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(NPR)   Proof that Obama wasted time getting aid to the people in Benghazi, told them to stand down, and refused to send troops or air support. Oh, except he didn't, didn't, and didn't   (npr.org) divider line 374
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2012-11-02 04:41:22 PM

cannotsuggestaname: Metalupis: a few people I know on FB keep harping on this story, maybe this will get them to calm down (probably not)

ugh, I keep seeing insanity spewed by my right wing friends about this. One of them just posted this insane image about 15 minutes ago. I think I may need to unfriend some people, even though I have known them for a couple of decades.

[img.photobucket.com image 640x682]


I whittle the derpers off of my news feed. I didn't have the heart to unfriend my racist aunt even after she wrote a screed about blacks on welfare. Difficulty: my aunt has 4 children by different fathers and has spent much of her life on welfare.
 
2012-11-02 04:41:40 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Tigger: This will work and your team will win. Keep at it.

I'm guessing you mean winning as winning the election. Benghazi isn't going to affect the election.


I know it isn't but that doesn't stop the idiots who think it will bringing it up and being farkwits about it at every possible opportunity.
 
2012-11-02 04:41:42 PM

bdub77: I posted this in an earlier thread:

Let's look at major terror attacks under the past several administrations, shall we? Negating Iraq/Afghanistan which are war zones.

Reagan Years:
1983:
Lebanon: U.S. embassy is destroyed in suicide car-bomb attack; 63 dead, including 17 Americans. Same year and place, suicide bombers exploded truck near U.S. military barracks at Beirut airport, killing 241 marines.
Kuwait: shiate truck bombers attacked the U.S. embassy and other targets, killing 5 and injuring 80.

1985:
Rome: airports in Rome and Vienna were bombed, killing 20 people, 5 of whom were Americans. Bombing linked to Libya.

1986:
Greece: A bomb exploded aboard TWA flight 840 en route from Rome to Athens, killing 4 Americans and injuring 9.
Germany: Libyans bombed a disco frequented by U.S. servicemen, killing 2 and injuring hundreds.

1988:
Scotland: N.Y.-bound Pan-Am Boeing 747 exploded in flight from a terrorist bomb and crashed into Scottish village, killing all 259 aboard and 11 on the ground. Passengers included 35 Syracuse University students and many U.S. military personnel.

Reagan death toll: Quite a few deaths but no major attacks.

George HW Bush:

Well...pretty much zero. None cited that I saw. Good job!

Bush Sr. Death toll: Excellent, no major terror attacks.

Clinton:
1993:
New York: bomb exploded in basement garage of World Trade Center, killing 6 and injuring at least 1,040 others.

1995
Oklahoma City: car bomb exploded outside federal office building, collapsing wall and floors. 168 people were killed, including 19 children and 1 person who died in rescue effort.
Saudi Arabia: car bomb exploded at U.S. military headquarters, killing 5 U.S. military servicemen.

1996
Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds of others.

1998
Kenya and Tanzania: truck bombs exploded almost simultaneously near 2 U.S. embassies, killing 224 (213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania) and injurin ...



You realize the presidents above shows the course of 2 terms (outside of original Bush)
 
2012-11-02 04:43:45 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com 

Yea, nothing like that could ever happen if Romney was on watch.
 
2012-11-02 04:43:51 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The decision was made to go in. You go in. You don't leave people and material in harms way with help > 6 hours away. And yes, they could know it was going to take 6 hours when the shiat hit the fan. But you send what you got when the alarm rings.

They did send help, within 24 minutes. Say so right in the article.


That doesn't count because it wasn't the massive show of force the GOP thinks we needed for some reason.

I get the feeling they are trying to hype this up to get some impeachment stuff rolling. They also want to paint Obama as weak on defense or anti-US-GI's by denying them help. It's an invented narrative with no basis in reality.
 
2012-11-02 04:45:46 PM

Antimatter: I get the feeling they are trying to hype this up to get some impeachment stuff rolling.


They already have grounds for that. Obama came out just last week in favor of Yu-Gi-Oh over Pokemon. Yu-Gi-Oh isn't in the farking constitution.
 
2012-11-02 04:46:37 PM

Holocaust Agnostic: It doesn't count as terrorism


Oh? Why not, pray tell?
 
2012-11-02 04:46:54 PM

Rapmaster2000: I didn't have the heart to unfriend my racist aunt even after she wrote a screed about blacks on welfare. Difficulty: my aunt has 4 children by different fathers and has spent much of her life on welfare.


Bring that up in a comment to her screed and she'll probably do the unfriending for you!
 
2012-11-02 04:47:08 PM

TheBigJerk: Benghazi meme is forced meme.

[i75.photobucket.com image 640x640]


dude. loose the homophobia.
 
2012-11-02 04:48:33 PM
Took almost two months for Obama to bribe the entire CIA into lying and covering for him. Maybe he would've gotten it done sooner and gotten his lie out to America if he wasn't busy creating a hurricane and sabotaging our soldiers' weapons overseas.

/trickster president
 
2012-11-02 04:51:04 PM

cannotsuggestaname: Metalupis: a few people I know on FB keep harping on this story, maybe this will get them to calm down (probably not)

ugh, I keep seeing insanity spewed by my right wing friends about this. One of them just posted this insane image about 15 minutes ago. I think I may need to unfriend some people, even though I have known them for a couple of decades.

[img.photobucket.com image 640x682]


Dude/Dudette,
Life's too short to put up with crazy people. Purge!!

/Fox on Benghazi is like some tweeker on Walt's stuff obsessing over the inner workings of a toaster.
 
2012-11-02 04:51:06 PM
The freepers have taken to calling Obama "The Butcher of Benghazi".
 
2012-11-02 04:51:13 PM

Zapruder: Took almost two months for Obama to bribe the entire CIA into lying and covering for him.


I know you're trolling but part of me is frightened to think how many people actually believe this.
 
2012-11-02 04:51:26 PM

Taylor Mental: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 410x324] 

Yea, nothing like that could ever happen if Romney was on watch.


He would get out to sea through Syria.
 
2012-11-02 04:51:40 PM

Kazan: TheBigJerk: Benghazi meme is forced meme.

[i75.photobucket.com image 640x640]

dude. loose the homophobia.


Don't ever go to 4chan man....
 
2012-11-02 04:52:05 PM

BMulligan: Holocaust Agnostic: It doesn't count as terrorism

Oh? Why not, pray tell?


generally terrorism targets non-combatants.
 
2012-11-02 04:52:05 PM

Jackson Herring: Still though, you have to admit that Omaba bad black. Really bad black.



FTFY
 
2012-11-02 04:52:20 PM

sprawl15: Antimatter: I get the feeling they are trying to hype this up to get some impeachment stuff rolling.

They already have grounds for that. Obama came out just last week in favor of Yu-Gi-Oh over Pokemon. Yu-Gi-Oh isn't in the farking constitution.


it is however in the magna carta and on the rosetta stone
 
2012-11-02 04:52:48 PM

FarkedOver: Kazan: TheBigJerk: Benghazi meme is forced meme.

[i75.photobucket.com image 640x640]

dude. loose the homophobia.

Don't ever go to 4chan man....


no shiat, why would i wade in that cesspool.
 
2012-11-02 04:52:59 PM

ilambiquated: The freepers have taken to calling Obama "The Butcher of Benghazi".


That's hilarious.
/Someone 'shop up Obama-as-Texas-Chainsaw-guy and we're rolling
 
2012-11-02 04:53:40 PM
Why was the Obama admin trying to bamboozle Americans by saying that the attack was related to the video? Obama lied, Americans died.
 
2012-11-02 04:55:21 PM
Oh come on. NPR? All they have is Libfacts™.
 
2012-11-02 04:55:29 PM

Agneska: Why was the Obama admin trying to bamboozle Americans by saying that the attack was related to the video? Obama lied, Americans died.


The right way for him to word it would've been "The video sparked a riot, and that riot led to confusion and a smoke screen that the attackers saw as an opportunity. Then they struck."

Unfortunately, he didn't build that speech.
 
2012-11-02 04:55:32 PM

Kazan: FarkedOver: Kazan: TheBigJerk: Benghazi meme is forced meme.

[i75.photobucket.com image 640x640]

dude. loose the homophobia.

Don't ever go to 4chan man....

no shiat, why would i wade in that cesspool.


For the lulz of course.
 
2012-11-02 04:55:43 PM

Agneska: Why was the Obama admin trying to bamboozle Americans by saying that the attack was related to the video? Obama lied, Americans died.


The riots gave the terrorists the cover they needed. Obama always called it an act of terror, and as more details came to light the rest of the state department came to agree with that assessment.

The GOP is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill, while refusing to take similar responsibility for attacks under GOP administrations.
 
2012-11-02 04:55:48 PM

BMulligan: Holocaust Agnostic: It doesn't count as terrorism

Oh? Why not, pray tell?


Because words have meanings. However vile the perpetrators goals or methods, targets don't actually get any more legitimate than "a bunch of marines"
 
2012-11-02 04:56:07 PM

Agneska: Why was the Obama admin trying to bamboozle Americans by saying that the attack was related to the video? Obama lied, Americans died.


That's a good question. And one that the Bengahzi derpers can't seem to answer.

Maybe you can help us.
 
2012-11-02 04:56:07 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!: Oh come on. NPR? All they have is Libfacts™.


Nope, SOP for finding out about a possible unstable situation is to immediately launch all missiles in all directions. Gut Feelings will guide them on the right path!
 
2012-11-02 04:56:22 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!: Oh come on. NPR? All they have is Libfacts™.


NPR and liberals are all about those damn Realfacts. Conservatives prefer Goodfacts.
 
2012-11-02 04:57:33 PM
I got in a FB argument with my cousin's aunt about this. She ended up calling me stupid and fleeing the thread. And now I'm posting this there, mostly so my cousin sees it and doesn't fall for the derp attack of her aunt.
 
2012-11-02 04:58:07 PM
Now the cries of "Obama is leaking information for political purposes" in 3... 2... 1...
 
2012-11-02 04:58:20 PM

Agneska: Why was the Obama admin trying to bamboozle Americans by saying that the attack was related to the video? Obama lied, Americans died.


Oh, so because Obama didn't come right out and call it a terrorist attack Americans died?

Now I get the anger.
 
2012-11-02 04:58:59 PM

Empty Matchbook: Pants full of macaroni!!: Oh come on. NPR? All they have is Libfacts™.

Nope, SOP for finding out about a possible unstable situation is to immediately launch all missiles in all directions. Gut Feelings will guide them on the right path!


You mean to shoot first and aim later?
 
2012-11-02 04:59:05 PM

Zapruder: Agneska: Why was the Obama admin trying to bamboozle Americans by saying that the attack was related to the video? Obama lied, Americans died.

The right way for him to word it would've been "The video sparked a riot, and that riot led to confusion and a smoke screen that the attackers saw as an opportunity. Then they struck."

Unfortunately, he didn't build that speech.


Yes, that would have been a better speech. Straight talk. But that is not the type of man he is. He likes to avoid any issues that may in the slightest have negative consequences FOR HIM. Once again, he voted present and people got hurt.
 
2012-11-02 04:59:50 PM

ilambiquated: The freepers have taken to calling Obama "The Butcher of Benghazi".


Typical Freeper, can't even spell Ni**er right.
 
2012-11-02 05:01:01 PM

DeathBySmiley: Benghazi? What does Mr. Ghazi have to do with this?


On Fox and Friends tomorrow morning... evidence mounts that radical Islamist Ben Ghazi is Obama's real father.
 
2012-11-02 05:01:09 PM

Bag of Hammers: ilambiquated: The freepers have taken to calling Obama "The Butcher of Benghazi".

Typical Freeper, can't even spell Ni**er right.


You could've just stopped there.
 
2012-11-02 05:01:10 PM
The LA Times had an article debunking the Republican campaign's "Oh Mittgosh! Benghazi Is the Worst Thing EVAR and Chrysler's Shipping Jobs to China" tour a couple of weeks ago. Since then, there have been articles with the CIA debunking the OMBITWTEACSJTC tour. There have been articles with State Department officials, generals, and Condoleezza Rice debunking the OMBITWTEACSJTC tour at various times. (And Chrysler did some debunking, too.) It doesn't matter. Unless all the press unites in constantly pointing out Mitt's constant lies, they are complicit with Mitt.
 
2012-11-02 05:01:10 PM

Agneska: Why was the Obama admin trying to bamboozle Americans by saying that the attack was related to the video? Obama lied, Americans died.


They didn't know what the situation was. Hardly surprising that they didn't have 100% accurate intelligence half a world away as it was happening.

Even if they HAD, and Obama actually lied about the movie instead of simply being mistaken, the Americans were already dead by that point, so who exactly would be the Americans that died due to that particular lie?

/Much better if the faulty intelligence had led you into a decade long war against a country that had nothing to do with the attack right?
 
2012-11-02 05:01:48 PM

jasimo: /Fox on Benghazi is like some tweeker on Walt's stuff obsessing over the inner workings of a toaster.


It's nothing like that at all. The tweeker might actually be trying to understand the toaster.
 
2012-11-02 05:02:35 PM

miscreant: Agneska: Why was the Obama admin trying to bamboozle Americans by saying that the attack was related to the video? Obama lied, Americans died.

They didn't know what the situation was. Hardly surprising that they didn't have 100% accurate intelligence half a world away as it was happening.

Even if they HAD, and Obama actually lied about the movie instead of simply being mistaken, the Americans were already dead by that point, so who exactly would be the Americans that died due to that particular lie?

/Much better if the faulty intelligence had led you into a decade long war against a country that had nothing to do with the attack right?


What I don't get is what incentive did Obama have to lie about the cause of the attack?
 
2012-11-02 05:02:38 PM

AirForceVet: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Dusk-You-n-Me: Excellent article.

? Unnamed sources and no time line. Yeah, gold standard article.

And the article did point out that here was basically no help around. In Libya? If there wasn't then that in and of it self was a major farking screw up. No help less then 6 hours away?! Bull-shiat.

The article pointed out the Americans were heavily armed and supported by Lybian forces. What were you expecting us to have in Lybia? The Seventh Calvary? The 82nd Airborne?

/I'm not fond of armchair generals.


And a number of Libyans died defending the consulate. And then a mob of angry Libyans went after the militias and tried to get the Ambassador medical aid.

To me the whole thing sounds like a preplanned choice to avoid a heavy security apparatus and the feeling that Americans were occupying/forcing their will on a section of Benghazi. That's not a bad choice right there and honestly it appears to have worked in the long term given the backlash the religious militias faced after tearing up the consulate. Sadly in the process four Americans died. That sucks, but had we pissed off the locals and had them setting IEDs for our diplomatic convoys, likely more people die.

/state building messy and people die
 
2012-11-02 05:02:47 PM

thurstonxhowell: jasimo: /Fox on Benghazi is like some tweeker on Walt's stuff obsessing over the inner workings of a toaster.

It's nothing like that at all. The tweeker might actually be trying to understand the toaster.


Or at least not interrupting it while it's talking.
 
2012-11-02 05:04:16 PM

Agneska: Zapruder: Agneska: Why was the Obama admin trying to bamboozle Americans by saying that the attack was related to the video? Obama lied, Americans died.

The right way for him to word it would've been "The video sparked a riot, and that riot led to confusion and a smoke screen that the attackers saw as an opportunity. Then they struck."

Unfortunately, he didn't build that speech.

Yes, that would have been a better speech. Straight talk. But that is not the type of man he is. He likes to avoid any issues that may in the slightest have negative consequences FOR HIM. Once again, he voted present and people got hurt.


What on earth are you talking about? He avoided conclusive statements because the smoke hadn't cleared and no one knew exactly what had happened. Only a fool speaks in absolutes that early.

How would a different speech had saved lived that died the previous day?
 
2012-11-02 05:04:20 PM

Mrtraveler01: What I don't get is what incentive did Obama have to lie about the cause of the attack?


He wanted to look more foolish later on to give Romney a fighting chance.
 
2012-11-02 05:04:55 PM
Wow.

Even for state sponsored media NPR, that was pretty daming.

The article openly admits that we knew damn well what was happening even at it happened, but had no resources or clue how to respond.
 
2012-11-02 05:05:00 PM

FarkedOver: Kazan: FarkedOver: Kazan: TheBigJerk: Benghazi meme is forced meme.

[i75.photobucket.com image 640x640]

dude. loose the homophobia.

Don't ever go to 4chan man....

no shiat, why would i wade in that cesspool.

For the lulz of course.


For teh lulz: the only reason anyone ever did anything.
 
2012-11-02 05:06:17 PM

miscreant: Agneska: Why was the Obama admin trying to bamboozle Americans by saying that the attack was related to the video? Obama lied, Americans died.

They didn't know what the situation was. Hardly surprising that they didn't have 100% accurate intelligence half a world away as it was happening.

Even if they HAD, and Obama actually lied about the movie instead of simply being mistaken, the Americans were already dead by that point, so who exactly would be the Americans that died due to that particular lie?

/Much better if the faulty intelligence had led you into a decade long war against a country that had nothing to do with the attack right?


But why the lies? The obfuscation? If Fox wasn't asking questions and doing research, we wouldn't know any of this. This story isn't finished. There's more to it. You libbies criticized right wingers for marching along with George Bush like sheep. Now go look in the mirror.
 
2012-11-02 05:06:36 PM

Antimatter: What on earth are you talking about? He avoided conclusive statements because the smoke hadn't cleared and no one knew exactly what had happened. Only a fool speaks in absolutes that early.


That would've explained why Mitt Romney spoke in absolutes hours after the attack happened.
 
2012-11-02 05:06:36 PM

Mrtraveler01: Agneska: Why was the Obama admin trying to bamboozle Americans by saying that the attack was related to the video? Obama lied, Americans died.

That's a good question. And one that the Bengahzi derpers can't seem to answer.

Maybe you can help us.



The meme does not work, it should be Americans died, Obama tried to understand the chaotic situation in a short period of time and was pressed for a response.

But good question Agneska. Must have something to do with his goal of destroying america. Although blaming it on the Mohamed video does not go with the apeasing Muslims angle or trying to turn america into a Muslim state.

What are your speculation?
 
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