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(The Atlantic)   US government official says he "absolutely" believes there is life on other planets   (theatlantic.com) divider line 39
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2012-11-02 11:14:15 AM
8 votes:

keiverarrow: we've never even been able to communicate effectively with the domestic house cat


I think we have, but the cats can't be bothered to respond. One day, however, Fluffy is going to wake me up, look me in the eye and say "Look Steve, you gotta get your shiat together man. Seriously dude, the f*ck?" When I tell her my name's not "Steve", she'll turn around and take a dump on my bed.
2012-11-02 11:29:25 AM
6 votes:
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2012-11-02 10:45:43 AM
5 votes:
Statistically, it's ridiculous to argue otherwise. However, it should be noted that we've never even been able to communicate effectively with the domestic house cat, among the other creatures our planet has to offer. Let's hope they're more like dogs if we ever meet any.
2012-11-02 02:59:23 PM
4 votes:

Great Janitor: The dumbest argument for not believing in aliens was a girl who said "The bible doesn't mention aliens so they aren't real." I responded with "Penguins."


Sorry, bud, penguins don't mention aliens either.
2012-11-02 02:40:38 PM
4 votes:

keiverarrow: However, it should be noted that we've never even been able to communicate effectively with the domestic house cat


Darmok and Jalad at the Litterbox.
2012-11-02 02:39:42 PM
3 votes:

indarwinsshadow: Our journey has been so unique, what're the odds of anything going through the same process to get where we are.


Astronomical.
2012-11-02 02:26:49 PM
3 votes:

keiverarrow: However, it should be noted that we've never even been able to communicate effectively with the domestic house cat.


And yet so many people have been enslaved by them.
2012-11-02 03:47:29 PM
2 votes:

No Such Agency: *EXTRATERRESTRIALS ARRIVE*
"Take us to your planetary representative"
*UN Secretary General greets them*
*ALIENS SNIFF HIS/HER GROIN*


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2012-11-02 03:05:44 PM
2 votes:

Magnanimous_J: If nothing is truly impossible, just highly improbable, but time is infinite, then wouldn't everything possible have already happened infinite times before?


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2012-11-02 02:56:48 PM
2 votes:
The dumbest argument for not believing in aliens was a girl who said "The bible doesn't mention aliens so they aren't real." I responded with "Penguins."
2012-11-02 02:38:44 PM
2 votes:

Counter_Intelligent: I'm of the opinion that if we do ever meet extraterrestrial intelligence, it'll be just as retarded as we are.


Or even moreso.

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2012-11-02 02:38:20 PM
2 votes:
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2012-11-02 02:33:46 PM
2 votes:

cwolf20: Or cats have never been able to find intelligent humans to communicate effectively with.


Flawed:

animal.discovery.com
2012-11-02 02:33:00 PM
2 votes:
I imagine a conversation with alien intelligence going something like this...

"Morning sir, or madam, or neuter," the thing said. "This your planet, is it?"
"Well, er. I suppose so," Newt said.
"Had it long, have we sir?"
"Not personally. I mean, as a species, about half a million years. I think."
The alien exchanged glances with its colleague.
"Been letting the old acid rain build up, haven't we sir," it said. "Been letting ourselves go a bit with the old hydrocarbons, perhaps?"
"I'm sorry?"
"Well, I'm sorry to have to tell you, sir, but your polar ice caps are below regulation size for a planet of this category, sir."
"Oh, dear," said Newt.
"We'll overlook it on this occasion, sir."
The smaller alien walked past the car. "CO2 level up nought point five percent," it rasped, giving him a meaningful look. "You do know you could find yourself charged with being a dominant species while under the influence of impulse-driven consumerism, don't you?"


― Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett (Good Omens)
2012-11-02 02:32:11 PM
2 votes:
keiverarrow [TotalFark]
2012-11-02 10:45:43 AM

Statistically, it's ridiculous to argue otherwise. However, it should be noted that we've never even been able to communicate effectively with the domestic house cat, among the other creatures our planet has to offer. Let's hope they're more like dogs if we ever meet any.


Or cats have never been able to find intelligent humans to communicate effectively with.
2012-11-02 02:26:20 PM
2 votes:
unless that life has big ol' green space titties and needs a solid earth-dicking, I don't really care.
2012-11-02 02:21:59 PM
2 votes:

exick: FlashHarry: the universe is almost infinitely big and 14 billion years old. to think we're the only planet to develop intelligence is just incredibly improbable. however, this vastness also means that it's incredibly improbable that we'll ever contact another intelligent species.

The likelihood of any other intelligent species being too far away to contact, the possibility of them not being advanced enough to have the ability to receive any sort of radio communication, let alone of the interplanetary variety, and of having no way of interpreting each other's communications anyway makes me sad.


Also, they could be religious fanatics who have shunned science, and only gaze upwards in fear to interpret signs of their impending doom.

But then I guess we really couldn't call them "intelligent", could we?
2012-11-02 01:02:10 PM
2 votes:
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2012-11-02 05:43:58 PM
1 votes:

T.rex: Why? break it down... infinite... infinite possibilities. There are infinite things that will happen once, infinite things that will happen twice, three times up to infinity times.... Why wouldn't there be? If you're not putting a cap on any scenario, then the scenario of something happening a single time is just as valid as it happening an infinity times.


First, let me apologize for being contrite above.

Any time you bring an infinite number of trials into the argument, there can be no finite results. Literally, every single possible outcome will occur an infinite number of times. In the case of the trillion grains of sand argument which you presented earlier, this would mean that they would fall in every possible distribution an infinite number of times; they could not fall in the exact same manner once for an infinite number of times, because "once" is finite. Either you tried your experiment a finite amount of times, or you achieved the same result infinitely.

Understand that I'm not arguing that it's impossible that this is, in fact, the only body of matter in this universe which harbors life. The probability of that is extremely small, but is not absolute zero at this (or any) particular instant in our timeline. My point was that your sand statement was flawed if you allow for an infinite number of tries. And regardless of whether or not Earth harbored 100% of all life in the universe when I typed that sentence, that does not mean that it does now, nor that it did before I typed that sentence; in fact, given an infinite timeline with an infinite number of possibilities, we both blinked out of existence an infinite number of times since I started typing this thought, and we both remain existent an infinite number of times as well.

That's the glory and wonder of infinity, and what makes it so difficult to grasp. Of course, if we are indeed part of infinite universe/multiverse/whatever and/or on an infinite timeline, then there's also an infinite possibility that I'm grasping the concept entirely incorrectly. And correctly.
2012-11-02 04:24:50 PM
1 votes:

muck4doo: Aliens killed off the dinosaurs. We're next.


but what if I don't want to kill the dinosaurs.
2012-11-02 04:21:45 PM
1 votes:

Harv72b: Harv72b: You do understand the difference between a statistical probability and a fairy tail, yes?

Shut up, fairies have tails and nobody can convince me otherwise.


It's Ferry tale!!!! Jesus!!!! You know like boat stories.
2012-11-02 04:10:51 PM
1 votes:

titwrench: ciberido: titwrench: Great Janitor: The dumbest argument for not believing in aliens was a girl who said "The bible doesn't mention aliens so they aren't real." I responded with "Penguins."

That is going to be my rebuttal for every argument from now on.

What do you expect from flightless birds who live in The Land without Bears? 

I still find it remarkable that an entire continent is named after the fact that there aren't any bears there. i mean, we don't call North America NoGiraffestan.

Fark you. Penguins.

/just trying it out


I need to bookmark this thread. That way, months from now, my wife will be reading comments on like a politics tab thread and ask "When did 'Derp' get replaced by 'Fark you: Penguins'." and I can say "It's my fault." and when she doesn't believe me she can read this thread.
2012-11-02 03:58:31 PM
1 votes:
Yes, the ETs have been here. They are bending the rules by coming, so they stay in stealth-mode. They say that we're far from joining the federation until we can stop killing each other. Folks always say that the ETs communicate telepathically. Two ships have been captured one on the west coast the other at Wright-Patterson. We think they are a kind of portable worm-hole.

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2012-11-02 03:16:44 PM
1 votes:
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How much of my DNA do you need, and how soon do you need it?
2012-11-02 03:10:36 PM
1 votes:
Or I want them to have evolved on a crazy huge planet with a ridiculous amount of resources so when they dock their ship on our planet it destroys a continent and when they step out thousands get crushed as we pointlessly fire bullets at them.
2012-11-02 02:58:04 PM
1 votes:
Wait, wait.

You're telling me that a Director at NASA is delivering a message consistent with the justification for NASA's very existence and continued funding?!? Someone, please catch me before I faint from shock.
2012-11-02 02:54:20 PM
1 votes:
www.eskimo.com
Gary Shandling and Bob Newhart are no longer allowed out without their human make-up
2012-11-02 02:53:38 PM
1 votes:
YO!

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2012-11-02 02:47:20 PM
1 votes:
i.telegraph.co.uk
President Nixon enjoys a very special episode of Hee-Haw on the Official Presidential TV

They never told him that the Moon Landing was faked in a studeo, for fear of what else he would fake if he knew Hollywood had the know-how.
2012-11-02 02:43:20 PM
1 votes:

FlashHarry: keiverarrow: Statistically, it's ridiculous to argue otherwise. However, it should be noted that we've never even been able to communicate effectively with the domestic house cat, among the other creatures our planet has to offer. Let's hope they're more like dogs if we ever meet any.

done in one.

the universe is almost infinitely big and 14 billion years old. to think we're the only planet to develop intelligence is just incredibly improbable. however, this vastness also means that it's incredibly improbable that we'll ever contact another intelligent species.


Start the Improbability Drive we need to be to FTL pronto.
2012-11-02 02:41:21 PM
1 votes:
Wake me up when we find an abundance of intelligent life in the US government.
2012-11-02 02:40:37 PM
1 votes:
Yes... because when i want an unbiased opinion about extra-terrestrial beings, i ask the guy who's job depends on the perceived need for space travel.

If i had a trillion grains of multi-colored sand, and tossed them up in the air, and measured how they landed, that doesn't mean that i could ever exactly replicate that ever again, even if i tried an infinite number of times. I don't care how big the universe is... That doesn't mean, the impossible will suddenly turn possible.
2012-11-02 02:38:41 PM
1 votes:

busy chillin': Life on other planets = yes, almost 100% definitely

Intelligent life on other planets = that's a toughie, I'll go 25% chance

/not a scientist


Math says otherwise.

There are an infinte number of starsystems based upon observations.

Also based on observations, a finite number has intelligent life.

Finite divided by infinity is zero.

I think we can agree there is no intelligent life in the universe.

/better damn not be obscure
2012-11-02 02:38:09 PM
1 votes:
There's probably life. So exotic, foreign and frightening we'd never understand it. I doubt there's anything remotely like us anywhere else in the entire universe though. My best guess is there's lots of lower order...things...but zero if anything remotely like us. Our journey has been so unique, what're the odds of anything going through the same process to get where we are.
2012-11-02 02:34:19 PM
1 votes:

Harv72b: I tend to think that if we ever come into contact with another "intelligent" life form, it will be far more complex than we are.


I'm of the opinion that if we do ever meet extraterrestrial intelligence, it'll be just as retarded as we are.
2012-11-02 02:22:30 PM
1 votes:
Move the quotation marks one word to the right and then change that word to knows; only then does it become interesting.
2012-11-02 01:51:04 PM
1 votes:
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/ Obscure?
2012-11-02 01:06:05 PM
1 votes:

FlashHarry: keiverarrow: Statistically, it's ridiculous to argue otherwise. However, it should be noted that we've never even been able to communicate effectively with the domestic house cat, among the other creatures our planet has to offer. Let's hope they're more like dogs if we ever meet any.

done in one.

the universe is almost infinitely big and 14 billion years old. to think we're the only planet to develop intelligence is just incredibly improbable. however, this vastness also means that it's incredibly improbable that we'll ever contact another intelligent species.


I think that faith - whether in God or the existence of extraterrestrial life - is an expression of our own existential angst that is derived from the core question of our mortality: Are we, in the end, alone?

Haha.. nah.. I'm just trollin'
2012-11-02 12:54:07 PM
1 votes:

exick: FlashHarry: the universe is almost infinitely big and 14 billion years old. to think we're the only planet to develop intelligence is just incredibly improbable. however, this vastness also means that it's incredibly improbable that we'll ever contact another intelligent species.

The likelihood of any other intelligent species being too far away to contact, the possibility of them not being advanced enough to have the ability to receive any sort of radio communication, let alone of the interplanetary variety, and of having no way of interpreting each other's communications anyway makes me sad.


Wait a minute...are you suggesting Star Trek was total fiction???
 
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