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(Bloomberg)   If you live in a pro-choice area, you're getting a Romney ad supporting a woman's right to choose. If you live in a pro-life area, you're getting an OMG, Obama is a baby killer ad   (bloomberg.com ) divider line 32
    More: Asinine, Mitt Romney, Susan B. Anthony List, Marjorie Dannenfelser, obama, U.S. presidential, Illinois Senate, change of position, Planned Parenthood  
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2012-11-02 07:45:33 AM  
4 votes:

phenn: Just call it pro or anti abortion. That is the subject at hand. I don't understand why people cringe at those terms.


Because it's quite possible for someone to personally be against abortion, but still believe women should be able to "choose" whether they want to have the procedure or not?
2012-11-02 08:26:20 AM  
3 votes:
What happened to Fast & Furious? The Republicans have acted for a long time like it was the biggest scandal in US history but once the incident in Libya took place, they totally forgot about it. They were like a kid who got bored with a toy once a new one came along. It's almost as if they see governance as a fun game to play rather than serious business for grownups.
2012-11-02 07:18:17 AM  
3 votes:
The Obvious tag would fit here nicely.

Romney is a complete fraud, a billionaire plutocrat to wants the presidency, well, just because. Maybe Ann demanded it one day: "I want to live in that quant little White House!"

The most sickening fraudulent campaign ever. The number one reason Romney shound't win: We can't encourage this really bad behavior. 

And if a campaign can win like this, forget it. All future campaigns will be awash in lies, deceit and cynicism.
2012-11-02 04:57:41 PM  
2 votes:

cchris_39: Dear Libs,

The fact that we don't think other people should be forced to pay for your birth control pills does not mean that we are against you taking birth control pills. In fact, please do.


Great idea, can I stop paying for your Viagra?
2012-11-02 11:34:06 AM  
2 votes:

amd1433: Everything you need to know about Romney's views on a woman's right to choose, right here, from the man himself.

If you have any doubts on wherer he stands, take a look.


Oh, come on. At best, that is where he stood. By the time it takes to put a video on YouTube, Romney could have changed his position a dozen times.
2012-11-02 11:30:06 AM  
2 votes:
Since nobody likes abortion and it's been proven that anti-abortion laws don't actually reduce the number of abortions, the two sides of the issue should really be labeled as Anti-Safe-Abortion and Anti-Unsafe-Abortion.
2012-11-02 08:45:49 AM  
2 votes:

badhatharry: It's similar to gun rights. Pro-gun people


Not really. It's very common to be "pro-gun". Someone who is pro-gun is in in favor of guns. They're not simply against restrictions- they want to have guns, fire guns, etc. They want others to join them in that. The number of people who, by that metric, are pro-abortion is vanishingly small.
2012-11-02 08:44:44 AM  
2 votes:

phenn: SuperTramp: shotglasss There is no such thing as "pro-abortion," dumbass. It's MY uterus, it's MY CHOICE.

Just call it pro or anti abortion. That is the subject at hand. I don't understand why people cringe at those terms.


Because most people aren't "pro-abortion". I personally think that abortion is a sad thing and I'd prefer that it wasn't a choice that some women have to make.

BUT I believe it should be legal and safe because it's not my body and the alternatives are worse.
2012-11-02 08:36:12 AM  
2 votes:
2012-11-02 08:21:12 AM  
2 votes:

moothemagiccow: Yet you don't sound like you think they're following the right code either; forgive me if I'm wrong.


They are, if it is for them. Where I personally get a bit miffed is when people lobby the government for laws that require me to live by the rules of their belief systems. That's not how it's supposed to work.

Sharing a thought or spiritual leaning is one thing. Forcing it on me is quite another.
2012-11-02 07:35:17 AM  
2 votes:
shotglasss There is no such thing as "pro-abortion," dumbass. It's MY uterus, it's MY CHOICE.
2012-11-02 07:32:08 AM  
2 votes:

badhatharry: Romney pretends to be pro-life. Obama covers up terrorist attacks. Both sides are bad.


Because nobody EVER died at an embassy or consulate under a Republican president! And how is 'Calling it an act of terror shortly after the attack, and assisting the Libyan government in catching almost every member of the group involved in the attack' covering it up again?

Oh, wait, right. Obama was somehow personally supposed to, within a few hours, mobilize an air-strike and have a C-130 spray gunfire into a crowd when a good chunk of the region is already pissed at us because the Christian fundies can't help waving their cocks at the Muslim fundies.
2012-11-03 02:39:19 AM  
1 vote:

cchris_39: Dear Libs,

The fact that we don't think other people should be forced to pay for your birth control pills does not mean that we are against you taking birth control pills. In fact, please do.


If old guys get blue bills so they still get it up and also take baths outside, women should be able to get pills that let them have sex without the fear of pregnancy.
2012-11-02 01:15:03 PM  
1 vote:

badhatharry: t3knomanser: phenn: Just call it pro or anti abortion. That is the subject at hand. I don't understand why people cringe at those terms.

Because nearly no one is actually pro-abortion. Some people admit the practical necessity and the importance of letting women control their reproductive future. Some people are ideologically opposed.

It's similar to gun rights. Pro-gun people don't want any restrictions and pro-abortion people don't want any restrictions. Because they know wherever you draw the line, the other side will still want more restrictions.


Well, yes, except if you want a gun and are having trouble getting one, there's no time limit on that. Not to mention no one picketing outside gun stores.

But if you want or medically need an abortion, and excessive restrictions and aggressive protests have led to few to no doctors in your state performing them, you have a time limit to get yourself somewhere that does. That can be a big burden on someone who's poor and needs to work.
2012-11-02 11:48:49 AM  
1 vote:
Everyone knows that both sides of Mitt Romney are bad.
2012-11-02 09:12:46 AM  
1 vote:

amd1433: Everything you need to know about Romney's views on a woman's right to choose, right here, from the man himself.

If you have any doubts on wherer he stands, take a look.


Any coincidence that Mitt keeps saber rattling about Iran and wanting to move lockstep with Netanyahu and also believes that the second coming of Jesus is happening soon during a time where there is a mass slaughter of Jews?
2012-11-02 09:12:12 AM  
1 vote:

shotglasss: LeoffDaGrate: shotglasss: Full disclosure: Obama has said that babies should be denied health care. Romney has never said that.

badhatharry: Romney pretends to be pro-life. Obama covers up terrorist attacks. Both sides are bad.


Translation: "We've got absolutely no defense for Romney on this issue, so... What's that?!? Look over there!" *run away*

That's also known as the Bhangazi defense.

And I still don't get why being for abortion is called prochoice. I have yet to see a fetus choose to sign a doctor's release allowing the kid to be killed and vacuumed out of it's house.


because fetus =/= person, that's why.
2012-11-02 09:04:29 AM  
1 vote:
People who believe that Romeny and the GOP would support a pro-choice agenda shouldn't be allowed to vote. Undecided (and most partisan) voters are willfully ignorant.
2012-11-02 09:00:15 AM  
1 vote:

EvilEgg: I don't know why the insincere "I did a little research" type ads annoy me more than most.


There's a radio ad running here about one of the propositions on the ballot; supposed to sound like 2 women discussing the issue over coffee or some such. One tells the other "it says here that this proposition will kill jobs". Says here? Where's here? You mean it says that in your script?
2012-11-02 08:30:57 AM  
1 vote:
EngineerAU: What happened to Fast & Furious?

Flavor of the week. F&F wasn't panning out so they tried capitalizing on a more current event, especially since it occurred so close to the election. I already knew that they were forcing a non-scandal, but today I heard a pretty good synopsis of the Libya events on NPR and there really is nothing to the story.
2012-11-02 08:20:38 AM  
1 vote:

GameSprocket: Since none of Romney's defenders are going to mention it and I am a stickler for context, one the "Romney is a moderate" ad actually comes from the Romney campaign. The other is from a PAC.


I would care about that context if not for the fact that Mitt Romney is an absolutely unabashed liar and there's no chance in hell he doesn't support that ad anyway. You know... what with his only actual campaign platform plank being "whatever helps me get votes right this minute".

The fact that the Romney camp isn't actually running the ad is a hollow bit of context considering that it's exactly the sort of shiat he says anyway.
2012-11-02 08:20:33 AM  
1 vote:

Skleenar: As part of the attack on Obama and his support for abortion rights, the ads feature a woman who says she is the survivor of a failed abortion and a nurse who says she saved aborted babies born alive.

o_O

The earliest a baby can realistically survive out of the womb is 23 weeks, or about the end of the second trimester, but that's with a really low survival rate and likely birth defects or other complication.

Most places in the US disallow abortions after the first trimester. There are a few that allow them up to 24 weeks, but those are very rare and usually limited to cases where the mother's health is in jeopardy.

So, either this woman is describing something that happened in another country, or to a mother who's life was in danger or is a vanishingly rare occurrence, cited merely for emotional effect.


You're talking about someone in an ad for a Republican. There's a decent chance that she just made the whole thing up.
2012-11-02 08:16:18 AM  
1 vote:
Karac

wickershamsconscience.files.wordpress.com

people all pissed that Obama said "clinging to their guns and religion" and yet here we are
2012-11-02 08:16:09 AM  
1 vote:
2012-11-02 08:12:45 AM  
1 vote:

phenn: Just call it pro or anti abortion. That is the subject at hand. I don't understand why people cringe at those terms.


Because nearly no one is actually pro-abortion. Some people admit the practical necessity and the importance of letting women control their reproductive future. Some people are ideologically opposed.
2012-11-02 07:54:23 AM  
1 vote:

moothemagiccow: keylock71: phenn: Just call it pro or anti abortion. That is the subject at hand. I don't understand why people cringe at those terms.

Because it's quite possible for someone to personally be against abortion, but still believe women should be able to "choose" whether they want to have the procedure or not?

Yeah I wish people would shut up about abortion and talk about less expensive methods of birth control. Abortion isn't half as important as poverty or education.


It is stunningly important to people who want you to live by their moral code instead of your own.
2012-11-02 07:50:16 AM  
1 vote:

keylock71: phenn: Just call it pro or anti abortion. That is the subject at hand. I don't understand why people cringe at those terms.

Because it's quite possible for someone to personally be against abortion, but still believe women should be able to "choose" whether they want to have the procedure or not?


Yeah I wish people would shut up about abortion and talk about less expensive methods of birth control. Abortion isn't half as important as poverty or education.
2012-11-02 07:25:56 AM  
1 vote:

moothemagiccow: badhatharry: Romney pretends to be pro-life. Obama covers up terrorist attacks. Both sides are bad.

I still don't understand who bought that "movie protest" bullshiat. And who the fark brings a rocket launcher to a protest?


You do realize that post-civil war Libya and the United States are slightly different, don't you? And as for who brings military equipment to a protest, I'll leave you with this:
i411.photobucket.comi.huffpost.comwickershamsconscience.files.wordpress.com1.bp.blogspot.com
2012-11-02 07:13:59 AM  
1 vote:
It's worse than that... If I watch network television, I get the Romney supports abortion ad. If I listen to the Glenn Beck/Limbaugh/Hannity radio station, I get the Obama is a baby killer ad.

Yay for living in Ohio!
2012-11-02 07:10:12 AM  
1 vote:
Governor Windsock strikes again.
2012-11-02 06:17:16 AM  
1 vote:
I don't know why the insincere "I did a little research" type ads annoy me more than most.
2012-11-02 02:47:47 AM  
1 vote:
The GOP, Romney, knows not the feeling of shame.

/so we have to do feel it for them
 
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