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(Today)   Because shrinks don't have enough real mental illnesses to deal with, Nail biting will soon be listed as an obsessive-compulsive disorder in the DSM-V   (todayhealth.today.com) divider line 76
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2012-11-02 05:48:39 AM
Apparently, submitter's idea of mental illness was gained after watching "One Flew Over the Coo-coo's Nest"
 
2012-11-02 05:54:37 AM
Well, yeah. I suppose it could be.
 
2012-11-02 07:57:41 AM
When you've seen someone bite them down to where they're regularly bleeding all over the place, and there's only a small crescent of nail left down near the moon because they've done it so many years, it's kinda an issue.

/
 
2012-11-02 08:58:54 AM
See I thought I was being more lazy farkive than obsessive compulsive
 
2012-11-02 09:00:18 AM
Oh, look, Dr. Dipshiatmitter has an opinion.
 
2012-11-02 09:00:23 AM
my buddy does that, i would rather have someone be an excessive compulsive liar than do that. that be nasty
 
2012-11-02 09:01:07 AM
Meaning a behavior consistent with OCD? Yeah, if they're bleeding from it, it's a problem and if they can't stop biting for pathological fear of something horrible happening, it's consistent with OCD. Calm down.
 
2012-11-02 09:01:28 AM
My nail biting is completely utilitarian.
 
2012-11-02 09:01:57 AM
I don't know. I spent most of my first three decades on this earth with my nails chewed down to the quick. When did I finally stop? Interestingly, when I finally got my diet under control and started a major weight loss. Haven't bitten in over two years and have no desire to.
 
2012-11-02 09:02:16 AM
Submitter is an idiot

/that is all
 
2012-11-02 09:05:30 AM
I only bite my nails if they're long enough to be annoying when I type. It took me years to figure this out, but now if I keep my nails trimmed I never bite. I just trim when I have the urge to bite.

I also love to chew ice. Curious if there's a connection.
 
2012-11-02 09:09:40 AM
I just got a Rx for a pedicure and a manicure and my health plan pays for it under the mental health section. There's still no cure for acute metrosexual hipsterism

i73.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-02 09:11:12 AM
There are a number of OCD-related issues that lots of people balk at. Sad, really, as the people who really suffer from them are often misunderstood and relegated to live amongst many who will not or cannot understand that they are suffering at all.  Subby may not feel like nail-biting is an issue, but someone already pointed out that some people compulsively do it until they bleed and there just isn't any nail left to bite. Aside form the obvious physical issues surrounding some of these disorders, there are a number of emotional and psychological issues that are frequently unseen and often marginalized by those who do not suffer from these conditions.
 
2012-11-02 09:14:18 AM
Just another excuse to give people brain drugs.

...Not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
2012-11-02 09:14:27 AM
Because shrinks don't have enough patients, Submitter shall be listed as a DSM-VI.
 
2012-11-02 09:17:44 AM
I only date girls who compulsivly suck their thumbs.
 
2012-11-02 09:19:59 AM

vudukungfu: I only date girls who compulsivly suck their thumbs.


Get the Hanson pic in here, stat!
 
2012-11-02 09:21:11 AM

Pinchfist: There are a number of OCD-related issues that lots of people balk at. Sad, really, as the people who really suffer from them are often misunderstood and relegated to live amongst many who will not or cannot understand that they are suffering at all.  Subby may not feel like nail-biting is an issue, but someone already pointed out that some people compulsively do it until they bleed and there just isn't any nail left to bite. Aside form the obvious physical issues surrounding some of these disorders, there are a number of emotional and psychological issues that are frequently unseen and often marginalized by those who do not suffer from these conditions.


Yea, so?
 
2012-11-02 09:24:22 AM
Biting your nails is a compulsion. Biting other people's nails? Now THAT'S a mental illness.
 
2012-11-02 09:24:22 AM

Nogale: I don't know. I spent most of my first three decades on this earth with my nails chewed down to the quick. When did I finally stop? Interestingly, when I finally got my diet under control and started a major weight loss. Haven't bitten in over two years and have no desire to.


You know, that happened with me as well. I bit my nails all my life, but just this year I intentionally started to eat better and have lost ~55 lbs, and I too have been able to eliminate the habit. Weird...
 
2012-11-02 09:26:44 AM

BrynnMacFlynn: I only bite my nails if they're long enough to be annoying when I type. It took me years to figure this out, but now if I keep my nails trimmed I never bite. I just trim when I have the urge to bite.

I also love to chew ice. Curious if there's a connection.


Compulsive ice chewing has been linked to iron deficiency. No idea why that is, but it might be worth a blood test or a diet change.

Mmmm... steak with sweet potatoes and spinach salad...
 
2012-11-02 09:29:34 AM
it's own disorder or a symptom, score-point for normal OCD? if it's its own page, then DSMXVII=tehghey.
 
2012-11-02 09:29:41 AM
Fark year dsm

cliff.hostkansas.com
 
2012-11-02 09:30:07 AM
Harvard Medical School....psychiatry

I must be nuts

Yeah, I'm definitely nuts.
 
2012-11-02 09:31:06 AM

vudukungfu: I only date girls who compulsivly suck their thumbs.


only their thumbs?

you're slacking there, bro
 
2012-11-02 09:31:08 AM
Someone must have invented a drug that makes fingernails taste like horseradish.
 
2012-11-02 09:32:06 AM
Ah, DSM-V, the "zero tolerance policy" for health care providers.
 
2012-11-02 09:34:12 AM

Pinchfist: There are a number of OCD-related issues that lots of people balk at. Sad, really, as the people who really suffer from them are often misunderstood and relegated to live amongst many who will not or cannot understand that they are suffering at all.  Subby may not feel like nail-biting is an issue, but someone already pointed out that some people compulsively do it until they bleed and there just isn't any nail left to bite. Aside form the obvious physical issues surrounding some of these disorders, there are a number of emotional and psychological issues that are frequently unseen and often marginalized by those who do not suffer from these conditions.


Get the hell out of here with your cognizant and reasonable rationale.

SSB= When I was a kid, there was this other kid who chewed his nails to the nubs. He was a friend of mine and all the other kids. We loved him, as far as that went. I asked him once, " Why do you do that?" And he responded, "Do what?" "Bite your nails like that." "I don't." I said, "Yes you do, You're doing it right now." He said, "Oh this? It doesn't hurt." "You're bleeding," I said. He chewed harder and told me it was nothing.

Then we went back to class and I became a guitarist.
 
2012-11-02 09:34:56 AM
Just ya'll wait for ICD10

It's coming your way soon....
 
2012-11-02 09:37:24 AM

namegoeshere: BrynnMacFlynn: I only bite my nails if they're long enough to be annoying when I type. It took me years to figure this out, but now if I keep my nails trimmed I never bite. I just trim when I have the urge to bite.

I also love to chew ice. Curious if there's a connection.

Compulsive ice chewing has been linked to iron deficiency. No idea why that is, but it might be worth a blood test or a diet change.

Mmmm... steak with sweet potatoes and spinach salad...


See, that's the thing; my iron levels are always about normal.
 
2012-11-02 09:38:53 AM
I have no idea what the big deal is, so I'm going to hate on submitter.

/Not really.
//Going to wash my hands now.
 
2012-11-02 09:39:09 AM

BrynnMacFlynn: namegoeshere: BrynnMacFlynn: I only bite my nails if they're long enough to be annoying when I type. It took me years to figure this out, but now if I keep my nails trimmed I never bite. I just trim when I have the urge to bite.

I also love to chew ice. Curious if there's a connection.

Compulsive ice chewing has been linked to iron deficiency. No idea why that is, but it might be worth a blood test or a diet change.

Mmmm... steak with sweet potatoes and spinach salad...

See, that's the thing; my iron levels are always about normal.


Huh. Maybe your're just whack then.

; ) I keed, I keed...
 
2012-11-02 09:49:34 AM

MemeSlave: Ah, DSM-V, the "zero tolerance policy" for health care providers.


Cue up the 'Let's rewrite the fark out of the definition for autism to cut down the numbers' chorus.

Seriously though, you speak truth. After the Autism thing pretty much being motivated by insurers, I'm not inclined to give a fark about what the DSM says.
 
2012-11-02 09:50:22 AM
DSM 5: THERE WILL BE DRUGS

paid for by the public...infested by drug company shills...

from the people who brought you "Prozac Patriot" and "the Placebo Suicides"..

coming soon to a qwack house near you!
 
2012-11-02 09:51:29 AM

Local_User: Pinchfist: There are a number of OCD-related issues that lots of people balk at. Sad, really, as the people who really suffer from them are often misunderstood and relegated to live amongst many who will not or cannot understand that they are suffering at all.  Subby may not feel like nail-biting is an issue, but someone already pointed out that some people compulsively do it until they bleed and there just isn't any nail left to bite. Aside form the obvious physical issues surrounding some of these disorders, there are a number of emotional and psychological issues that are frequently unseen and often marginalized by those who do not suffer from these conditions.

Get the hell out of here with your cognizant and reasonable rationale.

SSB= When I was a kid, there was this other kid who chewed his nails to the nubs. He was a friend of mine and all the other kids. We loved him, as far as that went. I asked him once, " Why do you do that?" And he responded, "Do what?" "Bite your nails like that." "I don't." I said, "Yes you do, You're doing it right now." He said, "Oh this? It doesn't hurt." "You're bleeding," I said. He chewed harder and told me it was nothing.

Then we went back to class and I became a guitarist.


It's funny. I can't pick up tiny things with my left hand now, like tiny screws, but I'm not crazy because I play guitar.

/guitar
 
2012-11-02 09:56:10 AM

Haliburton Cummings: DSM 5: THERE WILL BE DRUGS

paid for by the public...infested by drug company shills...

from the people who brought you "Prozac Patriot" and "the Placebo Suicides"..

coming soon to a qwack house near you!


People who obsessively create alts should get a DSM entry...
 
2012-11-02 09:58:37 AM

Haliburton Cummings: DSM 5: THERE WILL BE DRUGS

paid for by the public...infested by drug company shills...

from the people who brought you "Prozac Patriot" and "the Placebo Suicides"..

coming soon to a qwack house near you!


Is your original login any fun?
 
2012-11-02 09:58:58 AM
Can I go on disability if I bite my nails then?
 
2012-11-02 10:00:24 AM

KarmicDisaster: Can I go on disability if I bite my nails then?


If they get infected enough that your fingers rot off, probably.
 
2012-11-02 10:03:15 AM

Kinek: MemeSlave: Ah, DSM-V, the "zero tolerance policy" for health care providers.

Cue up the 'Let's rewrite the fark out of the definition for autism to cut down the numbers' chorus.

Seriously though, you speak truth. After the Autism thing pretty much being motivated by insurers, I'm not inclined to give a fark about what the DSM says.


Did anyone other than the bureaucrats take DSM seriously?

I never used it for anything other than a comedy routine or thirteen myself....
 
2012-11-02 10:04:17 AM

namegoeshere: KarmicDisaster: Can I go on disability if I bite my nails then?

If they get infected enough that your fingers rot off, probably.


Well, that seems a bit harsh, how about institutionalized then?
 
2012-11-02 10:04:20 AM

The Muthaship: Haliburton Cummings: DSM 5: THERE WILL BE DRUGS

paid for by the public...infested by drug company shills...

from the people who brought you "Prozac Patriot" and "the Placebo Suicides"..

coming soon to a qwack house near you!

Is your original login any fun?


*blinks innocently*
 
2012-11-02 10:11:35 AM
My step son does this bad, real bad. Has had a couple of infections. During a soccer game, will play with this hands in his mouth the entire time. It sucks. Tried everything I can think of. The nasty nail polish? He gagged, then accepted it. Anyone have any real suggestions?

I am thinking of making him wear boxing gloves around like Strongbad at this point.
 
2012-11-02 10:13:53 AM

KarmicDisaster: namegoeshere: KarmicDisaster: Can I go on disability if I bite my nails then?

If they get infected enough that your fingers rot off, probably.

Well, that seems a bit harsh, how about institutionalized then?


Well, okay, if that's what you want. But why not start with some good meds? You can definitely get meds out of this.
 
2012-11-02 10:15:25 AM

namegoeshere: KarmicDisaster: namegoeshere: KarmicDisaster: Can I go on disability if I bite my nails then?

If they get infected enough that your fingers rot off, probably.

Well, that seems a bit harsh, how about institutionalized then?

Well, okay, if that's what you want. But why not start with some good meds? You can definitely get meds out of this.


What about some kind of rehab program in Hawaii? I could see that. Plus I might need a lot of work.
 
2012-11-02 10:22:51 AM

KarmicDisaster: namegoeshere: KarmicDisaster: namegoeshere: KarmicDisaster: Can I go on disability if I bite my nails then?

If they get infected enough that your fingers rot off, probably.

Well, that seems a bit harsh, how about institutionalized then?

Well, okay, if that's what you want. But why not start with some good meds? You can definitely get meds out of this.

What about some kind of rehab program in Hawaii? I could see that. Plus I might need a lot of work.


I can totally see you as the next reality TV trainwreck: Intervention - Nail Biters

Let the cameras take over your life and show you in the most horrible light possible, and then let your friends and family corner you in a little room and tell you how they love you so much but your nail biting is ruining your life and theirs and if you don't stop they'll cut you out of their lives completely, and it's off to Hawaii for you!

The closing "Three Months Later" scene will be a shiny, happy, tanned you in the nail salon getting a manicure and talking about how you feel whole for the first time in your life.

IT'S A WINNER!
 
2012-11-02 10:24:51 AM
Hmm...never thought of it that way, but it probably is. Once I get some jagged feature on one of my nails it is extremely hard to stop biting at it, and once you bite a nail once it always has some jagged edge on it somewhere. This feeds on itself until things start to get painful.

The only way I've been able to get it under control is to have a nail file on me at all times. If I keep them filed smooth, it breaks the compulsion to pick at a rough spot with my teeth.
 
2012-11-02 10:29:15 AM
For a collective group that knows a whole lot about a broad spectrum of topics, the word "disorder" vexes the sh*t out of Farkers. Any behavior, pretty much done repeatedly, regularly, and to the point of significant, measurable detriment to your life and/or health can be disordered. It doesn't mean, by any stretch of the imagination that every behavior is a disorder.

Example: Based on the disorder alcoholism...
1. I had a drink; am I an alcoholic?
2. I had ten drinks; am I an alcoholic?
3. I had ten drinks every day of this vacation; am I an alcoholic?
4. I had ten drinks every day of this pregnancy; am I an alcoholic?

Biting your nails is no different. If you nibble nails as a nervous habit, but don't cut into your cuticles or quick, or knowingly ingest any toxins that you work with, then you aren't disordered. If you're repeatedly harming yourself, then yeah, you have a problem.
 
2012-11-02 10:38:33 AM

Thunderpipes: My step son does this bad, real bad. Has had a couple of infections. During a soccer game, will play with this hands in his mouth the entire time. It sucks. Tried everything I can think of. The nasty nail polish? He gagged, then accepted it. Anyone have any real suggestions?

I am thinking of making him wear boxing gloves around like Strongbad at this point.


Color nail polish. Reward him for keeping it on.

It may work, and even if it doesn't, he'll shift from being that nail-biter kid to that kid with-the-crazy-parent, which should benefit the development of his personal identity.
 
2012-11-02 10:39:31 AM

Farkbert: The only way I've been able to get it under control is to have a nail file on me at all times. If I keep them filed smooth, it breaks the compulsion to pick at a rough spot with my teeth.


That is good news for you. And there you've described well the difference between a mere compulsion and a disorder.
 
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