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2012-11-02 02:25:02 PM
The United States does not negotiate with terrorists.
 
2012-11-02 02:27:22 PM
I'm beginning to think that, perhaps, Mr Romney is a refugee from the Bizarro Universe where things mean their opposites.
 
2012-11-02 02:29:02 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: I'm beginning to think that, perhaps, Mr Romney is a refugee from the Bizarro Universe where things mean their opposites.


I demand to see his birth cerificate, otherwise, you're totally right.
 
2012-11-02 02:30:51 PM
Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.
 
2012-11-02 02:31:06 PM
DOOO EEETT!!
 
2012-11-02 02:33:15 PM
Sounds like he's suggesting that people vote the Democrats back into power in congress.
 
2012-11-02 02:33:47 PM
OOOOOGA BOOOOOGA BOOOOOGA!!!!!
 
2012-11-02 02:37:24 PM
house republicans won't even listen to john boehner, why the f*ck would they listen to mitt romney?
 
2012-11-02 02:37:59 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

 
2012-11-02 02:41:01 PM
I wonder what "I don't have to worry about re-election" Obama is going to be like. Will he take a hard stance against these assholes, knowing they can't force him out? Will he use the bully pulpit? It would be a matter of remarkable ease to expose them after the election, peel back the layers hiding the truth of the matter -- that the GOP is intentionally hindering the economic recovery for political reasons.

But, he's pretty much a centrist, so that might be asking a bit much...
 
2012-11-02 02:42:04 PM
Romney's closing argument: Elect me or the GOP congress will implode the economy
 
2012-11-02 02:42:48 PM

FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

 
2012-11-02 02:45:03 PM
Well, at least he's being honest that the GOP is utterly evil.
 
2012-11-02 02:46:15 PM
As the de facto perennial logic-lessons img.fark.neter, I feel obliged to point out that even if the assertion is true, this use of "OR" in the headline is not necessarily an exclusive disjunction.
 
2012-11-02 02:46:58 PM

Demetrius: OOOOOGA BOOOOOGA BOOOOOGA!!!!!


Hey, it helped Bush win a second term.
 
2012-11-02 02:48:22 PM
Based on his past in Massachusetts, Mitt is the only candidate who can bring both sides together... in hatred and lack of respect of Mitt Romney.

So vote Mitt Romney, for a truly bipartisan America.
 
2012-11-02 02:52:32 PM
Obvious solution? Vote the Republicans out of Congress..
 
2012-11-02 02:53:04 PM

abb3w: As the de facto perennial logic-lessons [img.fark.net image 54x11]er, I feel obliged to point out that even if the assertion is true, this use of "OR" in the headline is not necessarily an exclusive disjunction.


There will be no supper for you tonight because I've been screwing the milkman all day.
 
2012-11-02 02:53:56 PM

timujin: Obvious solution? Vote the Republicans out of Congress..


My personal favorite
 
2012-11-02 02:55:59 PM

timujin: Obvious solution? Vote the Republicans out of Congress..


2014
 
2012-11-02 02:59:00 PM

Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

 
2012-11-02 03:00:06 PM
images3.wikia.nocookie.net

Romney is a charlatan, a snake oil salesman.

A carnival barker from Hell.

images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-11-02 03:00:15 PM
They were only following orders.
 
2012-11-02 03:00:46 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

 
2012-11-02 03:01:01 PM
www.teach-ict.com

more like this
 
2012-11-02 03:01:31 PM

Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

 
2012-11-02 03:02:01 PM
"You know that if the President is re-elected, he will still be unable to work with the people in Congress," Romney said. "He has ignored them, attacked them, blamed them. The debt ceiling will come up again, and shutdown and default will be threatened, chilling the economy."

He's good. I give him that. He's a great liar.
 
2012-11-02 03:02:24 PM

Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.


This.
 
2012-11-02 03:03:28 PM

vernonFL: Romney is a charlatan, a snake oil salesman.


Yet without their charisma.
 
2012-11-02 03:05:04 PM

Bontesla: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-11-02 03:08:41 PM
Actually, I think that argument may get traction.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-11-02 03:12:17 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.


I don't know that it's worse than the civil war, but definitely in the top two. We have had this sort of crazy before, but not from such a large percentage of the population.
 
2012-11-02 03:13:43 PM
Damned if we do, Damned if we don't.
 
2012-11-02 03:14:59 PM

doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

 
2012-11-02 03:15:30 PM

Nadie_AZ: "You know that if the President is re-elected, he will still be unable to work with the people in Congress," Romney said. "He has ignored them, attacked them, blamed them. The debt ceiling will come up again, and shutdown and default will be threatened, chilling the economy."

He's good. I give him that. He's a great liar.


Not many people have had the amount of practice he's had. Telling as many lies as Romney would wear on the spirit of any normal human.
 
2012-11-02 03:17:45 PM

RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.


you guys realize that all you are doing is sounding like some sort of hyperbolic hive-mind. and also you're probably signing yourselves up for some soon-to-be created republican gulag.
 
2012-11-02 03:21:06 PM
Hey Mitt. Get f*cked.
 
2012-11-02 03:25:59 PM
In a functioning democracy these people would be executed for treason.
 
2012-11-02 03:26:27 PM

thomps: you guys realize that all you are doing is sounding like some sort of hyperbolic hive-mind. and also you're probably signing yourselves up for some soon-to-be created republican gulag.


One of us. One of us.
 
2012-11-02 03:26:35 PM
(Not an advocation of violence obv.)
 
2012-11-02 03:27:11 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.


Vote the GOP out of Congress into orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
 
2012-11-02 03:28:12 PM

AirForceVet: Vote the GOP out of Congress into orbit


Not without a space shuttle.
 
2012-11-02 03:37:23 PM
Romney, you cock.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-11-02 03:39:01 PM

thomps: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

you guys realize that all you are doing is sounding like some sort of hyperbolic hive-mind. and also you're probably signing yourselves up for some soon-to-be created republican gulag.


Nothing hyperbolic about it. Demagoguery is one of the traditional weaknesses of a democratic system.
 
2012-11-02 03:40:05 PM
Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?
 
2012-11-02 03:41:16 PM

vpb: thomps: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

you guys realize that all you are doing is sounding like some sort of hyperbolic hive-mind. and also you're probably signing yourselves up for some soon-to-be created republican gulag.

Nothing hyperbolic about it. Demagoguery is one of the traditional weaknesses of a democratic system.


and today's demagoguery, specifically that of one party, is the greatest threat that the united states has ever faced? that's a bold claim considering our sh*tbag history.
 
2012-11-02 03:43:29 PM

dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?


John Boehner?
 
2012-11-02 03:44:26 PM

RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

 
2012-11-02 03:44:41 PM

RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?


Grover Norquist?
 
2012-11-02 03:45:21 PM
i.imgur.com

Are you threatening me?
The streets will flow with the blood of the unbelievers!
 
2012-11-02 03:47:25 PM

thomps: house republicans won't even listen to john boehner, why the f*ck would they listen to mitt romney?


THIS.
 
2012-11-02 03:47:25 PM

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?


Mitch McConnell?
 
2012-11-02 03:50:16 PM
When I read crap like this, I often wish the South would've been successful in their secession. Then we'd have the first world United States next to the failed experiment third world Confederate States. They'd probably be sick of their own shiat by now and attempting to make some progress. Instead, they are stuck trying to force on the rest of us their ass-backward theological, racial, and patriotic beliefs that achieve nothing but division, distress, and produce demagogues who pander to the fear of their under- and uneducated masses.

Seriously, do we still need these people in the 21st century?
 
2012-11-02 03:53:56 PM

thomps: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

you guys realize that all you are doing is sounding like some sort of hyperbolic hive-mind. and also you're probably signing yourselves up for some soon-to-be created republican gulag.


Resistance is futile
 
2012-11-02 03:54:59 PM

RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?


Karl Rove?
 
2012-11-02 03:55:03 PM
How can you tell the difference between a member of the Taliban and a member of the GOP?

One is honest about their hatred of freedoms. The other will gay rape you in god's name.
 
2012-11-02 03:55:36 PM
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com

Miss me yet?
 
2012-11-02 03:56:05 PM

thomps: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

you guys realize that all you are doing is sounding like some sort of hyperbolic hive-mind. and also you're probably signing yourselves up for some soon-to-be created republican gulag.


How bad can Kansas really be?
 
2012-11-02 03:58:25 PM

Somacandra: [i.imgur.com image 200x290]

i.imgur.com

Are you threatening me?
The streets will flow with the blood of the unbelievers!

We'll choke the rivers with the bodies of the imperialist bourgeois pig-dogs!
 
2012-11-02 03:58:39 PM

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?


Sarah Palin?
 
2012-11-02 04:01:45 PM

thomps: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

you guys realize that all you are doing is sounding like some sort of hyperbolic hive-mind. and also you're probably signing yourselves up for some soon-to-be created republican gulag.


I already live in South Carolina
 
2012-11-02 04:02:11 PM

RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?


Eric Cantor?
 
2012-11-02 04:02:35 PM

WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?


Michele Bachmann?
 
2012-11-02 04:03:55 PM

RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?


Newt Gingrich?
 
2012-11-02 04:11:41 PM

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?


Mitt Romney obviously.
 
2012-11-02 04:12:25 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Mitt Romney obviously.


Hitler.

Wait, you know what, actually Hitler wouldn't have done that.
 
2012-11-02 04:16:06 PM

DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.


Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?


Steve King?
 
2012-11-02 04:16:37 PM

Kimothy: When I read crap like this, I often wish the South would've been successful in their secession. Then we'd have the first world United States next to the failed experiment third world Confederate States. They'd probably be sick of their own shiat by now and attempting to make some progress. Instead, they are stuck trying to force on the rest of us their ass-backward theological, racial, and patriotic beliefs that achieve nothing but division, distress, and produce demagogues who pander to the fear of their under- and uneducated masses.

Seriously, do we still need these people in the 21st century?


Uh, a list of the biggest assholes in Congress includes far more than just Southerners. I'm not sure why you're blaming everything on us.
 
2012-11-02 04:20:41 PM

neritz: thomps: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

you guys realize that all you are doing is sounding like some sort of hyperbolic hive-mind. and also you're probably signing yourselves up for some soon-to-be created republican gulag.

I already live in South Carolina


Hey...me too
 
2012-11-02 04:22:23 PM

Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?


Richard Mourdock?
 
2012-11-02 04:22:28 PM

Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?


The entire GOP?
 
2012-11-02 04:25:13 PM

dickfreckle:

Uh, a list of the biggest assholes in Congress includes far more than just Southerners. I'm not sure why you're blaming everything on us.


it's less blame, and more a situation of acknowledging the south actually tried the 'screw you guys, i'm going home' routine, paired with an intuition it may have been a better idea to just wave at them as they left.

if we play our cards right, within 25 posts, this can be a 'the civil war wasn't about slavery' thread.


weeee.
 
2012-11-02 04:26:18 PM
Tigger: What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

...


Newt Gingrich?

Mitt Romney obviously.

Hitler.

Wait, you know what, actually Hitler wouldn't have done that.

Ouch.

It's true, but Ouch.
 
2012-11-02 04:27:17 PM
i.imgur.com

You've got a nice country here, America. We wouldn't want anything to happen to it.
 
2012-11-02 04:29:18 PM

Torgo_of_Manos: neritz: thomps: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

you guys realize that all you are doing is sounding like some sort of hyperbolic hive-mind. and also you're probably signing yourselves up for some soon-to-be created republican gulag.

I already live in South Carolina

Hey...me too


Not only that, we live in the same city.
 
2012-11-02 04:34:03 PM
So much for the loyal opposition.
 
2012-11-02 04:34:45 PM

dickfreckle: Kimothy: When I read crap like this, I often wish the South would've been successful in their secession. Then we'd have the first world United States next to the failed experiment third world Confederate States. They'd probably be sick of their own shiat by now and attempting to make some progress. Instead, they are stuck trying to force on the rest of us their ass-backward theological, racial, and patriotic beliefs that achieve nothing but division, distress, and produce demagogues who pander to the fear of their under- and uneducated masses.

Seriously, do we still need these people in the 21st century?

Uh, a list of the biggest assholes in Congress includes far more than just Southerners. I'm not sure why you're blaming everything on us.


I'm not blaming everything on the south, I'm just acknowledging that the south makes up the largest swatch of red states. Yes, there are assholes and exceptions in other states, but it's definitely the Confederate south that makes up the largest portion of the derpitude in both Congress and the population.
 
2012-11-02 04:36:28 PM
I'm not the only person to recommend secession:

Better Off Without Em
 
2012-11-02 04:44:45 PM

neritz: Torgo_of_Manos: neritz: thomps: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

you guys realize that all you are doing is sounding like some sort of hyperbolic hive-mind. and also you're probably signing yourselves up for some soon-to-be created republican gulag.

I already live in South Carolina

Hey...me too

Not only that, we live in the same city.

Cool...

/nice to meet ya
 
2012-11-02 04:47:12 PM

Kimothy: I'm not the only person to recommend secession:

Better Off Without Em


Try this one.
 
2012-11-02 04:52:57 PM

dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?


Maybe I'm begin hopelessly naive again, but it occurs to me that, if the reason the GOP House wanted to trash the economy to make Obama look bad was so he wouldn't be reelected, then, in his second term, they will not have that reason, since he can't run again anyway.

Instead, individual congressmen will be needing to make themselves look better for their own reelection bids starting in 2014. They'll also want to make the GOP look better in general to give the eventual Presidential nominee a better starting position.

What would be the incentive to keep being asshats, if they no longer need to destroy Obama?
 
2012-11-02 04:54:32 PM

Nadie_AZ: Kimothy: I'm not the only person to recommend secession:

Better Off Without Em

Try this one.


Awesome! Thanks, I love good political reads.
 
2012-11-02 04:57:17 PM

MrBallou: What would be the incentive to keep being asshats, if they no longer need to destroy Obama?


They still need to punish the American people for voting him in.
 
2012-11-02 04:57:59 PM

MrBallou: What would be the incentive to keep being asshats, if they no longer need to destroy Obama?


Because their constituents would never vote for them if they cooperated with the Dems, and especially with Osama Hussein Fartb0ngma0. Until the Tea Party threat is completely gone, Repubs can't come to the middle of the aisle.
 
2012-11-02 05:05:41 PM

The Onion is prophetic: MrBallou: What would be the incentive to keep being asshats, if they no longer need to destroy Obama?

Because their constituents would never vote for them if they cooperated with the Dems, and especially with Osama Hussein Fartb0ngma0. Until the Tea Party threat is completely gone, Repubs can't come to the middle of the aisle.


I don't know about that. People seem to be getting tired of the teahadist thing. The House has it's lowest approval ratings ever, from doing just what you're saying. These guys can't be that oblivious, unless they really are just pure evil. Plus the ni-BONG will be gone in 2016 anyway, so who cares about the rest?

One other thing to consider is sequestration. Heads are going to roll in the heartland next election if the military budget gets cut. They need to let a budget happen to save their own asses.
 
2012-11-02 05:07:08 PM
Done in 1.
 
2012-11-02 05:09:20 PM

MrBallou: What would be the incentive to keep being asshats, if they no longer need to destroy Obama?


This was my thought as well. If the obstruction was to ensure Obama is a "one term president," it would seem that in a second term the GOP would be more pliable. Thing is, I just don't trust any of these people not to find some other reason to fight the president at every turn.
 
2012-11-02 05:13:53 PM

The Third Man: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

Richard Mourdock?


Allen West?

Ted Poe?
 
2012-11-02 05:17:13 PM
GOP 2012

America, if we can't have you then no one can!
 
2012-11-02 05:18:24 PM

cretinbob: [www.teach-ict.com image 271x147] more like this


I C what you did there.
 
2012-11-02 05:19:05 PM

Nadie_AZ: "You know that if the President is re-elected, he will still be unable to work with the people in Congress," Romney said. "He has ignored them, attacked them, blamed them. The debt ceiling will come up again, and shutdown and default will be threatened, chilling the economy."

He's good. I give him that. He's a great liar.


Stating that the GOP Congress will sabotage America out of pure spite is probably the most truthful thing he's said the entire campaign.
 
2012-11-02 05:19:59 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: I'm beginning to think that, perhaps, Mr Romney is a refugee from the Bizarro Universe where things mean their opposites.


Hah hah; someone get turtle face a peanut.
 
2012-11-02 05:20:54 PM
Fark them. If Obama is reelected he should do everything in his power to screw over the people who didn't vote for him. For 4 years he has tried to compromise when the other side stood there and acted like spoiled children throwing a tempertantrum. If Obama is re elected its time to make a point. They had the chance to compromise and they didn't, its time for red states to suffer.
 
2012-11-02 05:21:23 PM
And if we elect him, he'll rubber-stamp everything put in front of him on the demands of David Koch, Sheldon Adelson, Paul Ryan, and Mitch "The Talking Turtle" McConnell. In that order.
 
2012-11-02 05:21:42 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

 
2012-11-02 05:21:43 PM
Rmoney's stepford wife is brfinging their white horse into Washington as we speak so that after the mormoon coup Williard can ride into the white house garden, depose the costitutional arch-abrogator and thereby fulfill Josiah Smith's last prophesy. The capital will then be moved to Salt lake City.

Seriously, this will happen if the voters make the wrong choice on Tuesday.
 
2012-11-02 05:21:45 PM
I'm going to Romney's last rally up here on Monday. I'm hopingnthatbhe just tells America that he's played them hook, line, and sinker or that he unveils the GOP economic doomsday machine.

/The point of the doomsday machine is lost....if you keep it a secret!
//Why didnt you tell the world, eh!?
 
2012-11-02 05:23:21 PM

MrBallou: The Onion is prophetic: MrBallou: What would be the incentive to keep being asshats, if they no longer need to destroy Obama?

Because their constituents would never vote for them if they cooperated with the Dems, and especially with Osama Hussein Fartb0ngma0. Until the Tea Party threat is completely gone, Repubs can't come to the middle of the aisle.

I don't know about that. People seem to be getting tired of the teahadist thing. The House has it's lowest approval ratings ever, from doing just what you're saying. These guys can't be that oblivious, unless they really are just pure evil. Plus the ni-BONG will be gone in 2016 anyway, so who cares about the rest?

One other thing to consider is sequestration. Heads are going to roll in the heartland next election if the military budget gets cut. They need to let a budget happen to save their own asses.


The problem is, that when you get to say your specific represenative, everyone is suddenly all gung ho for them. People despise the House in the abstract and the general feeling than they're the hold up, but unwilling to blame specific members (ESPECIALLY their own). It's why there is often attempts to focus in on SPECIFIC people of the House to burden that dislike on one side or the other (Pelosi, etc etc).
 
2012-11-02 05:23:55 PM

Kimothy: When I read crap like this, I often wish the South would've been successful in their secession. Then we'd have the first world United States next to the failed experiment third world Confederate States. They'd probably be sick of their own shiat by now and attempting to make some progress. Instead, they are stuck trying to force on the rest of us their ass-backward theological, racial, and patriotic beliefs that achieve nothing but division, distress, and produce demagogues who pander to the fear of their under- and uneducated masses.

Seriously, do we still need these people in the 21st century?


I love you.
 
2012-11-02 05:24:10 PM

The Onion is prophetic: MrBallou: What would be the incentive to keep being asshats, if they no longer need to destroy Obama?

Because their constituents would never vote for them if they cooperated with the Dems, and especially with Osama Hussein Fartb0ngma0. Until the Tea Party threat is completely gone, Repubs can't come to the middle of the aisle.


Considering the age of the average Teabagger, that might be possible by 2014.

/The Republican party still needs to GTFO. Even without the vocal crazies, their ideas do nothing but harm everyone who isn't a white, wealthy male, Christian.
 
2012-11-02 05:24:11 PM

dickfreckle: MrBallou: What would be the incentive to keep being asshats, if they no longer need to destroy Obama?

This was my thought as well. If the obstruction was to ensure Obama is a "one term president," it would seem that in a second term the GOP would be more pliable. Thing is, I just don't trust any of these people not to find some other reason to fight the president at every turn.


In general 2nd terms suck balls for all Presidents. They're considered 'lame ducks', and the other side of the aisle just drag their feet or create distractions, because they know they're going to be out of Washington in 4 years.

The only thing that might make this one different, is that there's a shiatload of stuff that the GOP want (increased military pork, maintaining historically low tax rates for the wealthiest Americans) that will expire unless they come to the bargaining table in good faith.
 
2012-11-02 05:24:36 PM

MrBallou: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

Maybe I'm begin hopelessly naive again, but it occurs to me that, if the reason the GOP House wanted to trash the economy to make Obama look bad was so he wouldn't be reelected, then, in his second term, they will not have that reason, since he can't run again anyway.

Instead, individual congressmen will be needing to make themselves look better for their own reelection bids starting in 2014. They'll also want to make the GOP look better in general to give the eventual Presidential nominee a better starting position.

What would be the incentive to keep being asshats, if they no longer need to destroy Obama?


Well, consider the waysin which they were being asshats.

1). Holding the US economy hostage for:
A). Their tax cuts. B). Keystone

2). Insist that business gets an exception to Obamacare.
3). Insist that states get an exception to Obamacare.
4). Wastes money trying to kill Obamacare.

The list goes on. Ideologically, this is simply how they feel. I mean - I'm sure they were more extreme given their intent on making Obama a one term president but do you honestly believe their positions would have reversed if it was another president?

They're asshats.
 
2012-11-02 05:25:16 PM
Next: Mitt Romney will channel Oral Roberts and say if he is not elected president, his god will call him home to Kolob. 

Get f*cked with a chainsaw, Mitt.
 
2012-11-02 05:26:42 PM
i1127.photobucket.com

He's desperate! Do what he say!
 
2012-11-02 05:27:38 PM
 
2012-11-02 05:28:00 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: I'm beginning to think that, perhaps, Mr Romney is a refugee from the Bizarro Universe where things mean their opposites.


comiccoverage.typepad.com
 
2012-11-02 05:29:25 PM
I'd suggest building a rocket and launching GOP Congressmen into the Sun, but they'd just figure out a way to obstruct it, blanket the Earth in darkness, and blame Obama for it.
 
2012-11-02 05:29:41 PM
So... he's telling us not to vote for any other Republican candidates?

... well, OK, I guess.

//Actually too late, the dude I was going to vote for against my national rep apparently withdrew, and the other guy running against is worse, so one (R) on the ticket for me. Oh, well.
 
2012-11-02 05:30:05 PM

MrBallou: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

Maybe I'm begin hopelessly naive again, but it occurs to me that, if the reason the GOP House wanted to trash the economy to make Obama look bad was so he wouldn't be reelected, then, in his second term, they will not have that reason, since he can't run again anyway.

Instead, individual congressmen will be needing to make themselves look better for their own reelection bids starting in 2014. They'll also want to make the GOP look better in general to give the eventual Presidential nominee a better starting position.

What would be the incentive to keep being asshats, if they no longer need to destroy Obama?


Because fark you, that's why.
 
2012-11-02 05:31:24 PM

TV's Vinnie: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: I'm beginning to think that, perhaps, Mr Romney is a refugee from the Bizarro Universe where things mean their opposites.

[comiccoverage.typepad.com image 428x753]


If my understanding of Bizarro is correct the isn't he technically say that he has a horrible place and hates his country?
 
2012-11-02 05:31:35 PM

that bosnian sniper: I'd suggest building a rocket and launching GOP Congressmen into the Sun, but they'd just figure out a way to obstruct it, blanket the Earth in darkness, and blame Obama for it.


So that's what Norris meant about a 1000 years of darkness?
 
2012-11-02 05:31:39 PM
What's sad is that may be the best objective reason to vote for him. There might be slightly less sabotaging of the legislative process.
 
2012-11-02 05:31:51 PM

abb3w: As the de facto perennial logic-lessons [img.fark.net image 54x11]er, I feel obliged to point out that even if the assertion is true, this use of "OR" in the headline is not necessarily an exclusive disjunction.


You raise a good point. I don't really think Mittens will do a better job working the Tea Party crazies then Obama would.
 
2012-11-02 05:32:14 PM

Bag of Hammers: GOP 2012
America, if we can't have you then no one can!


It is pretty amazing how the reasoning of a lot of them reminds me of my psycho ex. I guess it's why nothing I ever hear from them shocks me. I already heard it, from a guy who "loved" me more than anyone. Just like the Republicans love America more than any lib ever could.
 
2012-11-02 05:32:20 PM

Granny_Panties: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

 
2012-11-02 05:32:49 PM
Rmoney's threats must be working, as the latest CNN Poll has Obama up 3 points in Ohio.
 
2012-11-02 05:33:12 PM

that bosnian sniper: I'd suggest building a rocket and launching GOP Congressmen into the Sun, but they'd just figure out a way to obstruct it, blanket the Earth in darkness, and blame Obama for it.


If the Republicans ever got their hands on the Necronomicon, they'd waken dread Cthulhu, blame the Democrats for not stopping them, and then block any attempts to seal him back in R'lyeh unless they also got to eliminate all taxes on the rich and force the entire working class into slave camps.
 
2012-11-02 05:33:19 PM
GOP - fark you terrorists!!!
 
2012-11-02 05:33:33 PM

Kimothy: When I read crap like this, I often wish the South would've been successful in their secession. Then we'd have the first world United States next to the failed experiment third world Confederate States. They'd probably be sick of their own shiat by now and attempting to make some progress. Instead, they are stuck trying to force on the rest of us their ass-backward theological, racial, and patriotic beliefs that achieve nothing but division, distress, and produce demagogues who pander to the fear of their under- and uneducated masses.


I've been wondering recently, instead of the South seceding and forming a New Confederacy, could we just kick them out and close the borders? Same end result, but it would certainly be more proactive.
 
2012-11-02 05:33:59 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Sounds like he's suggesting that people vote the Democrats back into power in congress.


That how I'd call that. Kick those guys out of that House of yours and don't let them back in until they learn how to play well with others.
What an ass... Vote for me or my boys are going to take a baseball bat to the knees of the (world) economy. Wow.
 
2012-11-02 05:34:19 PM

Hunter_Worthington: abb3w: As the de facto perennial logic-lessons [img.fark.net image 54x11]er, I feel obliged to point out that even if the assertion is true, this use of "OR" in the headline is not necessarily an exclusive disjunction.

You raise a good point. I don't really think Mittens will do a better job working the Tea Party crazies then Obama would.


Well, he WOULD give them everything they ask for, as long as it doesn't hurt corporate profits.
 
2012-11-02 05:34:42 PM
pajamasmedia.com

Who said the GOP couldn't do humor?
 
2012-11-02 05:34:45 PM
Well that's the way to get votes. This is the last whimper of a dying campaign.

I swear, if barack hadn't done the most miserable job imaginable during the first debate this whole thing would have been over weeks ago.
 
2012-11-02 05:34:53 PM
Hey, America. Nice country you got here. Nice economy. Shame to see anything happen to it. You know, our guy in the White House might be able to stop something from happening to it, if you know what I mean.*

*We're gonna wreck it either way, but maybe you will get a cushy job in the work camp.
 
2012-11-02 05:34:57 PM
How is this any different from extortion?
 
2012-11-02 05:34:57 PM

thomps: you guys realize that all you are doing is sounding like some sort of hyperbolic hive-mind. and also you're probably signing yourselves up for some soon-to-be created republican gulag.


Paging skookum to the thread, skookum, you are wanted in thread 7414262.
 
2012-11-02 05:35:36 PM

heap: dickfreckle:

Uh, a list of the biggest assholes in Congress includes far more than just Southerners. I'm not sure why you're blaming everything on us.

it's less blame, and more a situation of acknowledging the south actually tried the 'screw you guys, i'm going home' routine, paired with an intuition it may have been a better idea to just wave at them as they left.

if we play our cards right, within 25 posts, this can be a 'the civil war wasn't about slavery' thread.


weeee.


Ok, I'll bite:

It actually wasn't about slavery. It was about rich white men throwing a colossal hissy fit over the idea that someone else could place any practical limits in their power, privilege, or self-indulgence. Slavery was just a nifty way to sucker poor racist idiots into doing their fighting for them.

Proof? If there had been no money in slavery, it would have ended. Stat.

/ yeah, I went there
 
2012-11-02 05:37:26 PM
What a bunch of dicks.

Hey Republicans, do you see Chris Christie and Obama working together? That's how it's supposed to be all the time. We're electing you to get a job done. Stop making up bullshiat lies to get people to hate Obama, tough it out, and work with the guy even if you don't like him like everyone else in the country has to do with their coworkers they dislike.

The worst is with all this Unskewed Polls nonsense, there's very little chance Republicans will grow the fark up after the election and admit they lost. My workplace would be a farking wreck if everyone just accused each other of "not actually being hired," and refused to work because "the other guy just doesn't understand what it means to work for this company."
 
2012-11-02 05:37:32 PM

whistleridge: heap: dickfreckle:

Uh, a list of the biggest assholes in Congress includes far more than just Southerners. I'm not sure why you're blaming everything on us.

it's less blame, and more a situation of acknowledging the south actually tried the 'screw you guys, i'm going home' routine, paired with an intuition it may have been a better idea to just wave at them as they left.

if we play our cards right, within 25 posts, this can be a 'the civil war wasn't about slavery' thread.


weeee.

Ok, I'll bite:

It actually wasn't about slavery. It was about rich white men throwing a colossal hissy fit over the idea that someone else could place any practical limits in their power, privilege, or self-indulgence. Slavery was just a nifty way to sucker poor racist idiots into doing their fighting for them.

Proof? If there had been no money in slavery, it would have ended. Stat.

/ yeah, I went there


More to the point, it was white aristocrats fighting white aristocrats over who got to control a particular labor underclass. It was largely about slavery in the sense that the slaves were the resource being fought over.
 
2012-11-02 05:37:40 PM
ya know, Mitt, I'm willing to risk it.
 
2012-11-02 05:38:25 PM

NkThrasher: What's sad is that may be the best objective reason to vote for him. There might be slightly less sabotaging of the legislative process.


NO NEGOTIATING WITH TERRORISTS!
 
2012-11-02 05:39:32 PM

Tamater: What would be the incentive to keep being asshats, if they no longer need to destroy Obama?

Because fark you, that's why.


OK, that I can believe. Buncha asshats
 
2012-11-02 05:40:09 PM

dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?


It's post-truth politics. Or something. I don't know anymore. I'm post-sick of their bullshiat.
 
2012-11-02 05:40:30 PM

Blowmonkey: Well that's the way to get votes. This is the last whimper of a dying campaign.

I swear, if barack hadn't done the most miserable job imaginable during the first debate this whole thing would have been over weeks ago.


Nope. Gotta have that farking horse race.
 
2012-11-02 05:41:26 PM

abb3w: The Third Man: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

Richard Mourdock?

Allen West?

Ted Poe?


Darrell Issa?
 
2012-11-02 05:42:52 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: whistleridge: heap: dickfreckle:

Uh, a list of the biggest assholes in Congress includes far more than just Southerners. I'm not sure why you're blaming everything on us.

it's less blame, and more a situation of acknowledging the south actually tried the 'screw you guys, i'm going home' routine, paired with an intuition it may have been a better idea to just wave at them as they left.

if we play our cards right, within 25 posts, this can be a 'the civil war wasn't about slavery' thread.


weeee.

Ok, I'll bite:

It actually wasn't about slavery. It was about rich white men throwing a colossal hissy fit over the idea that someone else could place any practical limits in their power, privilege, or self-indulgence. Slavery was just a nifty way to sucker poor racist idiots into doing their fighting for them.

Proof? If there had been no money in slavery, it would have ended. Stat.

/ yeah, I went there

More to the point, it was white aristocrats fighting white aristocrats over who got to control a particular labor underclass. It was largely about slavery in the sense that the slaves were the resource being fought over.


You shut your whore mouth! The northern armies were populated and led by nothing but virtuous saints and noble crusader-kings, bravely sacrificing all for nothing more than the honor of knowing they were doing the right thing!
 
2012-11-02 05:43:35 PM

DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties:



Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

 
2012-11-02 05:43:45 PM

theorellior: Kimothy: When I read crap like this, I often wish the South would've been successful in their secession. Then we'd have the first world United States next to the failed experiment third world Confederate States. They'd probably be sick of their own shiat by now and attempting to make some progress. Instead, they are stuck trying to force on the rest of us their ass-backward theological, racial, and patriotic beliefs that achieve nothing but division, distress, and produce demagogues who pander to the fear of their under- and uneducated masses.

I've been wondering recently, instead of the South seceding and forming a New Confederacy, could we just kick them out and close the borders? Same end result, but it would certainly be more proactive.


I'd vote for a Constitutional Amendment that does just that.... would be awesome. They'd be "Handmaid's Tale" crazy in less than a year, I bet.
 
2012-11-02 05:43:54 PM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: abb3w: The Third Man: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

Richard Mourdock?

Allen West?

Ted Poe?

Darrell Issa?


Mike Turzai?
 
2012-11-02 05:44:03 PM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: abb3w: The Third Man: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

Richard Mourdock?

Allen West?

Ted Poe?

Darrell Issa?


Let me just hand that list to my buddy, Jack. He's a repairman.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2012-11-02 05:45:06 PM
Old Story is Old...

This has been around about 10 days or so. This is shot on Super-8 film. The problem with that is that Super-8 was invented in 1965. Barry was "invented" in 1961.

Someone was even going onto the Wikipedia web page changing the super-8 invention date back to 1960 to make this seem more legitimate... or something.
 
2012-11-02 05:45:15 PM

InmanRoshi: that will expire unless they come to the bargaining table in good faith.


they haven't done that for 4 years now. Obama would be nuts to trust them having been bitten so many times. IMO Obama ought to tell them he will only do some extreme left thing and let them crawl to the left of center to get a few tidbits.
 
2012-11-02 05:45:38 PM

Kimothy: theorellior: Kimothy: When I read crap like this, I often wish the South would've been successful in their secession. Then we'd have the first world United States next to the failed experiment third world Confederate States. They'd probably be sick of their own shiat by now and attempting to make some progress. Instead, they are stuck trying to force on the rest of us their ass-backward theological, racial, and patriotic beliefs that achieve nothing but division, distress, and produce demagogues who pander to the fear of their under- and uneducated masses.

I've been wondering recently, instead of the South seceding and forming a New Confederacy, could we just kick them out and close the borders? Same end result, but it would certainly be more proactive.

I'd vote for a Constitutional Amendment that does just that.... would be awesome. They'd be "Handmaid's Tale" crazy in less than a year, I bet.


I worry about the smell but other than that it sounds like a good idea.
 
2012-11-02 05:45:45 PM
So, if Mittens doesn't get his way, it's hot spicy death for all of us?

Fark you Mitt. Fark you sideways through a woodchipper.
 
2012-11-02 05:46:20 PM
d23: This is shot on Super-8 film.

Are you a wizard?
 
2012-11-02 05:47:12 PM
"Elect Me Or House GOP Will Wreck The Economy"

jaclpetersen.files.wordpress.com

AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!
 
2012-11-02 05:47:24 PM
They're called Teatards for a reason.
 
2012-11-02 05:48:01 PM
And now that's blackmail.
 
2012-11-02 05:48:31 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: More to the point, it was white aristocrats fighting white aristocrats over who got to control a particular labor underclass. It was largely about slavery in the sense that the slaves were the resource being fought over.


Which is why, after the North won, blacks continued to be slaves. Amirite?
 
2012-11-02 05:48:48 PM

YoungSwedishBlonde: [pajamasmedia.com image 304x407]

Who said the GOP couldn't do humor?


CSB
I was reading that issue, looking at the photo phunnies, (yes, bare breasts) in study hall in middle school and got suspended. Guess where? Salt Lake City, UT, seat of the Mormon church.

No chance I'd vote for Mittens, even if the Reps stop beating their servants.
 
2012-11-02 05:48:52 PM
Paging:

"Scorched Earth" screenshot from B5
 
2012-11-02 05:49:21 PM

ultraholland: d23: This is shot on Super-8 film.

Are you a wizard?


No, just in the wrong thread. Pretty sure he meant to comment on the 'nimrod' post up there...
 
2012-11-02 05:49:27 PM

Kimothy: theorellior: Kimothy: When I read crap like this, I often wish the South would've been successful in their secession. Then we'd have the first world United States next to the failed experiment third world Confederate States. They'd probably be sick of their own shiat by now and attempting to make some progress. Instead, they are stuck trying to force on the rest of us their ass-backward theological, racial, and patriotic beliefs that achieve nothing but division, distress, and produce demagogues who pander to the fear of their under- and uneducated masses.

I've been wondering recently, instead of the South seceding and forming a New Confederacy, could we just kick them out and close the borders? Same end result, but it would certainly be more proactive.

I'd vote for a Constitutional Amendment that does just that.... would be awesome. They'd be "Handmaid's Tale" crazy in less than a year, I bet.


Fark y'all.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-02 05:50:17 PM
 
2012-11-02 05:50:28 PM

thomps: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

you guys realize that all you are doing is sounding like some sort of hyperbolic hive-mind. and also you're probably signing yourselves up for some soon-to-be created republican gulag.


I thought Skookum was retired.
 
2012-11-02 05:50:53 PM

bdub77: Hey Mitt. Get f*cked.


^^^
 
2012-11-02 05:52:32 PM
If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.
 
2012-11-02 05:53:12 PM
If obama wins, it should be taken as an indictment of how unappealing the gop has become. Obama should have been an easy incumbent to oust, but their message is just toxic. They're going to lose ground in congress. I expect democrat majorities in both houses by 2015 unless the gop can change their message, and they wouldn't have forgotten 2010-2012. They'll ram everything through.
 
2012-11-02 05:53:17 PM

Hagbardr: I thought Skookum was retired


But we're still on his list, right?
 
2012-11-02 05:53:57 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: that bosnian sniper: I'd suggest building a rocket and launching GOP Congressmen into the Sun, but they'd just figure out a way to obstruct it, blanket the Earth in darkness, and blame Obama for it.

If the Republicans ever got their hands on the Necronomicon, they'd waken dread Cthulhu, blame the Democrats for not stopping them, and then block any attempts to seal him back in R'lyeh unless they also got to eliminate all taxes on the rich and force the entire working class into slave camps.


Dude! Did you run this campaign in Northern IL, like 20 years ago?



What? Why is everyone looking at me?
 
2012-11-02 05:54:02 PM

CorporatePerson: What a bunch of dicks.

Hey Republicans, do you see Chris Christie and Obama working together? That's how it's supposed to be all the time. We're electing you to get a job done. Stop making up bullshiat lies to get people to hate Obama, tough it out, and work with the guy
even if you don't like him like everyone else in the country has to do with their coworkers they dislike.


Heh. A Republican at work was whining about that. Besides the standard RINO comments, he biatched how "Obama did what he was supposed to do, so why even mention it? he should only mention Obama is it's negative." He couldn't comprehend that someone could be a Republican (or even an American) and have something positive to say about Obama.

d23: Old Story is Old...

This has been around about 10 days or so. This is shot on Super-8 film. The problem with that is that Super-8 was invented in 1965. Barry was "invented" in 1961.

Someone was even going onto the Wikipedia web page changing the super-8 invention date back to 1960 to make this seem more legitimate... or something.


What the fark are you talking about.
 
2012-11-02 05:54:07 PM
Heh.
 
2012-11-02 05:54:16 PM
"Vote for me or the economy gets it."
 
2012-11-02 05:54:28 PM

Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.


You need a power reset.
 
2012-11-02 05:54:45 PM

Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.


Oh so passing the republicans own health care law wasn't good enough? Get your head out of your ass.
 
2012-11-02 05:55:42 PM

bdub77: Hey Mitt. Get f*cked.


Here she comes now sayin' RMony RMony
"Hey America! Get screwed, get f*cked!"
Shoot 'em down, turn around, come on RMony
"Hey America! Get screwed, get f*cked!"
Hey! He give me tax cuts and I feel all right now
"Hey America! Get screwed, get f*cked!"
You gotta toss and turn and feel all dirty
"Hey America! Get screwed, get f*cked!"
Yeah, I feel all right I said yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah (Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah)

'Cause you make me feel, like a Phony
So good, like a Phony
So good, like a Phony
So good, RMony RMony
 
2012-11-02 05:55:59 PM

PainInTheASP: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

 
2012-11-02 05:56:59 PM
You know what these kind of people got back in the day? A good 'guy gets down like a dog while other guy pushes him over' Then everyone laughed at him and wouldn't let him play basketball. I hope Obama/Biden do literally that to Romney one day.
 
2012-11-02 05:57:56 PM

whistleridge: You shut your whore mouth! The northern armies were populated and led by nothing but virtuous saints and noble crusader-kings, bravely sacrificing all for nothing more than the honor of knowing they were doing the right thing!


Hey! Stop throwing that strawman around so much! You're getting stuffing on my desk!

Seriously, no one thinks that the Union was perfect. But quite a few people do think the whitewashing of history by the Sons of the Confederacy is kinda revolting.
 
2012-11-02 05:58:00 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The United States does not negotiate with terrorists.


Came here to say this.
 
2012-11-02 05:58:41 PM

drewsclues: Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.

Oh so passing the republicans own health care law wasn't good enough? Get your head out of your ass.


That really isn't the spirit of cooperation I was envisioning.
 
2012-11-02 05:58:57 PM

HeartBurnKid: A Dark Evil Omen: More to the point, it was white aristocrats fighting white aristocrats over who got to control a particular labor underclass. It was largely about slavery in the sense that the slaves were the resource being fought over.

Which is why, after the North won, blacks continued to be slaves. Amirite?


No, instead they were forced into the absolute bottom rung of capitalist society as wage slaves, often with worse quality of life than they "enjoyed" as slaves.
 
2012-11-02 05:58:57 PM
Rmoney: From day one, I will go to work to help Americans get back to work.

Romney Administration Day One Agenda
1. Label China a currency manipulator. Make them play fair
2. Help Americans get back to work. Create 12 million jobs.
3. Overturn Roe v. Wade.
4. Bomb Iran. Negotiations have failed.
5. Repeal Obamacare to preserve freedom of choice. No, not that choice. See (3).
6. Build a fence along the southern border.
7. Break for lunch.
8. Deport Messicans. This helps us achieve (2).
9. Abolish FEMA. No, wait...keep it.
10. Increase military funding by $2T dollars.
11. Achieve energy independence
12. ...

He's gonna have a busy first day.
 
2012-11-02 05:59:00 PM

Warlordtrooper: Fark them. If Obama is reelected he should do everything in his power to screw over the people who didn't vote for him. For 4 years he has tried to compromise when the other side stood there and acted like spoiled children throwing a tempertantrum. If Obama is re elected its time to make a point. They had the chance to compromise and they didn't, its time for red states to suffer.


As a Democrat who lives in Georgia, fark you.
 
2012-11-02 06:01:10 PM

theorellior: whistleridge: You shut your whore mouth! The northern armies were populated and led by nothing but virtuous saints and noble crusader-kings, bravely sacrificing all for nothing more than the honor of knowing they were doing the right thing!

Hey! Stop throwing that strawman around so much! You're getting stuffing on my desk!

Seriously, no one thinks that the Union was perfect. But quite a few people do think the whitewashing of history by the Sons of the Confederacy is kinda revolting.


Sure, presenting the South as anything other than a tyrannical slave empire is disingenuous. Similarly, however, presenting the North as anything other than a brutal plutocracy as similarly disingenuous.
 
2012-11-02 06:01:15 PM
I'm surprised Romney isn't pushing the 0.1% increase in unemployment. Are most people not the mindless lemmings I thought they were? At 8:30 this morning, I figured the unemployment number would be pushed as Romney's "October Surpise", 2 days late.
 
2012-11-02 06:01:42 PM
Mitt, why would you ever say that? You just coup de grace'd yourself.
 
2012-11-02 06:01:55 PM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: Warlordtrooper: Fark them. If Obama is reelected he should do everything in his power to screw over the people who didn't vote for him. For 4 years he has tried to compromise when the other side stood there and acted like spoiled children throwing a tempertantrum. If Obama is re elected its time to make a point. They had the chance to compromise and they didn't, its time for red states to suffer.

As a Democrat who lives in Georgia, fark you.


As a Democrat who lives in Georgia, he's got a point. We should move to Cali and let the South freaking secede already.
 
2012-11-02 06:02:21 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The United States does not negotiate with terrorists.


Done in one.
 
2012-11-02 06:04:20 PM
Gridlock is better than crony payoff laden legislation passed under the guise to stimulate the economy.
 
2012-11-02 06:04:22 PM
You know, Bush II won the popular vote by about the same margin Silver is predicting for Obama. In his victory speech Bush went on about how he had political capital and a mandate to continue his policies. I seriously hope Obama uses the opportunity to point out that the GOP can't use the "one term president" agenda anymore and need to stop their teahadist tantrum to move on and get the country's business done.
 
2012-11-02 06:05:02 PM
Yeah, we know.
 
2012-11-02 06:05:27 PM
... the people going on about how "red states should suffer" realize that basically every state is split within spitting distance of 50/50 in basically every election, right? We've been one nation and not a loose confederacy of independent states since the 1780s, and regional cultural and economic differences really aren't that big compared to most of the rest of the world.
 
2012-11-02 06:05:55 PM

TheBigJerk: Yeah, we know.


Try again:

i935.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-02 06:06:41 PM
The tea party, ladies and gentlemen, destroying America since the blah guy entered the White House.

Give 'em a big hand!
 
2012-11-02 06:07:06 PM

dickfreckle: Kimothy: When I read crap like this, I often wish the South would've been successful in their secession. Then we'd have the first world United States next to the failed experiment third world Confederate States. They'd probably be sick of their own shiat by now and attempting to make some progress. Instead, they are stuck trying to force on the rest of us their ass-backward theological, racial, and patriotic beliefs that achieve nothing but division, distress, and produce demagogues who pander to the fear of their under- and uneducated masses.

Seriously, do we still need these people in the 21st century?

Uh, a list of the biggest assholes in Congress includes far more than just Southerners. I'm not sure why you're blaming everything on us.


Occam.
 
2012-11-02 06:07:25 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.


Maybe not the greatest threat, but they'll do.
 
2012-11-02 06:07:41 PM
David Brooks made much the same argument. Elect Romney because Obama won't be able to get anything done because of GOP obstructionism.

In other words "Just give in to the blackmail."
 
2012-11-02 06:08:18 PM

Fuggin Bizzy: Rmoney: From day one, I will go to work to help Americans get back to work.

Romney Administration Day One Agenda
1. Label China a currency manipulator. Make them play fair
2. Help Americans get back to work. Create 12 million jobs.
3. Overturn Roe v. Wade.
4. Bomb Iran. Negotiations have failed.
5. Repeal Obamacare to preserve freedom of choice. No, not that choice. See (3).
6. Build a fence along the southern border.
7. Break for lunch.
8. Deport Messicans. This helps us achieve (2).
9. Abolish FEMA. No, wait...keep it.
10. Increase military funding by $2T dollars.
11. Achieve energy independence
12. ...

He's gonna have a busy first day.


And lasers. I would have started with lasers, eight o'clock, day one.

i498.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-02 06:08:23 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The United States does not negotiate with terrorists.


We negotiated with them last time, and now they're gonna hold the country hostage again. That's why you aren't supposed to do it.

Unfortunately, the GOP is too rich and white to throw in prison like the rest.
 
2012-11-02 06:09:27 PM

fusillade762: David Brooks made much the same argument. Elect Romney because Obama won't be able to get anything done because of GOP obstructionism.

In other words "Just give in to the blackmail."


Your impending rape is inevitable. Just lie back and enjoy it.
 
2012-11-02 06:10:05 PM
Romney said that Obama "promised to be a post-partisan president, but he became the most partisan."



This lie is the foundation of what the right has given the American people in the last four years.
 
2012-11-02 06:10:21 PM

a_bilge_monkey: fusillade762: David Brooks made much the same argument. Elect Romney because Obama won't be able to get anything done because of GOP obstructionism.

In other words "Just give in to the blackmail."

Your impending rape is inevitable. Just lie back and enjoy it.


Some populaces, they just rape easy.
 
2012-11-02 06:10:44 PM

Uh Oh Chongo Danger Island!: Gridlock is better than crony payoff laden legislation passed under the guise to stimulate the economy.


Gridlock on the 'fiscal cliff' is not better than anything. If Republicans in the house insist on being ideologically pure for their tea party loonies at home, they will be solely responsible for casting a slowly recovering country back into recession. Principles are fine until they conflict with pragmatism and, for the right wingers in this country, pragmatism is either a 4-letter word or a synonym for socialism.
 
2012-11-02 06:12:08 PM

a_bilge_monkey: You know, Bush II won the popular vote by about the same margin Silver is predicting for Obama. In his victory speech Bush went on about how he had political capital and a mandate to continue his policies. I seriously hope Obama uses the opportunity to point out that the GOP can't use the "one term president" agenda anymore and need to stop their teahadist tantrum to move on and get the country's business done.


Oh, they don't care that he's on his second and last term. They'll still say they want to work in a bi-partisan manner, and they'll still block and filibuster everything he tries to do in the hope of keeping the recovery at a slow boil.

That way, they think, they can blame the continued slow recovery on Obama and usher in a Republican President in 2012. At which point they can take the brakes off, let the economy speed up, blame Obama (even more) for the slow recovery, and praise themselves and THEIR guy for knowing what to do to get the economy rolling.
 
2012-11-02 06:12:36 PM
i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-02 06:12:37 PM

Uh Oh Chongo Danger Island!: Gridlock is better than crony payoff laden legislation passed under the guise to stimulate the economy.


As a deficit lite-hawk, I know I'm out of the mainstream on this, but, if sequestration actually happened, I would probably not be completely unhappy.
 
2012-11-02 06:14:02 PM
Did he just completely forget the Senate?
 
2012-11-02 06:14:31 PM

Via Infinito: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: abb3w: The Third Man: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

Richard Mourdock?

Allen West?

Ted Poe?

Darrell Issa?

Mike Turzai?


Chief?
 
2012-11-02 06:15:28 PM

Uh Oh Chongo Danger Island!: Gridlock is better than crony payoff laden legislation passed under the guise to stimulate the economy.


Well, its a pretty simple calculation if you are just using cold heartless logic :

if (economy after stimulus - graft) > economy without stimulus then go ahead with stimulus
 
2012-11-02 06:15:28 PM
I wonder if the Senate will change the filibuster rules after the last four years?
 
2012-11-02 06:16:01 PM

dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?


I'm just gonna leave this here...

First, as to your remarks in Jamaica concerning the possible realignment of the Republican and Democratic parties into "conservative" and "liberal" parties. Whatever the circumstances of the statement, you have indicated that you believe that might be "a happy thing." I disagree.

We need only look at the experience of some ideologically oriented parties in Europe to realize that chaos can result. Dogmatic ideological parties tend to splinter the political and social fabric of a nation, lead to governmental crises and deadlock, and stymie the compromises so often necessary to preserve freedom and achieve progress. A broad based two party structure produces a degree of political stability and viability not otherwise attainable."

- George Romney, in a letter to Barry Goldwater, December 21, 1964
 
2012-11-02 06:16:05 PM
"He has ignored them, attacked them, blamed them."



No Mitt, quite the opposite, and republican obstructionism is starting to piss more and more people off.
 
2012-11-02 06:18:33 PM

Via Infinito: NkThrasher: What's sad is that may be the best objective reason to vote for him. There might be slightly less sabotaging of the legislative process.

NO NEGOTIATING WITH TERRORISTS!


I'm actually quite serious. What else does he have as an objective argument for him?

It's the only basic concept that I've been wrestling with about his candidacy throughout the whole process. Bad government doing bad things but at least doing something vs dysfunctional government doing nothing.
 
2012-11-02 06:19:08 PM

coyo: Uh Oh Chongo Danger Island!: Gridlock is better than crony payoff laden legislation passed under the guise to stimulate the economy.

Well, its a pretty simple calculation if you are just using cold heartless logic :

if (economy after stimulus - graft) > economy without stimulus then go ahead with stimulus


If the Republicans would bring one of the several goddamn jobs bills to the floor for a vote, we could get rolling without Mitt's cronyism.

/Also, an infrastructure and research bill for roads, bridges, electrical backbone, flood prevention, internet, etc, etc.
 
2012-11-02 06:19:53 PM

jasimo: I wonder if the Senate will change the filibuster rules after the last four years?


Harry Reid promises filibuster reform if Dems win the election
 
2012-11-02 06:20:05 PM

Cletus C.: drewsclues: Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.

Oh so passing the republicans own health care law wasn't good enough? Get your head out of your ass.

That really isn't the spirit of cooperation I was envisioning.



Turtle Boy and the GOP have gone out of their way to avoid even the appearance of bipartisanship. Your argument is invalid.
 
2012-11-02 06:20:15 PM

MrBallou: Instead, individual congressmen will be needing to make themselves look better for their own reelection bids starting in 2014. They'll also want to make the GOP look better in general to give the eventual Presidential nominee a better starting position.

What would be the incentive to keep being asshats, if they no longer need to destroy Obama?


Depends on whether the Tea Party is still able to mount primary challenges against non-asshats.
 
2012-11-02 06:21:40 PM

Zeno-25: jasimo: I wonder if the Senate will change the filibuster rules after the last four years?

Harry Reid promises filibuster reform if Dems win the election


Awesome. Thanks for the find.
 
2012-11-02 06:22:08 PM
Romney was the first governor in modern Massachusetts history to deny every request for a pardon or commutation during his four years in office. He denied 100 requests for commutations and 172 requests for pardons, including the request from a soldier serving in Iraq to be pardoned for a conviction at age 13 involving a BB gun.

He left office with a 34% approval rating.


Wow.
 
2012-11-02 06:23:40 PM

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Romney was the first governor in modern Massachusetts history to deny every request for a pardon or commutation during his four years in office. He denied 100 requests for commutations and 172 requests for pardons, including the request from a soldier serving in Iraq to be pardoned for a conviction at age 13 involving a BB gun.

He left office with a 34% approval rating.

Wow.


I'm still wondering why Obama didn't hammer him on that.

"You had a 34% approval rating when you left office!! People have SEEN you govern before... and they don't like it!!!
 
2012-11-02 06:23:45 PM

NkThrasher: Via Infinito: NkThrasher: What's sad is that may be the best objective reason to vote for him. There might be slightly less sabotaging of the legislative process.

NO NEGOTIATING WITH TERRORISTS!

I'm actually quite serious. What else does he have as an objective argument for him?

It's the only basic concept that I've been wrestling with about his candidacy throughout the whole process. Bad government doing bad things but at least doing something vs dysfunctional government doing nothing.


I'm serious too. We can't let those bastards think that obstructionism works or they'll keep doing it. They need to be voted out of office, not the president.
 
2012-11-02 06:24:07 PM
On the other hand, if Romney is elected, the economy will still implode, but he and the rest of the GOP thieves will be able to pick and choose who will get away with the loot.

So, citizens, pick your poison:

1) Romney and an imploded economy with some selected people winning (hint: not you)
2) Obama and an obstructing congress that may choose the nuclear option to implode the economy, but could hurt random people
3) Obama AND a non-GOP congress and see a growing economy where everyone will win, but the 1%'ers won't be winning as quickly as they could with a banana republic style government of option 1.
 
2012-11-02 06:24:46 PM
He's using the Lord Humongous argument.

There has been too much violence. Too much pain. But I have an honorable compromise. Just walk away. Give me your pump, the oil, the gasoline, and the whole compound, and I'll spare your lives. Just walk away and we'll give you a safe passageway in the wastelands. Just walk away and there will be an end to the horror.

"Elect me, and I will spare you the wrath of my people", more or less. Yeah, that'll work.
 
2012-11-02 06:25:24 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: HeartBurnKid: A Dark Evil Omen: More to the point, it was white aristocrats fighting white aristocrats over who got to control a particular labor underclass. It was largely about slavery in the sense that the slaves were the resource being fought over.

Which is why, after the North won, blacks continued to be slaves. Amirite?

No, instead they were forced into the absolute bottom rung of capitalist society as wage slaves, often with worse quality of life than they "enjoyed" as slaves.


Oh, so you're one of the "slavery was a good thing for blacks" types.
 
2012-11-02 06:26:55 PM
So is there a reason why Romney isn't in Gitmo right now?
 
2012-11-02 06:27:09 PM

whistleridge:

Ok, I'll bite:

It actually wasn't about slavery. It was about rich white men throwing a colossal hissy fit over the idea that someone else could place any practical limits in their power, privilege, or self-indulgence. Slavery was just a nifty way to sucker poor racist idiots into doing their fighting for them.

Proof? If there had been no money in slavery, it would have ended. Stat.

/ yeah, I went there


You're right about that. In fact, if Eli Whitney hadn't created the cotton gin, making processing of cotton so much faster, slavery probably would have died out a lot sooner than it did (by way of the Emancipation Proclamation). It was too expensive to not only pick cotton, but also process it to be woven into cloth. But with the cotton gin, "King Cotton" made tons of money and slavery continued.

/the more you know.
 
2012-11-02 06:27:19 PM
If Obama's elected then the do nothing Congress will have failed to achieve its only goal
 
2012-11-02 06:27:33 PM

Via Infinito: NkThrasher: Via Infinito: NkThrasher: What's sad is that may be the best objective reason to vote for him. There might be slightly less sabotaging of the legislative process.

NO NEGOTIATING WITH TERRORISTS!

I'm actually quite serious. What else does he have as an objective argument for him?

It's the only basic concept that I've been wrestling with about his candidacy throughout the whole process. Bad government doing bad things but at least doing something vs dysfunctional government doing nothing.

I'm serious too. We can't let those bastards think that obstructionism works or they'll keep doing it. They need to be voted out of office, not the president.


I concur, but that doesn't change the interesting note that it is the most convincing argument that can be made for his candidacy from an objective standpoint.
 
2012-11-02 06:28:37 PM

dericwater: 3) Obama AND a non-GOP congress and see a growing economy where everyone will win, but the 1%'ers won't be winning as quickly as they could with a banana republic style government of option 1.


I'm old enough to remember when "banana republic" was in common parlance. Until 2010 I never thought that term could be applied to the US. You have made me sad. Sad because it's accurate.
 
2012-11-02 06:30:06 PM

NkThrasher: Bad government doing bad things but at least doing something vs dysfunctional government doing nothing.


I disagree. I'd rather stand in one place than move backwards.
 
2012-11-02 06:30:43 PM

Via Infinito: Zarquon's Flat Tire: Warlordtrooper: Fark them. If Obama is reelected he should do everything in his power to screw over the people who didn't vote for him. For 4 years he has tried to compromise when the other side stood there and acted like spoiled children throwing a tempertantrum. If Obama is re elected its time to make a point. They had the chance to compromise and they didn't, its time for red states to suffer.

As a Democrat who lives in Georgia, fark you.

As a Democrat who lives in Georgia, he's got a point. We should move to Cali and let the South freaking secede already.


I'm leaving next summer.
 
2012-11-02 06:31:21 PM

common sense is an oxymoron: Cletus C.: drewsclues: Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.

Oh so passing the republicans own health care law wasn't good enough? Get your head out of your ass.

That really isn't the spirit of cooperation I was envisioning.


Turtle Boy and the GOP have gone out of their way to avoid even the appearance of bipartisanship. Your argument is invalid.


My argument that bipartisanship is necessary or this country could get farked up even more? If you say so, captain.
 
2012-11-02 06:31:38 PM

jasimo: Zeno-25: jasimo: I wonder if the Senate will change the filibuster rules after the last four years?

Harry Reid promises filibuster reform if Dems win the election

Awesome. Thanks for the find.


The GOP will still control the House, even after Obama wins next week. Filibuster reform will be pointless.
 
2012-11-02 06:31:44 PM

a_bilge_monkey: dericwater: 3) Obama AND a non-GOP congress and see a growing economy where everyone will win, but the 1%'ers won't be winning as quickly as they could with a banana republic style government of option 1.

I'm old enough to remember when "banana republic" was in common parlance. Until 2010 I never thought that term could be applied to the US. You have made me sad. Sad because it's accurate.


I think we're more of a "cubical republic" since we don't export one thing that provides most of our wealth but other than that the political situation is strikingly similar to a banana republic.
 
2012-11-02 06:32:01 PM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: Via Infinito: Zarquon's Flat Tire: Warlordtrooper: Fark them. If Obama is reelected he should do everything in his power to screw over the people who didn't vote for him. For 4 years he has tried to compromise when the other side stood there and acted like spoiled children throwing a tempertantrum. If Obama is re elected its time to make a point. They had the chance to compromise and they didn't, its time for red states to suffer.

As a Democrat who lives in Georgia, fark you.

As a Democrat who lives in Georgia, he's got a point. We should move to Cali and let the South freaking secede already.

I'm leaving next summer.


Welcome. Enjoy the lovely beaches and lack of derp.

And if you ever feel homesick, just stop by Orange County, and that'll fix you right up.
 
2012-11-02 06:32:16 PM

Cletus C.: drewsclues: Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.

Oh so passing the republicans own health care law wasn't good enough? Get your head out of your ass.

That really isn't the spirit of cooperation I was envisioning.


Are we back to defining bi-partisanship as "Democrats doing everything Republicans?"
 
2012-11-02 06:32:34 PM
I got into an argument with a friend of a friend on facebook today. He was absolutely convinced that the Republicans fixed the recession, and it was the democrats that caused it.


After posting about a dozen things proving him completely wrong, he posted this as his closing argument:

"You can post all the graph's, reports, polls, surveys, and chart's in the world, but here's what I see daily. Less construction, less new homes, less new loans, higher fuel prices, higher grocery bills, higher heath care costs. Enjoy the cool aid. Your media is full of crap."


... I literally have no idea how to debate someone who admits that he has no interest in facts.
 
2012-11-02 06:32:41 PM
theintelhub.com

worldpoliticsblog.files.wordpress.com

www.brandchannel.com

www.abc.net.au

Vote Republican. Because all these things were just BAD LUCK.
 
2012-11-02 06:32:44 PM

Grungehamster: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

I'm just gonna leave this here...

First, as to your remarks in Jamaica concerning the possible realignment of the Republican and Democratic parties into "conservative" and "liberal" parties. Whatever the circumstances of the statement, you have indicated that you believe that might be "a happy thing." I disagree.

We need only look at the experience of some ideologically oriented parties in Europe to realize that chaos can result. Dogmatic ideological parties tend to splinter the political and social fabric of a nation, lead to governmental crises and deadlock, and stymie the compromises so often necessary to preserve freedom and achieve progress. A broad based two party structure produces a degree of political stability and viability not otherwise attainable."
- George Romney, in a letter to Barry Goldwater, December 21, 1964


it's a shame he didn't learn more from his dad.
 
2012-11-02 06:32:47 PM

quizzical: Cletus C.: drewsclues: Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.

Oh so passing the republicans own health care law wasn't good enough? Get your head out of your ass.

That really isn't the spirit of cooperation I was envisioning.

Are we back to defining bi-partisanship as "Democrats doing everything Republicans?"


No.
 
2012-11-02 06:33:00 PM

quizzical: Cletus C.: drewsclues: Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.

Oh so passing the republicans own health care law wasn't good enough? Get your head out of your ass.

That really isn't the spirit of cooperation I was envisioning.

Are we back to defining bi-partisanship as "Democrats doing everything Republicans?"


...want. Everything Republicans want.

/TGIF, everybody.
 
2012-11-02 06:33:02 PM

quizzical: Are we back to defining bi-partisanship as "Democrats doing everything Republicans?"


We never left it.
 
2012-11-02 06:33:34 PM

Cletus C.: drewsclues: Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.

Oh so passing the republicans own health care law wasn't good enough? Get your head out of your ass.

That really isn't the spirit of cooperation I was envisioning.


Funny how you talk about bipartisanship and cooperation, but only mention Obama needing to make some effort.

Because Republicans have already been making such efforts at bipartisan cooperation, right? All those filibusters are just their way of saying, "we want to make this relationship work!"
 
2012-11-02 06:35:21 PM

eddiesocket: jasimo: Zeno-25: jasimo: I wonder if the Senate will change the filibuster rules after the last four years?

Harry Reid promises filibuster reform if Dems win the election

Awesome. Thanks for the find.

The GOP will still control the House, even after Obama wins next week. Filibuster reform will be pointless.


Unless I'm mistaken, the Senate approves appointments and whatnot. A filibuster reform will allow the Senate, with a simple majority, to approve appointments.
/Could be wrong
//Probably other benefits, too
 
2012-11-02 06:39:35 PM
The scary thing is this exact statement is something I've seen in a number of Romney endorsements by newspapers.

"Obama tried bipartisanship. In the first year of his term numerous bills were modified to address Republican concerns in the name of bipartisanship. Then the Republicans didn't give any of said bills a single vote and crowed that he ignored them anyway, despite bills being heavily modified in their direction. Since then, they have blocked practically everything, insisting that unless they get 100% their way, then they'd rather it be no way.

If Romney is elected, at least Republicans in the House will pass legislation. It's not fair to President Obama to endorse his opponent because the opponent's party will not work with him on anything, but what can you do."

I've seen it in numerous endorsements. Instead of calling out the Republicans on Mitch mcConnell's FIRST pledge of his highest priority not being the nation and its recovery, but to destroy the President, you have newspapers admitting said strategy was successful, so REWARD THAT PARTY. 

Sickening.
 
2012-11-02 06:39:53 PM

Communist_Manifesto: I think we're more of a "cubical republic" since we don't export one thing that provides most of our wealth but other than that the political situation is strikingly similar to a banana republic.


Plutocracy by any other name.
 
2012-11-02 06:40:46 PM

sno man: Grungehamster: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

I'm just gonna leave this here...

First, as to your remarks in Jamaica concerning the possible realignment of the Republican and Democratic parties into "conservative" and "liberal" parties. Whatever the circumstances of the statement, you have indicated that you believe that might be "a happy thing." I disagree.

We need only look at the experience of some ideologically oriented parties in Europe to realize that chaos can result. Dogmatic ideological parties tend to splinter the political and social fabric of a nation, lead to governmental crises and deadlock, and stymie the compromises so often necessary to preserve freedom and achieve progress. A broad based two party structure produces a degree of political stability and viability not otherwise attainable."
- George Romney, in a letter to Barry Goldwater, December 21, 1964

it's a shame he didn't learn more from his dad.


It is pretty obvious he hated his dad.
 
2012-11-02 06:41:50 PM

Jim_Callahan: ... the people going on about how "red states should suffer" realize that basically every state is split within spitting distance of 50/50 in basically every election, right? We've been one nation and not a loose confederacy of independent states since the 1780s, and regional cultural and economic differences really aren't that big compared to most of the rest of the world.


this

however soviet style purges of the house would Get Shiat Done
 
2012-11-02 06:42:04 PM

MisterRonbo: Cletus C.: drewsclues: Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.

Oh so passing the republicans own health care law wasn't good enough? Get your head out of your ass.

That really isn't the spirit of cooperation I was envisioning.

Funny how you talk about bipartisanship and cooperation, but only mention Obama needing to make some effort.

Because Republicans have already been making such efforts at bipartisan cooperation, right? All those filibusters are just their way of saying, "we want to make this relationship work!"


I was referring to my hope that a second term for Obama would bring with it his willingness to work with Republicans in Congress for the good of the country. Be a leader. Turn down the rhetoric. Of course the GOP would need to work with him, as well.
 
2012-11-02 06:44:06 PM
LINCOLN WAS WRONG!

LET THE SOUTH GO ALREADY!

I LOVE LAMP
 
2012-11-02 06:46:58 PM

jasimo: I wonder if the Senate will change the filibuster rules after the last four years?


Is a simple majority enough to do that?
 
2012-11-02 06:47:49 PM

Cletus C.:

I was referring to my hope that a second term for Obama would bring with it his willingness to work with Republicans in Congress for the good of the country. Be a leader. Turn down the rhetoric. Of course the GOP would need to work with him, as well.


Like a debt ceiling deal that John Boehner said was "90% of everything I wanted"?

Like the debt reduction deal offered in April of 2011 that was $3 in spending cuts for every $1 in new revenue?

Like rolling back the Bush tax cuts on 98% of Americans, instead of 100%?

You mean like proposing a cap and trade scheme that Republicans were in love with as recently as 2008?

You mean like proposing health care reform based on a design by the Heritage Foundation and implemented by a Republican governor?

I hope Obama offers to meet them halfway. Instead of the three-quarters to nine-tenths range he's been operating in so far.
 
2012-11-02 06:49:31 PM
At least he's telling the truth for once
 
2012-11-02 06:49:41 PM
Treason.
 
2012-11-02 06:51:31 PM

Elandriel: I wonder what "I don't have to worry about re-election" Obama is going to be like. Will he take a hard stance against these assholes, knowing they can't force him out? Will he use the bully pulpit? It would be a matter of remarkable ease to expose them after the election, peel back the layers hiding the truth of the matter -- that the GOP is intentionally hindering the economic recovery for political reasons.

But, he's pretty much a centrist, so that might be asking a bit much...


He has the ability to be firm and demanding when he wants to be. I'm hoping that he'll return to that form and just have primetime speech after speech where he calmly explains why the Republicans are a bunch of complete farkwits on the latest issue.
 
2012-11-02 06:53:29 PM
I just have to laugh that he's painting it like Obama has done everything to oppose the Republicans, when it was the GOP that met before his inauguration, and agreed to be as obstructionist and uncooperative as possible.
 
2012-11-02 06:53:38 PM
I would really love it if the GOPs intransigence during Obama's first term ends up creating the liberal boogeyman they kept portraying him as. He knows they won't work with him on anything, and he doesn't need to care about reelection. Day one he should walk into the Oval Office and throw down a stack of legislation that legalizes gay marriage, bans all handguns, and opens up government sponsored abortion factories. Turn the GOP's Overton window against them.

Want to make Obamacare a little better? Propose single-payer.
Want to enact some environmental legislation? Propose banning all fossil fuels.
 
2012-11-02 06:54:06 PM
I'll blame my congressman. Patrick McHenry called Elizabeth Warren a liar. Sooo...Stone Him. Can't vote him out, they gerrymandered his district to gut the libs from Asheville
 
2012-11-02 06:55:03 PM

MithrandirBooga: I got into an argument with a friend of a friend on facebook today. He was absolutely convinced that the Republicans fixed the recession, and it was the democrats that caused it.


After posting about a dozen things proving him completely wrong, he posted this as his closing argument:

"You can post all the graph's, reports, polls, surveys, and chart's in the world, but here's what I see daily. Less construction, less new homes, less new loans, higher fuel prices, higher grocery bills, higher heath care costs. Enjoy the cool aid. Your media is full of crap."


... I literally have no idea how to debate someone who admits that he has no interest in facts.



Circumstantial ad hominem mixed with observation bias? He might as well said "it's sunny and clear skies here so obviously this hurricane nonsense is just a joke."
 
2012-11-02 06:55:40 PM

Cletus C.: MisterRonbo: Cletus C.: drewsclues: Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.

Oh so passing the republicans own health care law wasn't good enough? Get your head out of your ass.

That really isn't the spirit of cooperation I was envisioning.

Funny how you talk about bipartisanship and cooperation, but only mention Obama needing to make some effort.

Because Republicans have already been making such efforts at bipartisan cooperation, right? All those filibusters are just their way of saying, "we want to make this relationship work!"

I was referring to my hope that a second term for Obama would bring with it his willingness to work with Republicans in Congress for the good of the country. Be a leader. Turn down the rhetoric. Of course the GOP would need to work with him, as well.


He has always done that. Hell, he has always given the Republicans everything they want, just to keep the ball rolling. He's the Great Capitulator. Obama has never played hardball or used partisan rhetoric to get his way.

So what you're suggesting is that he hasn't capitulated to the GOP enough?

Open your damn eyes. Either that, or just admit you're a GOP shill.
 
2012-11-02 07:02:29 PM

RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?


Mitch McConnell.
 
2012-11-02 07:04:18 PM
You mean the party of NO still has NO ideas???

Quelle Surprise!
 
2012-11-02 07:04:20 PM

AirForceVet: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Vote the GOP out of Congress into orbit. It's the only way to be sure.


They've said they want to put people on Mars by like 2030.....why not just start a bit early...and if the missions go badly there is no real loss.
 
2012-11-02 07:07:00 PM

Cletus C.: common sense is an oxymoron: Cletus C.: drewsclues: Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.

Oh so passing the republicans own health care law wasn't good enough? Get your head out of your ass.

That really isn't the spirit of cooperation I was envisioning.


Turtle Boy and the GOP have gone out of their way to avoid even the appearance of bipartisanship. Your argument is invalid.

My argument that bipartisanship is necessary or this country could get farked up even more? If you say so, captain.



Your plea for bipartisanship on Obama's part in light of the GOP's actions over the past four years is hypocritical at best.
 
2012-11-02 07:07:58 PM

MithrandirBooga: I got into an argument with a friend of a friend on facebook today. He was absolutely convinced that the Republicans fixed the recession, and it was the democrats that caused it.


After posting about a dozen things proving him completely wrong, he posted this as his closing argument:

"You can post all the graph's, reports, polls, surveys, and chart's in the world, but here's what I see daily. Less construction, less new homes, less new loans, higher fuel prices, higher grocery bills, higher heath care costs. Enjoy the cool aid. Your media is full of crap."


... I literally have no idea how to debate someone who admits that he has no interest in facts.


I completely agree. How does one argue against people who just do not see the same set of facts? It's one thing to debate what the facts indicate. It's another to completely deny the facts as presented.
 
2012-11-02 07:08:38 PM

Aar1012: I'm going to Romney's last rally up here on Monday. I'm hopingnthatbhe just tells America that he's played them hook, line, and sinker or that he unveils the GOP economic doomsday machine.

/The point of the doomsday machine is lost....if you keep it a secret!
//Why didnt you tell the world, eh!?


Some men just want to watch the world divest.
 
2012-11-02 07:09:14 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The United States does not negotiate with terrorists.


In one.
 
2012-11-02 07:09:15 PM

dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?


I feel like there's a word, it means what you're saying... Filibuster?
 
2012-11-02 07:10:24 PM

Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.


Yes, it's Obama not being bipartisan. The guy who passed a healthcare bill that was practically a carbon copy of Romneycare instead of the public option he wanted. The guy who agreed to water-down a desperately-needed stimulus with tax cuts.

Not the people who caused the United States' credit rating to get downgraded because they didn't get 100% of what they wanted. Not the people who have wasted the last two years with social conservative BS and trying to repeal the ACA out of spite, while filibustering or otherwise blocking any sorts of jobs bill. Not the people who are ready to farking crucify Chris Christie because he dared to say that Obama didn't fark up Sandy, despite the party desperately wanting more people to die so Obama would have his Katrina.

If anything, Obama should've been MORE partisan. He's good at getting rid of foreign terrorists, but he compromises with the domestic terrorists far too often.
 
2012-11-02 07:11:54 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The United States does not negotiate with terrorists.


Ronald Reagan did.
 
2012-11-02 07:12:03 PM

dericwater: MithrandirBooga: I got into an argument with a friend of a friend on facebook today. He was absolutely convinced that the Republicans fixed the recession, and it was the democrats that caused it.


After posting about a dozen things proving him completely wrong, he posted this as his closing argument:

"You can post all the graph's, reports, polls, surveys, and chart's in the world, but here's what I see daily. Less construction, less new homes, less new loans, higher fuel prices, higher grocery bills, higher heath care costs. Enjoy the cool aid. Your media is full of crap."


... I literally have no idea how to debate someone who admits that he has no interest in facts.

I completely agree. How does one argue against people who just do not see the same set of facts? It's one thing to debate what the facts indicate. It's another to completely deny the facts as presented.


I'll be honest, this is a main reason why I don't talk about "issues" with my grandmother, aunt, mother-in-law, etc. I just don't know how to reply to people who willingly deny facts. I find it's easier to just avoid the whole thing. Yeah, it means we talk less overall and I know that's sad but in my mind, it's better than having the kind of conversation illustrated above....
 
2012-11-02 07:13:39 PM

Kimothy: When I read crap like this, I often wish the South would've been successful in their secession. Then we'd have the first world United States next to the failed experiment third world Confederate States. They'd probably be sick of their own shiat by now and attempting to make some progress. Instead, they are stuck trying to force on the rest of us their ass-backward theological, racial, and patriotic beliefs that achieve nothing but division, distress, and produce demagogues who pander to the fear of their under- and uneducated masses.

Seriously, do we still need these people in the 21st century?


I like to think that in a perfect world the loser of the Civil War had to keep the south, but in practice it would probably be more like China on our doorstep: a backward, repressive, totalitarian regime reliant on cheap labor providing shoddy products to our own underclass. Oh, and it's Border Problem would be its own people fleeing to the south for better living conditions and a more democratic government.

But even in real history, the South has always demanded -- and gotten -- disproportionate influence in the running of the US, from the very first constitutional congress. It's like the South is the hot but crazy girlfriend who makes insane demands and wants them RIGHT NOW and the North is the smart but schlubbish boyfriend who always gives in, partly because he's terrified of what crazy thing she might do next otherwise, and partly because she gives the best hummers he's ever had, and frankly he's not sure he'll ever get laid again in his life if he breaks up with her.

...OK, that metaphor may have gotten away from me towards the end, there.
 
2012-11-02 07:13:51 PM

common sense is an oxymoron: Your plea for bipartisanship on Obama's part in light of the GOP's actions over the past four years is hypocritical at best.


Not really. There's nothing wrong with being a partisan as long as you're not doing anything horrible unethical. Unfortunately for the GOP, all the have is being horribly unethical.
 
2012-11-02 07:13:58 PM
Do not threaten us, little man... If you awake the sleeping giant, we will crush you.
 
2012-11-02 07:14:25 PM

Elandriel: I wonder what "I don't have to worry about re-election" Obama is going to be like. Will he take a hard stance against these assholes, knowing they can't force him out? Will he use the bully pulpit? It would be a matter of remarkable ease to expose them after the election, peel back the layers hiding the truth of the matter -- that the GOP is intentionally hindering the economic recovery for political reasons.

But, he's pretty much a centrist, so that might be asking a bit much...


Cue the YouTube video of GW saying "This election has given me political *capital* and I intend to *spend* it"

\too lazy to look for it
 
2012-11-02 07:16:47 PM
It's the same twisted logic that the newspapers who endorsed him used. Why wouldn't he run with it?
 
2012-11-02 07:17:16 PM

czetie: But even in real history, the South has always demanded -- and gotten -- disproportionate influence in the running of the US, from the very first constitutional congress. It's like the South is the hot but crazy girlfriend who makes insane demands and wants them RIGHT NOW and the North is the smart but schlubbish boyfriend who always gives in, partly because he's terrified of what crazy thing she might do next otherwise, and partly because she gives the best hummers he's ever had, and frankly he's not sure he'll ever get laid again in his life if he breaks up with her.

...OK, that metaphor may have gotten away from me towards the end, there.


Which is really silly, given that there's an attractive stoner chick with universal health care right next door who's been flirting with the US for the past oh 200 so years.
 
2012-11-02 07:17:34 PM

Grungehamster: First, as to your remarks in Jamaica concerning the possible realignment of the Republican and Democratic parties into "conservative" and "liberal" parties. Whatever the circumstances of the statement, you have indicated that you believe that might be "a happy thing." I disagree.

We need only look at the experience of some ideologically oriented parties in Europe to realize that chaos can result. Dogmatic ideological parties tend to splinter the political and social fabric of a nation, lead to governmental crises and deadlock, and stymie the compromises so often necessary to preserve freedom and achieve progress. A broad based two party structure produces a degree of political stability and viability not otherwise attainable."
- George Romney, in a letter to Barry Goldwater, December 21, 1964


Wow. Where did he go wrong with that boy?
 
2012-11-02 07:18:49 PM

MrBallou: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

Maybe I'm begin hopelessly naive again, but it occurs to me that, if the reason the GOP House wanted to trash the economy to make Obama look bad was so he wouldn't be reelected, then, in his second term, they will not have that reason, since he can't run again anyway.

Instead, individual congressmen will be needing to make themselves look better for their own reelection bids starting in 2014. They'll also want to make the GOP look better in general to give the eventual Presidential nominee a better starting position.

What would be the incentive to keep being asshats, if they no longer need to destroy Obama?


There would be none. A re-elected Obama will have every incentive to be even more of an asshat to Congress than he has been. His sole purpose would be to destroy Republicans.
 
2012-11-02 07:19:02 PM

MrBallou: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

Maybe I'm begin hopelessly naive again, but it occurs to me that, if the reason the GOP House wanted to trash the economy to make Obama look bad was so he wouldn't be reelected, then, in his second term, they will not have that reason, since he can't run again anyway.

Instead, individual congressmen will be needing to make themselves look better for their own reelection bids starting in 2014. They'll also want to make the GOP look better in general to give the eventual Presidential nominee a better starting position.

What would be the incentive to keep being asshats, if they no longer need to destroy Obama?


hillaryis45.com
 
2012-11-02 07:22:12 PM

drewsclues: Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.

Oh so passing the republicans own health care law wasn't good enough? Get your head out of your ass.


What was the John B. quote, "We got 90% of what we wanted"
I seriously hope you are not saying that he has not made any effort so far.
 
2012-11-02 07:22:31 PM
This is like companies trying to tell their workers how to vote, or they'll get laid off.
I don't know how other people respond to threats, but if they are like me, these are not good strategies.
 
2012-11-02 07:22:41 PM

Cataholic: MrBallou: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

Maybe I'm begin hopelessly naive again, but it occurs to me that, if the reason the GOP House wanted to trash the economy to make Obama look bad was so he wouldn't be reelected, then, in his second term, they will not have that reason, since he can't run again anyway.

Instead, individual congressmen will be needing to make themselves look better for their own reelection bids starting in 2014. They'll also want to make the GOP look better in general to give the eventual Presidential nominee a better starting position.

What would be the incentive to keep being asshats, if they no longer need to destroy Obama?

There would be none. A re-elected Obama will have every incentive to be even more of an asshat to Congress than he has been. His sole purpose would be to destroy Republicans.


LOLWUT

[citation needed]
 
2012-11-02 07:24:32 PM
i870.photobucket.com

/Forgive me, Rich
 
2012-11-02 07:24:53 PM

Kuroshin: Cletus C.: MisterRonbo: Cletus C.: drewsclues: Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.

Oh so passing the republicans own health care law wasn't good enough? Get your head out of your ass.

That really isn't the spirit of cooperation I was envisioning.

Funny how you talk about bipartisanship and cooperation, but only mention Obama needing to make some effort.

Because Republicans have already been making such efforts at bipartisan cooperation, right? All those filibusters are just their way of saying, "we want to make this relationship work!"

I was referring to my hope that a second term for Obama would bring with it his willingness to work with Republicans in Congress for the good of the country. Be a leader. Turn down the rhetoric. Of course the GOP would need to work with him, as well.

He has always done that. Hell, he has always given the Republicans everything they want, just to keep the ball rolling. He's the Great Capitulator. Obama has never played hardball or used partisan rhetoric to get his way.

So what you're suggesting is that he hasn't capitulated to the GOP enough?

Open your damn eyes. Either that, or just admit you're a GOP shill.


That is laughable. It needs to stop from both sides, I'm saying.
 
2012-11-02 07:25:35 PM

me_onthenet: [i870.photobucket.com image 310x214]

/Forgive me, Rich


"Lord Xykon?"

"I don't have lungs."

Bastard needs to unbreak his hand.
 
2012-11-02 07:26:27 PM

LordJiro: Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.

Yes, it's Obama not being bipartisan. The guy who passed a healthcare bill that was practically a carbon copy of Romneycare instead of the public option he wanted. The guy who agreed to water-down a desperately-needed stimulus with tax cuts.

Not the people who caused the United States' credit rating to get downgraded because they didn't get 100% of what they wanted. Not the people who have wasted the last two years with social conservative BS and trying to repeal the ACA out of spite, while filibustering or otherwise blocking any sorts of jobs bill. Not the people who are ready to farking crucify Chris Christie because he dared to say that Obama didn't fark up Sandy, despite the party desperately wanting more people to die so Obama would have his Katrina.

If anything, Obama should've been MORE partisan. He's good at getting rid of foreign terrorists, but he compromises with the domestic terrorists far too often.


I nominate you for NOT the mediator in this dispute.
 
2012-11-02 07:26:56 PM
Romney, you cock.
 
2012-11-02 07:27:31 PM
"You know that if the President is re-elected, he will still be unable to work with the people in Congress," Romney said. "He has ignored them, attacked them, blamed them. The debt ceiling will come up again, and shutdown and default will be threatened, chilling the economy."

Sounds like republicans are bullies with a persecution complex.
 
2012-11-02 07:28:11 PM

Weigard: Via Infinito: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: abb3w: The Third Man: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

Richard Mourdock?

Allen West?

Ted Poe?

Darrell Issa?

Mike Turzai?

Chief?


McCloud?
 
2012-11-02 07:30:50 PM

Tigger: (Not an advocation of violence obv.)


But I am.

Get the guillotine.
 
2012-11-02 07:32:27 PM
Go fark yourself Mitt Romney.
 
2012-11-02 07:33:12 PM
Stages of GOP desperation:

To capture the desperation you have to take in all the stages:

1) lack of gloating or even veiled confidence (oddly polite comments like "it ain't over until it's over")
2) quietness (where are the usual suspects)
3) feigned indifference (It doesn't matter because of XYZ)
4) the crazy/hate/fear (conspiracy theories, racism and funny/insane twists in logic)
5) being a victim (expressing that a great wrong is happening)
6) clinging to a wildcard (some last minute development will save them)
7) false bravado (leaving the country, going off the grid, threatening revolution)
8) making lemonade with sour grapes (e.g., pretending they can take economic advantage of the country's fall into the abyss or "'I'm going to enjoy watching you Liberals XYZ").
9) looking to the future (2014)
10) ongoing bitter butthurt and lack of acceptance (see 2008-2012)

I would put this latest move around for with a focus on fear (Romney's in this case)
 
2012-11-02 07:33:45 PM
Holy shiat, he really said that.

MrBallou: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

Maybe I'm begin hopelessly naive again, but it occurs to me that, if the reason the GOP House wanted to trash the economy to make Obama look bad was so he wouldn't be reelected, then, in his second term, they will not have that reason, since he can't run again anyway.

Instead, individual congressmen will be needing to make themselves look better for their own reelection bids starting in 2014. They'll also want to make the GOP look better in general to give the eventual Presidential nominee a better starting position.

What would be the incentive to keep being asshats, if they no longer need to destroy Obama?


Unfortunately, in his second term, Obama will probably continue to be a black man.
 
2012-11-02 07:33:47 PM

me_onthenet: [i870.photobucket.com image 310x214]

/Forgive me, Rich


I'd put the GOP more at the "Linear Guild" level of Evilness myself...
 
2012-11-02 07:37:15 PM
This is s get-out-the-vote speech for the true believers. It isn't intended to sway anyone. That's why it sounds so insane to a regular person.
 
2012-11-02 07:37:17 PM
Go for it, GOP idjitards.

I look forward to the Republican Party being tossed on the trash heap of history's failed political factions.
 
2012-11-02 07:40:05 PM

Forbidden Doughnut: me_onthenet: [i870.photobucket.com image 310x214]

/Forgive me, Rich

I'd put the GOP more at the "Linear Guild" level of Evilness myself...


They're more Belkar than anything. Technically on our side but so stupidly angry that they end up wasting about half of the strip farking around. Don't ever associate GOP with Tarquin again.
 
2012-11-02 07:40:38 PM
Has anyone mentioned that today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced?
 
2012-11-02 07:42:34 PM
This is f*cking hilarious. The right-wing has been great at disseminating the talking point of "Obama hasn't compromised enough and it's his hubris that caused our credit rating to be downgraded". You can't negotiate with ideological purists when the central core of their faith of "tax cuts for the rich create jobs".
 
2012-11-02 07:42:44 PM

TheOther: [fireden.net image 348x355]


Buh bye!
 
2012-11-02 07:43:28 PM
So, nice little country you have here . . . it'd be too bad if something was to happen to it. I'll tell ya what. Vote for me, and my little friends out there will take extra good care of ya.
 
2012-11-02 07:44:53 PM

Evil High Priest: Has anyone mentioned that today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced?


That's untrue. From a risk management point of view, the greatest threat we've ever faced was the Manhattan Project, which at the time was thought to have a decent, but small, chance of incinerating the entire atmosphere in the first test.
 
2012-11-02 07:46:14 PM

Cataholic: There would be none. A re-elected Obama will have every incentive to be even more of an asshat to Congress than he has been. His sole purpose would be to destroy Republicans.


But you know what?
Lyndon Johnson would have served John Boner's nuts at a White House democratic working breakfast by now. Obama? Not so much.
 
2012-11-02 07:47:16 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.


To be fair, the constant possibility of imminent nuclear annihilation was pretty bad. And the Civil War was pretty much an existential threat. So no.

///Not GOP, just don't like rhetorical exaggeration
//what they REALLY are is bad enough
 
2012-11-02 07:48:54 PM

PonceAlyosha: czetie: But even in real history, the South has always demanded -- and gotten -- disproportionate influence in the running of the US, from the very first constitutional congress. It's like the South is the hot but crazy girlfriend who makes insane demands and wants them RIGHT NOW and the North is the smart but schlubbish boyfriend who always gives in, partly because he's terrified of what crazy thing she might do next otherwise, and partly because she gives the best hummers he's ever had, and frankly he's not sure he'll ever get laid again in his life if he breaks up with her.

...OK, that metaphor may have gotten away from me towards the end, there.

Which is really silly, given that there's an attractive stoner chick with universal health care right next door who's been flirting with the US for the past oh 200 so years.


The strange thing is that we schlubbs never want the stoner chick who would be really good for us while still being way hotter than we deserve. We ignore her and chase the crazy chick. I don't know, maybe we think we're the one that can save her.

Uh, those schlubbs. Good for them. Goddammitsomuch.
 
2012-11-02 07:49:50 PM

PonceAlyosha: Evil High Priest: Has anyone mentioned that today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced?

That's untrue. From a risk management point of view, the greatest threat we've ever faced was the Manhattan Project, which at the time was thought to have a decent, but small, chance of incinerating the entire atmosphere in the first test.


At least they wouldn't have had to apologize afterwards.
 
2012-11-02 07:50:07 PM

that bosnian sniper: I'd suggest building a rocket and launching GOP Congressmen into the Sun, but they'd just figure out a way to obstruct it, blanket the Earth in darkness, and blame Obama for it.


Either that or the Sun would radiate derp for the next 4.5 billion years.
 
2012-11-02 07:50:20 PM

czetie: Uh, those schlubbs. Good for them. Goddammitsomuch.


As a gay man, I enjoy being the stoner dude whom everyone eventually settles on, at least for a time.
 
2012-11-02 07:59:53 PM

PonceAlyosha: czetie: Uh, those schlubbs. Good for them. Goddammitsomuch.

As a gay man, I enjoy being the stoner dude whom everyone eventually settles on, at least for a time.


I can't decide if that's sad or hot.
 
2012-11-02 08:01:46 PM

dericwater: MithrandirBooga: I got into an argument with a friend of a friend on facebook today. He was absolutely convinced that the Republicans fixed the recession, and it was the democrats that caused it.


After posting about a dozen things proving him completely wrong, he posted this as his closing argument:

"You can post all the graph's, reports, polls, surveys, and chart's in the world, but here's what I see daily. Less construction, less new homes, less new loans, higher fuel prices, higher grocery bills, higher heath care costs. Enjoy the cool aid. Your media is full of crap."

... I literally have no idea how to debate someone who admits that he has no interest in facts.

I completely agree. How does one argue against people who just do not see the same set of facts? It's one thing to debate what the facts indicate. It's another to completely deny the facts as presented.


I had a similar argument on FB with someone I went to high school with after last month's jobs numbers came out. He repeated the debunked claim that unemployment only dropped because people gave up looking for work. I pointed out the difference between the U4 and U6 numbers and he said "That proves nothing. I'm living it." I replied that it proved that he didn't know how to read the report. His final response: "You proved that my time is too valuable to deal with your lack of desire to seek real Truth."

Note that's the capital "T" truth.
 
2012-11-02 08:04:13 PM
As Republicans realize we will NOT be returning to a nostalgic version of our history that never actually existed except in the fevered dreams of some old, impotent white guys, the 7 stages of grief are becoming apparent.

First there was shock and denial. "Where's the birth certificate?"

Second the pain and guilt. "We are being punished for gay illegal alien abortions"

Now the anger and bargaining begins. "Unless we change course, we may well be looking at another recession"

Fourth, after the election depression will rear its ugly head.

Fifth, they will eventually come to terms with reality.

Sixth, they will try to get back in the game and become relevant again.

Seventh, Acceptance and Hope, they will realize that Universal Healthcare is NOT the worst thing that can happen to a country.

I would counsel patience for our fellow Americans as they work through their issues.

The rest of us will be getting on with our lives.
 
2012-11-02 08:06:07 PM
How do I feel about the teabagger House?

To the last, I grapple with thee;

From Hell's heart, I stab at thee;

For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee

/reward those clowns behavior with a vote? riiiiight
//I'd rather hump splintered balsa wood
 
2012-11-02 08:06:35 PM
Better leader than Romney:

i2.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-02 08:06:39 PM

DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.




This is what Liberals actually believe!!



/Yeah, we do.
 
2012-11-02 08:10:01 PM

Galileo's Daughter: Weigard: Via Infinito: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: abb3w: The Third Man: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

Richard Mourdock?

Allen West?

Ted Poe?

Darrell Issa?

Mike Turzai?

Chief?

McCloud?


Paul Ryan?
 
2012-11-02 08:12:49 PM

mrshowrules: Stages of GOP desperation:

To capture the desperation you have to take in all the stages:

1) lack of gloating or even veiled confidence (oddly polite comments like "it ain't over until it's over")
2) quietness (where are the usual suspects)
3) feigned indifference (It doesn't matter because of XYZ)
4) the crazy/hate/fear (conspiracy theories, racism and funny/insane twists in logic)
5) being a victim (expressing that a great wrong is happening)
6) clinging to a wildcard (some last minute development will save them)
7) false bravado (leaving the country, going off the grid, threatening revolution)
8) making lemonade with sour grapes (e.g., pretending they can take economic advantage of the country's fall into the abyss or "'I'm going to enjoy watching you Liberals XYZ").
9) looking to the future (2014)
10) ongoing bitter butthurt and lack of acceptance (see 2008-2012)

I would put this latest move around for with a focus on fear (Romney's in this case)


And I'll be sure to be carrying a copy of this post in my pocket on election day as I cast my "anti-vote" for no other purpose than the pleasure derived knowing that the author of this post's vote will be rendered null and void.
 
2012-11-02 08:15:31 PM

clowncar on fire: And I'll be sure to be carrying a copy of this post in my pocket on election day as I cast my "anti-vote" for no other purpose than the pleasure derived knowing that the author of this post's vote will be rendered null and void.


You jumped straight to number eight: 8) making lemonade with sour grapes (e.g., pretending they can take economic advantage of the country's fall into the abyss or "'I'm going to enjoy watching you Liberals XYZ").
 
2012-11-02 08:16:43 PM

czetie: Kimothy: When I read crap like this, I often wish the South would've been successful in their secession. Then we'd have the first world United States next to the failed experiment third world Confederate States. They'd probably be sick of their own shiat by now and attempting to make some progress. Instead, they are stuck trying to force on the rest of us their ass-backward theological, racial, and patriotic beliefs that achieve nothing but division, distress, and produce demagogues who pander to the fear of their under- and uneducated masses.

Seriously, do we still need these people in the 21st century?

I like to think that in a perfect world the loser of the Civil War had to keep the south, but in practice it would probably be more like China on our doorstep: a backward, repressive, totalitarian regime reliant on cheap labor providing shoddy products to our own underclass. Oh, and it's Border Problem would be its own people fleeing to the south for better living conditions and a more democratic government.

But even in real history, the South has always demanded -- and gotten -- disproportionate influence in the running of the US, from the very first constitutional congress. It's like the South is the hot but crazy girlfriend who makes insane demands and wants them RIGHT NOW and the North is the smart but schlubbish boyfriend who always gives in, partly because he's terrified of what crazy thing she might do next otherwise, and partly because she gives the best hummers he's ever had, and frankly he's not sure he'll ever get laid again in his life if he breaks up with her.

...OK, that metaphor may have gotten away from me towards the end, there.


Everybody, sing it loud!

"Nothing could be finer than to be in Carolina in the morrrrrrrrninngg..."
 
2012-11-02 08:20:39 PM

zenobia: Galileo's Daughter: Weigard: Via Infinito: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: abb3w: The Third Man: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

Richard Mourdock?

Allen West?

Ted Poe?

Darrell Issa?

Mike Turzai?

Chief?

McCloud?

Paul Ryan?


Dr. Scott!
 
2012-11-02 08:20:58 PM

jasimo: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: abb3w: The Third Man: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

Richard Mourdock?

Allen West?

Ted Poe?

Darrell Issa?

Let me just hand that list to my buddy, Jack. He's a repairman.


I'm pretty sure they're with The Otherness, so Jack's already on the job.
 
2012-11-02 08:21:08 PM
Lies Lies Lies, Rom-ney!

*ahem*

Are you farking kidding me, you asshat? Obama has been the partisan one not willing to compromise with the other side? ARE YOU farkING KIDDING ME?? *deep breaths*

Let's face it, no matter who wins we are in danger of another recession thanks to Congress and especially the House Republicans... if the economy crashes again it'll be blood on their hands and everyone who put them in office.
 
2012-11-02 08:22:50 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: clowncar on fire: And I'll be sure to be carrying a copy of this post in my pocket on election day as I cast my "anti-vote" for no other purpose than the pleasure derived knowing that the author of this post's vote will be rendered null and void.

You jumped straight to number eight: 8) making lemonade with sour grapes (e.g., pretending they can take economic advantage of the country's fall into the abyss or "'I'm going to enjoy watching you Liberals XYZ").


Nope. I just null and voided the vote of an asshat poster. Either they'll go all ballistic stupid and start frothing about republican derp gus teabaggery etc, or they will carefully think things out carefully before post inflamatory crap that has real consequences to themself.

Either way- i stand as judge, jury, and executioner.

Hopefully their vote has more meaning to them on the next go-round in four years.
 
2012-11-02 08:23:57 PM

sno man: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Sounds like he's suggesting that people vote the Democrats back into power in congress.

That how I'd call that. Kick those guys out of that House of yours and don't let them back in until they learn how to play well with others.
What an ass... Vote for me or my boys are going to take a baseball bat to the knees of the (world) economy. Wow.


What I find amazing is that Mitt has the nerve to threaten people if they don't vote for him. Doesn't that just suck? This reeks of the kid we all knew who would say, "I get to be team captain or I am taking my ball and going him." And not to mention that it reeks of desperation. I don't appreciate trying to hold my vote hostage like that. Screw you Mitt.
 
2012-11-02 08:24:16 PM

Elandriel: I wonder what "I don't have to worry about re-election" Obama is going to be like. Will he take a hard stance against these assholes, knowing they can't force him out? Will he use the bully pulpit? It would be a matter of remarkable ease to expose them after the election, peel back the layers hiding the truth of the matter -- that the GOP is intentionally hindering the economic recovery for political reasons.

But, he's pretty much a centrist, so that might be asking a bit much...


I fantasize about this Reid coming out on the Senate floor and cleaning Boehner's clock:

www.theboxinggem.com
 
2012-11-02 08:24:49 PM

clowncar on fire: Hopefully their vote has more meaning to them on the next go-round in four years.


Unless you live in the same state, your vote in no way cancels his out.
 
2012-11-02 08:25:13 PM
www.glaucoma-eye-info.com
Perhaps if we all pitched in to buy Mitch McConnell an upper row of teeth for his very own, he might be less of a d-bag in Washington.

/I doubt it, but one can hope.
 
2012-11-02 08:25:46 PM
Now I may be liberal as hell but I take Talking Point Memo with a grain of salt. They sometimes exaggerate and-

"You know that if the President is re-elected, he will still be unable to work with the people in Congress," Romney said. "He has ignored them, attacked them, blamed them. The debt ceiling will come up again, and shutdown and default will be threatened, chilling the economy."

...Okay, I want these people out and put on a pleasant canoe to a deserted island. With plenty of bitter coconut trees to live off of.
 
2012-11-02 08:27:00 PM

Heraclitus: As Republicans realize we will NOT be returning to a nostalgic version of our history that never actually existed except in the fevered dreams of some old, impotent white guys, the 7 stages of grief are becoming apparent.

First there was shock and denial. "Where's the birth certificate?"

Second the pain and guilt. "We are being punished for gay illegal alien abortions"

Now the anger and bargaining begins. "Unless we change course, we may well be looking at another recession"

Fourth, after the election depression will rear its ugly head.

Fifth, they will eventually come to terms with reality.

Sixth, they will try to get back in the game and become relevant again.

Seventh, Acceptance and Hope, they will realize that Universal Healthcare is NOT the worst thing that can happen to a country.

I would counsel patience for our fellow Americans as they work through their issues.

The rest of us will be getting on with our lives.


They're not going to work through the issues. For some of them, resentment is a career; for others it's a lifestyle. Either way they're stuck in it. But yeah, the rest of us to have to move on.
 
2012-11-02 08:27:49 PM

ghare: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The United States does not negotiate with terrorists.

Ronald Reagan did.


IOKIYAR
 
2012-11-02 08:29:12 PM

jasimo: I'm still wondering why Obama didn't hammer him on that.



You know -- coming down to the wire -- I'm wondering why Romney wasn't hammered on a lot of things.

In Florida here he and the superPACS around him are just blowing up the airwaves with lies. There are counter ads but they pale in comparison. Gov. Scott proved you can buy the state with media and that's exactly what Rmoney is doing.


/still would love to see the state go blue despite this
//not getting my hopes up though
///the stat's got a Fark tag, after all
 
2012-11-02 08:29:59 PM

Arachnophobe: zenobia: Galileo's Daughter: Weigard: Via Infinito: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: abb3w: The Third Man: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

Richard Mourdock?

Allen West?

Ted Poe?

Darrell Issa?

Mike Turzai?

Chief?

McCloud?

Paul Ryan?

Dr. Scott!


Janet!
 
2012-11-02 08:32:00 PM

Cataholic: MrBallou: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

Maybe I'm begin hopelessly naive again, but it occurs to me that, if the reason the GOP House wanted to trash the economy to make Obama look bad was so he wouldn't be reelected, then, in his second term, they will not have that reason, since he can't run again anyway.

Instead, individual congressmen will be needing to make themselves look better for their own reelection bids starting in 2014. They'll also want to make the GOP look better in general to give the eventual Presidential nominee a better starting position.

What would be the incentive to keep being asshats, if they no longer need to destroy Obama?

There would be none. A re-elected Obama will have every incentive to be even more of an asshat to Congress than he has been. His sole purpose would be to destroy Republicans.


And that's bad because?
 
x23
2012-11-02 08:34:20 PM

RedPhoenix122: AirForceVet: Vote the GOP out of Congress into orbit

Not without a space shuttle.



a space shuttle is able to return to earth. we don't want that possibility.
 
2012-11-02 08:34:36 PM

Blowmonkey: Well that's the way to get votes. This is the last whimper of a dying campaign.

I swear, if barack hadn't done the most miserable job imaginable during the first debate this whole thing would have been over weeks ago.


I personally believe he deliberately went soft on Romney for the first debate because just a week prior GOP pundits were calling him pretentious, uppity, etc. All those words they like using on colored people who don't know their place.

If he was hard on Romney the GOP would have cried about how rude and overconfident he is. Lose-lose.
 
2012-11-02 08:37:35 PM

clowncar on fire: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: clowncar on fire: And I'll be sure to be carrying a copy of this post in my pocket on election day as I cast my "anti-vote" for no other purpose than the pleasure derived knowing that the author of this post's vote will be rendered null and void.

You jumped straight to number eight: 8) making lemonade with sour grapes (e.g., pretending they can take economic advantage of the country's fall into the abyss or "'I'm going to enjoy watching you Liberals XYZ").

Nope. I just null and voided the vote of an asshat poster. Either they'll go all ballistic stupid and start frothing about republican derp gus teabaggery etc, or they will carefully think things out carefully before post inflamatory crap that has real consequences to themself.

Either way- i stand as judge, jury, and executioner.

Hopefully their vote has more meaning to them on the next go-round in four years.


I'm sure you live somewhere that you think you're vote will cancel some 'libs' vote and your being clever, but just know that your vote can't cancel the vote in my absentee ballot in Ohio, you know, a state that matters. Have a good one!
 
2012-11-02 08:39:09 PM

Cletus C.: Kuroshin: Cletus C.: MisterRonbo: Cletus C.: drewsclues: Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.

Oh so passing the republicans own health care law wasn't good enough? Get your head out of your ass.

That really isn't the spirit of cooperation I was envisioning.

Funny how you talk about bipartisanship and cooperation, but only mention Obama needing to make some effort.

Because Republicans have already been making such efforts at bipartisan cooperation, right? All those filibusters are just their way of saying, "we want to make this relationship work!"

I was referring to my hope that a second term for Obama would bring with it his willingness to work with Republicans in Congress for the good of the country. Be a leader. Turn down the rhetoric. Of course the GOP would need to work with him, as well.

He has always done that. Hell, he has always given the Republicans everything they want, just to keep the ball rolling. He's the Great Capitulator. Obama has never played hardball or used partisan rhetoric to get his way.

So what you're suggesting is that he hasn't capitulated to the GOP enough?

Open your damn eyes. Either that, or just admit you're a GOP shill.

That is laughable. It needs to stop from both sides, I'm saying.


Citation and I'll take it back.

Obama has bent over backwards to appease the GOP in Congress. You're just trolling.
 
2012-11-02 08:39:21 PM
img24.imageshack.us
 
2012-11-02 08:39:56 PM

Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.


Yes, he should negotiate more with the more liberal wing of the Democratic party. The GOP is no longer a legitimate party as far as policies go. So ignoring them is perfectly fine.
 
2012-11-02 08:40:48 PM

x23: RedPhoenix122: AirForceVet: Vote the GOP out of Congress into orbit

Not without a space shuttle.


a space shuttle is able to return to earth. we don't want that possibility.


But they don't have the best track record on returns. I'll take that risk, if it has the possibility of some...er...catastrophic failure.
 
2012-11-02 08:42:13 PM
There's two ways to avoid the end result Romney is foretelling.

One is to elect him to President. Suddenly everything will be light and sunshine, and Congress will meet with then-President Romney and get the economy working again.

(This is what some Republican voters truly believe, ignoring the anti-everything Teabaggers who only want to 'stop spending' 'no tax increase' nonsense and don't give a damn about anything else)

The other option is to elect rational, intelligent members of Congress rather than these idiot, racist, narcissistic, bigoted, hate-filled, nonsensical ones we've currently got. Elect Republican or Democrat, either one is fine, as long as the nutbag incumbent is replaced with someone who cares about the country more than what his party puppet masters want him to do.

Right now it is possible that the Democrats may gain up to 5 seats in the Senate (mainly due to the Republicans who just can't keep their mouths shut about rape). A sizable number of Teabaggers in the House are also threatened with expulsion, but I don't know how many is a realistic number. Hopefully the carnage among the far-right wing of the GOP may wake up the rest of them and they'll get back to work.

Naaahhh, I expect at least two more years of herp and derp from them...
 
2012-11-02 08:45:11 PM
This, sir, will NOT stand!
 
2012-11-02 08:48:29 PM

Torgo_of_Manos: neritz: thomps: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

you guys realize that all you are doing is sounding like some sort of hyperbolic hive-mind. and also you're probably signing yourselves up for some soon-to-be created republican gulag.

I already live in South Carolina

Hey...me too


Me three.m To make it even more depressing, I'm originally from Indiana. I still haven't decidred yet if SC is an improvement or not....
 
2012-11-02 08:50:51 PM

ravenlore: Better leader than Romney:

[i2.photobucket.com image 400x438]


Better leader then Romney:

www.wallsave.com
 
2012-11-02 08:51:22 PM

ravenlore: Arachnophobe: zenobia: Galileo's Daughter: Weigard: Via Infinito: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: abb3w: The Third Man: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

Richard Mourdock?

Allen West?

Ted Poe?

Darrell Issa?

Mike Turzai?

Chief?

McCloud?

Paul Ryan?

Dr. Scott!

Janet!


Brad!
 
2012-11-02 08:51:55 PM
Anyone who would vote for that contemptible asshole after he said that deserves prison.
 
2012-11-02 09:01:30 PM
Top of the world, ma!

i90.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-02 09:01:30 PM

clowncar on fire: Either way- i stand as judge, jury, and executioner.

Hopefully their vote has more meaning to them on the next go-round in four years.


Seriously, this made me laugh out loud. You're suck a farking 'tard. I mean honestly, and I'm still laughing, you're probably the dumbest motherfarker I've ever seen on Fark. Not the trolls, not the Republicans, not the rape apologists - you, you are the stupidest farker I've ever seen. God bless your impotent, child mind, you've brightened my day. Now, go run and wash up, scamp while I mark you as a favorite with an appropriate note.

/oh please! Don't steal my vote too! Bwhahahhahah!
 
2012-11-02 09:02:22 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.


img24.imageshack.us

/heh
 
2012-11-02 09:03:15 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The United States does not negotiate with terrorists.


"I think some of our members may have thought the default issue was a hostage you might take a chance at shooting," he said. "Most of us didn't think that. What we did learn is this - it's a hostage that's worth ransoming. "

upload.wikimedia.org

No, we don't negotiate with them, we elect them.
 
2012-11-02 09:04:44 PM

Im_Gumby: ravenlore: Arachnophobe: zenobia: Galileo's Daughter: Weigard: Via Infinito: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: abb3w: The Third Man: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

Richard Mourdock?

Allen West?

Ted Poe?

Darrell Issa?

Mike Turzai?

Chief?

McCloud?

Paul Ryan?

Dr. Scott!

Janet!

Brad!


Rocky!
 
2012-11-02 09:10:43 PM

firefly212: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The United States does not negotiate with terrorists.

"I think some of our members may have thought the default issue was a hostage you might take a chance at shooting," he said. "Most of us didn't think that. What we did learn is this - it's a hostage that's worth ransoming. "

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x279]

No, we don't negotiate with them, we elect them.


Yeah. This douche has been in the Senate longer than any of the others. And he's among the top 10 wealthiest ones too. People like him are the reason we need to have Congressional term limits.
 
2012-11-02 09:10:47 PM

dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?


it's not just political points. there are those who do such things to add more millions to the huge pile of millions they already have. they will put their fellow countrymen out of work, out of a home and children out of food so well-to-do investors may see a few pennies more on the bottom line.

i fear that as more people are not exposed to or give up on the concept of an all powerful entity and the belief of reward for goodness and punishment for evil even more colossal acts of dooshnozzle will prevail. and we the commoners will suffer greatly because of it.
 
2012-11-02 09:11:41 PM

firefly212: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The United States does not negotiate with terrorists.

"I think some of our members may have thought the default issue was a hostage you might take a chance at shooting," he said. "Most of us didn't think that. What we did learn is this - it's a hostage that's worth ransoming. "

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x279]

No, we don't negotiate with them, we elect them.


Jesus, faces don't come more punchable than that.
 
2012-11-02 09:13:19 PM

firefly212: No, we don't negotiate with them, we elect them.


Not me. I don't vote for those bigots. You can elect that filth if you want. Then you are a bad person.

Why do you aspire to be like them? I can tell a Republican a mile away. They are frightened by words and then they shiat themselves and piss their own pants. You can always tell if someone is Republican. They smell like a Republican. Just like shiat.
 
2012-11-02 09:15:29 PM

Hagbardr: Im_Gumby: ravenlore: Arachnophobe: zenobia: Galileo's Daughter: Weigard: Via Infinito: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: abb3w: The Third Man: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

Richard Mourdock?

Allen West?

Ted Poe?

Darrell Issa?

Mike Turzai?

Chief?

McCloud?

Paul Ryan?

Dr. Scott!

Janet!

Brad!

Rocky!


Ugh!
 
2012-11-02 09:19:33 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.


This.

Also Romney you dumbfark people do not respond well to blackmail.
 
2012-11-02 09:20:54 PM

common sense is an oxymoron: Hagbardr: Im_Gumby: ravenlore: Arachnophobe: zenobia: Galileo's Daughter: Weigard: Via Infinito: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: abb3w: The Third Man: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

Richard Mourdock?

Allen West?

Ted Poe?

Darrell Issa?

Mike Turzai?

Chief?

McCloud?

Paul Ryan?

Dr. Scott!

Janet!

Brad!

Rocky!

Ugh!


Slab Bulkhead
 
2012-11-02 09:26:27 PM
Republicans: the stupidest, most incompetent, wrong-headed crowd, who think they are the smartest, most capable, and always-right people on the planet. 

The worst combination of traits anyone could have.
 
2012-11-02 09:31:25 PM

clowncar on fire: Either way- i stand as judge, jury, and executioner


Watch out we got a baddass over here . jpg
 
2012-11-02 09:34:32 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

 
2012-11-02 09:35:00 PM
lh4.googleusercontent.com
 
2012-11-02 09:35:06 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: abb3w: As the de facto perennial logic-lessons [img.fark.net image 54x11]er, I feel obliged to point out that even if the assertion is true, this use of "OR" in the headline is not necessarily an exclusive disjunction.

There will be no supper for you tonight because I've been screwing the milkman all day.


What are you saying? Trout don't live in trees?
 
2012-11-02 09:37:25 PM

dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform?


It has been since 2010:

"The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

-- Senate Minority Leader, Mitch McConnell


Otherwise the moment the GOP lost any right to complain about partisanship.
 
2012-11-02 09:39:51 PM
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imageshack.us
 
2012-11-02 09:41:23 PM

Via Infinito: Zarquon's Flat Tire: Warlordtrooper: Fark them. If Obama is reelected he should do everything in his power to screw over the people who didn't vote for him. For 4 years he has tried to compromise when the other side stood there and acted like spoiled children throwing a tempertantrum. If Obama is re elected its time to make a point. They had the chance to compromise and they didn't, its time for red states to suffer.

As a Democrat who lives in Georgia, fark you.

As a Democrat who lives in Georgia, he's got a point. We should move to Cali and let the South freaking secede already.


As a liberal who just moved to Georgia, I don't know what to think . . .

/PTC south of Atlanta, more Yankees in this town then in Brooklyn
 
2012-11-02 09:43:34 PM

Kimothy: When I read crap like this, I often wish the South would've been successful in their secession. Then we'd have the first world United States next to the failed experiment third world Confederate States.


You know... I'm not particularly tied to the name "United States." Maybe the north should secede and let the South have all the national debt?

And here's a hilarious thought. Guess which state would be the Independent South's California - in terms of economy and progressiveness?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-11-02 09:43:45 PM
They keep quoting him as if what he said were wrong or something.
 
2012-11-02 09:44:38 PM

The Iconoclast: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.


/Oh yeah, this.
 
2012-11-02 09:46:38 PM

Hagbardr: Im_Gumby: ravenlore: Arachnophobe: zenobia: Galileo's Daughter: Weigard: Via Infinito: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: abb3w: The Third Man: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

Richard Mourdock?

Allen West?

Ted Poe?

Darrell Issa?

Mike Turzai?

Chief?

McCloud?

Paul Ryan?

Dr. Scott!

Janet!

Brad!

Rocky!


huh?
 
2012-11-02 09:46:51 PM
You.

YOU, who think you are a God upon Earth.

You will listen to us at your peril.

We created the edifice upon which you thrive with no work or effort of your own.

We are the foundation stone of civilization.

You will not threaten us.

Do not speak of "implosions" of the economy by which we live and earn our keep
and feed our children...or WE shall speak of a few things to YOU.

4.bp.blogspot.com

scrapetv.com

www.blogcdn.com

i.dailymail.co.uk

sciweekly4kids.files.wordpress.com

cache.daylife.com

a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com 
 
2012-11-02 09:53:57 PM

Hobodeluxe: Hagbardr: Im_Gumby: ravenlore: Arachnophobe: zenobia: Galileo's Daughter: Weigard: Via Infinito: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: abb3w: The Third Man: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

Richard Mourdock?

Allen West?

Ted Poe?

Darrell Issa?

Mike Turzai?

Chief?

McCloud?

Paul Ryan?

Dr. Scott!

Janet!

Brad!

Rocky!

huh?


Damn it!
 
2012-11-02 09:55:55 PM
There's a character named Bobby Newport (played awesomely by Paul Rudd) who is running for city council because his powerful businessman father is grooming him for higher office. The guy's an idiot, he has no real ideas but his family's name and money gives him the best campaign in town. He's been handed everything and has never had to hold a real job, and in the last debate he basically threatens the whole town into electing him or else his father will lay off a bunch of townspeople.

Mitt needs to stop taking his cues from douchebag TV characters.
 
2012-11-02 09:56:48 PM

Tremolo: There's a character in Parks and Rec named Bobby Newport (played awesomely by Paul Rudd) who is running for city council because his powerful businessman father is grooming him for higher office. The guy's an idiot, he has no real ideas but his family's name and money gives him the best campaign in town. He's been handed everything and has never had to hold a real job, and in the last debate he basically threatens the whole town into electing him or else his father will lay off a bunch of townspeople.

Mitt needs to stop taking his cues from douchebag TV characters.

 
2012-11-02 09:59:49 PM

jso2897: I don't know how other people respond to threats, but if they are like me, these are not good strategies.


Yeah pretty much.
 
2012-11-02 10:08:44 PM
Treason: Declaring that you will use your elected position to sabotage your nation.
 
2012-11-02 10:08:51 PM

clkeagle: Kimothy: When I read crap like this, I often wish the South would've been successful in their secession. Then we'd have the first world United States next to the failed experiment third world Confederate States.

You know... I'm not particularly tied to the name "United States." Maybe the north should secede and let the South have all the national debt?

And here's a hilarious thought. Guess which state would be the Independent South's California - in terms of economy and progressiveness?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 246x240]


I don't think Texas would willingly go with the south. They're too independent. And you're no doubt correct - they would be the most progressive state of the Confederacy.
 
2012-11-02 10:09:51 PM
I am personally hoping for a straight democrat sweep. If congress has an approval rating of 13% you'd think they would vote some changes.
 
2012-11-02 10:16:53 PM

HeartBurnKid: A Dark Evil Omen: HeartBurnKid: A Dark Evil Omen: More to the point, it was white aristocrats fighting white aristocrats over who got to control a particular labor underclass. It was largely about slavery in the sense that the slaves were the resource being fought over.

Which is why, after the North won, blacks continued to be slaves. Amirite?

No, instead they were forced into the absolute bottom rung of capitalist society as wage slaves, often with worse quality of life than they "enjoyed" as slaves.

Oh, so you're one of the "slavery was a good thing for blacks" types.


Well yes, but slavery was only legal in states who fought for the union such as Kentucky.
 
2012-11-02 10:21:11 PM

Jaws_Victim: I am personally hoping for a straight democrat sweep. If congress has an approval rating of 13% you'd think they would vote some changes.


Yeah, you'd think that.And then you see people re-elect the very same idiots.
 
2012-11-02 10:22:24 PM

RevMercutio: "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."
-- Senate Minority Leader, Mitch McConnell


Soon to be, "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be impeached."
 
2012-11-02 10:31:32 PM

TommyDeuce: Hobodeluxe: Hagbardr: Im_Gumby: ravenlore: Arachnophobe: zenobia: Galileo's Daughter: Weigard: Via Infinito: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: abb3w: The Third Man: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

Richard Mourdock?

Allen West?

Ted Poe?

Darrell Issa?

Mike Turzai?

Chief?

McCloud?

Paul Ryan?

Dr. Scott!

Janet!

Brad!

Rocky!

huh?

Damn it!


Janet,I love yoooooou!
 
2012-11-02 10:32:35 PM

TV's Vinnie: [www.glaucoma-eye-info.com image 320x240]


They can seem eerily human at times.

i47.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-02 10:44:53 PM

Hobodeluxe: TommyDeuce: Hobodeluxe: Hagbardr: Im_Gumby: ravenlore: Arachnophobe: zenobia: Galileo's Daughter: Weigard: Via Infinito: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: abb3w: The Third Man: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

Richard Mourdock?

Allen West?

Ted Poe?

Darrell Issa?

Mike Turzai?

Chief?

McCloud?

Paul Ryan?

Dr. Scott!

Janet!

Brad!

Rocky!

huh?

Damn it!

Janet,I love yoooooou!


Next one that screams gets shot in the tits.
 
2012-11-02 10:57:25 PM

TommyDeuce: Hobodeluxe: TommyDeuce: Hobodeluxe: Hagbardr: Im_Gumby: ravenlore: Arachnophobe: zenobia: Galileo's Daughter: Weigard: Via Infinito: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: abb3w: The Third Man: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

Richard Mourdock?

Allen West?

Ted Poe?

Darrell Issa?

Mike Turzai?

Chief?

McCloud?

Paul Ryan?

Dr. Scott!

Janet!

Brad!

Rocky!

huh?

Damn it!

Janet,I love yoooooou!

Next one that screams gets shot in the tits.


My god. I can't stand any more of this!
 
2012-11-02 10:58:18 PM
if the gop convinces enough idiots we'll all get shot in the tits
 
2012-11-02 11:01:53 PM
Obama's deficits average $1,500,000,000,000 per year. The economy has already been imploded.
 
2012-11-02 11:03:16 PM

Omahawg: if the gop convinces enough idiots we'll all get shot in the tits


I'm prepared for this. 
 
2012-11-02 11:05:01 PM
So Romney is admitting that Republicans are terrorists? Now THAT is a gaffe.
 
2012-11-02 11:06:02 PM
Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

No real exaggeration there. The most wealthy and powerful people in the country, in some of the highest positions of power, seeking the end of the United States by starting a religious/racial world war meant to bring back jesus. That's about as grave a problem as could infect a society.
 
2012-11-02 11:06:10 PM

heap: dickfreckle:

Uh, a list of the biggest assholes in Congress includes far more than just Southerners. I'm not sure why you're blaming everything on us.

it's less blame, and more a situation of acknowledging the south actually tried the 'screw you guys, i'm going home' routine, paired with an intuition it may have been a better idea to just wave at them as they left.

if we play our cards right, within 25 posts, this can be a 'the civil war wasn't about slavery' thread.


weeee.


I suspect would've wound up fighting it out for the territories eventually. But that probably would've been less bloody with less at stake.
 
2012-11-02 11:12:10 PM

shotglasss: Obama's deficits average $1,500,000,000,000 per year. The economy has already been imploded.


I don't think you understand the difference between the US government's budget and the US economy.
 
2012-11-02 11:14:59 PM

RevMercutio: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform?

It has been since 2010:

"The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."
-- Senate Minority Leader, Mitch McConnell

Otherwise the moment the GOP lost any right to complain about partisanship.


Why that hasn't been a prominent part of the Obama campaign since Day One is beyond me. That should have been the keystone of their entire campaign. "These are the guys we're running against. This is all they've done for the last two years. This has been behind everything they've said, thought or voted on. Are they the ones you want running the nation?"

Too bad so many people would have said "SURE!"
 
2012-11-02 11:24:08 PM

shotglasss: Obama's deficits average $1,500,000,000,000 per year. The economy has already been imploded.


I realize you'll consider this garbage, but when Clinton left there was a path to be rid of the debt. Somehow we ended up spending all of that (5.5T or so) plus another 10T or so on W's watch. And we got lots to show for it. The smoldering wreck of an economy. But, you know. Blame the black guy for trying to spend a little to get shiat back on track.
 
2012-11-02 11:26:46 PM
You know why this statement kind of backfires, even if, god forbid, you actually are an "undecided" voter? Because Congress right now has the lowest approval rating I think it has ever had in its entire history. Everybody hates them. I don't think anyone thinks that Obama is entirely to blame for all the shiat they've been up to. And now Mittens comes along and says, "Oh yeah, elect me, I can totally work with these guys."

He's telling everybody that he's just as big of a scumbag as they are, and understands them perfectly.
 
2012-11-02 11:28:42 PM
i165.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-02 11:33:18 PM

shotglasss: Obama's deficits average $1,500,000,000,000 per year. The economy has already been imploded.


Obama has lowered Bush's 1.5 trillion deficit by 8%.

Educate thyself, ignoramus.
 
2012-11-02 11:35:09 PM

Tigger: In a functioning democracy these people would be executed for treason.


In a functioning democracy, we would get to vote one or more of these people out of society by popular vote.

/If you feel like going all Athenian...
 
2012-11-02 11:42:50 PM

GoodyearPimp: shotglasss: Obama's deficits average $1,500,000,000,000 per year. The economy has already been imploded.

I realize you'll consider this garbage, but when Clinton left there was a path to be rid of the debt. Somehow we ended up spending all of that (5.5T or so) plus another 10T or so on W's watch. And we got lots to show for it. The smoldering wreck of an economy. But, you know. Blame the black guy for trying to spend a little to get shiat back on track.


I think you'll find that Obama's policies have more to do with the smoldering economy we have today than anything Bush did. Obama has had 4 years and what do we have to show for it?

I don't blame Obama for the bad economy because of his skin color. I blame Obama because he's more interested in playing golf, taking vacations, and sucking union ballz than fixing anything that helps America.
 
2012-11-02 11:43:10 PM

shotglasss: Obama's deficits average $1,500,000,000,000 per year. The economy has already been imploded.


I read this in his voice. It was much more palatable.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-11-02 11:44:44 PM

MithrandirBooga: shotglasss: Obama's deficits average $1,500,000,000,000 per year. The economy has already been imploded.

Obama has lowered Bush's 1.5 trillion deficit by 8%.

Educate thyself, ignoramus.


2002 $157.8 Billion Deficit $201.02 Billion Deficit

2003 $377.6 Billion Deficit $470.82 Billion Deficit

2004 $413 Billion Deficit $501.21 Billion Deficit R R R

2005 $318 Billion Deficit $373.24 Billion Deficit R R R

2006 $248 Billion Deficit $282.14 Billion Deficit R R R

2007 $161 Billion Deficit $178.1 Billion Deficit

2008 $459 Billion Deficit $488.82 Billion Deficit

2009 $1413 Billion Deficit $1509.62 Billion Deficit

2010 $1294 Billion Deficit $1360.67 Billion Deficit

2011 $1299 Billion Deficit $1324.16 Billion Deficit

2012 $1100 Billion Deficit $1100 Billion Deficit
 
2012-11-02 11:47:03 PM
Nominal Inflation adjusted
2002 $157.8 Billion Deficit $201.02 Billion Deficit

2003 $377.6 Billion Deficit $470.82 Billion Deficit

2004 $413 Billion Deficit $501.21 Billion Deficit

2005 $318 Billion Deficit $373.24 Billion Deficit

2006 $248 Billion Deficit $282.14 Billion Deficit

2007 $161 Billion Deficit $178.1 Billion Deficit

2008 $459 Billion Deficit $488.82 Billion Deficit

2009 $1413 Billion Deficit $1509.62 Billion Deficit

2010 $1294 Billion Deficit $1360.67 Billion Deficit

2011 $1299 Billion Deficit $1324.16 Billion Deficit

2012 $1100 Billion Deficit $1100 Billion Deficit
 
2012-11-02 11:48:34 PM

clkeagle: shotglasss: Obama's deficits average $1,500,000,000,000 per year. The economy has already been imploded.

I read this in his voice. It was much more palatable.

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You sound tired. So tired.
 
2012-11-02 11:49:56 PM
the entire economic argument against Obama is a farce. The GOP destroyed America, and they claim Obama didn't clean up after them FAST enough, the whole time being delayed and stalled by a Republican congress.

But he is blah.
 
2012-11-02 11:50:25 PM

shotglasss:

2009 $1413 Billion Deficit $1509.62 Billion Deficit

2012 $1100 Billion Deficit $1100 Billion Deficit


So the deficit is down 400 billion a year since Bush? Not too shabby while saving the auto industry and getting us back on track.
 
2012-11-02 11:52:30 PM

YoungSwedishBlonde: shotglasss:

2009 $1413 Billion Deficit $1509.62 Billion Deficit

2012 $1100 Billion Deficit $1100 Billion Deficit

So the deficit is down 400 billion a year since Bush? Not too shabby while saving the auto industry and getting us back on track.


i also wonder if that factors in Bush's constant "EMERGENCY SPENDING DERP" that wasn't on budget to pay for his wars.
 
2012-11-02 11:54:11 PM

Raoul Eaton: Heraclitus: As Republicans realize we will NOT be returning to a nostalgic version of our history that never actually existed except in the fevered dreams of some old, impotent white guys, the 7 stages of grief are becoming apparent.

First there was shock and denial. "Where's the birth certificate?"

Second the pain and guilt. "We are being punished for gay illegal alien abortions"

Now the anger and bargaining begins. "Unless we change course, we may well be looking at another recession"

Fourth, after the election depression will rear its ugly head.

Fifth, they will eventually come to terms with reality.

Sixth, they will try to get back in the game and become relevant again.

Seventh, Acceptance and Hope, they will realize that Universal Healthcare is NOT the worst thing that can happen to a country.

I would counsel patience for our fellow Americans as they work through their issues.

The rest of us will be getting on with our lives.

They're not going to work through the issues. For some of them, resentment is a career; for others it's a lifestyle. Either way they're stuck in it. But yeah, the rest of us to have to move on.


Yeah, hoping they will come to terms with reality is a bit of a stretch.
 
2012-11-02 11:57:54 PM

Cletus C.: If re-elected, I hope Obama makes some effort toward bipartisanship. This country will suffer if he does not.


He adopted the Republican health care plan in his first term and we've seen how well that turned out.
 
2012-11-02 11:59:02 PM

ravenlore: Arachnophobe: zenobia: Galileo's Daughter: Weigard: Via Infinito: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: abb3w: The Third Man: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

Richard Mourdock?

Allen West?

Ted Poe?

Darrell Issa?

Mike Turzai?

Chief?

McCloud?

Paul Ryan?

Dr. Scott!

Janet!


Rocky!
 
2012-11-02 11:59:53 PM
Hmm, guess I should have read more of the thread.
 
2012-11-03 12:06:58 AM

DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.


I prefer this:

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The United States does not negotiate with terrorists.


/At least, not the America I was raised in...
//Normally I'd argue whether that was good or bad, but fark it, this time there ain't no argument. Not against fascism. I don't care if it's Nazis using it or fluffy bunnies, the consequences are too bad to contemplate.
 
2012-11-03 12:13:35 AM
The economy's hosed no matter who gets elected. Anybody who says that we can avoid total meltdown is an idiot.
 
2012-11-03 12:14:45 AM

AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP

The US government is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

FTFY
 
2012-11-03 12:16:17 AM

shotglasss: MithrandirBooga: shotglasss: Obama's deficits average $1,500,000,000,000 per year. The economy has already been imploded.

Obama has lowered Bush's 1.5 trillion deficit by 8%.

Educate thyself, ignoramus.

2002 $157.8 Billion Deficit $201.02 Billion Deficit

2003 $377.6 Billion Deficit $470.82 Billion Deficit

2004 $413 Billion Deficit $501.21 Billion Deficit R R R

2005 $318 Billion Deficit $373.24 Billion Deficit R R R

2006 $248 Billion Deficit $282.14 Billion Deficit R R R

2007 $161 Billion Deficit $178.1 Billion Deficit

2008 $459 Billion Deficit $488.82 Billion Deficit

2009 $1413 Billion Deficit $1509.62 Billion Deficit

2010 $1294 Billion Deficit $1360.67 Billion Deficit

2011 $1299 Billion Deficit $1324.16 Billion Deficit

2012 $1100 Billion Deficit $1100 Billion Deficit


I think you missed the part about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan being off the previous Presidents books. And maybe ignored the 313B/409B drop in your numbers over the course of the current presidency and aren't real clear on deficit v. debt. But do keep posting.
 
2012-11-03 12:16:50 AM
BTW... in the long run, increasing the debt is the absolute worst thing they could do for the economy. It does nothing except push the problem into the future, and guarantee that the crash will be worse when it does come. So, this is one of the only good things that could result from an Obama win.
 
2012-11-03 12:18:51 AM
Whatever the fark happened in the political world has caused the odds on the Democratic Party to shoot back up to -400 (or risk 4 to win 1), Vegas has never gotten this incorrect. Sorry Republican fans; don't shoot the messenger.
 
2012-11-03 12:19:43 AM

DrPainMD: BTW... in the long run, increasing the debt is the absolute worst thing they could do for the economy. It does nothing except push the problem into the future, and guarantee that the crash will be worse when it does come. So, this is one of the only good things that could result from an Obama win.


Thanks for your time. We'll get back to you soon.
 
2012-11-03 12:21:16 AM

DrPainMD: BTW... in the long run, increasing the debt is the absolute worst thing they could do for the economy. It does nothing except push the problem into the future, and guarantee that the crash will be worse when it does come. So, this is one of the only good things that could result from an Obama win.


You got a D- in history didn't you.
 
2012-11-03 12:21:37 AM

DrPainMD: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP The US government the heath death o the universeis the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

FTFY


farking pansies.
 
2012-11-03 12:28:21 AM
President Obama: weak on Republicans, wrong for our nation's future.
 
2012-11-03 12:35:12 AM

sno man: DrPainMD: BTW... in the long run, increasing the debt is the absolute worst thing they could do for the economy. It does nothing except push the problem into the future, and guarantee that the crash will be worse when it does come. So, this is one of the only good things that could result from an Obama win.

You got a D- in history didn't you.


No. I got As in history. And in economics. So, tell me why, in 1965, Charles de Gaulle pulled all the French gold out of the FED's New York vault and had it returned to France.
 
2012-11-03 12:35:43 AM
www.iandrinstitute.org

Ohio is in the bag for Romney. From the crooked governor to the rigged voting machines to the purged voter rolls, its done.

And as goes Ohio goes the entire election. 

Book it. Its over.
 
2012-11-03 12:37:41 AM
What does he mean by "will"?
 
2012-11-03 12:38:02 AM

Curse of the Goth Kids: President Obama: weak on Republicans, wrong for our nation's future.


Obama: Weak on wrong Republicans! Future: President for our Nation!
 
2012-11-03 12:39:44 AM

GAT_00: Well, at least he's being honest that the GOP is utterly evil.


THIS. Exactly. Thank you.
 
2012-11-03 12:40:41 AM

Ludovico_D_Technique_Esq: And as goes Ohio goes the entire election.


I take it you haven't played with the election map.
 
2012-11-03 12:41:54 AM

Blowmonkey: Curse of the Goth Kids: President Obama: weak on Republicans, wrong for our nation's future.

Obama: Weak on wrong Republicans! Future: President for our Nation!


Shoes for industry! Shoes for the dead!
 
2012-11-03 12:43:28 AM

Ludovico_D_Technique_Esq: Ohio is in the bag for Romney. From the crooked governor to the rigged voting machines to the purged voter rolls, its done.


Favorited: Another Farker Going Into Hiding After November 6th
 
2012-11-03 12:43:47 AM
I saw the Fark headline, and was like, "Oh, another headline troll. Meh, let's see what he-- oh. Oh. He really said that. Is it because he has balls of steel, or because he's actually that stupid?"
 
2012-11-03 12:48:47 AM

DrPainMD: sno man: DrPainMD: BTW... in the long run, increasing the debt is the absolute worst thing they could do for the economy. It does nothing except push the problem into the future, and guarantee that the crash will be worse when it does come. So, this is one of the only good things that could result from an Obama win.

You got a D- in history didn't you.

No. I got As in history. And in economics. So, tell me why, in 1965, Charles de Gaulle pulled all the French gold out of the FED's New York vault and had it returned to France.


ah... home schooled then, and just 2 hours ago too.
 
2012-11-03 12:49:50 AM

AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.


/has this been repeated yet?
 
2012-11-03 12:50:47 AM
Hrm. Anyone else seriously think Ohio's already gone? Not trolling or looking for troll ammunition - i'm sort of looking at Ohio as our 'new' Florida, myself....
 
2012-11-03 12:56:05 AM

DrPainMD: sno man: DrPainMD: BTW... in the long run, increasing the debt is the absolute worst thing they could do for the economy. It does nothing except push the problem into the future, and guarantee that the crash will be worse when it does come. So, this is one of the only good things that could result from an Obama win.

You got a D- in history didn't you.

No. I got As in history. And in economics. So, tell me why, in 1965, Charles de Gaulle pulled all the French gold out of the FED's New York vault and had it returned to France.


Because the US economy imploded shortly thereafter and never recovered.

Right?
 
2012-11-03 12:57:37 AM

jasimo: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Romney was the first governor in modern Massachusetts history to deny every request for a pardon or commutation during his four years in office. He denied 100 requests for commutations and 172 requests for pardons, including the request from a soldier serving in Iraq to be pardoned for a conviction at age 13 involving a BB gun.

He left office with a 34% approval rating.

Wow.

I'm still wondering why Obama didn't hammer him on that.

"You had a 34% approval rating when you left office!! People have SEEN you govern before... and they don't like it!!!




It's very frustrating. He's on the right side of history, and it's unfortunate that he's under siege by the the most concentrated degenerate, white-trash demographic America has seen since drooling inbreeds were spitting and swearing at black children trying to go to school, but he really is a terrible politician.
 
2012-11-03 01:01:32 AM

NkThrasher: What's sad is that may be the best objective reason to vote for him. There might be slightly less sabotaging of the legislative process.


No. The alternatives are not "Republicans will send sane and rational legislation to Romney to sign" vs "Republicans will not send sane and rational legislation to Obama to sign."

The real alternatives are "Romney will sign every crazy-ass piece of Tea Party legislation that makes it to his desk" vs "Obama will veto crazy-ass Tea Party legislation that makes it to his desk."

If you think that eating dog turd pudding is better than eating nothing, vote Romney. I guess.
 
2012-11-03 01:19:11 AM

neritz: Bontesla: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

 
2012-11-03 01:26:27 AM

Znuh: Hrm. Anyone else seriously think Ohio's already gone? Not trolling or looking for troll ammunition - i'm sort of looking at Ohio as our 'new' Florida, myself....


Sheeeit. Skyline went south first.
 
2012-11-03 01:29:14 AM

doctor wu: but he really is a terrible politician.


I dunno, in a weeks time he will become a two term POTUS. He has a signature national health scheme universally named after him.. and he has a LOT of scope to do a lot lot more. Not sure you get that while being a terrible politician.
 
2012-11-03 01:41:14 AM

DrPainMD: sno man: DrPainMD: BTW... in the long run, increasing the debt is the absolute worst thing they could do for the economy. It does nothing except push the problem into the future, and guarantee that the crash will be worse when it does come. So, this is one of the only good things that could result from an Obama win.

You got a D- in history didn't you.

No. I got As in history. And in economics. So, tell me why, in 1965, Charles de Gaulle pulled all the French gold out of the FED's New York vault and had it returned to France.


....If you can tell me why at this juncture it makes one goddamn difference.
 
2012-11-03 01:52:19 AM

gaspode: doctor wu: but he really is a terrible politician.

I dunno, in a weeks time he will become a two term POTUS. He has a signature national health scheme universally named after him.. and he has a LOT of scope to do a lot lot more. Not sure you get that while being a terrible politician.


too nice. at the first debate instead of looking down and fumbling with his notes I think he would have done himself some good to look over at smirking smirker and simply said "No, governor. That is not true and you know it. Why don't you tell people the truth for a change?"
 
2012-11-03 01:54:35 AM
He said that, like Obama, "I promise change, but I have a record of achieving it."

Yes, Mitt, but this is no time to be talking about your policy stances!
 
2012-11-03 01:56:13 AM

Gyrfalcon: DrPainMD: sno man: DrPainMD: BTW... in the long run, increasing the debt is the absolute worst thing they could do for the economy. It does nothing except push the problem into the future, and guarantee that the crash will be worse when it does come. So, this is one of the only good things that could result from an Obama win.

You got a D- in history didn't you.

No. I got As in history. And in economics. So, tell me why, in 1965, Charles de Gaulle pulled all the French gold out of the FED's New York vault and had it returned to France.

....If you can tell me why at this juncture it makes one goddamn difference.


Because when countries were going off the gold standard and farking around with currencies...hey look a democrat was president then and somehow democrats are bad for the economy. All the successful democrat economies and massive republican failures are just statistical outliers and flukes.
 
2012-11-03 02:05:26 AM

pacified: YoungSwedishBlonde: shotglasss:

2009 $1413 Billion Deficit $1509.62 Billion Deficit

2012 $1100 Billion Deficit $1100 Billion Deficit

So the deficit is down 400 billion a year since Bush? Not too shabby while saving the auto industry and getting us back on track.

i also wonder if that factors in Bush's constant "EMERGENCY SPENDING DERP" that wasn't on budget to pay for his wars.


While heading in a good stream of thought, you aren't stating that correctly. W and the Neocons saw an opportunity to go to war against a Middleeast country via 9-11. They'd ask that this war wouldn't be accounted for on the current books because of how scary this country was. They'd build a US owned and operated pipeline through this country and people would be happy about lower gas costs. Lower gas costs then would increase American production. Well the war dragged on and the pipeline never materialized. So boom, the cost of the war beginning in 2002 came due when W left.

It's not like it was an oversight that it didn't have a line item on the budget, the Neocons begged that it wasn't on the budget.
 
2012-11-03 02:09:28 AM
And I want to point out that I only mentioned above that the effect turned out to be a failure regarding the war in Iraq. But the lies that W sold the country were even a bigger blight on us. We were hoodwinked into that war, plain and simple.
What happened to the term "neocon" anyway? The GOP isn't using it anymore... Weird. Is that because it was espoused by a bunch of sociopaths?
 
2012-11-03 02:12:56 AM
img534.imageshack.us
 
2012-11-03 02:21:38 AM

TheBigJerk: Because when countries were going off the gold standard and farking around with currencies...


Actually that had more to do with de Gualle being a jackass and fanatical French nationalist than anything else. He was pissed the USD was the anchor (and global reserve) currency under Bretton Woods, as he felt it diminished French sovereignty, and pulled French gold as an economic attack against Bretton Woods and the USD.

De Gualle favored the gold standard, particularly that of the pre-war years when each sovereign state held its own reserves and backed its own currency.
 
2012-11-03 02:31:35 AM

thomps: vpb: thomps: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

you guys realize that all you are doing is sounding like some sort of hyperbolic hive-mind. and also you're probably signing yourselves up for some soon-to-be created republican gulag.

Nothing hyperbolic about it. Demagoguery is one of the traditional weaknesses of a democratic system.

and today's demagoguery, specifically that of one party, is the greatest threat that the united states has ever faced? that's a bold claim considering our sh*tbag history.


Oh, obviously it's just hyperbole and outgassing. If any of these people truly believed that 'Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced', they obviously would be doing something more than snarking on the Internet about it. Otherwise, it would be like a US citizen knowing the US was going to be invaded and not doing anything but make jokes about it.. It would be treason. Do you sincerely think that AdolfOliverPanties et. al. are traitors??
 
2012-11-03 02:45:20 AM

TheOther: Do you sincerely think that AdolfOliverPanties et. al. are traitors??


There are all kinds of traitors in history. While the Confederate leadership were truly traitors against the United States, most of the Confederate army was not. They were wrong, but they ultimately fought to protect their state and their property. The current Republican leadership have demonstrated that they will burn the place to the ground in order to win - essentially, they would rather rule in Hell than serve in Heaven. Now the Republican voters support this leadership in many ways. Most of them are still thinking about Reagan. Many are all about unborn babies. Far too many of them don't like the Sheriff to be Near. But mostly they despise the Left because they have chosen their side, so the opposition is always wrong. All that means is that they are stupid. The folks in the middle can see the stupidity on both sides. Republicans have not become traitors themselves, but they are enabling those that would do great harm to this country - solely for the purpose of winning.

I am also afraid that this is setting a precedent. From now on will the party out of power deliberately sabotage the ruling government in order to score points? If so, we don't need to question our form of government - we need to question what kind of people live here.
 
2012-11-03 02:45:59 AM

TheOther:
Otherwise, it would be like a US citizen knowing the US was going to be invaded and not doing anything but make jokes about it.. It would be treason. Do you sincerely think that AdolfOliverPanties et. al. are traitors??


Help me out and post Link I cant post screenshots on my wife's apple
 
2012-11-03 03:24:39 AM

DrPainMD: The economy's hosed no matter who gets elected. Anybody who says that we can avoid total meltdown is an idiot.


We can avoid a meltdown.
 
2012-11-03 03:50:34 AM
sh*tglasss: Obama's deficits average $1,500,000,000,000 per year. The economy has already been imploded.

i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-03 03:51:37 AM

sonnyboy11: DrPainMD: The economy's hosed no matter who gets elected. Anybody who says that we can avoid total meltdown is an idiot.

We can avoid a meltdown.


Yes we can.
We need to understand that microwaves only cost $50 because 11 year olds work an assembly line. Same with our iPads. Anyone remember when those Apple IIs cost about $2,500? And that was when your dad only made 18K/year. Maybe your mom worked part-time at the school to add another 8K.
These cheap electronics costs (manufactured by slave labor) must be understood. I'm singling out electronics because that is what we all get greedy about these days.
We need to pay more for these luxuries, we've become spoiled.
 
2012-11-03 03:59:17 AM

hugram: Jubeebee: DarwiOdrade: RedPhoenix122: doyner: Vodka Zombie: Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: WI241TH: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: RedPhoenix122: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

John Boehner?

Grover Norquist?

Mitch McConnell?

Karl Rove?

Sarah Palin?

Eric Cantor?

Michele Bachmann?

Newt Gingrich?

Steve King?

The entire GOP?


img.myconfinedspace.com
 
2012-11-03 04:01:17 AM

sonnyboy11: DrPainMD: The economy's hosed no matter who gets elected. Anybody who says that we can avoid total meltdown is an idiot.

We can avoid a meltdown.


Go on...
 
2012-11-03 04:02:50 AM

tuna fingers: sonnyboy11: DrPainMD: The economy's hosed no matter who gets elected. Anybody who says that we can avoid total meltdown is an idiot.

We can avoid a meltdown.

Yes we can.
We need to understand that microwaves only cost $50 because 11 year olds work an assembly line. Same with our iPads. Anyone remember when those Apple IIs cost about $2,500? And that was when your dad only made 18K/year. Maybe your mom worked part-time at the school to add another 8K.
These cheap electronics costs (manufactured by slave labor) must be understood. I'm singling out electronics because that is what we all get greedy about these days.
We need to pay more for these luxuries, we've become spoiled.


And, once we're all paying more for everything, we'll be doing great?
 
2012-11-03 04:09:00 AM

shotglasss: clkeagle: shotglasss: Obama's deficits average $1,500,000,000,000 per year. The economy has already been imploded.

I read this in his voice. It was much more palatable.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 313x240]

You sound tired. So tired.


Its amusing when I see you copying the line I tossed at you and your ilk for weeks, it just goes to show you have no original material.
 
2012-11-03 04:37:24 AM

tuna fingers: sonnyboy11: DrPainMD: The economy's hosed no matter who gets elected. Anybody who says that we can avoid total meltdown is an idiot.

We can avoid a meltdown.

Yes we can.
We need to understand that microwaves only cost $50 because 11 year olds work an assembly line. Same with our iPads. Anyone remember when those Apple IIs cost about $2,500? And that was when your dad only made 18K/year. Maybe your mom worked part-time at the school to add another 8K.
These cheap electronics costs (manufactured by slave labor) must be understood. I'm singling out electronics because that is what we all get greedy about these days.
We need to pay more for these luxuries, we've become spoiled.


Not snarking, genuinely curious. How will making sure that factory workers in Asia are paid a decent wage help the US economy?  Morally, it is a worthy goal but how will it help economically?

Unless the argument is that if those workers are paid better, the manufacturing base will return to the US?
 
2012-11-03 05:04:07 AM

Mayhem_2006: Not snarking, genuinely curious. How will making sure that factory workers in Asia are paid a decent wage help the US economy? Morally, it is a worthy goal but how will it help economically?

Unless the argument is that if those workers are paid better, the manufacturing base will return to the US?


Well, that's part of it. The reason the US has a hard time competing is that the very low cost of living in other countries, as measured in dollars, makes their wages far lower than what you could live on in the US. When someone can live on a salary that exchanges at USD$1.00 a day, it's hard for US labor to compete.

Of course, in the particular case of China, their government is accused (rather credibly, I think) of deliberately devaluing the yuan in order to maintain that trade advantage. So it isn't just a matter of them being intrinsically poorer, though that's also true.
 
2012-11-03 05:15:00 AM

tuna fingers: sonnyboy11: DrPainMD: The economy's hosed no matter who gets elected. Anybody who says that we can avoid total meltdown is an idiot.

We can avoid a meltdown.

Yes we can.
We need to understand that microwaves only cost $50 because 11 year olds work an assembly line. Same with our iPads. Anyone remember when those Apple IIs cost about $2,500? And that was when your dad only made 18K/year. Maybe your mom worked part-time at the school to add another 8K.
These cheap electronics costs (manufactured by slave labor) must be understood. I'm singling out electronics because that is what we all get greedy about these days.
We need to pay more for these luxuries, we've become spoiled.


It's a big can of worms you want to open. Electronics prices have dropped due to competition and market demand. Manufactures overestimated the market in some areas and saturated it. So I can now buy a nice 60" 1080p LED TV for about $1k. Some brands (ex: iPhone) are still commanding high prices. But it's not like it was 10 years ago.

I don't disagree with at least the basis of your assertion. But I am also a big proponent of technology and the revolution it has brought with it... and will bring in the future. We can still have this level of advancement and get off our asses at the same time to create jobs at home.
 
2012-11-03 05:16:34 AM

DrPainMD: tuna fingers: sonnyboy11: DrPainMD: The economy's hosed no matter who gets elected. Anybody who says that we can avoid total meltdown is an idiot.

We can avoid a meltdown.

Yes we can.
We need to understand that microwaves only cost $50 because 11 year olds work an assembly line. Same with our iPads. Anyone remember when those Apple IIs cost about $2,500? And that was when your dad only made 18K/year. Maybe your mom worked part-time at the school to add another 8K.
These cheap electronics costs (manufactured by slave labor) must be understood. I'm singling out electronics because that is what we all get greedy about these days.
We need to pay more for these luxuries, we've become spoiled.

And, once we're all paying more for everything, we'll be doing great?


Well, at least we wouldn't be paying for slavery. And if there were no wage differences we'd get some of that unskilled manufacturing back to the US, with more jobs and more people making enough money to actually be able to pay their income tax, while getting off of welfare and other taxpayer-funded programs. So the deficit would go down, and fast. Therefore (stay with me) while the price of electronics might go up, your taxes would go down. Because if you take a man's job and send it away forever, you just created a family on welfare, medicare, medicaid, you name it.
 
2012-11-03 05:21:35 AM

Mithiwithi: Mayhem_2006: Not snarking, genuinely curious. How will making sure that factory workers in Asia are paid a decent wage help the US economy? Morally, it is a worthy goal but how will it help economically?

Unless the argument is that if those workers are paid better, the manufacturing base will return to the US?

Well, that's part of it. The reason the US has a hard time competing is that the very low cost of living in other countries, as measured in dollars, makes their wages far lower than what you could live on in the US. When someone can live on a salary that exchanges at USD$1.00 a day, it's hard for US labor to compete.

Of course, in the particular case of China, their government is accused (rather credibly, I think) of deliberately devaluing the yuan in order to maintain that trade advantage. So it isn't just a matter of them being intrinsically poorer, though that's also true.


Also,

The best way to preserve our standards of living and amiable working conditions is to demand at least the bare minimum of these for the workers in nations we do business with.

It's about more than just pay. In fact, despite us living in a global market, their pay rate can be completely inconsequential to the discussion.

As long as they can afford to live in home and not a hut, as long as it's not an army of 7 year olds sewing together shoes and as long as we aren't demanding dangerous/toxic/inhumane work out of their labor that wouldn't be accepted here, our workers will benefit.

... even if we don't stand a chance at competing on the bottom line in labor costs, it maintains a standard that is best for everyone. Or to say it another way, the wider we let that gap grow in what is acceptable floor for overseas labor conditions, the more sacrifices the labor market will continue to try and demand out of the American worker.
 
2012-11-03 05:27:40 AM
Not to mention, the economy is recovering nicely, and predicted to add 12 million jobs in the US over the next 4 years. No matter if Romney or Obama wins.
 
2012-11-03 05:37:31 AM

Lionel Mandrake: FlashHarry: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.


Yep.
Besides our civil war, we've not been pushed so hard to just accept an agenda.
 
2012-11-03 05:38:24 AM

ghare: Not to mention, the economy is recovering nicely, and predicted to add 12 million jobs in the US over the next 4 years. No matter if Romney or Obama wins.


Yup. And it's got a lot to do with Obama and his policies. It's taken a while to fix things courtesy of all the Republican obstructionism and their persistent objective to put party ahead of country. True patriots, the lot of em.
 
2012-11-03 05:39:27 AM

vpb: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

I don't know that it's worse than the civil war, but definitely in the top two. We have had this sort of crazy before, but not from such a large percentage of the population.


Yeah. What you said.
 
2012-11-03 05:41:05 AM

Somacandra: Are you threatening me?
The streets will flow with the blood of the unbelievers!


Bung hole.

Me-heh-heh-heee.

/titicaca
 
2012-11-03 05:42:25 AM

vernonFL: Miss me yet?


Not nearly enough yet, no.
 
2012-11-03 07:11:14 AM

cameroncrazy1984: shotglasss: Obama's deficits average $1,500,000,000,000 per year. The economy has already been imploded.

I don't think you understand the difference between the US government's budget and the US economy.


To all outward appearances, he can't tell the difference between shiat and Shinola.
 
2012-11-03 07:37:46 AM

Mixolydian Master: [img24.imageshack.us image 850x637]


i560.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-03 07:41:42 AM

vpb: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

I don't know that it's worse than the civil war, but definitely in the top two. We have had this sort of crazy before, but not from such a large percentage of the population.


Bad as the civil war was, losing the south would have made the US smaller, but it would still have been the US (might have been a smarter US though). The policies of today's GOP would turn the US into a third-world theocracy. The exact opposite of what your founding fathers wanted.
 
2012-11-03 07:43:12 AM

thomps: you guys realize that all you are doing is sounding like some sort of hyperbolic hive-mind.


I know it sounds hyperbolic, but can you think of a greater historic or current threat to the US (than today's GOP)?
 
2012-11-03 07:45:16 AM
r24.cooltext.com
 
2012-11-03 08:15:39 AM

ravenlore: Better leader than Romney:

[i2.photobucket.com image 400x438]


A vote for Pinkie Pie is a vote for awesome.
 
2012-11-03 08:47:23 AM
If I was inclined to vote Republican (Which I am not, I agree with some of their points, but their social views make me sick.) reading that would ensure I would vote against any republican in congress in the hopes that enough like minded folks would do the same in order to make it impossible for him to carry out this threat.
 
2012-11-03 09:33:20 AM

KrispyKritter: dickfreckle: Remember when politicians routinely compromised to get things done? Is "obstruction as a device to make the president look bad" now an official part of their stated platform? What sort of collassal douchenozzle must you be to actively harm the country in order to score political points?

it's not just political points. there are those who do such things to add more millions to the huge pile of millions they already have. they will put their fellow countrymen out of work, out of a home and children out of food so well-to-do investors may see a few pennies more on the bottom line.

i fear that as more people are not exposed to or give up on the concept of an all powerful entity and the belief of reward for goodness and punishment for evil even more colossal acts of dooshnozzle will prevail. and we the commoners will suffer greatly because of it.


Other than the fact that this has been the cause of most Doochenozzlery in history.
 
2012-11-03 09:37:01 AM

Ludovico_D_Technique_Esq: [www.iandrinstitute.org image 418x328]

Ohio is in the bag for Romney. From the crooked governor to the rigged voting machines to the purged voter rolls, its done.

And as goes Ohio goes the entire election. 

Book it. Its over.


Aaaaaaaaaaaaand there's your problem. The purged voter rolls don't exist. The teabagging twatwaffle that tried to disenfranchise a bunch of OSU kids got destroyed at the BOE meeting. Many people fought back against the near exclusive teabagging effort. Early voting is high and it's going to be good.

My state is better than that.
 
2012-11-03 09:38:15 AM

The Larch: If you think that eating dog turd pudding is better than eating nothing, vote Romney. I guess


I am bored. I might post that to facebook with this article.

gothelder: If I was inclined to vote Republican (Which I am not, I agree with some of their points,


I used to feel that way.

But any illusion of fiscal responsibility went out the window with the Bush Tax cuts. You can't start a war and cut taxes, while claiming you are being fiscally responsible.

And they have gone even more off the deep end with the Grover Pledge and teatards.
 
2012-11-03 09:45:47 AM

Ludovico_D_Technique_Esq: [www.iandrinstitute.org image 418x328]

Ohio is in the bag for Romney. From the crooked governor to the rigged voting machines to the purged voter rolls, its done.

And as goes Ohio goes the entire election. 

Book it. Its over.


That's awesome!
 
2012-11-03 09:57:31 AM

timujin: Obvious solution? Vote the Republicans out of Congress..


This.
 
2012-11-03 09:58:04 AM

RedPhoenix122: AirForceVet: Vote the GOP out of Congress into orbit

Not without a space shuttle.


If you're not worried about human-rated launch systems, SpaceX may do it for a song. (I don't know their politics.)
 
2012-11-03 10:41:56 AM

jso2897: cameroncrazy1984: shotglasss: Obama's deficits average $1,500,000,000,000 per year. The economy has already been imploded.

I don't think you understand the difference between the US government's budget and the US economy.

To all outward appearances, he can't tell the difference between shiat and Shinola.


Sure I can! What you're full of is not Shinola!
 
2012-11-03 10:46:12 AM
Do it you Republican retards, it will be amusing to watch congress critters hunted down and strung up.
 
2012-11-03 01:01:21 PM

shotglasss: jso2897: cameroncrazy1984: shotglasss: Obama's deficits average $1,500,000,000,000 per year. The economy has already been imploded.

I don't think you understand the difference between the US government's budget and the US economy.

To all outward appearances, he can't tell the difference between shiat and Shinola.

Sure I can! What you're full of is not Shinola!


Of course not - it's LOVE!
i18.photobucket.com
If You Love, Love Openly

Twenty monks and one nun, who was named Eshun, were practicing meditation with a certain Zen master.

Eshun was very pretty even though her head was shaved and her dress plain. Several monks secretly fell in love with her. One of them wrote her a love letter, insisting upon a private meeting.

Eshun did not reply. The following day the master gave a lecture to the group, and when it was over, Eshun arose. Addressing the one who had written to her, she said: "If you really love me so much, come and embrace me now."
 
2012-11-03 01:20:15 PM

Worst Name I Ever Heard: RevMercutio: "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."
-- Senate Minority Leader, Mitch McConnell

Soon to be, "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be impeached."


If Republicans don't turn things down after this election, if they pursue another government shutdown I think a majority of voters would support impeachment proceedings against congress.
 
2012-11-03 01:52:44 PM

DrPainMD: sno man: DrPainMD: BTW... in the long run, increasing the debt is the absolute worst thing they could do for the economy. It does nothing except push the problem into the future, and guarantee that the crash will be worse when it does come. So, this is one of the only good things that could result from an Obama win.

You got a D- in history didn't you.

No. I got As in history. And in economics. So, tell me why, in 1965, Charles de Gaulle pulled all the French gold out of the FED's New York vault and had it returned to France.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-03 01:53:00 PM

MindStalker: If Republicans don't turn things down after this election, if they pursue another government shutdown I think a majority of voters would support impeachment proceedings against congress.


I would love to believe that. But given the evidence of the past few years, I am extremely skeptical. If anything, they'll be turning the derp knob even further up, past 11 (they go to infinity).
 
2012-11-03 02:19:15 PM

Worst Name I Ever Heard: MindStalker: If Republicans don't turn things down after this election, if they pursue another government shutdown I think a majority of voters would support impeachment proceedings against congress.

I would love to believe that. But given the evidence of the past few years, I am extremely skeptical. If anything, they'll be turning the derp knob even further up, past 11 (they go to infinity).


Considering they can't be bothered now to vote in their own interests, I can't imagine them blaming anyone with an (R) next to their name. These people won't be swayed by facts and culpability. There could be just one democrat left in congress and I have all the faith in the world most of today's Republicans would just accept that it was that lone socialist democrat farking up everything. If we could just get rid of him the utopia would be realized and we could stop eating butter and sugar sandwiches and we'd all have jerbs. Stupid democrats... 

/I'm writing in for Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson this year
//figure it'll effect as much change as voting (D) or (R)...
 
2012-11-03 02:30:11 PM

Avery614: //figure it'll effect as much change as voting (D) or (R)...


derp
 
2012-11-03 03:02:29 PM

whidbey: Avery614: //figure it'll effect as much change as voting (D) or (R)...

derp


If you took me seriously in saying I'd vote for "The Rock", then there's no helping you....

Derp indeed...

/tongue in cheek sir, tongue in cheek
 
2012-11-03 06:20:37 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: I would really love it if the GOPs intransigence during Obama's first term ends up creating the liberal boogeyman they kept portraying him as. He knows they won't work with him on anything, and he doesn't need to care about reelection. Day one he should walk into the Oval Office and throw down a stack of legislation that legalizes gay marriage, bans all handguns, and opens up government sponsored abortion factories. Turn the GOP's Overton window against them.

Want to make Obamacare a little better? Propose single-payer.
Want to enact some environmental legislation? Propose banning all fossil fuels.


I knew there was a reason I had you farkied as "Reasonable mofo"

/Want to make some defense cuts? Propose unilateral armed forces disarmament.
//Okay that one was way over the top
 
2012-11-03 09:28:07 PM

ghare: DrPainMD: tuna fingers: sonnyboy11: DrPainMD: The economy's hosed no matter who gets elected. Anybody who says that we can avoid total meltdown is an idiot.

We can avoid a meltdown.

Yes we can.
We need to understand that microwaves only cost $50 because 11 year olds work an assembly line. Same with our iPads. Anyone remember when those Apple IIs cost about $2,500? And that was when your dad only made 18K/year. Maybe your mom worked part-time at the school to add another 8K.
These cheap electronics costs (manufactured by slave labor) must be understood. I'm singling out electronics because that is what we all get greedy about these days.
We need to pay more for these luxuries, we've become spoiled.

And, once we're all paying more for everything, we'll be doing great?

Well, at least we wouldn't be paying for slavery. And if there were no wage differences we'd get some of that unskilled manufacturing back to the US, with more jobs and more people making enough money to actually be able to pay their income tax, while getting off of welfare and other taxpayer-funded programs. So the deficit would go down, and fast. Therefore (stay with me) while the price of electronics might go up, your taxes would go down. Because if you take a man's job and send it away forever, you just created a family on welfare, medicare, medicaid, you name it.


You assume that people would be buying the same amount of high-priced goods as they currently buy low-priced goods. That is a false assumption. Sales would plummet and all those new American jobs would evaporate. Then we'd have high unemployment and high prices. Not to mention a trade war, and the loss of jobs in industries that currently export.
 
2012-11-04 04:09:16 AM
Like they haven't been doing that already? Why remove a president to fulfill the wishes of a disruptive house?
 
2012-11-04 08:21:37 PM

starsrift: I saw the Fark headline, and was like, "Oh, another headline troll. Meh, let's see what he-- oh. Oh. He really said that. Is it because he has balls of steel, or because he's actually that stupid?"


It's because he knows how stupid the public is.
 
2012-11-04 08:35:07 PM

tuna fingers: sonnyboy11: DrPainMD: The economy's hosed no matter who gets elected. Anybody who says that we can avoid total meltdown is an idiot.

We can avoid a meltdown.

Yes we can.
We need to understand that microwaves only cost $50 because 11 year olds work an assembly line. Same with our iPads. Anyone remember when those Apple IIs cost about $2,500? And that was when your dad only made 18K/year. Maybe your mom worked part-time at the school to add another 8K.
These cheap electronics costs (manufactured by slave labor) must be understood. I'm singling out electronics because that is what we all get greedy about these days.
We need to pay more for these luxuries, we've become spoiled.


Yeah I agree. The price of electronic consumer goods is astonishingly low until you factor in the hidden cost of jobs (and economic power) being exported to China. I can remember when a microwave oven was a major purchase. Now I can pick one up in the supermarket with the weekly grocery shopping.
 
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