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(NPR)   Proof that Obama wasted time getting aid to the people in Benghazi, told them to stand down, and refused to send troops or air support. Oh, except he didn't, didn't, and didn't   (npr.org) divider line 373
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2012-11-02 05:07:10 PM  

Jackson Herring: Carn: Jackson Herring: Still though, you have to admit that Omaba bad black. Really bad black.

FTFF

wow good thing nobody else thought of that joke


I'm just not trying hard enough today.
 
2012-11-02 05:07:22 PM  

cchris_39: Wow.

Even for state sponsored media NPR, that was pretty daming.

The article openly admits that we knew damn well what was happening even at it happened, but had no resources or clue how to respond.


No, it said we responded quickly with what we had. the GOP seems to have wanted us to bomb everything, resulting in mass casualties. That's no were near the proper response.

Turns out, your options are limited when you can't tell friend from foe, and forces are hundreds of miles away. What exactly do you expect should have happened?
 
2012-11-02 05:07:58 PM  
"Oh, except he didn't, didn't, and didn't ..."

i48.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-02 05:08:16 PM  

cchris_39: state sponsored media NPR


Even I didn't think you were that stupid.

If you really think that NPR is a propaganda piece of the government, you obviously haven't been outside the US.
 
2012-11-02 05:08:40 PM  
Sadly, NPR is offering facts to intellectual giants like this:

"The buddhists are coming to take our religious freedoms".
 
2012-11-02 05:09:35 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Antimatter: What on earth are you talking about? He avoided conclusive statements because the smoke hadn't cleared and no one knew exactly what had happened. Only a fool speaks in absolutes that early.

That would've explained why Mitt Romney spoke in absolutes hours after the attack happened.


Romney only cared about political points with his base, he doesn't give a damn about who died or why. The GOP cannot empathize with others, so they don't see a problem with their hypocrisy and lack of understanding. Hell, to them, it's a positive trait. This is why losing 3,000 was a time to come together and blame no one, while losing five is a horrible thing that requires the President to resign.
 
2012-11-02 05:09:42 PM  

alizeran: Sadly, NPR is offering facts to intellectual giants like this:

"The buddhists are coming to take our religious freedoms".


Ashoka said to know you out.
 
2012-11-02 05:09:57 PM  
This article will never convince my crazy cousin on FB either.

NPR? Really? If the souce isn't something like stinker or freeper it's obviously librul lies. But I'll give it a shot anyway as he's getiing tired of all my fark-meme "beating a dead horse" pictures but still hasn't given up.
 
2012-11-02 05:10:10 PM  

hbk72777: bdub77: I posted this in an earlier thread:

Let's look at major terror attacks under the past several administrations, shall we? Negating Iraq/Afghanistan which are war zones.
...
You realize the presidents above shows the course of 2 terms (outside of original Bush)


And, outside of original Bush, every single one had multiple attacks that significantly surpassed the Benghazi death toll, including at least one per President with death tolls with three or more digits, IN THEIR FIRST TERM.
 
2012-11-02 05:10:15 PM  

Agneska: miscreant: Agneska: Why was the Obama admin trying to bamboozle Americans by saying that the attack was related to the video? Obama lied, Americans died.

They didn't know what the situation was. Hardly surprising that they didn't have 100% accurate intelligence half a world away as it was happening.

Even if they HAD, and Obama actually lied about the movie instead of simply being mistaken, the Americans were already dead by that point, so who exactly would be the Americans that died due to that particular lie?

/Much better if the faulty intelligence had led you into a decade long war against a country that had nothing to do with the attack right?

But why the lies? The obfuscation? If Fox wasn't asking questions and doing research, we wouldn't know any of this. This story isn't finished. There's more to it. You libbies criticized right wingers for marching along with George Bush like sheep. Now go look in the mirror.


Oh yes thank you Fox news for helping us to realize that apples aren't oranges.
 
2012-11-02 05:10:30 PM  

Agneska: If Fox wasn't asking questions and doing research, we wouldn't know any of this.


raventao.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-02 05:10:32 PM  

Agneska: Zapruder: Agneska: Why was the Obama admin trying to bamboozle Americans by saying that the attack was related to the video? Obama lied, Americans died.

The right way for him to word it would've been "The video sparked a riot, and that riot led to confusion and a smoke screen that the attackers saw as an opportunity. Then they struck."

Unfortunately, he didn't build that speech.

Yes, that would have been a better speech. Straight talk. But that is not the type of man he is. He likes to avoid any issues that may in the slightest have negative consequences FOR HIM. Once again, he voted present and people got hurt.


All the "Obama and his time machine" jokes aside, you do realize that the deaths occurred before Obama's supposed lies, right? If you're unclear on the whole cause and effect thing, I can probably find some episodes of Sesame Street that might help you learn.
 
2012-11-02 05:11:19 PM  
Step right up, Farklibs, and get another glass of KoolAid! Now flavored with Obamaballs! Gargle them up!
 
2012-11-02 05:11:55 PM  

Mrtraveler01: cchris_39: state sponsored media NPR

Even I didn't think you were that stupid.

If you really think that NPR is a propaganda piece of the government, you obviously haven't been outside the US.


What does that have to do with NPR being a taxpayer funded arm of the DNC?
 
2012-11-02 05:12:49 PM  
Remember back in the days when the GOP used to be good at Swiftboating the Democrats in the 11th hour of Presidential elections? Damn, y'all lost your mojo. This Benghazi hilaritiy is like watching Michael Jordan play with the Wizzards.
 
2012-11-02 05:13:01 PM  

shotglasss: Mrtraveler01: cchris_39: state sponsored media NPR

Even I didn't think you were that stupid.

If you really think that NPR is a propaganda piece of the government, you obviously haven't been outside the US.

What does that have to do with NPR being a taxpayer funded arm of the DNC?


You obviously have never listened to NPR.
 
2012-11-02 05:13:36 PM  

Teufelaffe: Agneska: Zapruder: Agneska: Why was the Obama admin trying to bamboozle Americans by saying that the attack was related to the video? Obama lied, Americans died.

The right way for him to word it would've been "The video sparked a riot, and that riot led to confusion and a smoke screen that the attackers saw as an opportunity. Then they struck."

Unfortunately, he didn't build that speech.

Yes, that would have been a better speech. Straight talk. But that is not the type of man he is. He likes to avoid any issues that may in the slightest have negative consequences FOR HIM. Once again, he voted present and people got hurt.

All the "Obama and his time machine" jokes aside, you do realize that the deaths occurred before Obama's supposed lies, right? If you're unclear on the whole cause and effect thing, I can probably find some episodes of Sesame Street that might help you learn.


How long until the GOP starts arguing that since time appears to crystalize from higher than the fifth dimension, causality can flow in multiple directions thus Obama is responsible for all those things we jokingly blame his Time Machine on.
 
2012-11-02 05:13:43 PM  

Agneska: But why the lies? The obfuscation? If Fox wasn't asking questions and doing research, we wouldn't know any of this. This story isn't finished. There's more to it. You libbies criticized right wingers for marching along with George Bush like sheep. Now go look in the mirror.


What lies? They made a mistake about the motivation, and then came out and admitted that mistake. I've yet to hear a former member of the Bush administration admit their intelligence on Iraq was all BS. The Obama administration is already a million miles ahead in accountability and transparency. Fox and the right wing are trying to make something out of this because there is an election. If there had been a republican in the white house when it happened, you wouldn't be hearing a peep from them.

/Also... anyone who uses the term libbies is either an obvious partisan idiot or a troll
 
2012-11-02 05:14:24 PM  
If Fox wasn't asking questions and doing research, we wouldn't know any of this

You no longer have any credibility on any topic you comment on ever again.
 
2012-11-02 05:15:47 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: There were BDS agents, but I guess only Marines count because armchair derpsters don't know what the BDS is or what they or the Marines actually do.

Truly I have no idea what goes into the training of a BDS agent. I used Marines only because that's what I've seen at the embassies and consulates I've visited around the world. Yeah, I'm that guy. If I go to a foreign country I check in. And I saw more guards (that happen to be Marines) at the consulate in Lithuania then were in Libya. Unless one BDS agent is worth 5 Marines in a fire fight then someone really really messed up in Libya.


There's no American consulate in Lithuania. Are you sure you saw guards at a non-existant place?
 
2012-11-02 05:17:37 PM  

Tigger: If Fox wasn't asking questions and doing research, we wouldn't know any of this

You no longer have any credibility on any topic you comment on ever again.


churchandstate.org.uk
 
2012-11-02 05:18:01 PM  

hbk72777: bdub77: I posted this in an earlier thread:

Let's look at major terror attacks under the past several administrations, shall we? Negating Iraq/Afghanistan which are war zones.

Reagan Years:
1983:
Lebanon: U.S. embassy is destroyed in suicide car-bomb attack; 63 dead, including 17 Americans. Same year and place, suicide bombers exploded truck near U.S. military barracks at Beirut airport, killing 241 marines.
Kuwait: shiate truck bombers attacked the U.S. embassy and other targets, killing 5 and injuring 80.

1985:
Rome: airports in Rome and Vienna were bombed, killing 20 people, 5 of whom were Americans. Bombing linked to Libya.

1986:
Greece: A bomb exploded aboard TWA flight 840 en route from Rome to Athens, killing 4 Americans and injuring 9.
Germany: Libyans bombed a disco frequented by U.S. servicemen, killing 2 and injuring hundreds.

1988:
Scotland: N.Y.-bound Pan-Am Boeing 747 exploded in flight from a terrorist bomb and crashed into Scottish village, killing all 259 aboard and 11 on the ground. Passengers included 35 Syracuse University students and many U.S. military personnel.

Reagan death toll: Quite a few deaths but no major attacks.

George HW Bush:

Well...pretty much zero. None cited that I saw. Good job!

Bush Sr. Death toll: Excellent, no major terror attacks.

Clinton:
1993:
New York: bomb exploded in basement garage of World Trade Center, killing 6 and injuring at least 1,040 others.

1995
Oklahoma City: car bomb exploded outside federal office building, collapsing wall and floors. 168 people were killed, including 19 children and 1 person who died in rescue effort.
Saudi Arabia: car bomb exploded at U.S. military headquarters, killing 5 U.S. military servicemen.

1996
Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds of others.

1998
Kenya and Tanzania: truck bombs exploded almost simultaneously near 2 U.S. embassies, killing 224 (213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania) and ...


You realize the presidents above shows the course of 2 terms (outside of original Bush)



Okay, would you like to divide those numbers by two? Or better yet just focus on the first terms? I think you'll see significantly ... NO DIFFERENCE.
 
2012-11-02 05:18:27 PM  
It seemed pretty clear to me from the day after the attack that there was CIA in Benghazi. The President can't really talk about that. So he didn't.
 
2012-11-02 05:18:27 PM  

TheBigJerk: FarkedOver: Kazan: FarkedOver: Kazan: TheBigJerk: Benghazi meme is forced meme.

[i75.photobucket.com image 640x640]

dude. loose the homophobia.

Don't ever go to 4chan man....

no shiat, why would i wade in that cesspool.

For the lulz of course.

For teh lulz: the only reason anyone ever did anything.


Here y'are biatchcakes:

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2012-11-02 05:18:35 PM  
If Fox wasn't asking questions and doing research, we wouldn't know any of this.
dl.dropbox.com
 
2012-11-02 05:18:57 PM  

Tigger: If Fox wasn't asking questions and doing research, we wouldn't know any of this

You no longer have any credibility on any topic you comment on ever again.


I'm heart broken. I really am.

CNN, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, etc are not touching this hot potato even though it's one of the biggest stories in 2012. They're covering Obama's ass, as usual. Open your mind, grasshopper, and play with the Fox.
 
2012-11-02 05:19:07 PM  
I liked Ben Ghazi in all those Cassavetes movies.
 
2012-11-02 05:19:28 PM  

Mrtraveler01: shotglasss: Mrtraveler01: cchris_39: state sponsored media NPR

Even I didn't think you were that stupid.

If you really think that NPR is a propaganda piece of the government, you obviously haven't been outside the US.

What does that have to do with NPR being a taxpayer funded arm of the DNC?

You obviously have never listened to NPR.


It's more of the Republican inability to see things in more than black and white. If they aren't spewing Republican propaganda 24/7, they're dirty liberals.
 
2012-11-02 05:21:49 PM  
And yet there are still plenty of farkwads who believe the initial cover story about the Youtube video.
 
2012-11-02 05:22:58 PM  

LordJiro: Mrtraveler01: shotglasss: Mrtraveler01: cchris_39: state sponsored media NPR

Even I didn't think you were that stupid.

If you really think that NPR is a propaganda piece of the government, you obviously haven't been outside the US.

What does that have to do with NPR being a taxpayer funded arm of the DNC?

You obviously have never listened to NPR.

It's more of the Republican inability to see things in more than black and white. If they aren't spewing Republican propaganda 24/7, they're dirty liberals.


I know.

But they have guests on that spew GOP Propaganda but never get called out for any falsehoods of it.

That's why when I hear people say that NPR is liberal propaganda, I can't help but laugh right in front of their face.
 
2012-11-02 05:23:36 PM  
The Federal Government. Providing accurate information on administration embarrassments since 1966.

/I would have said 1972 to point out Watergate, but the official Vietnam briefings beg to be included.
 
2012-11-02 05:23:47 PM  

ilambiquated: The freepers have taken to calling Obama "The Butcher of Benghazi".


melaniekillingervowell.files.wordpress.com 

The image doesn't show, but it says: "Obama" "Killed Him"
Just for fun, notice the dead guy on the right is actually Gaddafi.
 
2012-11-02 05:24:20 PM  

propasaurus: I liked Ben Ghazi in all those Cassavetes movies.


I was never really into Bollywood cinema.
 
2012-11-02 05:24:35 PM  

Agneska: Tigger: If Fox wasn't asking questions and doing research, we wouldn't know any of this

You no longer have any credibility on any topic you comment on ever again.

I'm heart broken. I really am.

CNN, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, etc are not touching this hot potato even though it's one of the biggest stories in 2012. They're covering Obama's ass, as usual. Open your mind, grasshopper, and play with the Fox.


Awesome teleological error you've got there.

You only think it's one of the biggest stories of 2012 because it's on Fox a lot.

Just to be clear: Even the conservatives on this site now think you're an idiot.
 
2012-11-02 05:25:08 PM  

Jackson Herring: Still though, you have to admit that Omaba bad. Really bad.


LOL! I was gonna say "fat dog bad", but I see you've got it covered in spades.

/spades? Wait... what?
 
2012-11-02 05:25:15 PM  
Agneska: miscreant: Agneska: Why was the Obama admin trying to bamboozle Americans by saying that the attack was related to the video? Obama lied, Americans died.

They didn't know what the situation was. Hardly surprising that they didn't have 100% accurate intelligence half a world away as it was happening.

Even if they HAD, and Obama actually lied about the movie instead of simply being mistaken, the Americans were already dead by that point, so who exactly would be the Americans that died due to that particular lie?

/Much better if the faulty intelligence had led you into a decade long war against a country that had nothing to do with the attack right?

But why the lies? The obfuscation? If Fox wasn't asking questions and doing research, we wouldn't know any of this. This story isn't finished. There's more to it. You libbies criticized right wingers for marching along with George Bush like sheep. Now go look in the mirror.


Perhaps you are correct--particularly with NDAA. And liberals certainly did attack Bush, the difference being on stances that had another side, not some absolutely ludicrous orgy of straw grasping. If conservatives wanted to attack Obama like liberals attacked Bush, go after civil liberty restrictions like NDAA. That's where we cared with Bush where we don't seem to be now. There you are right.

But you idiots love NDAA. So have fun wit Benghazi.
 
2012-11-02 05:25:38 PM  
It's a fun little experiment to see how far a manufactured story can go.
 
2012-11-02 05:27:08 PM  

rillettes: The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: There were BDS agents, but I guess only Marines count because armchair derpsters don't know what the BDS is or what they or the Marines actually do.

Truly I have no idea what goes into the training of a BDS agent. I used Marines only because that's what I've seen at the embassies and consulates I've visited around the world. Yeah, I'm that guy. If I go to a foreign country I check in. And I saw more guards (that happen to be Marines) at the consulate in Lithuania then were in Libya. Unless one BDS agent is worth 5 Marines in a fire fight then someone really really messed up in Libya.

There's no American consulate in Lithuania. Are you sure you saw guards at a non-existant place?


You're right...it's an embassy.

Please note, I am NOT agreeing with The Stealth Retardapottamus here. Just pointing out that while he/she/it may not realize the difference between a consulate and an embassy and just made an assumption about what it is they saw, there is something there to be seen.
 
2012-11-02 05:28:12 PM  

rillettes: There's no American consulate in Lithuania. Are you sure you saw guards at a non-existant place?


I have pictures of me in that non-existent place. It was there in 1998, 2006 and 2011 can't tell you if there is one there now.
 
2012-11-02 05:29:16 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: rillettes: The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: There were BDS agents, but I guess only Marines count because armchair derpsters don't know what the BDS is or what they or the Marines actually do.

Truly I have no idea what goes into the training of a BDS agent. I used Marines only because that's what I've seen at the embassies and consulates I've visited around the world. Yeah, I'm that guy. If I go to a foreign country I check in. And I saw more guards (that happen to be Marines) at the consulate in Lithuania then were in Libya. Unless one BDS agent is worth 5 Marines in a fire fight then someone really really messed up in Libya.

There's no American consulate in Lithuania. Are you sure you saw guards at a non-existant place?

You're right...it's an embassy.

Please note, I am NOT agreeing with The Stealth Retardapottamus here. Just pointing out that while he/she/it may not realize the difference between a consulate and an embassy and just made an assumption about what it is they saw, there is something there to be seen.


A lot of the story seems based on that misunderstanding. Consulates are not as often as well defended as true embassy are.
 
2012-11-02 05:30:00 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Please note, I am NOT agreeing with The Stealth Retardapottamus here. Just pointing out that while he/she/it may not realize the difference between a consulate and an embassy and just made an assumption about what it is they saw, there is something there to be seen.


I know but it's been bugging the crap out of me that people keep mistaking a consulate for an embassy when it comes to Libya.
 
2012-11-02 05:35:11 PM  

cchris_39: Wow.

Even for state sponsored media NPR, that was pretty daming.

The article openly admits that we knew damn well what was happening even at it happened, but had no resources or clue how to respond.


it wasn't considered a hot theater of operations by the military or intelligence agencies, because it hadn't been for eons. the fact that we had scant resources in the area sorta makes sense from that context if you, you know, THINK ABOUT IT.
 
2012-11-02 05:35:42 PM  
KEEP F*CKING THAT CHICKEN REPUBLICANS!!!

You've failed to peddle your conspiratorial outrage about this crap for over 7 weeks now, but it should really catch on by Tuesday!!
 
2012-11-02 05:38:11 PM  
Agneska:

I like them French fried potaters.
 
2012-11-02 05:38:42 PM  

alizeran: Sadly, NPR is offering facts to intellectual giants like this:

"The buddhists are coming to take our religious freedoms".


Thanks for the depression. That's even too much stupid for a Friday night.
 
2012-11-02 05:39:11 PM  
I haven't been buying into the hysteria generated by Fox and others but I'm still irked by the mixed messages coming out of the White House and administration.

If the attacks were being so closely monitored and all options so carefully considered why was the "spontaneous demonstrations" and "anti-Muhammad film" crap still being pitched days after?

Obama cited an "act of terror" but that lacked the specificity of a coordinated attack by terrorists. In fact, he, Hillary and others in the administration kept pointing at the film.

All that seems even more deceptive in light of this story.
 
2012-11-02 05:40:37 PM  
"So Abu, how did the attack on the consulate go?"
"Oh well, enough, we killed a bunch of people, but I'm still not sure it was jusitified."
"Of course it was. Why according to the repub investigation in Congress, there was a CIA operation going on in the same building!"
"Really? Of course we suspected but we had no way to verify the situation."
"Worry no more! The repubs and this Fox News operation seems intent on providing us all the intelligence we could possibly need."
"Thank God our fellow terrorists control the House of Representatives in America!"
 
2012-11-02 05:40:53 PM  

Agneska: Why was the Obama admin trying to bamboozle Americans by saying that the attack was related to the video? Obama lied, Americans died.


Because the attack was in response to the video.

Ansar al Shariah, the group responsible, said that from day one, and continued to say that up until they were bombed/arrested out of existence last week, without a 10 year ground war or a patriot act or nothing.
 
2012-11-02 05:41:45 PM  

Agneska: If Fox wasn't asking questions and doing research, we wouldn't know any of this.


You are an excellent, patriotic consumer. Have a cookie.

i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-02 05:44:52 PM  

Kazan: cchris_39: Wow.

Even for state sponsored media NPR, that was pretty daming.

The article openly admits that we knew damn well what was happening even at it happened, but had no resources or clue how to respond.

it wasn't considered a hot theater of operations by the military or intelligence agencies, because it hadn't been for eons. the fact that we had scant resources in the area sorta makes sense from that context if you, you know, THINK ABOUT IT.


Give it up. Anyone with an IQ over 30 (and I know that leaves out the tea baggers) knows that an embassy is protected by the host country. You don't arm it like a military base. There is a reason why diplomats are sometimes called "soldiers without guns".
 
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