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2012-11-02 03:49:53 PM

internut scholar: CorporatePerson: Obama admitted it in his book, and anyone who's paid attention to how he's governed would see he's rather corporate friendly (as evidenced by Wall Street and corporate America's record profits).

I disagree, in politics you don't get to where you want to be in one day, or one administration. I think that Obama took a harder turn to the left than Bill Clinton did and more so than Hillary would have.


2.bp.blogspot.com

Link

Or just retarded.
 
2012-11-02 03:52:28 PM

internut scholar: Lenny_da_Hog: friend of mine is a policy wonk for a very large energy concern. He went to Munich two weeks ago for a conference with other energy producers.

They found out he was an American representative, and they swarmed on him. Every single one of them pleaded with him not to allow Romney to be elected, for the good of the world economy. They were scared to death of another GOP administration in the United States.

I don't doubt that is true. What may be good for other countries interests may not be a Romney presidency.

Seems to me if Romney would make good on his promise for North American energy independence, then that would be bad for European and Asian energy companies.

But I'm not voting for their president, I'm voting for POTUS.


This conversation can't be confirmed, and it's contradicted by some evidence and it doesn't say anything about the economies, leaders and legislative systems that Munich was immersed in during its two-year White Rose movement during the wind up to WWII.
 
2012-11-02 03:53:26 PM

lennavan: A Dark Evil Omen: lennavan: internut scholar: I disagree, in politics you don't get to where you want to be in one day, or one administration.

So, if I follow, Obama's great big Marxist Socialism plot is to get elected to a first term, pass absolutely nothing socialist at all to lull us into electing him to a second term where BAM-O he can hit us with some Kenyan Kommunism?

That's a very concerning thought you have there.

Well, the fact that has governed to the right of every president since Hoover is just proof that he's a double-secret Communist who will actually physically transform into Josef Stalin at the beginning of his second term, like some kind of mentally deficient Final Fantasy villain.

What a great reference, I actually just started playing through SNES Final Fantasy 3 for the first time in over a decade, yesterday. Although only because I couldn't find my copy of Earthbound.


I slopped an SNES emulator and an old FFV ROM onto my phone last week and I've been playing through that. Which leads me to the inescapable conclusion that Presifart Fartfarta is actually an evil, communist tree.
 
2012-11-02 03:53:45 PM

rufus-t-firefly: Citations?




I cited the president's own words, where he wanted to seek out the Marxists professors. It was in his book, I posted the referenced passage up thread.
 
2012-11-02 03:53:54 PM
I had a 5.9 GPA in university, IIRC.

My university used a 9-point GPA system though.

I'm not very smart.
 
2012-11-02 03:54:08 PM

internut scholar: lennavan: When you want to predict how someone will act, by all means go for it. But you're a farking moran if you're trying to predict how someone will act when you can actually look at how they acted.

I know what point you are trying to make, but we just have a different opinion on how he presided. To me, he did go hard left, just as I suspected he would.


Based on what? You can't have "differing opinions" about what actually happened.
 
2012-11-02 03:54:09 PM

internut scholar: Seems to me if Romney would make good on his promise for North American energy independence, then that would be bad for European and Asian energy companies.


If Romney made good on that promise, he would be a magician, as energy independence has and will continue to be a goal that is both impossible and yet still trumpeted by presidential candidates because it sounds good to the rubes.
 
2012-11-02 03:55:19 PM

internut scholar: CorporatePerson: So on a scale of 1 to 10 (1 being "that's silly" and 10 being "certainly a possibility") how likely do you think it is for President Obama to dismantle capitalism and implement a communist economic system in his second term?

0 it wouldn't happen.

That doens't mean I don't want to know what his ideology is.


I told someone else this, I'll tell you too. If Obama wins reelection the world will go on. I will be just fine. I just think Romney would do a better job as president.


In a vacuum you may be correct. Regardless of what partisans on either side think, they would probably be remarkably similar. I wouldn't discount that a Romney presidency would be better in theory.

However, in practice, my fear is him in office is that the far right will have a guy that will play ball with them. If you think that the Republican controlled House is anything less than a bizarre cesspoolish fusion of religious/economic zealotry then either you or I are living in a bizarre fantasy land. Regardless of if Republicans are more correct on the fiscal front or not, the fact that they are incapable of compromise or rational discussion makes them the real "dangerous radicals" Actions occurring today speak much louder than what may or may not have happened decades ago.
 
2012-11-02 03:55:21 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: FFV


Beat that biatch for the first time this past summer. I tell you, some of those boss fights puzzles are retarded. I think the expectation that you re-re-replay through a fight to do it correctly is only higher in the tactics games. And even then, only the most brutal of them.
 
2012-11-02 03:56:10 PM

internut scholar: lennavan: When you want to predict how someone will act, by all means go for it. But you're a farking moran if you're trying to predict how someone will act when you can actually look at how they acted.

I know what point you are trying to make, but we just have a different opinion on how he presided. To me, he did go hard left, just as I suspected he would.


No, you don't seem to understand the point I'm trying to make. We aren't arguing on how he presided. We're arguing about what evidence is relevant in drawing conclusions.

Mitt Romney bullied some kid long ago in high school. Mitt Romney was also in an elected executive office, he was the governor. To predict how Romney will act as POTUS, one of those is relevant and the other is not.

Barack Obama did some stuff long ago in college. He is also the current POTUS and has been for nearly four years. To predict how Obama will act as POTUS in the next term, one of those is relevant and the other is not.
 
2012-11-02 03:56:26 PM

internut scholar: I told someone else this, I'll tell you too. If Obama wins reelection the world will go on. I will be just fine. I just think Romney would do a better job as president.


When I voted for Obama in 2008 I expected that he would govern as a center left moderate. Which is exactly as he has done. With Romney - based on his record as Governor and how he has managed his campaign - I have absolutely no idea how he will govern. He has no moral base or character. So I voted for Obama again (absentee).

/go with the devil you know
 
2012-11-02 03:56:37 PM

internut scholar: rufus-t-firefly: Citations?
I cited the president's own words, where he wanted to seek out the Marxists professors. It was in his book, I posted the referenced passage up thread.


And yet you still can't produce any evidence that he took a hard left as president.

Are you sure you're not just trolling everybody?
 
2012-11-02 03:57:19 PM

BeesNuts: This conversation can't be confirmed, and it's contradicted by some evidence and it doesn't say anything about the economies, leaders and legislative systems that Munich was immersed in during its two-year White Rose movement during the wind up to WWII.


(I see what you're lolling there, but to clarify...)

It was an international conference. He said reps from Asia and Europe were all telling him the same thing, with heavy emotion.
 
2012-11-02 03:58:31 PM

internut scholar: rufus-t-firefly: Citations?



I cited the president's own words, where he wanted to seek out the Marxists professors. It was in his book, I posted the referenced passage up thread.


The premise of your argument is "words are louder than actions." Who cares what Obama actually did for four years, check out these words he wrote about himself from decades ago. You're fundamentally stupid.
 
2012-11-02 03:59:37 PM

BeesNuts: A Dark Evil Omen: FFV

Beat that biatch for the first time this past summer. I tell you, some of those boss fights puzzles are retarded. I think the expectation that you re-re-replay through a fight to do it correctly is only higher in the tactics games. And even then, only the most brutal of them.


No joke, it's hard! I haven't done so much grinding in a CRPG since... well, since SNES games were current. One thing I like is that while it definitely expects you to replay things over and over, it does it in a fair way. It's really low on bullshiat difficulty; if there's no reason to expect you need a particular job for a boss, it won't throw that expectation at you, the bosses don't do things like require you to cast Wall before a new phase happens, etc. It's fair difficulty and that makes it so much worse losing.
 
2012-11-02 04:01:02 PM

CorporatePerson: internut scholar: rufus-t-firefly: Citations?
I cited the president's own words, where he wanted to seek out the Marxists professors. It was in his book, I posted the referenced passage up thread.

And yet you still can't produce any evidence that he took a hard left as president.

Are you sure you're not just trolling everybody?


Don't recall seeing the handle on the Politics tab before.
Got-damn trolls.

i865.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-02 04:02:03 PM

CorporatePerson: internut scholar: rufus-t-firefly: Citations?
I cited the president's own words, where he wanted to seek out the Marxists professors. It was in his book, I posted the referenced passage up thread.

And yet you still can't produce any evidence that he took a hard left as president.

Are you sure you're not just trolling everybody?


Occam's Razor applies here.
 
2012-11-02 04:02:03 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: BeesNuts: This conversation can't be confirmed, and it's contradicted by some evidence and it doesn't say anything about the economies, leaders and legislative systems that Munich was immersed in during its two-year White Rose movement during the wind up to WWII.

(I see what you're lolling there, but to clarify...)

It was an international conference. He said reps from Asia and Europe were all telling him the same thing, with heavy emotion.


/I do actually believe that conversation, or some facsimile thereof, occurred.
//Mostly because outside of the weird press bubble we have in the US, people actually get to hear the things the two candidates are saying.
///And one of them is being soundly ridiculed for failing to hold any coherent opinion aside from "I want to be president now."
 
2012-11-02 04:02:20 PM

internut scholar: CorporatePerson: but they're sure he studied dangerous liberal ideas,

Do you know how they know this? Because Obama admitted as much in his own book:

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structured feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night in the dorms, we discussed neocolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpets or set our stereos so loud the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society's stifling conventions. We weren't indifferent, or careless, or insecure. We were alienated.

But this strategy alone couldn't provide the distance I wanted, from Joyce or my past. After all, there were thousands of so called campus radicals, most of them white and tenured and happily tolerant. No, it remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

Barrack Obama - Dreams of My Father, page 101


If we can believe Paul Ryan doesn't REALLY subscribe to Ayn Rand's philosophy, despite being on record as saying this, just 7 years ago:

(1:45) I just want to speak to you a little bit about Ayn Rand and what she meant to me in my life and [in] the fight we're engaged here in Congress. I grew up on Ayn Rand, that's what I tell people..you know everybody does their soul-searching, and trying to find out who they are and what they believe, and you learn about yourself.

(2:01) I grew up reading Ayn Rand and it taught me quite a bit about who I am and what my value systems are, and what my beliefs are. It's inspired me so much that it's required reading in my office for all my interns and my staff. We start with Atlas Shrugged. People tell me I need to start with The Fountainhead then go to Atlas Shrugged [laughter]. There's a big debate about that. We go to Fountainhead, but then we move on, and we require Mises and Hayek as well.

"I always go back to... Francisco d'Anconia's speech [in Atlas Shrugged] on money when I think about monetary policy."
(2:23) But the reason I got involved in public service, by and large, if I had to credit one thinker, one person, it would be Ayn Rand. And the fight we are in here, make no mistake about it, is a fight of individualism versus collectivism.

(2:38) In almost every fight we are involved in here, on Capitol Hill, whether it's an amendment vote that I'll take later on this afternoon, or a big piece of policy we're putting through our Ways and Means Committee, it is a fight that usually comes down to one conflict: individualism vs. collectivism.

(2:54) And so when you take a look at where we are today, ah, some would say we're on offense, some would say we're on defense, I'd say it's a little bit of both. And when you look at the twentieth-century experiment with collectivism-that Ayn Rand, more than anybody else, did such a good job of articulating the pitfalls of statism and collectivism-you can't find another thinker or writer who did a better job of describing and laying out the moral case for capitalism than Ayn Rand.

(3: 21) It's so important that we go back to our roots to look at Ayn Rand's vision, her writings, to see what our girding, under-grounding [sic] principles are. I always go back to, you know, Francisco d'Anconia's speech (at Bill Taggart's wedding) on money when I think about monetary policy. And then I go to the 64-page John Galt speech, you know, on the radio at the end, and go back to a lot of other things that she did, to try and make sure that I can check my premises so that I know that what I'm believing and doing and advancing are square with the key principles of individualism...

(6:53) Is this an easy fight? Absolutely not...But if we're going to actually win this we need to make sure that we're solid on premises, that our principles are well-defended, and if we want to go and articulately defend these principles and what they mean to our society, what they mean for the trends that we set internationally, we have to go back to Ayn Rand. Because there is no better place to find the moral case for capitalism and individualism than through Ayn Rand's writings and works.


Just because Obama studied and discussed certain subjects (as he says, in an attempt to fit in) doesn't mean he subscribed to them.

Paul Ryan, on the other hand, actually required his staff to read Ayn Rand. But he now says he doesn't really think all that stuff that he said recently. Things like "

"In almost every fight we are involved in here, on Capitol Hill...it is a fight that usually comes down to one conflict: individualism vs. collectivism...That is why there is no more fight that is more obvious between the differences of these two conflicts than Social Security. Social Security right now is a collectivist system, it's a welfare transfer system."

Nah, that's fine. But Obama consorted with radicals in college! HORROR!
 
2012-11-02 04:04:27 PM

lennavan: internut scholar: rufus-t-firefly: Citations?

I cited the president's own words, where he wanted to seek out the Marxists professors. It was in his book, I posted the referenced passage up thread.

The premise of your argument is "words are louder than actions." Who cares what Obama actually did for four years, check out these words he wrote about himself from decades ago. You're fundamentally stupid.


Oh...well, that settles it then. Do we want an Objectivist Ayn Rand devotee a heartbeat away from the presidency? We've seen Paul Ryan's Objectivist beliefs in both words AND deeds. Yet you found one sentence where Obama mentioned Marxist professors in one of his books, and THAT is supposed to be damning.
 
2012-11-02 04:05:07 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: BeesNuts: A Dark Evil Omen: FFV

Beat that biatch for the first time this past summer. I tell you, some of those boss fights puzzles are retarded. I think the expectation that you re-re-replay through a fight to do it correctly is only higher in the tactics games. And even then, only the most brutal of them.

No joke, it's hard! I haven't done so much grinding in a CRPG since... well, since SNES games were current. One thing I like is that while it definitely expects you to replay things over and over, it does it in a fair way. It's really low on bullshiat difficulty; if there's no reason to expect you need a particular job for a boss, it won't throw that expectation at you, the bosses don't do things like require you to cast Wall before a new phase happens, etc. It's fair difficulty and that makes it so much worse losing.


idk. Those bomb bosses where you have to kill all of them at once, or any remaining dude will just ressurect all of his friends are bunk. And in the very last area (literally, the last screen before you fight ex-death) there's a boss you can optionally fight. I have never beaten him, and I made neo-ex-death look like little orphan annie.

Otherwise, yep. It's all job management and good planning. If you can't win, it's because you weren't doing the fight properly, not because your just underleveled. Really well made game.
 
2012-11-02 04:05:13 PM

rufus-t-firefly: lennavan: internut scholar: rufus-t-firefly: Citations?

I cited the president's own words, where he wanted to seek out the Marxists professors. It was in his book, I posted the referenced passage up thread.

The premise of your argument is "words are louder than actions." Who cares what Obama actually did for four years, check out these words he wrote about himself from decades ago. You're fundamentally stupid.

Oh...well, that settles it then. Do we want an Objectivist Ayn Rand devotee a heartbeat away from the presidency? We've seen Paul Ryan's Objectivist beliefs in both words AND deeds. Yet you found one sentence where Obama mentioned Marxist professors in one of his books, and THAT is supposed to be damning.


Not YOU, lennavan...the "scholar."
 
2012-11-02 04:05:26 PM

CorporatePerson: internut scholar: rufus-t-firefly: Citations?
I cited the president's own words, where he wanted to seek out the Marxists professors. It was in his book, I posted the referenced passage up thread.

And yet you still can't produce any evidence that he took a hard left as president.

Are you sure you're not just trolling everybody?


Well duh, not continuing our dismal march to the extreme right == a hard left
 
2012-11-02 04:10:47 PM
If Obama has Marxist leanings because of a few sentences, then Paul Ryan is a hardcore Objectivist because of a detailed speech and policy proposals.

I'd rather trust someone with Marxist "sympathies" than someone who was devoted to Ayn Rand enough to give a speech to THE ATLAS SOCIETY and require his staff read her books. Oh, and give the books as gifts.

Do anyone have proof of Obama giving out copies of the Communist Manifesto, or requiring his staff to read it? How about giving a speech to a Communist Party USA convention?
 
2012-11-02 04:12:08 PM

Jim_Callahan: Batman could beat Superman in a fight


Of course he could, but would Batman let Superman know that he could?
 
2012-11-02 04:14:56 PM

CorporatePerson: internut scholar: rufus-t-firefly: Citations?
I cited the president's own words, where he wanted to seek out the Marxists professors. It was in his book, I posted the referenced passage up thread.

And yet you still can't produce any evidence that he took a hard left as president.

Are you sure you're not just trolling everybody?



I knew eventually I would be labeled a troll. Listen fellas there are like 20 of you and one of me. I am already way off topic of my original point. Which was, I don't think you guys are right when you scream racism because someone wants to know something about a politician's back ground. I don't discount that there are racists that would use anything to get the "N word" out of there. I know they exists. But they exists on both sides of the isle.
Sometimes people just want some background information.
 
2012-11-02 04:16:32 PM
Dear Racists:

Even if Obama was a beneficiary of affirmative action... that beneficiary of affirmative action went on to become the Editor in Chief of the Harvard Law Review, graduated Magna Cum Laude with his Juris Doctorate, and went on to become PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. He would therefore be PROOF that affirmative action works Expand the programs!!
 
2012-11-02 04:19:28 PM

ultraholland: FlashHarry: so, this is your line of attack - that obama is stupid? really? your'e going with that?

No, that's not it at all. We all know that he's intelligent; I mean the man's a diabolical genius for christ's sake. The low GPA shows that during his college career he was extremely lazy, and perhaps shiftless.


Was he at any point uppity?
 
2012-11-02 04:20:17 PM

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Dear Racists:

Even if Obama was a beneficiary of affirmative action... that beneficiary of affirmative action went on to become the Editor in Chief of the Harvard Law Review, graduated Magna Cum Laude with his Juris Doctorate, and went on to become PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. He would therefore be PROOF that affirmative action works Expand the programs!!


Bolding and SHOUTING a lovely strawman argument based on an unsubstantiated claim.

THAT people, is how you do the Political tab right.
 
2012-11-02 04:23:37 PM

rufus-t-firefly: If Obama has Marxist leanings because of a few sentences, then Paul Ryan is a hardcore Objectivist because of a detailed speech and policy proposals.

I'd rather trust someone with Marxist "sympathies" than someone who was devoted to Ayn Rand enough to give a speech to THE ATLAS SOCIETY and require his staff read her books. Oh, and give the books as gifts.


Good, that is exactly what I want. People should get exactly who they vote for. If that's how you think, be honest about it. I'm pretty right wing. I don't deny it.
 
2012-11-02 04:26:26 PM

internut scholar: I knew eventually I would be labeled a troll. Listen fellas there are like 20 of you and one of me. I am already way off topic of my original point. Which was, I don't think you guys are right when you scream racism because someone wants to know something about a politician's back ground. I don't discount that there are racists that would use anything to get the "N word" out of there. I know they exists. But they exists on both sides of the isle.
Sometimes people just want some background information.


Still waiting for you to provide an example of one of these "hard lefts" Obama took which is causing you to vote for Romney.
 
2012-11-02 04:27:11 PM

internut scholar: Dr Dreidel: I read Karl Marx in a college class the week before we read Reagan's Challenger speech.

Did you also chose your friends carefully? Were you resisting bourgeois society's stifling conventions?


I like to think I choose (still) my friends carefully. And yes, I delight in subverting or defying social conventions. Of course, I'm an IT guy with a ponytail, so...

Maybe none of that bothers you, perhaps you are more sympathetic to Marxism than another voter?

Probably. Marx was on to something, sociologically speaking (his economics...rely a bit on altruism and people spontaneously spurning greedy or political-power-consolidating tendencies). But I recognize that I'm more liberal than many voters (I'd put myself at around a 70, if 0 is "full-on fascism" and 100 is "pure Marxism"). I've also got a libertarian streak, as I suspect many of us do (even if we don't like calling it that). So what?

And even if Obama was a full-on Marxist (which is a very silly postulate), he was duly elected. The fact that a Marxist is polling so well after a full Marxist term would seem to indicate that Americans are fine with Marxism, and YOU'RE out of touch (or, that Obama is as "out-of-touch" as half of America). But again, Obama's been as right/center-right as Clinton (probably righter)

I understand that most people here have absolutely no problem with Obama's passage in his book. But that wasn't my original point.

I was pointing out that there are reasons to want to look at the presidents records other than racism.


Because of who he was in college? Yeah, run with that. Apply that same dogged research-based criticism of all presidential candidates. For funsies, do it historically - you review their college lives, I'll review their political records. Let's see which one of us can better match a president with their policies.
 
2012-11-02 04:28:30 PM

internut scholar: CorporatePerson: internut scholar: rufus-t-firefly: Citations?
I cited the president's own words, where he wanted to seek out the Marxists professors. It was in his book, I posted the referenced passage up thread.

And yet you still can't produce any evidence that he took a hard left as president.

Are you sure you're not just trolling everybody?


I knew eventually I would be labeled a troll. Listen fellas there are like 20 of you and one of me. I am already way off topic of my original point. Which was, I don't think you guys are right when you scream racism because someone wants to know something about a politician's back ground. I don't discount that there are racists that would use anything to get the "N word" out of there. I know they exists. But they exists on both sides of the isle.
Sometimes people just want some background information.


NO one is screaming racism. Your premise of Obama "veering left" is being questioned.
Did you click on the farking link?

Here, I'l make it easy for you.

Link


Obama has embraced virtually every significant aspect of Bush's national security strategy. The current administration has signed off on warrantless wiretapping and has claimed the authority to start wars even in the face of explicit congressional opposition. The White House has hid behind a shroud of extreme secrecy, invoking the Espionage Act against whistleblowers and stonewalling torture investigation by revising the Freedom of Information Act through executive order. The FBI has continued its crackdown on dissenters and infiltrations of peaceful political groups. Obama has even formalized the most extreme Bush-era claim of executive power -- the authority to detain American citizens indefinitely without charge. His administration has gone even further to claim the president can kill any suspected terrorist in the world by drone bombing, describing his personal mental calculation over such decisions as "due process."


Sounds like a Pinko Commie Marxist -Leftist to me.
 
2012-11-02 04:29:10 PM

internut scholar: rufus-t-firefly: If Obama has Marxist leanings because of a few sentences, then Paul Ryan is a hardcore Objectivist because of a detailed speech and policy proposals.

I'd rather trust someone with Marxist "sympathies" than someone who was devoted to Ayn Rand enough to give a speech to THE ATLAS SOCIETY and require his staff read her books. Oh, and give the books as gifts.

Good, that is exactly what I want. People should get exactly who they vote for. If that's how you think, be honest about it. I'm pretty right wing. I don't deny it.


The point. You missed it.

Unless you're completely fine with Ayn Rand and her "Virtue of Selfishness," in which case I truly hope you never are in need through no fault of your own.
 
2012-11-02 04:30:32 PM

rufus-t-firefly: Oh...well, that settles it then. Do we want an Objectivist Ayn Rand devotee a heartbeat away from the presidency?


Actually yes I would.

See? That's not so hard. Just say what you mean, if other people like it they will follow you.

Why is it that the left always have to reword every program and objective they have? I don't care that Obama gravitated towards leftist his whole life I just want people to know about it so that they can make their own judgment call. If that works for you then do it, if not, at least you know.
 
2012-11-02 04:32:45 PM

bikerific: If you are into middle age and still listing your GPA on your resume, that's not really a good sign.


Not if that's when you got your degrees. Then a good GPA should be seen as more of an accomplishment due to the fact that by the time you've reached middle age, life is a lot more complicated and busy place than when you were an 18 year old kid.

/class of 2012
//bachelor's and associate degrees
///magna cum laude, 2 national honor societies
///dean's and president's lists every semester but two
///pissed all those kids off that an old guy was whipping their asses
 
2012-11-02 04:34:14 PM

kregh99: Romney wears magic underpants and talks to invisible people.


Well, anyone who runs for national office in the USA has to profess SOME sort of religious belief. It's just how we roll...
 
2012-11-02 04:34:40 PM

internut scholar: rufus-t-firefly: Oh...well, that settles it then. Do we want an Objectivist Ayn Rand devotee a heartbeat away from the presidency?

Actually yes I would.

See? That's not so hard. Just say what you mean, if other people like it they will follow you..


So why is Paul Ryan trying to pretend that he never meant any of those things that he has said? And why should we not hold that against him?

Oh, and I couldn't help but notice that in your profile (being a new arrival to the Politics thread, a lot of us probably made sure your account wasn't a day old), you say you like "helping people out."

So, you're either trolling in this thread, or you're not exactly living up to that whole selfishness "virtue."
 
2012-11-02 04:35:02 PM

internut scholar: Actually yes I would.

See? That's not so hard. Just say what you mean, if other people like it they will follow you.


For the past 4 years, Obama has sold himself as a moderate centrist and has governed like one too. I am voting for him expecting 4 more years of this behavior.

Why do you keep saying he's being dishonest by not selling himself as a Marxist radical liberal? Where is this dramatic left turn you keep referring to? The only evidence you're providing is a paragraph from his book about the time he was in college.

You can just admit that and speculation is all you got.
 
2012-11-02 04:35:33 PM

internut scholar: I don't care that Obama gravitated towards leftist his whole life I just want people to know about it so that they can make their own judgment call. If that works for you then do it, if not, at least you know.


No one on the left thinks he gravited left. He's a centrist. You have no farking clue what you're talking about. I didn't vote for him in the 2008 primary.
 
2012-11-02 04:37:59 PM

lennavan: internut scholar: I don't care that Obama gravitated towards leftist his whole life I just want people to know about it so that they can make their own judgment call. If that works for you then do it, if not, at least you know.

No one on the left thinks he gravited left. He's a centrist. You have no farking clue what you're talking about. I didn't vote for him in the 2008 primary.


I'm in Texas. I was seriously tempted to vote Green since, you know, my vote means jack shiat. But I have come to despise the Teabaggers and the Evangelicals who have put aside their hatred of Mormonism so they can "take their country back that I voted Obama because anyone they hate so much has to have a lot going for him.

If anyone can tell you that Obama is no leftist, it's a leftist.
 
2012-11-02 04:38:05 PM
www.lolbrary.com
 
2012-11-02 04:39:13 PM

for good or for awesome: CorporatePerson: They'll swear Obama's clearly borderline retarded, and the only sensible conclusion is that he got into Harvard because he was unfairly handed an opportunity that should have gone to a smarter, more qualified white person.

I just don't get this. They have what, a handful of gaffs? A teleprompter that every politician uses? How are they seeing him a stupid?


Simple. They see all blah people as stupid. The fact that one of them is the president and leader of the free world galls morans like this to no end, because the thought of someone so obviously inferior to them being any sort of leader is something their tiny little minds cannot reconcile.
 
2012-11-02 04:39:41 PM

Maud Dib: NO one is screaming racism. Your premise of Obama "veering left" is being questioned.


Look, I understand the demographics here. Many people here don't believe that Obama is a leftist. I keep hearing center left. I believe that most commenters here are left of Mao. So when I start pointing out programs that I don't like, you won't understand my point of view. So why bother?


As far as your link, I don't like any of that either.
So maybe we can agree on something.
Sounds like a Pinko Commie Marxist -Leftist to me.



Sounds too authoritarian to me for a supposedly free country.
 
2012-11-02 04:39:45 PM

internut scholar: Obama gravitated towards leftist his whole life


When the fark is he actually going to get there? He's to the right of center now, so when can we expect him to reach his destination?
 
2012-11-02 04:40:16 PM

hdhale: speak of the debt about the only thing Obama seems capable of doing with it is making it bigger. Time for a change.


1) Defund Planned Parenthood.
2) Defund the CPB.
3) Moar tax cuts for the rich.
4) Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran!
5) ???
6) Balanced budget!
 
2012-11-02 04:42:41 PM

internut scholar: rufus-t-firefly: Citations?

I cited the president's own words, where he wanted to seek out the Marxists professors. It was in his book, I posted the referenced passage up thread.


"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structured feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night in the dorms, we discussed neocolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpets or set our stereos so loud the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society's stifling conventions. We weren't indifferent, or careless, or insecure. We were alienated.

But this strategy alone couldn't provide the distance I wanted, from Joyce or my past. After all, there were thousands of so called campus radicals, most of them white and tenured and happily tolerant. No, it remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

It seems disingeuous and/or misleading to state baldly that "he wanted to seek out the Marxists (sic) professors" when that was one group in a laundry list of outsiders he named to illustrate his thinking at the time. Context matters.
 
2012-11-02 04:44:58 PM

rufus-t-firefly: So, you're either trolling in this thread, or you're not exactly living up to that whole selfishness "virtue."


Dude, if you needed a hand I would be the 1st to help you out. In fact I'm probably headed over to NJ tomorrow morning to volunteer.

I normally don't comment in the politic tab. Guess why?
 
2012-11-02 04:47:19 PM

internut scholar: rufus-t-firefly: So, you're either trolling in this thread, or you're not exactly living up to that whole selfishness "virtue."

Dude, if you needed a hand I would be the 1st to help you out. In fact I'm probably headed over to NJ tomorrow morning to volunteer.

I normally don't comment in the politic tab. Guess why?


Because you just say a bunch of baseless nonsense and deflect away when someone asks you to back up your words with examples?
 
2012-11-02 04:48:28 PM

rufus-t-firefly: right of center now


What? Oh come on. Fark, what am I then?
 
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