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2012-11-02 07:38:58 AM
www.starskyandhutchonline.com
 
2012-11-02 07:43:41 AM
let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

/you're doing it wrong
//OBEY
 
2012-11-02 07:55:06 AM
Do deer hunters accidentally trip and fall and impale themselves on deer antlers as often as they are accidentally shot by their dogs?
 
2012-11-02 07:59:37 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-02 08:05:04 AM
Hunting would be so much more interesting if it was an equal battle. I'd actually watch those early morning hunting shows......especially man vs turkey
 
2012-11-02 08:07:20 AM
FTFA: The spokeswoman says the hunters had a tag that allowed them to shoot the bear legally.

But apparently the tag did not allow them to shoot the bear well. :D
 
2012-11-02 08:16:51 AM

OhioUGrad: Hunting would be so much more interesting if it was an equal battle. I'd actually watch those early morning hunting shows......especially man vs turkey


Not fair! Turkeys have spectacular eyesight. A turkey with a .308 at range would clear the field of hunters before he could say, "Jack Sprat".
 
2012-11-02 08:23:40 AM
...you didn't really come here to hunt, did you?
 
2012-11-02 08:56:22 AM
I like stories where hunted animals fight back.

It takes a truly courageous man to hunt helpless animals for pleasure.

When the animals are armed and capable of shooting back then that will be an accomplishment
 
2012-11-02 08:56:58 AM
A bëår once hugged my sister ...
 
2012-11-02 09:00:46 AM
"...the two rolled down a 50-foot embankment with the bear biting Machavo all the way."

That's a funny image to me. Cartoonish.


Probably not to Machavo.
 
2012-11-02 09:03:46 AM

ltdanman44: I like stories where hunted animals fight back.

It takes a truly courageous man to hunt helpless animals for pleasure.

When the animals are armed and capable of shooting back then that will be an accomplishment


It's illegal to hunt your fellow man for sport.

Here.
 
2012-11-02 09:11:29 AM

ltdanman44: It takes a truly courageous man to hunt helpless animals for pleasure.


Actually, you should be celebrating those people, that is, if you like to have animals, and the habitat they live in preserved.

That's because sport hunters put their money where their muzzles are and actually *SPEND* real dollars, either directly through organizations like Ducks Unlimited and the Wildlife Conservancy to preserve and protect wildlife habitat, or indirectly through license fees and the Pittman-Robertson excise tax on guns, ammo, bows, etc.

People who enjoy hunting want to keep on doing it, and they want healthy populations of the kinds of animals they hunt. In preserving habitat for those animals, they also benefit non-game species that live in those same habitats.

All of the extinctions and near extinctions that have hunting at their cause have either been due to market hunting (hunting for a profit), or subsistence hunting (hunting purely for food). Regulated sport hunting generally leads to increases in game populations, not decreases.
 
2012-11-02 09:23:28 AM

dittybopper: ltdanman44: It takes a truly courageous man to hunt helpless animals for pleasure.

Actually, you should be celebrating those people, that is, if you like to have animals, and the habitat they live in preserved.

That's because sport hunters put their money where their muzzles are and actually *SPEND* real dollars, either directly through organizations like Ducks Unlimited and the Wildlife Conservancy to preserve and protect wildlife habitat, or indirectly through license fees and the Pittman-Robertson excise tax on guns, ammo, bows, etc.

People who enjoy hunting want to keep on doing it, and they want healthy populations of the kinds of animals they hunt. In preserving habitat for those animals, they also benefit non-game species that live in those same habitats.

All of the extinctions and near extinctions that have hunting at their cause have either been due to market hunting (hunting for a profit), or subsistence hunting (hunting purely for food). Regulated sport hunting generally leads to increases in game populations, not decreases.


I don't have a problem with hunters that trim populations, I take issue with the hunter who believes they accomplished something spectacular because they shot something
 
2012-11-02 09:25:00 AM
Well, he does have a right to bear arms
 
2012-11-02 09:33:26 AM
FTFA

The spokeswoman says the hunters had a tag that allowed them to shoot the bear legally.

Heh, could you imagine, "Damn buddy, I'd love to help you with your problem but I'm not legally allowed to shot that bear eating your head. Well, see ya!"
 
2012-11-02 09:39:09 AM

ltdanman44: I don't have a problem with hunters that trim populations, I take issue with the hunter who believes they accomplished something spectacular because they shot something


And those are *PRECISELY* the ones that you should be celebrating. The guys who go after trophy bucks (or any trophy-sized animal) are the ones that dump a ton money into conservation. Those are the ones who pass up a spikehorn because they've got an 8-point minimum. They don't just shoot whatever happens to cross their path.

Me, I'm a bit different: I've made it tougher on myself not by going after bigger trophies, but by using primitive methods. I use a flintlock rifle or hickory longbow only. This year, I even managed to make up an arrow using a head I knapped out of obsidian, but it was unfortunately too small a head to be legal for deer or bear hunting, so it's just a display arrow. Of course, the local Iroquois didn't have to contend with such regulations, and they used small heads for large game. Next year I hope to go with all flint/glass/obsidian knapped heads for archery season.

/Build all my own arrows.
 
2012-11-02 09:41:33 AM

wildstarr: FTFA

The spokeswoman says the hunters had a tag that allowed them to shoot the bear legally.

Heh, could you imagine, "Damn buddy, I'd love to help you with your problem but I'm not legally allowed to shot that bear eating your head. Well, see ya!"


Actually, if he was being actively mauled, you don't need a tag to shoot it.

Say your buddy has a bear tag, but you don't*. He shoots the bear, and the bear starts mauling him. You can kill the bear to save him.

*In my state, big game license comes with both a deer and a bear tag automatically.
 
2012-11-02 09:53:55 AM

dittybopper: ltdanman44: I don't have a problem with hunters that trim populations, I take issue with the hunter who believes they accomplished something spectacular because they shot something

And those are *PRECISELY* the ones that you should be celebrating. The guys who go after trophy bucks (or any trophy-sized animal) are the ones that dump a ton money into conservation. Those are the ones who pass up a spikehorn because they've got an 8-point minimum. They don't just shoot whatever happens to cross their path.

Me, I'm a bit different: I've made it tougher on myself not by going after bigger trophies, but by using primitive methods. I use a flintlock rifle or hickory longbow only. This year, I even managed to make up an arrow using a head I knapped out of obsidian, but it was unfortunately too small a head to be legal for deer or bear hunting, so it's just a display arrow. Of course, the local Iroquois didn't have to contend with such regulations, and they used small heads for large game. Next year I hope to go with all flint/glass/obsidian knapped heads for archery season.

/Build all my own arrows.


I glad you enjoy your hobby. But for me, I have never had the need to make myself feel better because I killed something.
 
2012-11-02 10:16:04 AM

Joelogon: ...you didn't really come here to hunt, did you?


hehehe, awesome.
 
2012-11-02 10:34:13 AM
Make sure you kill the bear with the hidden blade so you complete the hunting challenge.
 
2012-11-02 10:45:25 AM
Hunting=Penileinsecurity
 
2012-11-02 10:49:50 AM

stevarooni: OhioUGrad: Hunting would be so much more interesting if it was an equal battle. I'd actually watch those early morning hunting shows......especially man vs turkey

Not fair! Turkeys have spectacular eyesight. A turkey with a .308 at range would clear the field of hunters before he could say, "Jack Sprat".


this is why i love fark: learning fascinating bits of trivia along

ltdanman44: dittybopper: ltdanman44: I don't have a problem with hunters that trim populations, I take issue with the hunter who believes they accomplished something spectacular because they shot something

And those are *PRECISELY* the ones that you should be celebrating. The guys who go after trophy bucks (or any trophy-sized animal) are the ones that dump a ton money into conservation. Those are the ones who pass up a spikehorn because they've got an 8-point minimum. They don't just shoot whatever happens to cross their path.

Me, I'm a bit different: I've made it tougher on myself not by going after bigger trophies, but by using primitive methods. I use a flintlock rifle or hickory longbow only. This year, I even managed to make up an arrow using a head I knapped out of obsidian, but it was unfortunately too small a head to be legal for deer or bear hunting, so it's just a display arrow. Of course, the local Iroquois didn't have to contend with such regulations, and they used small heads for large game. Next year I hope to go with all flint/glass/obsidian knapped heads for archery season.

/Build all my own arrows.

I glad you enjoy your hobby. But for me, I have never had the need to make myself feel better because I killed something.


not that he needs me to speak for him, but anyone that spends that much effort probably (i'm guessing ABSOLUTELY) eats ALL of that critter

and this fellow probably (again... leaning toward ABSOLUTELY from the photos he posts) makes clothes / rugs from the hides.

/bit more than a hobby
 
2012-11-02 11:01:52 AM

Lesbian-Jesus: Hunting=Penileinsecurity


Hunting=Yummy deer meat.

The only reason I can really see for doing it. (Beside that you just enjoy killing things, which if that's your thing, I guess it's better you're shooting animals). Certianly not for cheaper food. By the time you buy all the hunting gear, that meat costs more that what you can get in the store. You can't really buy deer meat anywhere (that I know of) so I can see hunting for that, but you can just go to Food Lion and buy a Goddamn turkey, and not have to get up at 4am.

Thats really the reason I don't hunt. I don't like getting up early.
But if I did hunt....I think I'd hunt cows. Much easier. First you don't have to wait around in the cold ass-woods. I know of at least 3 places within 40 minutes where there is guaranteed to be cows. Second, you don't have to worry about scent, sound, and camoflauge. Just hop the fence, walk to about 20 feet from the nearest bovine, and BLAM! You just bagged yourself a cow.
 
2012-11-02 11:14:49 AM
If you go hunting with Dick Cheney and you get shot in the face, are you doing it correctly?
 
2012-11-02 11:29:58 AM
I have a fiver that says this kid never hunted bear before....
 
2012-11-02 12:03:54 PM

ltdanman44: dittybopper: ltdanman44:
I don't have a problem with hunters that trim populations, I take issue with the hunter who believes they accomplished something spectacular because they shot something


You have no idea of the work involved. Especially here in Alaska. It is an accomplishment and an adventure that ignorant people like yourself dont understand.
 
2012-11-02 12:59:38 PM

inner ted: not that he needs me to speak for him, but anyone that spends that much effort probably (i'm guessing ABSOLUTELY) eats ALL of that critter

and this fellow probably (again... leaning toward ABSOLUTELY from the photos he posts) makes clothes / rugs from the hides.

/bit more than a hobby


Actually, because the littlebopper and distaffbopper don't care for venison, when I do get one, I end up giving almost all the meat away. Since I'm the only one who will eat it, I only keep the choicest cuts.

Generally, I don't tan the hides either.

I've actually thought long and hard about why I hunt, and I've come to the conclusion that it scratches a primitive, predatory instinct that is inside all of us. We may not want to acknowledge it, we may try to suppress it, we may sublimate it and turn it to some other pursuit, but it's there nonetheless.

It's not the act of killing, either, though the *POTENTIAL* for that to happen is a necessary part of the process. If it were merely the act of killing, I'd work in a slaughterhouse. Ortega y Gassett perhaps said it most succinctly: "One does not hunt in order to kill, one kills in order to have hunted". I don't mind getting skunked so much. It makes me want to be a better hunter, and even if I don't see a single animal worthy of a shot (or within range - I stopped using my .30'06 because I could make 200+ yard shots with it), I still consider it to be a successful day.
 
2012-11-02 01:10:55 PM

ltdanman44: I glad you enjoy your hobby. But for me, I have never had the need to make myself feel better because I killed something.


You should be encouraging me, and others like me, because it is we who are protecting the environment by participating in it. And by "we", I include trophy hunters. *ESPECIALLY* trophy hunters. If it weren't for hunters, there would be a lot less wild land in the US. It would be largely limited to federal and state parks, and there would be fewer of them.

If you discourage us from hunting, we won't have any incentive to protect those animals and that habitat, to the detriment of all the animals that live in those areas, and to the detriment of all humans.
 
2012-11-02 01:17:17 PM

dittybopper: inner ted: not that he needs me to speak for him, but anyone that spends that much effort probably (i'm guessing ABSOLUTELY) eats ALL of that critter

and this fellow probably (again... leaning toward ABSOLUTELY from the photos he posts) makes clothes / rugs from the hides.

/bit more than a hobby

Actually, because the littlebopper and distaffbopper don't care for venison, when I do get one, I end up giving almost all the meat away. Since I'm the only one who will eat it, I only keep the choicest cuts.

Generally, I don't tan the hides either.

I've actually thought long and hard about why I hunt, and I've come to the conclusion that it scratches a primitive, predatory instinct that is inside all of us. We may not want to acknowledge it, we may try to suppress it, we may sublimate it and turn it to some other pursuit, but it's there nonetheless.

It's not the act of killing, either, though the *POTENTIAL* for that to happen is a necessary part of the process. If it were merely the act of killing, I'd work in a slaughterhouse. Ortega y Gassett perhaps said it most succinctly: "One does not hunt in order to kill, one kills in order to have hunted". I don't mind getting skunked so much. It makes me want to be a better hunter, and even if I don't see a single animal worthy of a shot (or within range - I stopped using my .30'06 because I could make 200+ yard shots with it), I still consider it to be a successful day.


which is why i prefaced my rambling with 'i don't speak for him'
cause i was waaay off - but i suppose it don't take a big leap of faith to think that many hunters act as i describe.

as to what makes a 'bad day hunting better than a good day working' kind of thought - hell, i get that... it's called 'camping' and i enjoy it too.

limiting yourself on technology gets a nod from me. using bows & muskets has to be more challenging than powerful rifles with scopes that can see across the continent. i guess when muskets and bows get too easy, you move on to taking them down with a knife?

what really drives it is the 'hunt' & this i get. while it may seem silly, i often experienced this (emotion? sensation?) while working as loss prevention (plain clothes security) in the mall. when they got away, it sucked, but the game was still fun.

it was fun & rewarding to 'bag' the badguy though. (95% violence free for those that care)

it's not always about shooting or hurting / killing - it's about stalking prey & it's a hoot.
 
2012-11-02 01:57:09 PM
limiting yourself on technology gets a nod from me. using bows & muskets has to be more challenging than powerful rifles with scopes that can see across the continent. i guess when muskets and bows get too easy, you move on to taking them down with a knife?



This is an idiotic statement. I shoot a 300 Ultramag. I have a Leupold Mark 4 LTR scope with mil dot reticle. The gun has been squared, lugs lapped and head space corrected. The trigger has been replace with a timney adjustable. I shoot hand loaded 210gr berger VLD bullets. I shoot less than MOA at 800+ yards.

Why? Because being able to shoot that far doesnt mean I will. Hunting with a flint lock doesnt make you a better hunter. At least up here hunting is part survival part work. Its always raining or snowing, 0-50 degrees 500 miles from civilization, 300 miles from your last cellphone tower. Sometimes you spend 10 days trying to wait out a storm with 80 mph winds. Some days you have perfect weather.

Add in fish and game regs to the mix. Is that bull moose 50" or larger? Does he have 3 or 4 brow tines? Are you in the right drainage? what might be legal on this side of the creek may not be on that side. How far can you pack a moose? each quarter is 200-250lbs. That's about 6 trips and 7 for the antlers/skull. It takes about 4-8 hrs to even properly field dress one.

Where do you go to find a legal moose? Caribou? What game unit have you drawn and paid for a tag? Has it been closed by emergency order?

My last Caribou hunt was 500 mile drive, 35 mile 4 wheel ride over some very tough passes and 5 days on top of a mountain before I spotted a bull. Then it was a 600 yard shot in 25mph wind. Needless to say I had my math wrong and missed. My hunting partner did hit his on his second shot 7mm Mag. When we went to check his out, we found that someone had shot one near his (no one around anywhere close) and dropped it. Perfect shot. We checked the animal out and he was still good. So I used my tag to harvest him. 225lbs of bone meat. 6 hrs of field dressing 2 animals on the side of a mountian where it was 200 and 300 yard hike to the trail at a 30 degree incline. By the time we were done it was 11 pm and 12 degrees. we slept for 8 hrs and packed up. Now an additional 200lbs on the 4wheeler over some extreme terrain was a 9 hour ride back to the trailhead. We stopped and stayed in a small town called Salana. it was the first night we had heat and a shower It was glorious. All in all the trip was 1000 miles, 100+ miles on the 4 wheeler, 500$ in fuel, one rolled 4 wheeler, one broken Nikkor 300mm lens, exhaustion, freezing and success. I also have some of the most beautiful pictures of Alaska I've ever taken.

So did my rifle make it "easy"?
 
2012-11-02 02:03:24 PM

inner ted: i guess when muskets and bows get too easy, you move on to taking them down with a knife?


Atlatl actually, if NYS ever approves of their use:

img160.imageshack.us

In the mean time, I'm shifting over to arrows like this:

i45.tinypic.com

i45.tinypic.com

I still carry this head around in my pocket (I dulled the edges), because I was so proud of it, being my first "good" arrowhead I made:

i56.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-02 02:12:24 PM

MythDragon: Lesbian-Jesus: Hunting=Penileinsecurity

Hunting=Yummy deer meat.

The only reason I can really see for doing it. (Beside that you just enjoy killing things, which if that's your thing, I guess it's better you're shooting animals). Certianly not for cheaper food. By the time you buy all the hunting gear, that meat costs more that what you can get in the store. You can't really buy deer meat anywhere (that I know of) so I can see hunting for that, but you can just go to Food Lion and buy a Goddamn turkey, and not have to get up at 4am.

Thats really the reason I don't hunt. I don't like getting up early.
But if I did hunt....I think I'd hunt cows. Much easier. First you don't have to wait around in the cold ass-woods. I know of at least 3 places within 40 minutes where there is guaranteed to be cows. Second, you don't have to worry about scent, sound, and camoflauge. Just hop the fence, walk to about 20 feet from the nearest bovine, and BLAM! You just bagged yourself a cow.


Don't try hunting the beeves on my property.

They're trained killers.

(have to be. they live among wolves, bears and coyotes)
(but that is a funny comment)
 
2012-11-02 02:14:59 PM

An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: limiting yourself on technology gets a nod from me. using bows & muskets has to be more challenging than powerful rifles with scopes that can see across the continent. i guess when muskets and bows get too easy, you move on to taking them down with a knife?



This is an idiotic statement. I shoot a 300 Ultramag. I have a Leupold Mark 4 LTR scope with mil dot reticle. The gun has been squared, lugs lapped and head space corrected. The trigger has been replace with a timney adjustable. I shoot hand loaded 210gr berger VLD bullets. I shoot less than MOA at 800+ yards.

Why? Because being able to shoot that far doesnt mean I will. Hunting with a flint lock doesnt make you a better hunter. At least up here hunting is part survival part work. Its always raining or snowing, 0-50 degrees 500 miles from civilization, 300 miles from your last cellphone tower. Sometimes you spend 10 days trying to wait out a storm with 80 mph winds. Some days you have perfect weather.

Add in fish and game regs to the mix. Is that bull moose 50" or larger? Does he have 3 or 4 brow tines? Are you in the right drainage? what might be legal on this side of the creek may not be on that side. How far can you pack a moose? each quarter is 200-250lbs. That's about 6 trips and 7 for the antlers/skull. It takes about 4-8 hrs to even properly field dress one.

Where do you go to find a legal moose? Caribou? What game unit have you drawn and paid for a tag? Has it been closed by emergency order?

My last Caribou hunt was 500 mile drive, 35 mile 4 wheel ride over some very tough passes and 5 days on top of a mountain before I spotted a bull. Then it was a 600 yard shot in 25mph wind. Needless to say I had my math wrong and missed. My hunting partner did hit his on his second shot 7mm Mag. When we went to check his out, we found that someone had shot one near his (no one around anywhere close) and dropped it. Perfect shot. We checked the animal out and he was still good. So I used my tag to harvest him. ...


short answer: yes, your hi power rifle made it easier - sorry to hurt your feelers

long anwer: yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssss

hi power rifles and mega scopes make it easier - all the other blathering you did to make yourself feel better is not really relevant as you'd have to do the same if you were bow / musket hunting -

it's just that YOU don't have to get near as close to take your shot - which makes it easier

kinda like a fish finder
 
2012-11-02 02:21:24 PM

An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: Hunting with a flint lock doesnt make you a better hunter.


Absolutely true.

In fact, I know much better hunters than I, and they think I'm crazy. And to a certain extent, they are right. I just want to do things differently. Doesn't make me any better or worse. Just different.
 
2012-11-02 02:31:27 PM

dittybopper: An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: Hunting with a flint lock doesnt make you a better hunter.

Absolutely true.

In fact, I know much better hunters than I, and they think I'm crazy. And to a certain extent, they are right. I just want to do things differently. Doesn't make me any better or worse. Just different.


sorry dude, but i have to take the 'disagree for $200 chuck'

having to get closer with a far less accurate weapon = more difficult

which is why the idea of hunting with a knife seems ludicrous.

or to put it in bicycle terms:

riding up the same hill is tougher with this:
mtobikes.com

than with this:
upload.wikimedia.org

same activity - different equipment = scales of difficulty
 
2012-11-02 03:11:20 PM

inner ted: dittybopper: An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: Hunting with a flint lock doesnt make you a better hunter.

Absolutely true.

In fact, I know much better hunters than I, and they think I'm crazy. And to a certain extent, they are right. I just want to do things differently. Doesn't make me any better or worse. Just different.

sorry dude, but i have to take the 'disagree for $200 chuck'

having to get closer with a far less accurate weapon = more difficult

which is why the idea of hunting with a knife seems ludicrous.

or to put it in bicycle terms:

riding up the same hill is tougher with this:
[mtobikes.com image 800x533]

than with this:
[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x562]

same activity - different equipment = scales of difficulty


Whether something is harder or not doesn't mean that I'm necessarily better at it than others. I know plenty of hunters who use modern equipment and who are better hunters than I. I have to accept more limitations on what I can accomplish because of my chosen equipment, but that doesn't make me more skilled necessarily. It just means I've handicapped myself. I hunt with a guy who can consistently get closer to deer than I can. If he could keep from flinching when shooting my rifle*, he'd be just as deadly as he is with his .270.


*They are jokingly called "flinchlocks" for a reason.
 
2012-11-02 03:31:01 PM

dittybopper: inner ted: dittybopper: An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: Hunting with a flint lock doesnt make you a better hunter.

Absolutely true.

In fact, I know much better hunters than I, and they think I'm crazy. And to a certain extent, they are right. I just want to do things differently. Doesn't make me any better or worse. Just different.

sorry dude, but i have to take the 'disagree for $200 chuck'

having to get closer with a far less accurate weapon = more difficult

which is why the idea of hunting with a knife seems ludicrous.

or to put it in bicycle terms:

riding up the same hill is tougher with this:
[mtobikes.com image 800x533]

than with this:
[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x562]

same activity - different equipment = scales of difficulty

Whether something is harder or not doesn't mean that I'm necessarily better at it than others. I know plenty of hunters who use modern equipment and who are better hunters than I. I have to accept more limitations on what I can accomplish because of my chosen equipment, but that doesn't make me more skilled necessarily. It just means I've handicapped myself. I hunt with a guy who can consistently get closer to deer than I can. If he could keep from flinching when shooting my rifle*, he'd be just as deadly as he is with his .270.


*They are jokingly called "flinchlocks" for a reason.


well, as my old man told me long ago: if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle

& not sure if you are just trying to be overly modest - but come on - you are intentionally making something more challenging - if all other variables are equal, but you use a rock and i use a tank, i'm going to give you the nod as being better at it
 
2012-11-02 04:42:53 PM
short answer: yes, your hi power rifle made it easier - sorry to hurt your feelers

long anwer: yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssss

hi power rifles and mega scopes make it easier - all the other blathering you did to make yourself feel better is not really relevant as you'd have to do the same if you were bow / musket hunting -

it's just that YOU don't have to get near as close to take your shot - which makes it easier

kinda like a fish finder


Proves that you know shiat about hunting. Of course only now do I realize Im being trolled.

Either that or you think hunting is like Call of duty where you just zoom in your scope and pull the trigger.
 
2012-11-02 05:06:38 PM

inner ted: well, as my old man told me long ago: if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle


Not in Thailand.

& not sure if you are just trying to be overly modest - but come on - you are intentionally making something more challenging - if all other variables are equal, but you use a rock and i use a tank, i'm going to give you the nod as being better at it


Nope.

To use your bicycle analogy: If I have a fixed gear bike, and I make it up the hill, then yeah, it's more difficult. If I get off halfway up the hill and walk it up the rest of the way, I'm not any better. Or if I avoid large hills in the first place, because I know I won't make it up, I'm no better, even if I could make it up using a bike with multiple gears.

But you know what, I'm still pissed that NYS won't let me use my mortar for hunting:

i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-02 05:36:53 PM

An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: short answer: yes, your hi power rifle made it easier - sorry to hurt your feelers

long anwer: yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssss

hi power rifles and mega scopes make it easier - all the other blathering you did to make yourself feel better is not really relevant as you'd have to do the same if you were bow / musket hunting -

it's just that YOU don't have to get near as close to take your shot - which makes it easier

kinda like a fish finder

Proves that you know shiat about hunting. Of course only now do I realize Im being trolled.

Either that or you think hunting is like Call of duty where you just zoom in your scope and pull the trigger.


lulz

all your lengthy explanation does ZERO to prove your point

you blather on and on about hiking through the woods / having to carve up and pack out your kill / wind / being lonely

but you apparently can't understand that the fellow with a musket or bow must endure the same things

AND MORE

they must get closer
they must be quieter
they have to stalk their prey MORE THAN YOU DO

that makes it more difficult - i.e. they are better at it than you are

perhaps there is a group you can join that gives sympathy to your plight

but to me, you sound like a whiny biatch at the bar who is trying to impress everyone

but you aren't very impressive
 
2012-11-02 05:40:35 PM

dittybopper: inner ted: well, as my old man told me long ago: if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle

Not in Thailand.

& not sure if you are just trying to be overly modest - but come on - you are intentionally making something more challenging - if all other variables are equal, but you use a rock and i use a tank, i'm going to give you the nod as being better at it

Nope.

To use your bicycle analogy: If I have a fixed gear bike, and I make it up the hill, then yeah, it's more difficult. If I get off halfway up the hill and walk it up the rest of the way, I'm not any better. Or if I avoid large hills in the first place, because I know I won't make it up, I'm no better, even if I could make it up using a bike with multiple gears.

But you know what, I'm still pissed that NYS won't let me use my mortar for hunting:

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sir you make my point for me

and if you could take out a deer with a freaking home built mortar, then you are master hunter and should have your own video game
 
2012-11-02 06:13:23 PM

JackieRabbit: I have a fiver that says this kid never hunted bear before....


Well, from TFA, he didn't intend to. And some might say he still hasn't.
 
2012-11-02 09:20:27 PM

inner ted: and if you could take out a deer with a freaking home built mortar, then you are master hunter and should have your own video game


Actually, that wouldn't take much: Crank it down to minimum elevation, and instead of using a can half-full of cement, load it with musket balls. Wait until deer walks in front of it, and fire it.
 
2012-11-02 09:55:37 PM
Well, why not handicap hunting like golf? If par for a hunt is a modern rifle, then just let the more primitive weapons count for more! If a flintlock is used instead of a 30-06, then the hunter gets 1.5 times as many points! A modern compound bow would give you 2 times as many, a longbow, 2.5 times... jeeze, you're missing out on a lot. You could be shooting 24-pointers!
 
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