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(Guardian)   Obama Secret Service bodyguard found dead in apparent suicide. Initial clues suggest he threw himself under a bus   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 28
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2012-11-02 11:16:29 AM
4 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: So if I'm reading tfa right, if you are a member of the secret service, you have to REPORT who you're boinking to your boss? Wtf is up with that?


That's the way it is in a lot of agencies. It is so they can confirm you aren't sleeping with any enemy intelligence agents or terrorists.
2012-11-02 11:25:17 AM
3 votes:
The article does not mention that he was also married.
The thought of dealing with a family implosion and the shame that goes along with it is enough for some guys to pull the plug.
2012-11-02 11:22:04 AM
3 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: So if I'm reading tfa right, if you are a member of the secret service, you have to REPORT who you're boinking to your boss? Wtf is up with that?


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Dark secrets are useful for blackmailing/controlling people. If you are openly gay you can get a clearance, if you are a closeted gay then you will not get a clearance.

I find it disturbing that politicians with access to classified information are not held up to the same clearance standards as We The People.

///Google "clearance with lifestyle poly" for a real eye opener.
2012-11-02 11:25:48 AM
2 votes:

LegacyDL: Let me get this straight: A 20 year career man kills himself because of some woman he was boinking?

Seeing as how this is happening in DC I'm calling BS.


Nobody said it was a woman.
2012-11-02 11:23:27 AM
2 votes:

EZ Writer: In many sensitive government positions, you have to report *any* personal or professional contact with foreign nationals. Hell, even mine, and I'm less than no one - and I'm certainly not taking a bullet for my boss. They beat it into you ad nauseam, so there's no way he could play the "I didn't know" card. But suicide over early retirement, or worse, being fired? Maybe she was really fat... I don't know.


The suicide leads me to believe maybe she was more than just a foreign national? They're not gonna just tell the news that, yes, there was a breach.
2012-11-02 11:21:09 AM
2 votes:

Leisure Suit Larry: Was it just a foreign national or was it a foreign diplomat? If you work for the secret service you can only have sex with americans? I understand patriotism but that's a little harsh don't you think?


That isn't what the words say.

He was in trouble for having an unreported relationship with a foreign national. He could do what he wanted, but he needed to give proper notice of the situation so that they knew what was up and could make sure everything checks out.

That said, I'm guessing it was at least somewhat more scandalous than that, given that he decided to eat a bullet over it.
2012-11-02 11:18:26 AM
2 votes:
It's a shame he suicided, though... I'm sure even if your clearance is yanked and you get fired, you can get a good job with a private security firm after 20+ years with the SS.
2012-11-02 11:15:20 AM
2 votes:
The ole suicide by CO poisoning eh. Wonder what he knew.
2012-11-02 11:15:05 AM
2 votes:
suicide. yeah that's it.

/didn't know they let crazy people into the secret service.
2012-11-02 10:33:44 PM
1 votes:

vudukungfu: Apparently, men, and only men, can be swayed by the crazy they stick their dicks into.


Battered women who insist the guy really loves them or won't do it again = evidence it's not just men who have this problem.
2012-11-02 12:08:09 PM
1 votes:

Kuroshin: Would have been caught long ago. Intelligence and Security positions aren't like your everyday job. You don't get to just go about your business, do your job, then clock out all private like. You are always monitored. Spooks interview your family, neighbors, coworkers, everybody. Your boss can, at any time, know exactly where your head is at and if you're behaving outside the norm.

Essentially, you have the least amount of privacy experienced by anybody on the entire globe. You aren't just some goon, you're security for the friggin' POTUS.


While I agree that the scrutiny is intense, it's incorrect to think that depression is always detectable. It can be a devastating problem but for all of that it is one that is easy to hide. It's not like alcoholism or a drug addiction, or having an affair which can all leave tangible evidence. It's intensely personal and utterly internalised. It simply is not detectable if the sufferer doesn't want it to be.
2012-11-02 11:44:25 AM
1 votes:
It sounds like he sucked lead because his actions were destroying his family, not that it was a security issue, but that is the reason why SS have to report the foreign tail they're getting. So no Anna Chapman can pussy whip them into spying on or killing the Prez.
2012-11-02 11:37:13 AM
1 votes:
He couldn't live knowing the truth about how Breitbart died.
2012-11-02 11:36:35 AM
1 votes:

Dear Jerk: Some people are saying that he cried out for help as he did it, and Obama watched from the control room on his Dick Tracy wrist television and laughed and laughed, even though he had Willie Horton stationed on a swift boat just 2 blocks away.


You left out a reference to Vince Foster, so I will give that 8/10
2012-11-02 11:33:31 AM
1 votes:
Hmmm.... so either the guy was facing the probable end of his career, public humiliation, etc. and decided that suicide was the best way out, -OR- it's a vast government conspiracy. The guy probably saw that Obama was meeting with the Lizard People and, because the man was a true patriot that loved and served his nation faithfully, the president feared that he would tell the media, so he had the guy murdered by his personal cadre of elite assassins.
2012-11-02 11:28:31 AM
1 votes:

Primitive Screwhead: Bit'O'Gristle: So if I'm reading tfa right, if you are a member of the secret service, you have to REPORT who you're boinking to your boss? Wtf is up with that?

In the 80's they all listed Morgan Fairchild.


In all fairness, that was a great piece of ass. 

/and she could suck the sand out of concrete
2012-11-02 11:26:12 AM
1 votes:
Oh lord, the derp from this is going to stretch on for years. Someone at Snopes is having a stroke right now.
2012-11-02 11:25:10 AM
1 votes:

TheBigJerk: That he liked pussy.


Maybe it wasn't pussy.
2012-11-02 11:23:59 AM
1 votes:
Let me get this straight: A 20 year career man kills himself because of some woman he was boinking?

Seeing as how this is happening in DC I'm calling BS.
2012-11-02 11:20:49 AM
1 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: So if I'm reading tfa right, if you are a member of the secret service, you have to REPORT who you're boinking to your boss? Wtf is up with that?


Same way that if you're in intelligence and marry a foreign national, or even a non-native born US citizen, they're going to get a background investigation just about as thorough as yours.
2012-11-02 11:20:43 AM
1 votes:
If he suicided, chances are that said foreign national went un-reported for a reason. The reason being she was a spy.

Actually that's bullshiat, I don't really know, I just like baseless speculation and bloviating on the intarwebz.
2012-11-02 11:18:12 AM
1 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: So if I'm reading tfa right, if you are a member of the secret service, you have to REPORT who you're boinking to your boss? Wtf is up with that?


In many sensitive government positions, you have to report *any* personal or professional contact with foreign nationals. Hell, even mine, and I'm less than no one - and I'm certainly not taking a bullet for my boss. They beat it into you ad nauseam, so there's no way he could play the "I didn't know" card. But suicide over early retirement, or worse, being fired? Maybe she was really fat... I don't know.
2012-11-02 11:18:05 AM
1 votes:
Rafael Prieto had been undergoing administrative proceedings for having an unreported romantic relationship with a foreign national, a law enforcement source told Reuters.

Was it just a foreign national or was it a foreign diplomat? If you work for the secret service you can only have sex with americans? I understand patriotism but that's a little harsh don't you think?
2012-11-02 11:17:37 AM
1 votes:

blatz514: Rafael Prieto had been undergoing administrative proceedings for having an unreported romantic relationship with a foreign national, a law enforcement source told Reuters.

That's a fancy way of saying "hooker."


I think they are taking some liberties with the word "romantic"
2012-11-02 11:16:43 AM
1 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: So if I'm reading tfa right, if you are a member of the secret service, you have to REPORT who you're boinking to your boss? Wtf is up with that?


If it's a foreign national, yes. It's a somewhat big deal as far as your security clearance is concerned.
2012-11-02 11:14:16 AM
1 votes:
Rafael Prieto had been undergoing administrative proceedings for having an unreported romantic relationship with a foreign national, a law enforcement source told Reuters.

That's a fancy way of saying "hooker."
2012-11-02 11:14:00 AM
1 votes:
So if I'm reading tfa right, if you are a member of the secret service, you have to REPORT who you're boinking to your boss? Wtf is up with that?
2012-11-02 09:52:19 AM
1 votes:
So I got a pile of tickets to hell over here, can I turn them all in for an upgrade?

/giggle
 
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