilness myself...


They're more Belkar than anything. Technically on our side but so stupidly angry that they end up wasting about half of the strip farking around. Don't ever associate GOP with Tarquin again.
 
2012-11-02 07:40:38 PM
Has anyone mentioned that today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced?
 
2012-11-02 07:42:34 PM
This is f*cking hilarious. The right-wing has been great at disseminating the talking point of "Obama hasn't compromised enough and it's his hubris that caused our credit rating to be downgraded". You can't negotiate with ideological purists when the central core of their faith of "tax cuts for the rich create jobs".
 
2012-11-02 07:42:44 PM

TheOther: [fireden.net image 348x355]


Buh bye!
 
2012-11-02 07:43:28 PM
So, nice little country you have here . . . it'd be too bad if something was to happen to it. I'll tell ya what. Vote for me, and my little friends out there will take extra good care of ya.
 
2012-11-02 07:44:53 PM

Evil High Priest: Has anyone mentioned that today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced?


That's untrue. From a risk management point of view, the greatest threat we've ever faced was the Manhattan Project, which at the time was thought to have a decent, but small, chance of incinerating the entire atmosphere in the first test.
 
2012-11-02 07:46:14 PM

Cataholic: There would be none. A re-elected Obama will have every incentive to be even more of an asshat to Congress than he has been. His sole purpose would be to destroy Republicans.


But you know what?
Lyndon Johnson would have served John Boner's nuts at a White House democratic working breakfast by now. Obama? Not so much.
 
2012-11-02 07:47:16 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.


To be fair, the constant possibility of imminent nuclear annihilation was pretty bad. And the Civil War was pretty much an existential threat. So no.

///Not GOP, just don't like rhetorical exaggeration
//what they REALLY are is bad enough
 
2012-11-02 07:48:54 PM

PonceAlyosha: czetie: But even in real history, the South has always demanded -- and gotten -- disproportionate influence in the running of the US, from the very first constitutional congress. It's like the South is the hot but crazy girlfriend who makes insane demands and wants them RIGHT NOW and the North is the smart but schlubbish boyfriend who always gives in, partly because he's terrified of what crazy thing she might do next otherwise, and partly because she gives the best hummers he's ever had, and frankly he's not sure he'll ever get laid again in his life if he breaks up with her.

...OK, that metaphor may have gotten away from me towards the end, there.

Which is really silly, given that there's an attractive stoner chick with universal health care right next door who's been flirting with the US for the past oh 200 so years.


The strange thing is that we schlubbs never want the stoner chick who would be really good for us while still being way hotter than we deserve. We ignore her and chase the crazy chick. I don't know, maybe we think we're the one that can save her.

Uh, those schlubbs. Good for them. Goddammitsomuch.
 
2012-11-02 07:49:50 PM

PonceAlyosha: Evil High Priest: Has anyone mentioned that today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced?

That's untrue. From a risk management point of view, the greatest threat we've ever faced was the Manhattan Project, which at the time was thought to have a decent, but small, chance of incinerating the entire atmosphere in the first test.


At least they wouldn't have had to apologize afterwards.
 
2012-11-02 07:50:07 PM

that bosnian sniper: I'd suggest building a rocket and launching GOP Congressmen into the Sun, but they'd just figure out a way to obstruct it, blanket the Earth in darkness, and blame Obama for it.


Either that or the Sun would radiate derp for the next 4.5 billion years.
 
2012-11-02 07:50:20 PM

czetie: Uh, those schlubbs. Good for them. Goddammitsomuch.


As a gay man, I enjoy being the stoner dude whom everyone eventually settles on, at least for a time.
 
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