Tom_Slick: Good Pop Country

I swear to whatever unholy deity is listening that if I go into one more farking bar where some fat swamp donkey plays that god damn song on the jukebox or sings it for karaoke I'm barring the doors and starting a Sambuca fire.

Not nearly enough love for the Zac Brown Band last night either. I was disappointed. Those guys are some of the most talented musicians working in any genre right now.

Country, My Ass!

I'm more of a Joe Ely-BR549-Webb Wilder-Jayhawks-Trent Summar-John Hiatt-Southern Culture On The Skids kinda country listener myself. Awards shows are nothing more than a circle jerk of "industry" wankers congratulating each other for peddling millions of "units" of watered-down fake tripe that glorifies stupidity to people who don't know better.

This is country

This is country

This is country

This is country

And even this... is more country that most of garbage you hear on the radio. Not to mention, just better in general.

A lot of the mass market "country" these days glorifies being an idiot, which I'm not a fan of. And Taylor Swift is as "country" like Britney Spears.

Also, I want to punch anyone who raps in a country song, right square in the yambag.

It is at least a positive thing Miranda Lambert won something rather than another pop tart. At least she has a measure of actual talent.

The Muthaship: theflatline: Coe wrote such timeless classics as

"Fark in the Butt"
"I am the man who made Linda Lovelace gag."
"He has to pay for what I get for Free"
"Don't bite the Dick that Feeds you"
"Masturbation Blues"
"Cum Stains on the Pillow"(about a boy and his dog)
"Itty Bitty Titties"

And a ton of others.

/loves me some david allen coe.

You left out all his White Power Ballads.


David Allen Coe used the N word like Rob Zombie uses "YEAH".

WhippingBoy: Country music nowadays is just regurgitated pop music with a steel guitar-twang and an incredibly transparently fake "just plain folks" vibe.

Whenever I hear some guy (or gal) with a net-worth in the tens of millions singing about the trials and tribulations of "living in a double-wide", part of my soul dies.

Snoop Dogg got nominated. And Lionel Richie. And the Civil Wars. Taylor wasn't even the least-country person there last night. Country can't hang on to banjos and twang forever. That's just how music is going these days. Genres have gotten tossed in a blender and set to 'frappe'. Country is no different. People sing what they like, and as a result, the most popular country singer in the world drops dubstep on everyone and calls it one of her favorite tracks on the album.

it seems the country music industry is doing to Taylor Swift what John Mayer and the Kennedy kid did

Which would be what, exactly?

Blake Shelton and Miranda Lambert are fantastic and deserve those awards. Taylor Swift has won a ton of awards and probably will win a ton more in the future, so let's not get carried away.

The Muthaship: theflatline: Coe wrote such timeless classics as

"Fark in the Butt"
"I am the man who made Linda Lovelace gag."
"He has to pay for what I get for Free"
"Don't bite the Dick that Feeds you"
"Masturbation Blues"
"Cum Stains on the Pillow"(about a boy and his dog)
"Itty Bitty Titties"

And a ton of others.

/loves me some david allen coe.

You left out all his White Power Ballads.

Fortunately he doesn't do those anymore. They do however still his X rated stuff at his shows. I saw him in concert last year and they basically had to wheel him on stage. He put on a good show, though it only lasted an hour.



Also...

"And if that ain't 'Country', I'll kiss your ass.
If that ain't 'country', it'll hair-lip the Pope.
If that ain't 'country', it's a damn good joke.
I've seen the Grand Ol' Opry, and I've met Johnny Cash.
If that ain't 'Country', I'll kiss your ass."

Smeggy Smurf: browntimmy: I'm thinking the number of country songs in existence that could be described as "epic" or "masterpiece" is somewhere in the neighborhood of 0-2.

He Stopped Loving Her Today - George Jones
Before the Next Teardrop Falls - Freddy Fender
The Gambler - Kenny Rogers
Good Hearted Woman - Waylon Jennings

and most important of all:
This Cowboy's Hat - Chris Ledoux



128 "King Of The Road" - Roger Miller
127 "Lonesome On'ry and Mean" - Waylon Jennings
126 "Blood Red And Goin' Down" - Tanya Tucker
125 "Candy Kisses" - George Morgan
124 "Orange Blossom Special" - Johnny Cash
123 "Take This Job and Shove It" - Johnny Paycheck
122 "Then You Can Tell Me Goodbye" - Eddy Arnold
121 "18 Wheels and a Dozen Roses" - Kathy Mattea
120 "Rose Garden (aka I Never Promised You A Rose Garden)" - Lynn Anderson
119 "You Never Even Called Me By My Name" - David Allen Coe
118 "Why Don't Ya Love Me" - Hank Williams, Sr.
117 "Country Bumpkin" - Cal Smith
116 "He Thinks He'll Keep Her" - Mary Chapin Carpenter
115 "Blue Suede Shoes" - Carl Perkins
114 "Amarillo By Morning" - George Strait
113 "North To Alaska" - Johnny Horton
112 "Does Fort Worth Ever Cross Your Mind" - George Strait
111 "I'm Not Lisa" - Jessi Colter
110 "If You've Got The Money, I've Got The Time" - Lefty Frizzell
109 "The Gambler" - Kenny Rogers
108 "Silver Medals, and Sweet Memories" - Statler Brothers
107 "Are You Sure Hank Done It This Way?" - Waylon Jennings
106 "Lookin' At The World Through a Windshield" - Del Reeves
105 "A Thousand Miles From Nowhere" - Dwight Yoakam
104 "Walkin' After Midnight" - Patsy Cline
103 "Long Gone Lonesome Blues" - Hank Williams, Sr.
102 "Tennessee River" - Alabama
101 "Giddyup Go" - Red Sovine
100 "Wildwood Flower" - The Carter Family
99 "D-I-V-O-R-C-E" - Tammy Wynette
98 "Cool Water" - Bob Nolan & The Sons Of The Pioneers
97 "What a Difference You've Made In My Life" - Ronnie Milsap
96 "Is Anybody Goin' To San Antone" - Charley Pride
95 "Sweet Dreams" - Patsy Cline
94 "Long Black Veil" - Lefty Frizzell
93 "Linda On My Mind" - Conway Twitty
92 "Phantom 309″ - Red Sovine
91 "There Goes My Everything" - Jack Greene
90 "Kaw-Liga" - Hank Williams, Sr.
89 "You Don't Even Know Who I Am" - Patty Loveless
88 "Cold, Cold Heart" - Hank Williams, Sr
87 "The Year That Clayton Delaney Died" - Tom T. Hall
86 "I Need You" - Sonny James
85 "Uncle Pen" - Bill Monroe
84 "There's No Getting Over Me" - Ronnie Milsap
83 "Behind Closed Doors" - Charlie Rich
82 "It Must Be Love" - Don Williams
81 "Seven Year Ache" - Rosanne Cash
80 "Silver Wings" - Merle Haggard
79 "You Are My Sunshine" - Jimmie Davis
78 "Sleeping Single in a Double Bed" - Barbara Mandrell
77 "Harper Valley P.T.A." - Jeannie C. Riley
76 "Luckenbach, Texas" - Waylon Jennings
75 "She's Got You" - Patsy Cline
74 "Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up To Be Cowboys" - Willie Nelson & Waylon Jennings
73 "Lead Me On" - Conway Twitty & Loretta Lynn
72 "Jolene" - Dolly Parton
71 "I'm Movin' On" - Hank Snow
70 "Love in the Hot Afternoon" - Gene Watson
69 "Waltz Across Texas" - Ernest Tubb
68 "You've Never Been This Far Before" - Conway Twitty
67 "Help Me Make It Through The Night" - Sammi Smith
66 "Here's a Quarter (Call Someone Who Cares)" - Travis Tritt
65 "Crazy Arms" - Ray Price
64 "Sunday Morning Comin' Down" - Johnny Cash
63. "Coca Cola Cowboy" - Mel Tillis
62 "Louisiana Woman, Mississippi Man" - Conway Twitty & Loretta Lynn
61 "Pure Love" - Ronnie Milsap
60 "Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain" - Willie Nelson
59 "Rocky Top" - The Osborne Brothers
58 "Okie From Muskogee" - Merle Haggard
57 "I Sang Dixie" - Dwight Yoakam
56 "Good-Hearted Woman" - Waylon Jennings
55 "Bouquet of Roses" - Eddy Arnold
54 "Here In The Real World" - Alan Jackson
53 "Hello Walls" - Faron Young
52 "I Think I'll Just Stay Here and Drink" - Merle Haggard
51 "I Will Always Love You" - Dolly Parton
50 "Tumbling Tumbleweeds" - The Sons Of The Pioneers
49 "Anytime" - Eddy Arnold
48 "Only Daddy That'll Walk The Line" - Waylon Jennings
47 "Dreaming My Dreams With You" - Waylon Jennings
46 "Delta Dawn" - Tanya Tucker
45 "Hello Darlin'" - Conway Twitty
44 "Tight Fittin' Jeans" - Conway Twitty
43 "Chiseled In Stone" - Vern Gosdin
42 "I Can't Help It (If I'm Still In Love With You)" - Hank Williams, Sr.
41 "The Cattle Call" - Eddy Arnold
40 "The Battle of New Orleans" - Johnny Horton
39 "Wabash Cannonball" - Roy Acuff
38 "Suspicious Minds" - Elvis Presley
37 "Hey Good Lookin'" - Hank Williams, Sr
36. "Act Naturally" - Buck Owens
35 "Faded Love" - Bob Wills And His Texas Playboys
34 "How Can I Help You To Say Goodbye?" -
33 "Walking The Floor Over You - Ernest Tubb
32 "Coat Of Many Colors" - Dolly Parton
31 "Make The World Go Away" - Eddy Arnold
30 "Rainy Day Woman" - Waylon Jennings
29 "It Wasn't God Who Made Honky-Tonk Angels" - Kitty Wells
28 "I Can't Stop Loving You" - Don Gibson
27 "Tennessee Waltz" - Patti Page
26 "The Last Thing On My Mind" - Porter Wagoner & Dolly Parton
25 "White Lightning" - George Jones
24 "For The Good Times" - Ray Price
23 "Ring of Fire" - Johnny Cash
22 "Jambalaya" - Hank Williams Sr.
21 "Stand By Your Man" - Tammy Wynette
20 "Tiger by the Tail" - Buck Owens
19 "Oh, Lonesome Me" - Don Gibson
18 "Always On My Mind" - Willie Nelson
17 "Old Dogs, Children, And Watermelon Wine" - Tom T Hall
16 "Coal Miner's Daughter" - Loretta Lynn
15 "Mama Tried" - Merle Haggard
14 "I Walk The Line" - Johnny Cash
13 "Workin' Man Blues" - Merle Haggard
12 "San Antonio Rose" - Bob Wills And His Texas Playboys
11 "Sixteen Tons" - Tennessee Ernie Ford
10 "Smokey Mountain Rain" - Ronnie Milsap
09 "He'll Have To Go" - Jim Reeves
08 "Lovesick Blues" - Hank Williams, Sr.
07 "Today I Started Loving You Again" - Merle Haggard
06 "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry" - Hank Williams, Sr.
05 "El Paso" - Marty Robbins
04 "I Fall To Pieces" - Patsy Cline
03 "Your Cheatin' Heart" - Hank Williams, Sr.
02 "Crazy" - Patsy Cline
01 "He Stopped Loving Her Today" - George Jones


What can I say? My mother was almost all country (and my father was quite a bit rock and roll).

/and no, neither were Latter-Day Saints.

FLMountainMan: I love the farkers in this thread who think that country is exceptional in some way -

THE LYRICS ARE STUPID AND TRIVIAL - go back and listen to the Beatles' lyrics.

JOHNNY CASH IS REAL COUNTRY - how many songs did he actually write? A life of drug addiction does not somehow make you "real country"

THEY'RE NOT EVEN REAL COWBOYS - pssstttt - Ice Cube's average day does not involve using an AK-47. Never has. Dave Matthews does not have an actual satellite in his eyes.

THEY PLAY ON RACIAL STEREOTYPES - see Ice Cube comment above.

It sounds exceptionally bad. Give me anything Johnny Cash wrote over anything that a country radio station has played in the past 25 years.

Wrote some of Jason Aldeans hits, still wins nothing.

Link

Didn't watch the CMA; any mention of (songwriter) Bill Dees who passed away a few days back?

red5ish: Eternal Virgin: I don't know anything about Country music because I'm just a humble beaner, but...

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This is Julie Ho or whatever, I'm sure I got her name wrong but if I was deaf I would totally love Country.

Hate to be the one to break it to you but Julianne Hough is a Mormon, a Romney supporter, and has been dating Ryan Seacrest for the last 3 years. She is good looking but I find the above mentioned traits repellent.

That's because you're a bigot.

So much for your vaunted 'liberal tolerance'.

monoski: TrainingWheelsNeeded: SlothB77: Swift may be a good songwriter, but she is far from the best country vocalist or the best live show.

/also, i believe subby was going with 'The CMA's, John Mayer and the Kennedy kid all left her empty handed'. No rock. No stone. No medal. No award.

I was thinking the pooper thing.

Gonna have to clean the santorum monoski off

ftftrou

Do you know what you get when you play country music backwards?

You get your wife back, your horse back, your dog back....

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Well I was drunk the day my mom got outta prison
and I went to pick her up in the rain
but before I could get to the station in my pickup truck
she got runned over by a damned old train


/you don't have to call me darlin, darlin.

and not it's officially a country song

/welcome to Willie's Roadhouse

She puts out an album that has a bunch of pop and dance tunes on it, and doesn't win any country music awards !? I'm speechless.

/Public Enemy was robbed of the 1988 best Rock/Metal performance grammy !!!!

A coworker listens to the country station and I've noticed an awful lot of songs are about beer. But at some point doesn't even the biggest beer-chuggin moron begin to think, "Hey, am I being pandered to?"

I guess not.

theflatline: Coe wrote such timeless classics as

"Fark in the Butt"
"I am the man who made Linda Lovelace gag."
"He has to pay for what I get for Free"
"Don't bite the Dick that Feeds you"
"Masturbation Blues"
"Cum Stains on the Pillow"(about a boy and his dog)
"Itty Bitty Titties"

And a ton of others.

/loves me some david allen coe.

You left out all his White Power Ballads.

MightyPez: Tom_Slick: Good Pop Country

I swear to whatever unholy deity is listening that if I go into one more farking bar where some fat swamp donkey plays that god damn song on the jukebox or sings it for karaoke I'm barring the doors and starting a Sambuca fire.

Thisissitythisthis.

At Red River in Dallas it seems to be the mating call for all the nasty farkers with two left feet...gah.

Well I was drunk the day my mom got outta prison
and I went to pick her up in the rain
but before I could get to the station in my pickup truck
she got runned over by a damned old train


/you don't have to call me darlin, darlin.

The Muthaship: red5ish: I'm sure she'll get over not winning anything at the CMA this year

You clearly haven't listened to any of her music. She doesn't get over sh*t.

You make a compelling point. (I laughed.)

A lot of folks in this thread seem to be missing another point, to wit, that they are nowhere to be found in Swift's target demographic, unless there are 'tweens and women under 18 with disposable income and iPods' among us Farkers.

As far back as I can remember there have been pop stars targeting the teeny bopper bubble gum market; I even remember resenting those pop stars in a petulant way when I was younger. I'm pretty sure that David Cassidy didn't give a rip about my opinion of him or his music and I'm pretty sure Taylor Swift doesn't either.

I believe the main reason Taylor Swift articles get posted on Fark is to give the community an opportunity to post pictures of her and make salacious comments, and I am totally OK with that. I do find comments that criticize her music a little tiresome as they typically are a display of misplaced outrage. It's like railing against romance novels.

Tom_Slick: Psycoholic_Slag: Back in the day you had do prison time (or at least pretend you did) and be a Level 5 alcoholic with 4 ex wives before you were "country".

At least that is what all the songs led me to believe.

/my lawn, it has a pickup and old dog on it.

Obvious country song for that comment

I was thinking more David Allen Coe:

"WELL, I WAS DRUNK THE DAY MY MOM GOT OUT OF PRISON
AND I WENT TO PICK HER UP IN THE RAIN
BUT BEFORE I COULD GET TO THE STATION IN MY PICKUP TRUCK
SHE GOT RUNNED OVER BY A DAMNED OLD TRAIN"

Psycoholic_Slag: Back in the day you had do prison time (or at least pretend you did) and be a Level 5 alcoholic with 4 ex wives before you were "country".

At least that is what all the songs led me to believe.

/my lawn, it has a pickup and old dog on it.

Obvious country song for that comment

red5ish: I'm sure she'll get over not winning anything at the CMA this year

You clearly haven't listened to any of her music. She doesn't get over sh*t.

In 2008, her albums sold a combined four million copies, making her the best-selling musician of the year in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan. Forbes ranked Swift 2009's 69th-most powerful celebrity with earnings of $18 million and 2010's 12th-most powerful celebrity with earnings of $45 million. Swift was ranked the 38th Best Artist of the 2000-10 decade by Billboard. In January 2010 Nielsen SoundScan listed Swift as the most commercially successful country (or country/pop crossover) artist in music history with over 33 million digital tracks sold. As of February 2011 she has sold over 19 million albums and 33 million singles worldwide.

Net Worth: $50 million

I'm sure she'll get over not winning anything at the CMA this year. Link

HKWolf: There is a country music singer named Mac McAnally? Really? No picked up on this?

dude...Mac is one of the best songwriters alive. He is a lead member of Jimmy Buffett's band. Read up on the dude.

Blowmonkey: HKWolf: There is a country music singer named Mac McAnally? Really? No picked up on this?

I picked up on this. How is this possible? Could that actually be his real name? If it's not, why would you choose it.

It sounds like a horrible McDonald's character.

Wellon Dowd: This cuddly, Taylor Swift-shiat has to stop. It's not real country music.

Agreed:


Real Country

Real Country

Good Pop Country

There is a country music singer named Mac McAnally? Really? No picked up on this?

2words1finger: She has absolutely no talent or skill as a vocalist or a performer or a songwriter, but she has this cute "girl next door" look to her so she gets to make millions of dollars.

Unlike which "country" star of today? It sure as hell isn't the karaoke game show winner they keep trotting out.

The CMAs strapped a dildo on her and made her peg an awards show?

exick: NuttierThanEver: now if she gets shut out next year then I will believe that the Country music elite are tired of her teen angst country-pop songs

If that is the case, they should just shut down the CMAs completely because country music is literally a neverending minefield of angst and sorrow. I'm not much of a fan of country, but I do listen to it on occasion and I'll be the first to tell you that adult angst country-pop songs aren't any more tolerable than their teen counterparts.

Much of country music is a catalog of the causality and condition of arrested development.

Peeing on her?