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(Salon)   New poll: More than two thirds of Republicans believe in demonic possession, while less than half believe in climate change. Well, that explains a lot   (salon.com) divider line 155
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2012-11-02 04:08:00 PM  

Saiga410: Q13 Do you think it's possible for people to become
possessed by demons, or not?
Yes......................... .57%
No .......................... .35%


LOL
 
2012-11-02 04:53:30 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com

The Dildo of JeebusTM will fix that.
 
2012-11-02 04:57:23 PM  
Demonic possession is no joke. There are plenty of books on the subject for anyone who is genuinely interested in the truth. The rest of y'all, I respect your illusions. Having it really sink in that there are intelligent conscious forces out there bigger and badder than humans can be very disturbing, and sobering, and trigger a deep existential crisis.
 
2012-11-02 05:03:30 PM  

Dion Fortune: Demonic possession is no joke. There are plenty of books on the subject for anyone who is genuinely interested in the truth. The rest of y'all, I respect your illusions. Having it really sink in that there are intelligent conscious forces out there bigger and badder than humans can be very disturbing, and sobering, and trigger a deep existential crisis.


Because pointing out that there is absolutely no evidence of demons, let alone abilities to "possess" people is our "illusion."

Got it.
 
2012-11-02 05:07:22 PM  

Mouldy Squid: PonceAlyosha: Mouldy Squid: It's more a bronze-age sky/war cult

Volcano cult, actually.

In all my years at grad school studying comparative mythology, I have never heard that. It's an interesting theory. I shall have to do some more research. I can see where people could conclude that considering some of the biblical descriptions of YHWH. I am not convinced yet, I'll need some real scholarship on the subject, not just a bunch of blog posts and webpages. In my opinion the EL=YHWH is a more compelling argument considering the geography and what we can determine about the history of the Hebrews.

Thanks for that. You have found my holiday reading for me.


I have citations in a book somewhere, but the original/earliest depictions of what would become the Yah-he-ha-weh deity (and his wife) were tied to specific active and thunderous mountain. This is one of the reasons his visual sign is a pillar of fire and smoke, aka a the visual signs of an volcanic eruption. I want to say he was mainly worshipped at Ararat, but I'm pretty sure that's not right.
 
2012-11-02 05:13:02 PM  

PonceAlyosha: Mouldy Squid: PonceAlyosha: Mouldy Squid: It's more a bronze-age sky/war cult

Volcano cult, actually.

In all my years at grad school studying comparative mythology, I have never heard that. It's an interesting theory. I shall have to do some more research. I can see where people could conclude that considering some of the biblical descriptions of YHWH. I am not convinced yet, I'll need some real scholarship on the subject, not just a bunch of blog posts and webpages. In my opinion the EL=YHWH is a more compelling argument considering the geography and what we can determine about the history of the Hebrews.

Thanks for that. You have found my holiday reading for me.

I have citations in a book somewhere, but the original/earliest depictions of what would become the Yah-he-ha-weh deity (and his wife) were tied to specific active and thunderous mountain. This is one of the reasons his visual sign is a pillar of fire and smoke, aka a the visual signs of an volcanic eruption. I want to say he was mainly worshipped at Ararat, but I'm pretty sure that's not right.


Makes sense. Moses probably went up there during an eruptive process and "found" the 10 Commandments.
 
2012-11-02 05:15:59 PM  

whidbey: PonceAlyosha: Mouldy Squid: PonceAlyosha: Mouldy Squid: It's more a bronze-age sky/war cult

Volcano cult, actually.

In all my years at grad school studying comparative mythology, I have never heard that. It's an interesting theory. I shall have to do some more research. I can see where people could conclude that considering some of the biblical descriptions of YHWH. I am not convinced yet, I'll need some real scholarship on the subject, not just a bunch of blog posts and webpages. In my opinion the EL=YHWH is a more compelling argument considering the geography and what we can determine about the history of the Hebrews.

Thanks for that. You have found my holiday reading for me.

I have citations in a book somewhere, but the original/earliest depictions of what would become the Yah-he-ha-weh deity (and his wife) were tied to specific active and thunderous mountain. This is one of the reasons his visual sign is a pillar of fire and smoke, aka a the visual signs of an volcanic eruption. I want to say he was mainly worshipped at Ararat, but I'm pretty sure that's not right.

Makes sense. Moses probably went up there during an eruptive process and "found" the 10 Commandments.


While potentially an interesting story, the actual deity himself/itself culturally predates [or wasn't synchretized until later, it's been a long time since antiquarian religions class] the Hebrew tribe/culture by quite a bit. Fascinating stuff.
 
2012-11-02 05:20:35 PM  

PonceAlyosha: Fascinating stuff.


There are a lot of very unexplainable things in that canon. Like people living to be a thousand years old.

I'm not surprised if the whole thing was ripped off from an even earlier time, like thousands of years before Exodus.
 
2012-11-02 05:27:44 PM  

whidbey: PonceAlyosha: Fascinating stuff.

There are a lot of very unexplainable things in that canon. Like people living to be a thousand years old.

I'm not surprised if the whole thing was ripped off from an even earlier time, like thousands of years before Exodus.


Well it's not even "ripping off." Tribal boundaries, especially before Judaism/the rules of the Hebrew Tribe were codified, were very fluid. As nomadic pastoralists like Abraham would have been crossed territory, they'd come across and absorb different folk lore, and ideas would percolate. It's important to remember that these tribes were not monotheistic or polytheists, they were henotheists, meaning they'd accept the existence of other gods, but not view them as worth worshiping because they weren't theirs. They viewed their deity as having a literal domain on the Earth with boundaries that their powers could not extend across. It wasn't until you the development/emergence of more metaphysical religions like Zoroastrianism that you see [big scare quotes] "consistent religious worldviews."
 
2012-11-02 05:29:32 PM  

PonceAlyosha: whidbey: PonceAlyosha: Fascinating stuff.

There are a lot of very unexplainable things in that canon. Like people living to be a thousand years old.

I'm not surprised if the whole thing was ripped off from an even earlier time, like thousands of years before Exodus.

Well it's not even "ripping off." Tribal boundaries, especially before Judaism/the rules of the Hebrew Tribe were codified, were very fluid. As nomadic pastoralists like Abraham would have been crossed territory, they'd come across and absorb different folk lore, and ideas would percolate. It's important to remember that these tribes were not monotheistic or polytheists, they were henotheists, meaning they'd accept the existence of other gods, but not view them as worth worshiping because they weren't theirs. They viewed their deity as having a literal domain on the Earth with boundaries that their powers could not extend across. It wasn't until you the development/emergence of more metaphysical religions like Zoroastrianism that you see [big scare quotes] "consistent religious worldviews."


Bah that needs another sentence to clarify. "Consistent religious worldviews" should read more like "religious cosmology/theology." Before that, the point of religion was to keep your god happy, not, for example in the case of Zoroastrians, to help the universe tilt the cosmic balance between opposites.
 
2012-11-02 05:30:07 PM  

PonceAlyosha: PonceAlyosha: whidbey: PonceAlyosha: Fascinating stuff.

There are a lot of very unexplainable things in that canon. Like people living to be a thousand years old.

I'm not surprised if the whole thing was ripped off from an even earlier time, like thousands of years before Exodus.

Well it's not even "ripping off." Tribal boundaries, especially before Judaism/the rules of the Hebrew Tribe were codified, were very fluid. As nomadic pastoralists like Abraham would have been crossed territory, they'd come across and absorb different folk lore, and ideas would percolate. It's important to remember that these tribes were not monotheistic or polytheists, they were henotheists, meaning they'd accept the existence of other gods, but not view them as worth worshiping because they weren't theirs. They viewed their deity as having a literal domain on the Earth with boundaries that their powers could not extend across. It wasn't until you the development/emergence of more metaphysical religions like Zoroastrianism that you see [big scare quotes] "consistent religious worldviews."

Bah that needs another sentence to clarify. "Consistent religious worldviews" should read more like "religious cosmology/theology." Before that, the point of religion was to keep your god happy, not, for example in the case of Zoroastrians, to help the universe tilt the cosmic balance between opposites.


BAH. theology should be TELEOLOGY. Sorry.
 
2012-11-02 05:32:55 PM  

PonceAlyosha: BAH. theology should be TELEOLOGY. Sorry.


No worries. Most of that went over my head, anyway.

I'll brush up on my Rupert Sheldrake for next time, 'k?
;)
 
2012-11-02 05:34:34 PM  

whidbey: Dion Fortune: Demonic possession is no joke. There are plenty of books on the subject for anyone who is genuinely interested in the truth. The rest of y'all, I respect your illusions. Having it really sink in that there are intelligent conscious forces out there bigger and badder than humans can be very disturbing, and sobering, and trigger a deep existential crisis.

Because pointing out that there is absolutely no evidence of demons, let alone abilities to "possess" people is our "illusion."

Got it.


Now wait just one minute. I've seen some very convincing shadows on "In Search Of."

And seen AND heard scary stuff on ______________ (insert name of Learning/Discovery Channel ghost show here).
 
2012-11-02 05:35:22 PM  

PonceAlyosha: Mouldy Squid: PonceAlyosha: Mouldy Squid: It's more a bronze-age sky/war cult

Volcano cult, actually.

In all my years at grad school studying comparative mythology, I have never heard that. It's an interesting theory. I shall have to do some more research. I can see where people could conclude that considering some of the biblical descriptions of YHWH. I am not convinced yet, I'll need some real scholarship on the subject, not just a bunch of blog posts and webpages. In my opinion the EL=YHWH is a more compelling argument considering the geography and what we can determine about the history of the Hebrews.

Thanks for that. You have found my holiday reading for me.

I have citations in a book somewhere, but the original/earliest depictions of what would become the Yah-he-ha-weh deity (and his wife) were tied to specific active and thunderous mountain. This is one of the reasons his visual sign is a pillar of fire and smoke, aka a the visual signs of an volcanic eruption. I want to say he was mainly worshipped at Ararat, but I'm pretty sure that's not right.


It's not a bad theory, just one that doesn't fit all of the facts as we know them. The Hebrews were further north than the mountain chain (Mt. Bedr) where volcanic activity could occur when they adopted YHWH worship. This is not to say that they couldn't have adopted or subsumed another god or god-aspects into YHWH at a later time (they did this a lot). I am not an expert in ancient Hebrew henotheism, but I am fairly familiar the other stuff that was happening in the area.

In any case, this is does warrant further research on my part.
 
2012-11-02 05:36:20 PM  

jasimo: whidbey: Dion Fortune: Demonic possession is no joke. There are plenty of books on the subject for anyone who is genuinely interested in the truth. The rest of y'all, I respect your illusions. Having it really sink in that there are intelligent conscious forces out there bigger and badder than humans can be very disturbing, and sobering, and trigger a deep existential crisis.

Because pointing out that there is absolutely no evidence of demons, let alone abilities to "possess" people is our "illusion."

Got it.

Now wait just one minute. I've seen some very convincing shadows on "In Search Of."

And seen AND heard scary stuff on ______________ (insert name of Learning/Discovery Channel ghost show here).


He could be talking about contemporary magic[k[al practices, which is pretty much just the cargo-cult version of neuro-feedback.
 
2012-11-02 05:37:52 PM  

PonceAlyosha: Mouldy Squid: PonceAlyosha: Mouldy Squid: It's more a bronze-age sky/war cult

Volcano cult, actually.

In all my years at grad school studying comparative mythology, I have never heard that. It's an interesting theory. I shall have to do some more research. I can see where people could conclude that considering some of the biblical descriptions of YHWH. I am not convinced yet, I'll need some real scholarship on the subject, not just a bunch of blog posts and webpages. In my opinion the EL=YHWH is a more compelling argument considering the geography and what we can determine about the history of the Hebrews.

Thanks for that. You have found my holiday reading for me.

I have citations in a book somewhere, but the original/earliest depictions of what would become the Yah-he-ha-weh deity (and his wife) were tied to specific active and thunderous mountain. This is one of the reasons his visual sign is a pillar of fire and smoke, aka a the visual signs of an volcanic eruption. I want to say he was mainly worshipped at Ararat, but I'm pretty sure that's not right.


There is some evidence that Ararat did play some part in the early Hebrew pantheon, but as far as I know it isn't an active volcano. My cursory googling turns up Mt. Bedr as the primary suspect of this theory (see my above post).
 
2012-11-02 05:38:41 PM  

PonceAlyosha: neuro-feedback.


Makes a lot more sense to me than "Baphomet possessed that poor girl for weeks."

O rly?
 
2012-11-02 05:41:52 PM  

Mouldy Squid: PonceAlyosha: Mouldy Squid: PonceAlyosha: Mouldy Squid: It's more a bronze-age sky/war cult

Volcano cult, actually.

In all my years at grad school studying comparative mythology, I have never heard that. It's an interesting theory. I shall have to do some more research. I can see where people could conclude that considering some of the biblical descriptions of YHWH. I am not convinced yet, I'll need some real scholarship on the subject, not just a bunch of blog posts and webpages. In my opinion the EL=YHWH is a more compelling argument considering the geography and what we can determine about the history of the Hebrews.

Thanks for that. You have found my holiday reading for me.

I have citations in a book somewhere, but the original/earliest depictions of what would become the Yah-he-ha-weh deity (and his wife) were tied to specific active and thunderous mountain. This is one of the reasons his visual sign is a pillar of fire and smoke, aka a the visual signs of an volcanic eruption. I want to say he was mainly worshipped at Ararat, but I'm pretty sure that's not right.

There is some evidence that Ararat did play some part in the early Hebrew pantheon, but as far as I know it isn't an active volcano. My cursory googling turns up Mt. Bedr as the primary suspect of this theory (see my above post).


From what I've dug up in two seconds of searching, some people mention Sinai, but note that there's no real scholarship showing that what is now called Mt. Sinai was the same mountain that was called Sinai in the ancient times, which seems kind of bulslhituous to me. .
 
2012-11-02 05:44:58 PM  

whidbey: PonceAlyosha: neuro-feedback.

Makes a lot more sense to me than "Baphomet possessed that poor girl for weeks."

O rly?


Neuro-feedback is the process by which a person learns to modulate their own "mental signals/rhytmns" [I'm actually a neuroscientist by trade so just let me use my dumbass words because it's way more complicated and not really pertinent], usually with outside technological help [an EEG or qEEG are the most common]. Contemporary magic[k] is pretty much what the ancient would call "theatre," the act of playing a role to reach ex-stasis. It's internal self modulation through symbolism and acting, the same way that "contemporary religion" is for the active participants.
 
2012-11-02 05:57:18 PM  

PonceAlyosha: Mouldy Squid: PonceAlyosha: Mouldy Squid: PonceAlyosha: Mouldy Squid: It's more a bronze-age sky/war cult

Volcano cult, actually.

In all my years at grad school studying comparative mythology, I have never heard that. It's an interesting theory. I shall have to do some more research. I can see where people could conclude that considering some of the biblical descriptions of YHWH. I am not convinced yet, I'll need some real scholarship on the subject, not just a bunch of blog posts and webpages. In my opinion the EL=YHWH is a more compelling argument considering the geography and what we can determine about the history of the Hebrews.

Thanks for that. You have found my holiday reading for me.

I have citations in a book somewhere, but the original/earliest depictions of what would become the Yah-he-ha-weh deity (and his wife) were tied to specific active and thunderous mountain. This is one of the reasons his visual sign is a pillar of fire and smoke, aka a the visual signs of an volcanic eruption. I want to say he was mainly worshipped at Ararat, but I'm pretty sure that's not right.

There is some evidence that Ararat did play some part in the early Hebrew pantheon, but as far as I know it isn't an active volcano. My cursory googling turns up Mt. Bedr as the primary suspect of this theory (see my above post).

From what I've dug up in two seconds of searching, some people mention Sinai, but note that there's no real scholarship showing that what is now called Mt. Sinai was the same mountain that was called Sinai in the ancient times, which seems kind of bulslhituous to me. .


Well, a lot of times when ancient peoples named places (particularly things like mountains) they meant a wider area than we do now. For instance Mount Sinai could be a hill, a discrete mountain, a high desert plateau, a range of mountains (where the "Mount Sinai" is the most distinguishing feature). That modern (by which I mean anything 0 CE and on) scholars have chosen a particular geographical feature to be Mount Sinai doesn't really mean that it is the same one ancient nomads thought it to be. Ancient geography is always a crap shoot since not only can there be errors in translation, there can be errors in interpretation. Hell, they could have named it Mount Sinai because it looked like the Mount Sinai their great-great-great-great-great-great grandfathers used to camp at.

What is pretty clear though is the linguistic evidence that YHWH was a sky/storm god (and hence war god). The very same passages that provide arguments of a volcanic origin can also be interpreted in a sky/storm cloud context (pillar of fire could be a euphemism for lightning, and pillar of smoke one for thunderclouds which do look like pillars).
 
2012-11-02 05:59:59 PM  

Mouldy Squid: What is pretty clear though is the linguistic evidence that YHWH was a sky/storm god (and hence war god). The very same passages that provide arguments of a volcanic origin can also be interpreted in a sky/storm cloud context (pillar of fire could be a euphemism for lightning, and pillar of smoke one for thunderclouds which do look like pillars).


Yes but their is often the invocation of sulfur and the trembling of mountains in conjunction to fire, which would not be associated with the sky or a storm.
 
2012-11-02 06:19:00 PM  
Here's the one that seems to have possessed the entire GOP:

i50.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-02 06:29:53 PM  

PonceAlyosha: whidbey: PonceAlyosha: neuro-feedback.

Makes a lot more sense to me than "Baphomet possessed that poor girl for weeks."

O rly?

Neuro-feedback is the process by which a person learns to modulate their own "mental signals/rhytmns" [I'm actually a neuroscientist by trade so just let me use my dumbass words because it's way more complicated and not really pertinent], usually with outside technological help [an EEG or qEEG are the most common]. Contemporary magic[k] is pretty much what the ancient would call "theatre," the act of playing a role to reach ex-stasis. It's internal self modulation through symbolism and acting, the same way that "contemporary religion" is for the active participants.


Changing brain patterns through meditation/biofeedback/neurofeedback etc. is one thing, ascribing the changes to angels, demons and gods, is another.
 
2012-11-02 06:32:19 PM  

jasimo: PonceAlyosha: whidbey: PonceAlyosha: neuro-feedback.

Makes a lot more sense to me than "Baphomet possessed that poor girl for weeks."

O rly?

Neuro-feedback is the process by which a person learns to modulate their own "mental signals/rhytmns" [I'm actually a neuroscientist by trade so just let me use my dumbass words because it's way more complicated and not really pertinent], usually with outside technological help [an EEG or qEEG are the most common]. Contemporary magic[k] is pretty much what the ancient would call "theatre," the act of playing a role to reach ex-stasis. It's internal self modulation through symbolism and acting, the same way that "contemporary religion" is for the active participants.

Changing brain patterns through meditation/biofeedback/neurofeedback etc. is one thing, ascribing the changes to angels, demons and gods, is another.


Hence why I called it a "cargo cult." It is poorly applied psychology masked beneath folklore.
 
2012-11-02 06:41:23 PM  

Mr. Cat Poop: We're dealing with a group of zealots who believe the world is going to be destroyed by the Apocalypse anyway, so who gives a shiat what we do to it.


And they've got their evangelical escape pod (aka "The Rapture"). So fark the climate, it's all good.


jasimo: Whenever I hear someone going on about "God" I mentally substitute "Odin" or "Zeus" to give their statements the proper perspective.

Yesterday on the news I saw a middle-aged woman surveying the broken timbers of what used to be her house in NJ/NY. She shook her head solemnly and said, "Well, nobody died. God sure has been good to us."


www.atheistunderworld.com
 
2012-11-02 06:51:05 PM  

PonceAlyosha: jasimo: PonceAlyosha: whidbey: PonceAlyosha: neuro-feedback.

Makes a lot more sense to me than "Baphomet possessed that poor girl for weeks."

O rly?

Neuro-feedback is the process by which a person learns to modulate their own "mental signals/rhytmns" [I'm actually a neuroscientist by trade so just let me use my dumbass words because it's way more complicated and not really pertinent], usually with outside technological help [an EEG or qEEG are the most common]. Contemporary magic[k] is pretty much what the ancient would call "theatre," the act of playing a role to reach ex-stasis. It's internal self modulation through symbolism and acting, the same way that "contemporary religion" is for the active participants.

Changing brain patterns through meditation/biofeedback/neurofeedback etc. is one thing, ascribing the changes to angels, demons and gods, is another.

Hence why I called it a "cargo cult." It is poorly applied psychology masked beneath folklore.



Clearly though, the response that started the chain was talking about more than psychology/neurofeedback/meditation/trances/etc:

Dion Fortune: Demonic possession is no joke. There are plenty of books on the subject for anyone who is genuinely interested in the truth. The rest of y'all, I respect your illusions. Having it really sink in that there are intelligent conscious forces out there bigger and badder than humans can be very disturbing, and sobering, and trigger a deep existential crisis.
 
2012-11-02 06:58:20 PM  

Dion Fortune: Demonic possession is no joke. There are plenty of books on the subject for anyone who is genuinely interested in the truth. The rest of y'all, I respect your illusions. Having it really sink in that there are intelligent conscious forces out there bigger and badder than humans can be very disturbing, and sobering, and trigger a deep existential crisis.


can you prove that there is actual demonic possession? As opposed to people acting up because of schizophrenia or other mental illness, epilepsy, drugs, or just plain' ol' defiance?

BTW, take the time to do a Google search of deaths from so-called exorcisms. Steady trickle of people (especially kids) have been murdered over the years during completely stupid rituals.
 
2012-11-02 07:51:00 PM  

Egalitarian: Dion Fortune: Demonic possession is no joke. There are plenty of books on the subject for anyone who is genuinely interested in the truth. The rest of y'all, I respect your illusions. Having it really sink in that there are intelligent conscious forces out there bigger and badder than humans can be very disturbing, and sobering, and trigger a deep existential crisis.

can you prove that there is actual demonic possession? As opposed to people acting up because of schizophrenia or other mental illness, epilepsy, drugs, or just plain' ol' defiance?

BTW, take the time to do a Google search of deaths from so-called exorcisms. Steady trickle of people (especially kids) have been murdered over the years during completely stupid rituals.


Don't feed the troll.
 
2012-11-02 08:19:32 PM  
As the God-Emperor learned to his chagrin, simply pretending demons do not exist will not starve them to death, you must create an equally-powerful warp entity to combat them or they will simply feed on the emotions and strife your wars of enlightenment create.

i75.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-02 09:01:09 PM  
YOU TOO can enjoy the benefits of demonic possesion in the privacy of your own home for only $39 a month.
 
2012-11-02 09:16:56 PM  

Mouldy Squid: PonceAlyosha: Mouldy Squid: PonceAlyosha: Mouldy Squid: It's more a bronze-age sky/war cult

Volcano cult, actually.

In all my years at grad school studying comparative mythology, I have never heard that. It's an interesting theory. I shall have to do some more research. I can see where people could conclude that considering some of the biblical descriptions of YHWH. I am not convinced yet, I'll need some real scholarship on the subject, not just a bunch of blog posts and webpages. In my opinion the EL=YHWH is a more compelling argument considering the geography and what we can determine about the history of the Hebrews.

Thanks for that. You have found my holiday reading for me.

I have citations in a book somewhere, but the original/earliest depictions of what would become the Yah-he-ha-weh deity (and his wife) were tied to specific active and thunderous mountain. This is one of the reasons his visual sign is a pillar of fire and smoke, aka a the visual signs of an volcanic eruption. I want to say he was mainly worshipped at Ararat, but I'm pretty sure that's not right.

It's not a bad theory, just one that doesn't fit all of the facts as we know them. The Hebrews were further north than the mountain chain (Mt. Bedr) where volcanic activity could occur when they adopted YHWH worship. This is not to say that they couldn't have adopted or subsumed another god or god-aspects into YHWH at a later time (they did this a lot). I am not an expert in ancient Hebrew henotheism, but I am fairly familiar the other stuff that was happening in the area.

In any case, this is does warrant further research on my part.


Newsletter request....
 
2012-11-02 09:21:36 PM  
It's actually fair. As unlikely as demonic possession seems, it has not yet been scientifically falsified, as "global warming" / "anthropogenic climate change" / "climate disruption" / "climatepocalypse" / "global pants shiatting" has been.
 
2012-11-02 09:34:12 PM  

Saiga410: I am loving the racial breakdown by race for "How long would you survive a zombie outbreak?" pg16


Link
 
2012-11-02 09:36:16 PM  
Jesus wept, shook his head, wiped his eyes and laughed,
Said "You can believe what you what but that won't make it last,
You nail some poor boy to a tree, brother he ain't coming back,
So don't look to me when you're trying to see the presence that you lack.
 
2012-11-02 09:50:55 PM  
So, what do I tell a Xian that I am actually a demon who is possessing the body of a human, however the human I am possessing is much more dangerous and evil than I am.
 
2012-11-02 10:14:16 PM  

MrBentor: So, what do I tell a Xian that I am actually a demon who is possessing the body of a human, however the human I am possessing is much more dangerous and evil than I am.


Like that sort of moral quandary would keep a nutty Christian from killing the both of you?

Seriously, man. This doesn't end well for you either way.
 
2012-11-02 10:15:24 PM  

Hobodeluxe: In case anyone needs inspiration to go to the polls or gotv


Oh, my
 
2012-11-02 10:42:33 PM  
2/3 of Republicans and 1/2 of Democrats. Not surprising, since we basically inherited every country's stupidest people. From the Puritans all the way to the Mariel boat lift, every nation has disgorged its largest supply of idiots and sent them our way.

There was of course a very small minority of smart people who were opressed by their home government for being too smart and liked the idea of living somewhere totally new, and that's why we aren't completely hopeless, and against all odds we've done a fairly decent job of educating our idiot masses. But idiots tend to raise idiots, and that's kept the idiot majority going strong.
 
2012-11-02 11:29:30 PM  
Folks, evil is REAL.

Just because you don't believe in evil, does not make you immune to it.

/ I believe in demons, and I am a man made climate change doubter, mock all you want, reality does not change.
 
2012-11-03 12:33:52 AM  

TheBigJerk: As the God-Emperor learned to his chagrin, simply pretending demons do not exist will not starve them to death, you must create an equally-powerful warp entity to combat them or they will simply feed on the emotions and strife your wars of enlightenment create.

[i75.photobucket.com image 444x640]


The Sha?

www.wowpedia.org

We can fix that. With PANDAS.

www.wowpedia.org
 
2012-11-03 02:00:22 AM  
Oh goddammit...

Dear GOP:

i249.photobucket.com
 
x23
2012-11-03 02:09:35 AM  

HairBolus: let's see what Google says?

obama demonic possession - About 928,000 results

A few grabs from the results:

Obama is Possessed By A Demon (with pictures) | ChristWire

Obama has Satan In His Corner! www.truthtube.tv - Video Dailymotion
Reader speculates on demonic possession of Obama in relation to .
demonic possession takes over the government and white house
The GREAT Deceiver....Obama - Topix
Gordo: Obama Controlled by 50 Demons | Dispatches from the ...

Yup. There is a whole lot of stupid going on out there.



ChristWire is an Onion-esque parody site.
 
2012-11-03 02:14:18 AM  
I'll just go with the scientific data on the whole climate change thing:

www.woodfortrees.org

Oh wait....
 
2012-11-03 10:22:00 AM  
There are an awful lot of these hyper-religious loons in the Republican Party. Especially in my neck of the woods. I know that as well as anybody.
But seriously... who was this poll conducted for, and to what end?
Partisan Democrats are every bit as zealous and closed-minded as partisan Republicans.

PPP: The "Rasmussen" of the left...
 
2012-11-03 12:49:55 PM  

x23: HairBolus: let's see what Google says?

obama demonic possession - About 928,000 results

A few grabs from the results:

Obama is Possessed By A Demon (with pictures) | ChristWire
Obama has Satan In His Corner! www.truthtube.tv - Video Dailymotion
Reader speculates on demonic possession of Obama in relation to .
demonic possession takes over the government and white house
The GREAT Deceiver....Obama - Topix
Gordo: Obama Controlled by 50 Demons | Dispatches from the ...

Yup. There is a whole lot of stupid going on out there.

ChristWire is an Onion-esque parody site.


Do you expect me to read through all those 928,000 results to determine which are parodies? Or is you point that they are all liberal plants and nobody seriously thinks that Obama is possessed or is the AntiChrist?
 
2012-11-03 02:06:51 PM  

SevenizGud: I'll just go with the scientific data on the whole climate change thing:



You know, at some point you should receive a time out for continuing to post that, because you've been shown over and over that it's a lie.

Lies=trolling
 
2012-11-04 03:06:45 AM  
whidbey:
SevenizGud: I'll just go with the scientific data on the whole climate change thing:


You know, at some point you should receive a time out for continuing to post that, because you've been shown over and over that it's a lie.

Lies=trolling

Ironically, labeling anything with which you disagree a lie could be called lying.
 
2012-11-04 11:22:49 AM  

GeneralJim: whidbey: SevenizGud: I'll just go with the scientific data on the whole climate change thing:


You know, at some point you should receive a time out for continuing to post that, because you've been shown over and over that it's a lie.

Lies=trolling
Ironically, labeling anything with which you disagree a lie could be called lying.


So could misrepresenting someone else's position as an absurd absolute, no? ;)
 
2012-11-04 09:06:10 PM  

Vodka Zombie: Yeah. This country has a bright farking future, doesn't it?


Yes. The superstitious are slowly but surely dying out or waking up to the 21st century.

Link
 
2012-11-04 11:35:15 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: jasimo: /Raised Catholic, but at around 11 I realized, "Hey, this stuff doesn't make a damn bit of sense, any more than Norse or Greek gods do."

At Catholic Sunday School when I was about 5, I made the mistake of asking where Cain's wife came from.


What was the answer?
 
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