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2012-11-02 08:05:14 AM  
5 votes:

mr_a: Terrible story and hope it never happens to anyone.

Still, if you had kept your "one true dog's" vaccinations up to date, he never would have been in a position to be euthanized by incompetent workers.


I wondered what the internet perfection brigade would identify as the slight deviation which should be used to negate any empathy we might have for the person.
2012-11-02 08:07:26 AM  
4 votes:

Earguy: Horrible, yes, but what else can you ask for? A cash settlement too? No matter what, you can't get your dead loved one back.


Sure you can, you just need to pick the right burial plot.

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kid_icarus: Well that and attacking pizza delivery girls.


It doesn't say he attacked her, it says he jumped on her. He probably scratched her in the process of trying to be overly friendly. Dogs do this sometimes, it happens.

Since so many people are such pantywaist morons anymore and piss their pants if a damn chipmunk runs within twenty feet of them that means quarantine because many jurisdictions, responding to the Great Concern of the aforementioned pantywaist morons, have enacted unnecessarily strict quarantine rules. 

Rabies is a serious disease, but dog "attack" rules in many places are just plain absurd.
2012-11-02 07:35:24 AM  
4 votes:

mr_a: Terrible story and hope it never happens to anyone.

Still, if you had kept your "one true dog's" vaccinations up to date, he never would have been in a position to be euthanized by incompetent workers.


"Still, if you'd picked your child up from school on time, you never would've been in a position for that negligent driver to run a red light and kill you both."
2012-11-02 11:24:37 AM  
2 votes:

frepnog: Tomfoolery Rules Over Logical Living: mcsestretch: If this had been a cat the Internet would have shut down from all the outrage.

A cat was mistakenly euthanized in Massachusetts 5 weeks ago. This type of thing is just really heartbreaking and just makes me wonder how it happens.

give me a break. if your heart is broken over a farking PET, how in the hell do you handle REAL tragedy??

/no, the death of a pet is not a tragedy. Sad? Perhaps. But not tragic.


So your way of dealing with emotional grief is the only way of dealing with emotional grief? I'd kill myself if I had all that responsibility. You should try that.
2012-11-02 08:08:12 AM  
2 votes:
"Extensive retraining" of a few employees wouldn't be enough for me either. I think what he is asking for is perfectly reasonable. If they only put down 5 a week, it shouldn't be a big deal to have a few more administrative steps to help prevent these errors. The article makes it sound like there was a single form that said the dog had 10 days to be adopted out or be put down when it SHOULD have said the dog was under a 10 day quarantine. The kill process should be more involved.
2012-11-02 07:41:00 AM  
2 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Earguy: Horrible, yes, but what else can you ask for? A cash settlement too? No matter what, you can't get your dead loved one back.

/didn't read the article

The dog's owner doesn't want a settlement. All he's asking for is just an assurance that this won't happen again.


It should be easy to guarantee they won't kill that dog a second time.
2012-11-02 07:30:59 AM  
2 votes:
Terrible story and hope it never happens to anyone.

Still, if you had kept your "one true dog's" vaccinations up to date, he never would have been in a position to be euthanized by incompetent workers.
2012-11-03 11:57:17 PM  
1 votes:

Atypical Person Reading Fark: They hired someone who was not mature enough to deliver pizza. That's all I need. It's bad enough with the postmen.


That makes no sense...

The pizza person is paid to deliver, there's no hazard pay, no special disposition under contract they have to accept any risk of injury.

If I was providing a service and had to go to someone's house, they bear responsibility to prevent risk of injury. Having their dog jump me is NOT acceptable and if I felt in away way injured, or in any sort of risk, and they should be reported and the matter investigated.

The pizza place probably have some sort of insurances and such, and if something was to come out of it, they would be the ones in trouble.

So again... The owner screwed up... Sad for the dog, but it wouldn't have happened if he would have controlled or trained his dog.

Honestly, if someone is coming to your house and your dog isn't restrained and goes to jump on them, if it turned out to be a cop dropping by for some sort of reason (neighbor complained about noise), if they pulled out gun and killed it, I would NOT hold the cop in the wrong at all.

Guess you can't understand the legal aspect of all this
2012-11-02 10:30:40 PM  
1 votes:

Atypical Person Reading Fark: Yeah, but would actually involve authorities if a dog jumped on you? Seriously?

I sure wouldn't order from that pizza company again and I'm sure I'd have nothing but irritable things to say about the entire restaurant.


Depending of the situation, hell yes I would.

And that you put any blame on the pizzeria? What the hell did they do wrong?
2012-11-02 02:23:46 PM  
1 votes:

jst3p: Sorry, pets are property. The fact that some people treat them differently does not change that. I smash your TV with a baseball bat, you get replacement value of the TV. I accidentally kill your cat, you get a new cat. I accidentally kill your kid, you could win a million dollar settlement. A pet is closer to a TV than a kid, legally.


Legal status =! moral status, as any LGBT person can tell you.

I mentioned miscarriage because in that case the lost child doesn't even *have* a perceptible uniqueness/personality beyond the hopes a parent ascribes to it, and is (usually) replaceable. People still grieve, though, and that grief goes rightly unquestioned most of the time. Not sure grief over a pet with uniqueness and a greater emotional connection is any less meaningful.
2012-11-02 01:41:59 PM  
1 votes:

frepnog: hould you grieve the loss of a pet? sure, people get attached. i am quite attached to mine. should it devastate you, break your heart, and leave you so saddened that life seems less bright? NO. The death of a pet should do little more than prepare you for the loss of actual human companions; kids, parents, friends, so that you are familiar with death and can deal.

I can and will buy another dog. I can not replace my mother, my son, my wife.

You shouldn't get so bent out of shape over something so easily replaceable. Grieve, sure, but don't let grief overcome you over a pet.


You do know that dogs (and cats and most other mammals... and some non-mammals) have distinct personalities, right? They are not interchangeable. I feel sad for your dog, who seems to mean no more to you than a nice TV might.

You shouldn't get so bent out of shape over something so easily replaceable.

Try saying that to someone who's suffered a miscarriage and let me know how it goes!
2012-11-02 01:07:43 PM  
1 votes:

calm like a bomb: There is pretty much no such thing as a "no-kill" shelter. All of them do euthanize animals- the difference is that some euthanize based on some time rubric, and some euthanize based on health and adoptability of the animal. No "no-kill" shelter is going to deal long term with an aggressive, unsocialized dog, and nor should they. They also aren't going to put themselves on the hook for an elderly cat with chronic renal disease. Bottom line- this was a paperwork error, and a tragedy, but there is no shelter anywhere that will ever completely eliminate the chances of this happening again.


Best Friends Animal Sanctuary
Will deal long term with aggressive, unsocialized animals.
Will put themselves on the hook for elderly cats with chronic renal disease (and the like).

It's not cheap, but it is possible.

As for the callous folks in this thread...
No, pets are not humans. That said: a good pet trusts you, loves you, relies on you, plays with you, comforts you, helps you. It has its own distinct personality. It is your devoted companion. Why on earth would people not be expected to grieve over its loss? Why would it be unfair for pet owners to be awarded pain and suffering costs for a negligent or malicious death?
2012-11-02 01:05:10 PM  
1 votes:

bluefelix: "Extensive retraining" of a few employees wouldn't be enough for me either. I think what he is asking for is perfectly reasonable. If they only put down 5 a week, it shouldn't be a big deal to have a few more administrative steps to help prevent these errors. The article makes it sound like there was a single form that said the dog had 10 days to be adopted out or be put down when it SHOULD have said the dog was under a 10 day quarantine. The kill process should be more involved.


I think the problem was stated that there was a step missed like checking a box. I don't think adding more steps will help. It sounds like the default condition is to euthenize animals at the end of a quarantine and it takes "a positve action" like checking the box to stop it. All they have to do is change it to where the default is to not euthenize animals and that it takes "a positive action" like checkng a box to kill an animal. With maybe a next level sign-off to make sure. That way, two people would have had to have their heads up their asses to screw up.
2012-11-02 12:58:14 PM  
1 votes:

PoochUMD: The dog probably jumped up on her and nipped her and broke the skin, hence the quarantine. Had the dog been up to date on it's shots, the quarantine wouldn't have been necessary. On the flip side, had the dog who wasn't up to date on it's shots contracted rabies from a squirrel or something earlier that day, the mandated quarantine could have saved the delivery girls life.


A quick search shows that the rabies vaccine is good in dogs for up to three years. The shortest one is certified for is two years. Governments that require annual boosters are either being excessively paranoid(dog close to needing shot again runs away/goes feral is still protected for 1-2 years), or lazy about updating the rules.

BTW found one site that confused rabies with the Flu. There may be different strains of the virus, but the vaccine is effective on all of them and doesn't get yearly revisions like the flu shot does.
2012-11-02 12:46:40 PM  
1 votes:

frepnog: That means that while they are great animals and all, there were dogs before them and there will be dogs after and letting oneself get distraught over a replaceable animal is a bit much.


This describes perfectly how I feel about other humans. You aren't special. Your kids aren't special either. I don't give a flying fark if any of you die an excruciating death. Some piece of human trash will shiat out another waste of oxygen to replace you soon enough.
2012-11-02 10:26:10 AM  
1 votes:

zeg: frepnog: elseways you could successfully sue someone that runs over your pet in the street for "pain and suffering"

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Mayhaps you desire to draw attention to yourself by using obscure, faux-archaic words?

I'd have thought "otherwise" would have done nicely. In any case, there's a profound difference between hitting a dog that runs into the street unexpectedly and injecting poison into a quarantined dog. Believe it or not, it's possible for a judge to distinguish between these two scenarios.


and believe it or not, any judge worth his robes would still only award replacement costs (or loss if income possibly if it was a working animal).

guys - some of you really take your pets a bit too seriously. I love my dogs but they are just that - dogs.

//some of you people talk about pets as if they are people. Talk to a parent that has lost a child about how much it hurts to lose a PET. Get some farking perspective.
2012-11-02 09:47:44 AM  
1 votes:
I can't help but feel that that there had to be better ways for the shelter to distinguish animals that are being held for a known owner from animals that are strays. I mean for Christ's sake a farking COLLAR would not be too hard to notice, would it? Or a tagging system for the cage?

The shelter obviously has some seriously flawed operating procedures and gaps in oversight/authorization. I'm guessing it probably occurred because nobody at the shelter wants to deal with euthanizing animals so they turn a blind eye to it and don't want to be involved. That's how nobody else noticed that they were dealing with the wrong dog.
2012-11-02 09:38:48 AM  
1 votes:
I'm trying really hard to have sympathy over a dog that bites strangers getting iced. If the owner really loved his dog he would have trained it properly to not attack people playfully or not. The rest of the word does not enjoy having a large, strange animal lunging at them.
2012-11-02 09:23:13 AM  
1 votes:
I'm no animal rights advocate, but "euthanized" is really the wrong term. To euthanize implies that you are ending something's life to end pain and suffering. You euthanize a horse that has a broken leg because it is physically unable to recover. You euthanize grandma with a bolus of morphine because that stroke has left her a vegetable with zero chance of recovery. You don't euthanize a dog that there isn't enough room in a shelter for. You killing it; you're culling it. You're not ending it's life as a favor to the animal--You're killing it because you can't take care of it.
2012-11-02 08:49:54 AM  
1 votes:

MurphyMurphy: yes owner, you aren't his/her parent ffs


I just say human. He's my dog, I'm his human. It's a special kind of relationship, different but similar to parent/child.
2012-11-02 08:32:35 AM  
1 votes:
You all are much nicer than I am. If you "accidentally euthanize" my dog, I'll sue you into the ground and make sure whoever was in charge never works again.

/Assuming its from laxity, if there's some bizarre, completely understandable reason, I'll just sue you
2012-11-02 08:25:20 AM  
1 votes:

PoochUMD: Cold_Sassy: Jumped on a pizza delivery driver? He just wanted some food. Didn't bite, didn't growl -- WTF how is this interpreted as aggression?!? Who reported it?

Also, in the state where I live my dog only gets a rabies shot every two years, because the vaccine is effective that long, and giving a dog a rabies shot a year can cause skin lesions and other problems.

Thank God I don't live in that stupid state because (as much as I try to discourage it) my dog has jumped up on a couple of people but didn't ever hurt anyone.

There's likely more to the story than "jumped on a pizza delivery driver." A dog simply jumping up on someone isn't a story, especially for a delivery person who encounters dogs all the time. Any of those people your dog jump on but didn't hurt ever say "Don't worry, I don't want to press charges."?

The dog probably jumped up on her and nipped her and broke the skin, hence the quarantine. Had the dog been up to date on it's shots, the quarantine wouldn't have been necessary. On the flip side, had the dog who wasn't up to date on it's shots contracted rabies from a squirrel or something earlier that day, the mandated quarantine could have saved the delivery girls life.


Yes, you have a good point. In reading the article, the "reporter" makes no mention of any injuries, so I suppose they're either trying to start some trouble or just plain stupid about reporting, which seems to happen quite a bit nowadays. And no, nobody has ever said that Don't worry thing, either.
2012-11-02 08:22:55 AM  
1 votes:

Snarfangel: kid_icarus: mr_a: Terrible story and hope it never happens to anyone.

Still, if you had kept your "one true dog's" vaccinations up to date, he never would have been in a position to be euthanized by incompetent workers.

Well that and attacking pizza delivery girls.

I can guarantee the pizza guy was told "But he never attacks anyone!" after being jumped.


As a former pizza delivery boy, I can tell you that every vicious dog that nearly takes your leg off is, "...a big baby who just wants to play and wouldn't hurt anyone."
2012-11-02 08:18:37 AM  
1 votes:

Cold_Sassy: Jumped on a pizza delivery driver? He just wanted some food. Didn't bite, didn't growl -- WTF how is this interpreted as aggression?!? Who reported it?

Also, in the state where I live my dog only gets a rabies shot every two years, because the vaccine is effective that long, and giving a dog a rabies shot a year can cause skin lesions and other problems.

Thank God I don't live in that stupid state because (as much as I try to discourage it) my dog has jumped up on a couple of people but didn't ever hurt anyone.


There's likely more to the story than "jumped on a pizza delivery driver." A dog simply jumping up on someone isn't a story, especially for a delivery person who encounters dogs all the time. Any of those people your dog jump on but didn't hurt ever say "Don't worry, I don't want to press charges."?

The dog probably jumped up on her and nipped her and broke the skin, hence the quarantine. Had the dog been up to date on it's shots, the quarantine wouldn't have been necessary. On the flip side, had the dog who wasn't up to date on it's shots contracted rabies from a squirrel or something earlier that day, the mandated quarantine could have saved the delivery girls life.
2012-11-02 08:16:55 AM  
1 votes:

Cold_Sassy: Jumped on a pizza delivery driver? He just wanted some food. Didn't bite, didn't growl -- WTF how is this interpreted as aggression?!? Who reported it?


Probably the doctor that treated whatever wounds the driver sustained. If the driver didn't want to report it, and the owner certainly didn't, then that's pretty much the only way Animal Control gets involved.

Crappy outcome, the shelter certainly should take a beating over this.
2012-11-02 08:12:34 AM  
1 votes:

bluefelix: "Extensive retraining" of a few employees wouldn't be enough for me either. I think what he is asking for is perfectly reasonable. If they only put down 5 a week, it shouldn't be a big deal to have a few more administrative steps to help prevent these errors. The article makes it sound like there was a single form that said the dog had 10 days to be adopted out or be put down when it SHOULD have said the dog was under a 10 day quarantine. The kill process should be more involved.


Totally this.
2012-11-02 08:12:28 AM  
1 votes:

tbhouston: Umm.. you know animals are not people right?


I know this is a troll 1/10, just because I am responding

My cat is every bit possessing of the rights of a creature on this planet. Same as you and me.
2012-11-02 07:34:38 AM  
1 votes:

mr_a: Terrible story and hope it never happens to anyone.

Still, if you had kept your "one true dog's" vaccinations up to date, he never would have been in a position to be euthanized by incompetent workers.


Well that and attacking pizza delivery girls.
2012-11-02 07:03:15 AM  
1 votes:
Horrible, yes, but what else can you ask for? A cash settlement too? No matter what, you can't get your dead loved one back.

/didn't read the article
 
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