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(Gainesville Sun)   Hero: Marine attacks a man for dressing up as a paralyzed vet on Halloween. Florida: The man really is a paralyzed vet. Fark: The Marine was wearing a pink tutu   (gainesville.com ) divider line 155
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2012-11-02 09:36:47 AM  
Once a Marine, always a Marine.
 
2012-11-02 10:51:12 AM  
I've seen a lot of spinals, dude, and this guys a fake. A farking goldbricker
 
2012-11-02 11:00:31 AM  
STAND UP AND FIGHT ME LIKE A MAN, DO YOU EVEN LIFT
 
2012-11-02 11:00:52 AM  
"Hero: Marine attacks a man for dressing up as a paralyzed vet on Halloween"

Why does redneckmitter hate Lt. Dan?
 
2012-11-02 11:01:41 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: I've seen a lot of spinals, dude, and this guys a fake. A farking goldbricker


THREAD OVER
 
2012-11-02 11:02:09 AM  
Someone hit this guy???!!

www.speakinggump.com
 
2012-11-02 11:02:32 AM  
So if I am the sort of person with a 'support our troops' ribbon on my truck, remind me do I think these guys are both heroes?
 
2012-11-02 11:02:47 AM  
People think the Jarheads are stupid, but I'll tell you- it takes a good deal of smarts to be a medic or a chaplain.
 
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2012-11-02 11:03:02 AM  
semper fi.
 
2012-11-02 11:03:02 AM  
Hero: Marine attacks a man for dressing up as a paralyzed vet on Halloween.

You've got a weird definition of "hero", Subby.

/the Marines: keeping America safe from Americans who do something the Marines don't like?
 
2012-11-02 11:03:13 AM  

super_grass: "Hero: Marine attacks a man for dressing up as a paralyzed vet on Halloween"

Why does redneckmitter hate Lt. Dan?


Aww, dammit.

/tiny fist, ect.
//I included a pic at least
 
2012-11-02 11:04:16 AM  

Theaetetus: /the Marines: keeping America safe from Americans who do something the Marines don't like?


Did a Marine piss in your cornflakes this morning?
 
2012-11-02 11:05:00 AM  
As a veteran myself, I'm going to have to guess that 1. Alcohol was (majorly) involved and 2. The Marine was of the junior paygrades.

Let's see how my predictions play out...
 
2012-11-02 11:05:18 AM  

1derful: People think the Jarheads are stupid, but I'll tell you- it takes a good deal of smarts to be a medic or a chaplain.


I see what you did there.
 
2012-11-02 11:05:20 AM  
It's good that the wheelchair guy would rather see the marine do community service than go to jail.
 
2012-11-02 11:06:15 AM  
That is not something a Marine does - they have more self-control," Priotti said.

This guy has apparently known much higher quality Marines than I have met.

Muscles
Are
Required;
Intelligence?
Not
Essential.
 
2012-11-02 11:08:04 AM  
Someone must've ordered a Code Red.
 
2012-11-02 11:08:21 AM  

1derful: People think the Jarheads are stupid, but I'll tell you- it takes a good deal of smarts to be a medic or a chaplain.


Unfortunately the Jarheads borrow their medics from the Squids...
 
2012-11-02 11:09:51 AM  

AirForceVet: Once a Marine, always a Marine.


Army Rangers do it better

*evil grin*
 
2012-11-02 11:10:40 AM  
FTFA: The guy to whom Priotti referred is Christopher Dabney, who police say took offense at what Priotti was wearing - a uniform while in a wheelchair - and attacked Priotti in the restaurant at about 2:20 a.m.

Dabney, 22
, of 111 NW 16th St., Apt. A3, was charged with abuse of the disabled, according to an arrest report.


I stand by my assertions. If he's 22 and already out, he was pretty junior when he left the service.
 
2012-11-02 11:13:16 AM  

i.r.id10t: 1derful: People think the Jarheads are stupid, but I'll tell you- it takes a good deal of smarts to be a medic or a chaplain.

Unfortunately the Jarheads borrow their medics from the Squids...


I believe this is in order...
www.baka-raptor.com
 
2012-11-02 11:13:32 AM  
A true American hero.
 
2012-11-02 11:13:58 AM  
The guy was dressed for halloween as a wounded soldier in a wheelchair with fake blood all over his face.
I'm glad the marine clocked him, even if he was once in the army.

it's like a cop wearing his own uniform on halloween with bullet holes in his chest and head. that's just stupid, and very disrespectful.

/ posing as a wounded, disabled vet is not cool
// where can i contribute to defense fund?
 
2012-11-02 11:14:59 AM  
Temper Fi.

/hopes he has at least an Article 15 waiting him on top of charges
 
2012-11-02 11:15:17 AM  
Alcohol. Is their anything it can't do?
 
2012-11-02 11:15:50 AM  

AirForceVet: Once a Marine, always a Marine.


But once a knight is enough.
 
2012-11-02 11:18:10 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: Theaetetus: /the Marines: keeping America safe from Americans who do something the Marines don't like?

Did a Marine piss in your cornflakes this morning?


No, but he punched out a disabled vet.
 
2012-11-02 11:18:58 AM  
G.I. Derp?
 
2012-11-02 11:19:30 AM  
They don't call them Jarheads for no reason. His jar is apparently empty though.
 
2012-11-02 11:20:06 AM  
stuffpoint.com

It gets the chicks.
 
2012-11-02 11:20:39 AM  
HHAHA this is hilarious! everybody had only the best of intentions and everything backfired and nobody got hurt! the world needs more interactions like this
 
2012-11-02 11:22:04 AM  

hermitage_deux: The guy was dressed for halloween as a wounded soldier in a wheelchair with fake blood all over his face.
I'm glad the marine clocked him, even if he was once in the army.

it's like a cop wearing his own uniform on halloween with bullet holes in his chest and head. that's just stupid, and very disrespectful.

/ posing as a wounded, disabled vet is not cool
// where can i contribute to defense fund?


Yeah disrespectful but by all means he has the right as a US citizen to wear this costume and not get assaulted by people that have sworn to protect him and this country.

Just as I have the right to think you are an asshat.

good day sir!

/I said good day!
 
2012-11-02 11:22:25 AM  

zixr: Someone must've ordered a Code Red.



csalner.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-02 11:24:06 AM  

hermitage_deux: The guy was dressed for halloween as a wounded soldier in a wheelchair with fake blood all over his face.
I'm glad the marine clocked him, even if he was once in the army.

it's like a cop wearing his own uniform on halloween with bullet holes in his chest and head. that's just stupid, and very disrespectful.

/ posing as a wounded, disabled vet is not cool
// where can i contribute to defense fund?


Man, I'm with you here. I do find that to be distasteful. Even for a bona fide disabled veteran.
 
2012-11-02 11:25:22 AM  
Geez, it's not like Marines in pink tutus are an uncommon site. Guy should lose originality points.
 
2012-11-02 11:26:05 AM  
I'm going to bet $100 that alcohol was involved.
 
2012-11-02 11:26:58 AM  
They see me rollin..
 
2012-11-02 11:27:54 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: I've seen a lot of spinals, dude, and this guys a fake. A farking goldbricker


Do you even lift, brah?
 
2012-11-02 11:28:44 AM  

Snarfangel: AirForceVet: Once a Marine, always a Marine.

But once a knight is enough.


Once a night is never enough....
 
2012-11-02 11:30:34 AM  
Camaraderie among armed services and all, I've always gotten a kick out of the Marines mentality. My cousin is the same way, a Marine with a rifle is the most dangerous thing on the planet, Marines are tough as nails and all of that. He's a goddamn wrench turner who has no chance of deployment.

I like to remind him that him that his "pussy Army guy" cousin who has 10 years service over him and multiple ranks would be kicking doors in while he's safe on the tarmac.
 
2012-11-02 11:30:54 AM  

super_grass: "Hero: Marine attacks a man for dressing up as a paralyzed vet on Halloween"

Umm that does not a hero make.
Now if the marine first verifies that the person is not disabled, and that the costume is out of disrespect for the military, then maybe. But unless those are met it is just an idiot who deserves to be brutaly beaten daily until he understands that violence is not always the right answer.
 
2012-11-02 11:31:13 AM  

1derful: People think the Jarheads are stupid, but I'll tell you- it takes a good deal of smarts to be a medic or a chaplain.


Marine "Chaplin" s is not normally possible. The United States Navy Chaplain Corps normally provides chaplins for the marines.
 
2012-11-02 11:31:33 AM  
The core is disappoint, son. A Marine soldier should know better.

/Wife-like typing, etc.
//Semper Fuuuuuuuuu...
///...dge
 
2012-11-02 11:32:59 AM  

Tango_down: Yeah disrespectful but by all means he has the right as a US citizen to wear this costume and not get assaulted by people that have sworn to protect him and this country.


Honestly these guys were both veterans, not retired, and the guy in the wheelchair, while legitimately disabled, was in such a state because of an injury unrelated to his military service.

Effectively, this story should be "drunk idiot assaults man without warning out of misguided sense of patriotism." Their veteran status is about as significant to the story as mine is.

fluffy2097: I'm going to bet $100 that alcohol was involved.


2:20am at the "Pita Pit?" I can't imagine anyone there was close to sober!
 
2012-11-02 11:33:37 AM  
I have a job that what I wear would make a great halloween costume, but I don't wear it on halloween. You know why? Because its my farking uniform!
 
2012-11-02 11:34:51 AM  

1derful: People think the Jarheads are stupid, but I'll tell you- it takes a good deal of smarts to be a medic or a chaplain.


Jarheads don't have medics. They have Squid Corpsmen.
 
2012-11-02 11:35:01 AM  
Priotti told The Sun he served in the Army from 1996-98 and was paralyzed in an accident about 10 years ago that was not military-related.

Okay fellow vets, show of hands, who thinks the uniform is an apropiate holloween costume?

Also, Priotti served a whole two years in the Army, and apparently was not in the Army when paralyzed.
From the moment a person is sworn in, they will be a veteran when they leave the service. Doesn't matter how long or what they did in the service. Thirty days of thirty years.
Maybe some Army people can tell me about two year soldiers. In the Navy they are usaualy unfit for service.
 
2012-11-02 11:35:02 AM  

HatMadeOfAss: The core Corps is disappoint, son. A Marine soldier should know better.

/Wife-like typing, etc.
//Semper Fuuuuuuuuu...
///...dge


FTFY, because I know some jar heads would kick your ass for either of those mistakes.
 
2012-11-02 11:35:39 AM  

sdd2000: 1derful: People think the Jarheads are stupid, but I'll tell you- it takes a good deal of smarts to be a medic or a chaplain.

Marine "Chaplin" s is not normally possible. The United States Navy Chaplain Corps normally provides chaplins for the marines.


FTDA: 1derful: People think the Jarheads are stupid, but I'll tell you- it takes a good deal of smarts to be a medic or a chaplain.

Jarheads don't have medics. They have Squid Corpsmen.


Good job 1derful, that's two of em
 
2012-11-02 11:35:42 AM  
That marine has gotta be feeling the PRIDE.
 
2012-11-02 11:35:47 AM  

1derful: People think the Jarheads are stupid, but I'll tell you- it takes a good deal of smarts to be a medic or a chaplain.


Medics are in the Navy.
 
2012-11-02 11:36:03 AM  
He's just lucky he wasn't driving a taxi.
 
2012-11-02 11:36:12 AM  

sjmcc13: Now if the marine first verifies that the person is not disabled, and that the costume is out of disrespect for the military, then maybe.


Because they fight to protect our freedom, including freedom of speech, and disrespecting them means you should be punished?
 
2012-11-02 11:36:50 AM  

Cpl.D: 1derful: People think the Jarheads are stupid, but I'll tell you- it takes a good deal of smarts to be a medic or a chaplain.

I see what you did there.


Ohhh, now I see.
 
2012-11-02 11:37:02 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: Good job 1derful, that's two of em


It's the gift that just keeps giving.
 
2012-11-02 11:37:38 AM  

Theaetetus: It's the gift that just keeps giving.


I didn't think the Core thing could be topped. This might do it.
 
2012-11-02 11:39:07 AM  

factoryconnection: Effectively, this story should be "drunk idiot assaults man without warning out of misguided sense of patriotism tribalism."


There was no defense of country here. It was simply a (mistakenly) perceived insult to his Marineness.
 
GBB
2012-11-02 11:39:35 AM  
Temper Fi
 
2012-11-02 11:40:40 AM  

hermitage_deux: The guy was dressed for halloween as a wounded soldier in a wheelchair with fake blood all over his face.
I'm glad the marine clocked him, even if he was once in the army.

it's like a cop wearing his own uniform on halloween with bullet holes in his chest and head. that's just stupid, and very disrespectful.

/ posing as a wounded, disabled vet is not cool
// where can i contribute to defense fund?


Lighten up.

As a disabled vet I think it's pretty damn funny that another disabled vet dressed up as a wounded soldier for halloween. He wore a uniform for this country once and has every right to poke fun at the military.
 
2012-11-02 11:41:12 AM  

henryhill: I have a job that what I wear would make a great halloween costume, but I don't wear it on halloween. You know why? Because its my farking uniform!


Normally I'd agree with this. But as a guy in a wheel chair he has to integrate the chair into his costume or people get confused. "A disabled vampire? I don't get it." "No, I'm a regular vampire I just happen to be disabled." So his choices are pretty much limited to disabled vet or Stephen Hawking, and he probably didn't have a Speak-n-Spell available.
 
2012-11-02 11:41:38 AM  

JackieRabbit: HatMadeOfAss: The core Corps is disappoint, son. A Marine soldier should know better.

/Wife-like typing, etc.
//Semper Fuuuuuuuuu...
///...dge

FTFY, because I know some jar heads would kick your ass for either of those mistakes.


I see that you're new here
 
2012-11-02 11:42:04 AM  
I need to work on my headlines more, rather than just rushing to submit something before anyone else does.
 
2012-11-02 11:44:42 AM  

Theaetetus: sjmcc13: Now if the marine first verifies that the person is not disabled, and that the costume is out of disrespect for the military, then maybe.

Because they fight to protect our freedom, including freedom of speech, and disrespecting them means you should be punished?

Depends on the nature of the disrespect...
 
2012-11-02 11:45:54 AM  
This thread in a single picture:

img22.imageshack.us
 
2012-11-02 11:46:02 AM  
Do you know why there are Marines on Navy vessels?


Because sheep would be obvious.

/Is a vet 
//Go Navy Beat Army
 
2012-11-02 11:46:22 AM  

ransack.: hermitage_deux: The guy was dressed for halloween as a wounded soldier in a wheelchair with fake blood all over his face.
I'm glad the marine clocked him, even if he was once in the army.

it's like a cop wearing his own uniform on halloween with bullet holes in his chest and head. that's just stupid, and very disrespectful.

/ posing as a wounded, disabled vet is not cool
// where can i contribute to defense fund?

Man, I'm with you here. I do find that to be distasteful. Even for a bona fide disabled veteran.


Yes, thank God there are drunken former Marines to save us from the scourge of offensive halloween shenanigans.
 
2012-11-02 11:47:22 AM  

Modguy: Cpl.D: 1derful: People think the Jarheads are stupid, but I'll tell you- it takes a good deal of smarts to be a medic or a chaplain.

I see what you did there.

Ohhh, now I see.


Me too, I got trolled really well!
 
2012-11-02 11:48:36 AM  

AugieDoggyDaddy: Priotti told The Sun he served in the Army from 1996-98 and was paralyzed in an accident about 10 years ago that was not military-related.

Okay fellow vets, show of hands, who thinks the uniform is an apropiate holloween costume?

Also, Priotti served a whole two years in the Army, and apparently was not in the Army when paralyzed.
From the moment a person is sworn in, they will be a veteran when they leave the service. Doesn't matter how long or what they did in the service. Thirty days of thirty years.
Maybe some Army people can tell me about two year soldiers. In the Navy they are usaualy unfit for service.


I'm not a vet, but I do not think this guy (whose injuries occurred outside of military service) should be wearing a [defaced] uniform for Halloween, it is disrespecful to the men and women who ARE injured in service to the U.S., not a joke.
 
2012-11-02 11:48:59 AM  

JackieRabbit: HatMadeOfAss: The core Corps is disappoint, son. A Marine soldier should know better.

/Wife-like typing, etc.
//Semper Fuuuuuuuuu...
///...dge

FTFY, because I know some jar heads would kick your ass for either of those mistakes.


i am a metal of honor winner marine core soldier. your wrong.
 
2012-11-02 11:49:15 AM  

DirkTheDaring: Do you know why there are Marines on Navy vessels?


Because sheep would be obvious.

/Is a vet 
//Go Navy Beat Army


Go Army Sink Navy
 
2012-11-02 11:50:24 AM  
Go Army Beat Army
 
2012-11-02 11:54:34 AM  
Isn't it kind of weird that they included the accused's full address right down to his apartment number?
 
2012-11-02 11:54:47 AM  
Well, the guy is disabled and he is a veteran. But, calling him a disabled veteran implies he was wounded in action. Total speculation on my part, but it kind of sounds as if he likes to play that card.
 
2012-11-02 11:55:48 AM  
Too bad there wasn't what the President calls a "corpse-man" there to assist with the injuries.
 
2012-11-02 11:56:44 AM  

sjmcc13: Theaetetus: sjmcc13: Now if the marine first verifies that the person is not disabled, and that the costume is out of disrespect for the military, then maybe.

Because they fight to protect our freedom, including freedom of speech, and disrespecting them means you should be punished?
Depends on the nature of the disrespect...


Wearing clothes with fake blood and sitting in a wheel chair?
 
2012-11-02 11:57:25 AM  

JackieRabbit: HatMadeOfAss: The core Corps is disappoint, son. A Marine soldier should know better.

/Wife-like typing, etc.
//Semper Fuuuuuuuuu...
///...dge

FTFY, because I know some jar heads would kick your you're ass for either of those mistakes.


FTFY, because I know some grammarologists that would write a scathing op-ed piece in L.A. Weekly for that mistake.
 
2012-11-02 11:58:11 AM  

ScotterOtter: Well, the guy is disabled and he is a veteran. But, calling him a disabled veteran implies he was wounded in action. Total speculation on my part, but it kind of sounds as if he likes to play that card.


Not necessarily... I'm a disabled veteran, and draw a disability pension on top of my retirement based on my service-connected disabilities. I wasn't wounded in action, but was broken in the service nonetheless.
 
2012-11-02 11:58:56 AM  
semper fla.
 
2012-11-02 12:00:58 PM  
Congratulations Mr. Wheelchair Bound Minding Your Own Business Man.
You're the next contestant on
ll-media.tmz.com
 
2012-11-02 12:03:34 PM  

Cold_Sassy: AugieDoggyDaddy: Priotti told The Sun he served in the Army from 1996-98 and was paralyzed in an accident about 10 years ago that was not military-related.

Okay fellow vets, show of hands, who thinks the uniform is an apropiate holloween costume?

Also, Priotti served a whole two years in the Army, and apparently was not in the Army when paralyzed.
From the moment a person is sworn in, they will be a veteran when they leave the service. Doesn't matter how long or what they did in the service. Thirty days of thirty years.
Maybe some Army people can tell me about two year soldiers. In the Navy they are usaualy unfit for service.

I'm not a vet, but I do not think this guy (whose injuries occurred outside of military service) should be wearing a [defaced] uniform for Halloween, it is disrespecful to the men and women who ARE injured in service to the U.S., not a joke.


I'm not a cheerleader, but I do not think any women (whose violent murder occured outside of the reenactment of a campy horror movie) should be dressed up as a sexy zombie cheerleader for Halloween, it is disrespectful to the women who ARE murdered by ax wielding maniacs in service to giving 50 year old men chubs between halves of a football game, not a joke.
 
2012-11-02 12:04:12 PM  

AugieDoggyDaddy: Okay fellow vets, show of hands, who thinks the uniform is an apropiate holloween costume?


Is there an age qualifier here? You know, like a sexy nurse costume is awesome on a hot 25 year old, but just bad taste on a six year old. Is there a cutoff where it's okay for a kid, but inappropriate for an adult?
 
2012-11-02 12:06:40 PM  

AugieDoggyDaddy: Okay fellow vets, show of hands, who thinks the uniform is an apropiate holloween costume?


www.clotheslineblog.com
 
2012-11-02 12:09:01 PM  
This thread has some potential for entertainment.
 
2012-11-02 12:09:20 PM  

sjmcc13: Theaetetus: sjmcc13: Now if the marine first verifies that the person is not disabled, and that the costume is out of disrespect for the military, then maybe.

Because they fight to protect our freedom, including freedom of speech, and disrespecting them means you should be punished?
Depends on the nature of the disrespect...


Don't really care much for that Constitution, do ya?

Unless the guy was physically assaulting the Marine, there was no excuse for violence. In fact, were the Marine sill in the Corps, he'd be in deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep shiat for rouging up a townie over a costume.

The uniform does not give anybody the right to "punish" citizenry. Actions like this dishonor the uniform. The guy's a disgrace.
 
2012-11-02 12:11:37 PM  
 
2012-11-02 12:12:32 PM  
I think I side a bit more with the Marine here. The reason being was this guy was injured AFTER he was out of the service. Therefore, he was dressing up as a paralyzed vet. He is not a paralyzed vet, he is a vet who also happened to be paralyzed.

While the Marine shouldn't have decked the guy, it's kinda shiatty to dress as a paralyzed vet.
 
2012-11-02 12:14:28 PM  
Ya got the wrong one, Marine
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-02 12:15:42 PM  

Publikwerks: I think I side a bit more with the Marine here. The reason being was this guy was injured AFTER he was out of the service. Therefore, he was dressing up as a paralyzed vet. He is not a paralyzed vet, he is a vet who also happened to be paralyzed.

While the Marine shouldn't have decked the guy, it's kinda shiatty to dress as a paralyzed vet.


I agree that it's likely the second worst costume ever (Prince Harry still reigns as the Crown Prince of Douchebaggery), but it still isn't OK to knock out someone in a wheelchair. Unless you're in a wheelchair, too... Then it's game on.
 
2012-11-02 12:17:57 PM  

hermitage_deux: The guy was dressed for halloween as a wounded soldier in a wheelchair with fake blood all over his face.
I'm glad the marine clocked him, even if he was once in the army.

it's like a cop wearing his own uniform on halloween with bullet holes in his chest and head. that's just stupid, and very disrespectful.

/ posing as a wounded, disabled vet is not cool
// where can i contribute to defense fund?


I'm glad somebody else thinks the wheelchair vet's costume was disrespectful, but I also still think the other Marine is also a douchebag in this situation. You don't get to hit somebody just because you don't like what they're doing. You're the adult, act like it.
 
2012-11-02 12:20:19 PM  

Publikwerks: I think I side a bit more with the Marine here. The reason being was this guy was injured AFTER he was out of the service. Therefore, he was dressing up as a paralyzed vet. He is not a paralyzed vet, he is a vet who also happened to be paralyzed.

While the Marine shouldn't have decked the guy, it's kinda shiatty to dress as a paralyzed vet.


Yes, but you don't get to hit them just because you've worked out a way for their costume to be extra disrespectful to you personally.

/no matter what he decided to dress as, he would have been a paralyzed version of it
 
2012-11-02 12:21:33 PM  

sdd2000: 1derful: People think the Jarheads are stupid, but I'll tell you- it takes a good deal of smarts to be a medic or a chaplain.

Marine "Chaplin" s is not normally possible. The United States Navy Chaplain Corps normally provides chaplins for the marines.


On the tv show "carrier" that was, I believe, on A&E channel they had a marine chaplin. Not so sure your statement is completely correct
 
2012-11-02 12:21:56 PM  

hermitage_deux: it's like a cop wearing his own uniform on halloween with bullet holes in his chest and head. that's just stupid, and very disrespectful.


It may be stupid, it may be 'disrespectful', but it's still freedom of speech, he shouldn't get clocked for it.

I mean, he might be trying to draw attention to the plight of wounded veterans. That and, being stuck in a wheelchair, his options for costumes is somewhat limited.

AugieDoggyDaddy: Okay fellow vets, show of hands, who thinks the uniform is an apropiate holloween costume?


Being as how I'm still active duty, it's not a costume, is my thinking. However, a retired/ex military person might still have the stuff around, especially if he 'accessorizes' - doing the 'wounded vet' thing.

Cold_Sassy: I'm not a vet, but I do not think this guy (whose injuries occurred outside of military service) should be wearing a [defaced] uniform for Halloween, it is disrespecful to the men and women who ARE injured in service to the U.S., not a joke.


Well, I am a vet, active with 13 years, and I say "lighten up". For halloween you're supposed to be dressing as something you're not. He's not a wounded vet, we get that. If he actually tried to present himself as a wounded vet outside of halloween or stage play, then I think people would have a right to be butt-hurt. But he doesn't. Being confined to a wheelchair does limit his options, but while I'm sure there's more out there than 'wounded vet or Stephen Hawking', he's used the costume for years. It's easy. I'm stuck with nice thick glasses, so I usually do 'Mad Scientist'.
 
2012-11-02 12:22:33 PM  
Stolen Lolor
 
2012-11-02 12:24:14 PM  
Who the fark cares whether he was disabled in action or after leaving the service? Does it really matter?

It's a farking halloween costume! I think some of you idiots need a "lighten up, Francis" coffee mug by your computers.

A) As one guy already pointed out, there are limited costume options for a guy in a wheelchair.

B) What costume isn't offensive or disrespectful to someone out there? Sorry, that hot girl can't be a sexy nurse for halloween, since that is disrespectful to hard working nurses out there. Sorry, you can't wear a priest costume, since that is offensive to altar boys who were raped by them. Sorry, you can't be Freddy Kruger or Michael Myers, since that is offensive to the victims of actual mass murdering psychopaths. Sorry, you can't be Ponch from CHiPs, since that is disrespectful to the men who keep our highways safe (that one might already be protected by law). Sorry, you can't be a zombie, since that is offensive to the people who got their faces chewed off by people on bath salts. Sorry, that hot girl can't wear a sexy angel costume, since that is offensive to Christians.

I once rented a wheelchair and bought an old army uniform and bandana to be Tom Cruise from Born on the Fourth of July. I also grew out a scraggly beard like he had at one point in the movie. I'm glad I didn't go through with that costume (I didn't want to make my sexy-angel friend have to push me around all night), since I might have been beaten up for it.

Maybe this guy should go beat up Tom Cruise for wearing a costume and impersonating a veteran who was injured in the war. It is very disrespectful to wear costumes like that.
 
2012-11-02 12:26:15 PM  

Heamer: STAND UP AND FIGHT ME LIKE A MAN, DO YOU EVEN LIFT


Hey, long time no see, man.

/miss the 'fro
 
2012-11-02 12:30:40 PM  

RoxtarRyan: Temper Fi.

/hopes he has at least an Article 15 waiting him on top of charges


Article 15 is something he can control whether he gets it or not. All he'd have to do is decline it and then no Article 15.
 
2012-11-02 12:37:07 PM  

FTDA: Modguy: Cpl.D: 1derful: People think the Jarheads are stupid, but I'll tell you- it takes a good deal of smarts to be a medic or a chaplain.

I see what you did there.

Ohhh, now I see.

Me too, I got trolled really well!


Telling a joke that some people don't get isn't trolling!
 
2012-11-02 12:41:03 PM  

Kuroshin: Don't really care much for that Constitution, do ya?


I am not american, and no. While it has some good parts and allot of good ideas, it is limited by the writers not being able to forsee how things would change over time, and the USA's moronic refusal to change parts that need to be changed due to changes in society, technology and logical oversights.
 
2012-11-02 12:49:15 PM  
AugieDoggyDaddy:

Okay fellow vets, show of hands, who thinks the uniform is an apropiate holloween costume?


Why would I go out and party in my work clothes? :-P

/I did dress as a soldier for Halloween once...when I was 10...a Civil War soldier, not current vet
 
2012-11-02 12:55:36 PM  
I do enjoy threads about Marine Core soldiers; they do bring out the rookies.
 
2012-11-02 01:04:52 PM  
Former Marine.
Deployed to Iraq, didn't come back crazy.
Went to college afterwards.
Has engineering degree.
Doesn't punch cripples, babies, or kittens.

Stereotypes are fun.
/coolstory
 
2012-11-02 01:06:51 PM  

Dyalar: Former Marine.
Deployed to Iraq, didn't come back crazy.
Went to college afterwards.
Has engineering degree.
Doesn't punch cripples, babies, or kittens.

Stereotypes are fun.
/coolstory


You're going to need to make that life story a lot more interesting if you want to sell the movie of your life to Hollywood.
 
2012-11-02 01:07:20 PM  

Dyalar: Former Marine.
Deployed to Iraq, didn't come back crazy.
Went to college afterwards.
Has engineering degree.
Doesn't punch cripples, babies, or kittens.

Stereotypes are fun.
/coolstory


So much for "once a Marine, always a Marine"...

*ducks*
 
2012-11-02 01:07:36 PM  

i.r.id10t: 1derful: People think the Jarheads are stupid, but I'll tell you- it takes a good deal of smarts to be a medic or a chaplain.

Unfortunately the Jarheads borrow their medics from the Squids...


The Chaplain corps does too. I think that's the joke.

P.S. I like it.
 
2012-11-02 01:08:11 PM  

ADHD Librarian: i.r.id10t: 1derful: People think the Jarheads are stupid, but I'll tell you- it takes a good deal of smarts to be a medic or a chaplain.

Unfortunately the Jarheads borrow their medics from the Squids...

I believe this is in order...
[www.baka-raptor.com image 448x330]


Sorry, missed this the first time through.
 
2012-11-02 01:08:37 PM  

Dyalar: Former Marine.
Deployed to Iraq, didn't come back crazy.
Went to college afterwards.
Has engineering degree.
Doesn't punch cripples, babies, or kittens.

Stereotypes are fun.
/coolstory


But, do you punch puppies?
 
2012-11-02 01:11:21 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: Dyalar: Former Marine.
Deployed to Iraq, didn't come back crazy.
Went to college afterwards.
Has engineering degree.
Doesn't punch cripples, babies, or kittens.

Stereotypes are fun.
/coolstory

But, do you punch puppies?


Not if they're crippled.
 
2012-11-02 01:12:38 PM  
www.shorelinescripts.com
THIS MAN WALKS, DUDE!
 
2012-11-02 01:17:41 PM  

Publikwerks: I think I side a bit more with the Marine here. The reason being was this guy was injured AFTER he was out of the service. Therefore, he was dressing up as a paralyzed vet. He is not a paralyzed vet, he is a vet who also happened to be paralyzed.

While the Marine shouldn't have decked the guy, it's kinda shiatty to dress as a paralyzed vet.


Why? He could have dressed up as a firefighter and, due to his disability, he would be seen as dressing up as a paralyzed firefighter, which douchebags like you would also take offense to. Basically what you are saying is that people with spinal cord injuries should just keep their limp asses at home on Halloween, because no matter what costume they wear folks like you would be offended. You are a bigot and I sincerely hope that one day soon you experience first hand what life is like with a spinal cord injury.

/paralyzed vet
 
2012-11-02 01:22:23 PM  

2words1finger: paralyzed vet


So, about that. Isn't it hard to cure sick dogs when you're paralyzed?
 
2012-11-02 01:22:28 PM  

Dyalar: CapeFearCadaver: Dyalar: Former Marine.
Deployed to Iraq, didn't come back crazy.
Went to college afterwards.
Has engineering degree.
Doesn't punch cripples, babies, or kittens.

Stereotypes are fun.
/coolstory

But, do you punch puppies?

Not if they're crippled.


Ah, Okay. You're not allowed around my dog, then. Unless you count really old as crippled.
 
2012-11-02 01:24:47 PM  

Mr. Carpenter: Cold_Sassy: AugieDoggyDaddy: Priotti told The Sun he served in the Army from 1996-98 and was paralyzed in an accident about 10 years ago that was not military-related.

Okay fellow vets, show of hands, who thinks the uniform is an apropiate holloween costume?

Also, Priotti served a whole two years in the Army, and apparently was not in the Army when paralyzed.
From the moment a person is sworn in, they will be a veteran when they leave the service. Doesn't matter how long or what they did in the service. Thirty days of thirty years.
Maybe some Army people can tell me about two year soldiers. In the Navy they are usaualy unfit for service.

I'm not a vet, but I do not think this guy (whose injuries occurred outside of military service) should be wearing a [defaced] uniform for Halloween, it is disrespecful to the men and women who ARE injured in service to the U.S., not a joke.

I'm not a cheerleader, but I do not think any women (whose violent murder occured outside of the reenactment of a campy horror movie) should be dressed up as a sexy zombie cheerleader for Halloween, it is disrespectful to the women who ARE murdered by ax wielding maniacs in service to giving 50 year old men chubs between halves of a football game, not a joke.


Yes, except one is real life and one is fake shiat.

Brilliant.
 
2012-11-02 01:26:20 PM  

autopsybeverage: That is not something a Marine does - they have more self-control," Priotti said.

This guy has apparently known much higher quality Marines than I have met.

Muscles
Are
Required;
Intelligence?
Not
Essential.


"You tell 'em, Prioti."

bztv.typepad.com
 
2012-11-02 01:30:17 PM  

More_Like_A_Stain: There was no defense of country here. It was simply a (mistakenly) perceived insult to his Marineness.


Point taken.
 
2012-11-02 01:35:10 PM  

Publikwerks: I think I side a bit more with the Marine here. The reason being was this guy was injured AFTER he was out of the service. Therefore, he was dressing up as a paralyzed vet. He is not a paralyzed vet, he is a vet who also happened to be paralyzed.

While the Marine shouldn't have decked the guy, it's kinda shiatty to dress as a paralyzed vet.


I'm more along this line of thought too. He served for two years during peace-time. Hell, he even went out and bought a current uniform for his costume. I don't think that dressing up as a soldier is sancrosant, but the article does kind of misrepresent the situation.

Either way, punching a wheel-chair bound dude, is pretty weak.
 
2012-11-02 01:38:19 PM  
Does the perp resemble Graham Chapman?
 
2012-11-02 01:44:12 PM  

blatz514: super_grass: "Hero: Marine attacks a man for dressing up as a paralyzed vet on Halloween"

Why does redneckmitter hate Lt. Dan?

Aww, dammit.

/tiny fist, ect.
//I included a pic at least


Bad news for you: your linked pic doesn't show up.
 
2012-11-02 01:49:47 PM  

horsepocket: Who the fark cares whether he was disabled in action or after leaving the service? Does it really matter?

It's a farking halloween costume! I think some of you idiots need a "lighten up, Francis" coffee mug by your computers.

A) As one guy already pointed out, there are limited costume options for a guy in a wheelchair.

B) What costume isn't offensive or disrespectful to someone out there? Sorry, that hot girl can't be a sexy nurse for halloween, since that is disrespectful to hard working nurses out there. Sorry, you can't wear a priest costume, since that is offensive to altar boys who were raped by them. Sorry, you can't be Freddy Kruger or Michael Myers, since that is offensive to the victims of actual mass murdering psychopaths. Sorry, you can't be Ponch from CHiPs, since that is disrespectful to the men who keep our highways safe (that one might already be protected by law). Sorry, you can't be a zombie, since that is offensive to the people who got their faces chewed off by people on bath salts. Sorry, that hot girl can't wear a sexy angel costume, since that is offensive to Christians.

I once rented a wheelchair and bought an old army uniform and bandana to be Tom Cruise from Born on the Fourth of July. I also grew out a scraggly beard like he had at one point in the movie. I'm glad I didn't go through with that costume (I didn't want to make my sexy-angel friend have to push me around all night), since I might have been beaten up for it.

Maybe this guy should go beat up Tom Cruise for wearing a costume and impersonating a veteran who was injured in the war. It is very disrespectful to wear costumes like that.


I'm not saying it was right to knock the dude out. But claiming this is an instance of taking ourselves too seriously, i.e. "Lighten up Francis", is crap. Your right, alot of costumes will be offensive to someone. However, we ALL OWE a debt to those who became disabled fighting for our country. So to see that debt and sacrifice betittled by turning it into a halloween costume might really piss off people who saw friends die and become injured while serving.

So in recap - He didn't deserve to get knocked the fark out, but he should have known better.

To quote Pulp Fiction:

I ain't saying it's right. But you're saying a foot massage don't mean nothing, and I'm saying it does. Now, look, I've given a million ladies a million foot massages, and they all meant something. We act like they don't, but they do, and that's what's so farking cool about them. There's a sensuous thing going on where you don't talk about it, but you know it, she knows it, farking Marsellus knew it, and Antoine should have farking better known better. I mean, that's his farking wife, man. He ain't gonna have no sense of humor about that shiat. You know what I'm saying?
 
2012-11-02 01:50:07 PM  

Milo Minderbinder: I do enjoy threads about Marine Core soldiers; they do bring out the rookies.


Wait, I was told they bring out the cookies. I DEMAND COOKIES!
 
2012-11-02 01:50:50 PM  
Disrespectful is not a valid description for things you don't think are funny.
 
2012-11-02 01:51:01 PM  

AugieDoggyDaddy: (snipped for length)
From the moment a person is sworn in, they will be a veteran when they leave the service. Doesn't matter how long or what they did in the service. Thirty days of thirty years.
Maybe some Army people can tell me about two year soldiers. In the Navy they are usaualy unfit for service.


When I signed up for active service back in '88, they gave me the option of 2 year, 4 year, or 8 year contract. IIRC, there were limits on what you could train for with the 2 year option, probably to ensure they got a decent amount of service out of you after training.

Without more information on his status when he ended his service, there's not really a good way to tell if he 1) had completed his contracted active time, 2) was discharged due to medical reasons, or 3) was discharged for other reasons.
 
2012-11-02 01:51:29 PM  
"(Dabney) should be stripped of being allowed to be called a Marine.


I agree, kick himout of the Core!
 
2012-11-02 01:53:23 PM  

I May Be Crazy But...: FTDA: Modguy: Cpl.D: 1derful: People think the Jarheads are stupid, but I'll tell you- it takes a good deal of smarts to be a medic or a chaplain.

I see what you did there.

Ohhh, now I see.

Me too, I got trolled really well!

Telling a joke that some people don't get isn't trolling!


I used the wrong term, are you being a grammar nazi or just being informative?
 
2012-11-02 01:54:14 PM  
I am a 300 lb guy and dressed as a nun for Halloween one year. No one tried to punch me out, altho a few really stupid people on the street thought I was a real nun... It's Halloween, you are supposed to have fun and dress up. I would be more insulted at the man wearing a pink tutu than I would someone dressed as a disabled vet.
 
2012-11-02 01:54:27 PM  
Well

Fu*k
 
2012-11-02 01:54:54 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: Article 15 is something he can control whether he gets it or not. All he'd have to do is decline it and then no Article 15.


Yeah, for the non-military types out there, and even military types out there, the closest equivalent ot an article 15 is a "plea bargain". If you don't take it the next step is an actual court martial. In this case under article 128(and whatever else the prosecuter can twist in to apply).
 
2012-11-02 01:56:34 PM  

traylor: blatz514: super_grass: "Hero: Marine attacks a man for dressing up as a paralyzed vet on Halloween"

Why does redneckmitter hate Lt. Dan?

Aww, dammit.

/tiny fist, ect.
//I included a pic at least

Bad news for you: your linked pic doesn't show up.


I just went back to the 1st page and it's still there. Not sure what you're looking at.
 
2012-11-02 01:57:22 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: RoxtarRyan: Temper Fi.

/hopes he has at least an Article 15 waiting him on top of charges

Article 15 is something he can control whether he gets it or not. All he'd have to do is decline it and then no Article 15.


Yes, he can decline it and demand a trial by court martial. I'm sure that is the better of the two options for this dick biscuit.
 
2012-11-02 01:58:15 PM  

1derful: People think the Jarheads are stupid, but I'll tell you- it takes a good deal of smarts to be a medic or a chaplain.


Judging by the bites, I'd say at least an 8/10.
 
2012-11-02 01:59:06 PM  

Tat'dGreaser: Theaetetus: It's the gift that just keeps giving.

I didn't think the Core Corps thing could be topped. This might do it.


FTFY ;)
 
2012-11-02 02:05:36 PM  

More_Like_A_Stain: There was no defense of country here. It was simply a (mistakenly) perceived insult to his Marineness.


Damned right. Guy is an asshole. My words, not MLAS's.
 
2012-11-02 02:27:43 PM  

BolshyGreatYarblocks: autopsybeverage: That is not something a Marine does - they have more self-control," Priotti said.

This guy has apparently known much higher quality Marines than I have met.

Muscles
Are
Required;
Intelligence?
Not
Essential.

"You tell 'em, Prioti."


I wasn't sure what you were going for until I looked up who was on that cover.
 
2012-11-02 02:32:54 PM  

RoxtarRyan: Benjimin_Dover: RoxtarRyan: Temper Fi.

/hopes he has at least an Article 15 waiting him on top of charges

Article 15 is something he can control whether he gets it or not. All he'd have to do is decline it and then no Article 15.

Yes, he can decline it and demand a trial by court martial. I'm sure that is the better of the two options for this dick biscuit.


You missed the part where courts martial have something around a 97% conviction rate, too.
 
2012-11-02 02:36:49 PM  

Publikwerks: horsepocket: Who the fark cares whether he was disabled in action or after leaving the service? Does it really matter?

It's a farking halloween costume! I think some of you idiots need a "lighten up, Francis" coffee mug by your computers.

A) As one guy already pointed out, there are limited costume options for a guy in a wheelchair.

B) What costume isn't offensive or disrespectful to someone out there? Sorry, that hot girl can't be a sexy nurse for halloween, since that is disrespectful to hard working nurses out there. Sorry, you can't wear a priest costume, since that is offensive to altar boys who were raped by them. Sorry, you can't be Freddy Kruger or Michael Myers, since that is offensive to the victims of actual mass murdering psychopaths. Sorry, you can't be Ponch from CHiPs, since that is disrespectful to the men who keep our highways safe (that one might already be protected by law). Sorry, you can't be a zombie, since that is offensive to the people who got their faces chewed off by people on bath salts. Sorry, that hot girl can't wear a sexy angel costume, since that is offensive to Christians.

I once rented a wheelchair and bought an old army uniform and bandana to be Tom Cruise from Born on the Fourth of July. I also grew out a scraggly beard like he had at one point in the movie. I'm glad I didn't go through with that costume (I didn't want to make my sexy-angel friend have to push me around all night), since I might have been beaten up for it.

Maybe this guy should go beat up Tom Cruise for wearing a costume and impersonating a veteran who was injured in the war. It is very disrespectful to wear costumes like that.

I'm not saying it was right to knock the dude out. But claiming this is an instance of taking ourselves too seriously, i.e. "Lighten up Francis", is crap. Your right, alot of costumes will be offensive to someone. However, we ALL OWE a debt to those who became disabled fighting for our country. So to see that debt and sacrifice bet ...


Link
 
2012-11-02 02:40:38 PM  
Q: Why do Naval vessels have Marines posted on them?
A: So the Sailors have somebody to dance with.

My Marine friends hate that joke.
 
2012-11-02 02:41:03 PM  
autopsybeverage: BolshyGreatYarblocks: autopsybeverage: That is not something a Marine does - they have more self-control," Priotti said.

This guy has apparently known much higher quality Marines than I have met.

Muscles
Are
Required;
Intelligence?
Not
Essential.

"You tell 'em, Prioti."

I wasn't sure what you were going for until I looked up who was on that cover.


I knew who that fellow was instantly!! Quite the skilled marksman, he was.
 
2012-11-02 03:12:09 PM  

hermitage_deux: The guy was dressed for halloween as a wounded soldier in a wheelchair with fake blood all over his face.
I'm glad the marine clocked him, even if he was once in the army.

it's like a cop wearing his own uniform on halloween with bullet holes in his chest and head. that's just stupid, and very disrespectful.

/ posing as a wounded, disabled vet is not cool
// where can i contribute to defense fund?


in america on halloween people masquerade in scary costumes, nancy.
 
2012-11-02 03:19:58 PM  

BigLuca: henryhill: I have a job that what I wear would make a great halloween costume, but I don't wear it on halloween. You know why? Because its my farking uniform!

Normally I'd agree with this. But as a guy in a wheel chair he has to integrate the chair into his costume or people get confused. "A disabled vampire? I don't get it." "No, I'm a regular vampire I just happen to be disabled." So his choices are pretty much limited to disabled vet or Stephen Hawking, and he probably didn't have a Speak-n-Spell available.


I was at a Halloween party with a disabled dude... covered his motorized wheelchair with a bassinet, into which he cut a hole for his head to poke through... kind of like this:
www.coolest-homemade-costumes.com


Needless to say, he owned the room
 
2012-11-02 03:22:57 PM  

sjmcc13: Kuroshin: Don't really care much for that Constitution, do ya?

I am not american, and no. While it has some good parts and allot of good ideas, it is limited by the writers not being able to forsee how things would change over time, and the USA's moronic refusal to change parts that need to be changed due to changes in society, technology and logical oversights.


Someone from Canadia mocking the Constitution - the First Amendment, no less. Is this one of this hyperbolic/ironical attempts at humor?

/Wait, you're serious?
//Let me laugh harder...
 
2012-11-02 03:23:50 PM  
a Marine beat up an Army soldier? Heh... nothing ever changes.
 
2012-11-02 04:24:11 PM  
I remember the Marine who grabbed the gun away from a robber and held him for the police. When the cop remarked that he could have shot the robber, the Marine replied, "I am not authorized to execute criminals in the state of Florida."

The Marine who cold-cocked the Army vet could learn something about self restraint from this fellow Marine.
 
2012-11-02 05:13:30 PM  

blahpers: /miss the 'fro


That makes one of us!
 
2012-11-02 05:20:57 PM  
Maybe this guy's costume was disrespectful to those wounded in combat, but the Marine had no way of knowing his status. He assumed, quite incorrectly, that the guy was an able-bodied asshat. You can't go around beating up people in wheelchairs because you think they're not really disabled, because if it turns out you're wrong, it's a goddamned felony.
 
2012-11-02 05:23:41 PM  

JWideman: Maybe this guy's costume was disrespectful to those wounded in combat, but the Marine had no way of knowing his status. He assumed, quite incorrectly, that the guy was an able-bodied asshat. You can't go around beating up people in wheelchairs because you think they're not really disabled, because if it turns out you're wrong, it's a goddamned felony.


I'm pretty sure it's still a felony even if they actually are disabled.
 
2012-11-02 05:53:11 PM  

Publikwerks: I think I side a bit more with the Marine here. The reason being was this guy was injured AFTER he was out of the service. Therefore, he was dressing up as a paralyzed vet. He is not a paralyzed vet, he is a vet who also happened to be paralyzed.

While the Marine shouldn't have decked the guy, it's kinda shiatty to dress as a paralyzed vet.


It may be shiatty, or it may not. I suppose that's a point of view thing. Regardless, if it's illegal, then file a complaint and let the law handle it.

When the Marine decked him, that was assault. It's illegal, which is a far step beyond "I don't think he should dress that way for Halloween". Even if the guy in the wheel chair wasn't disabled and had never been in the military, you don't have a right to assault them.
 
2012-11-02 05:57:57 PM  
I acquired Army officer's dress whites and was going to greet the kids at the door on Halloween, till I remembered the vet across the way might not know it was a de-authorized uniform. (Stormin' Norman is the last guy anyone remembers wearing it.)

So I dressed as a WW2 transport pilot instead. Had an old dude come up and tell me his dad had been a bombardier. Gave him a smile. Me too.
 
2012-11-02 06:00:54 PM  

A Shambling Mound: JWideman: Maybe this guy's costume was disrespectful to those wounded in combat, but the Marine had no way of knowing his status. He assumed, quite incorrectly, that the guy was an able-bodied asshat. You can't go around beating up people in wheelchairs because you think they're not really disabled, because if it turns out you're wrong, it's a goddamned felony.

I'm pretty sure it's still a felony even if they actually are disabled.


Hmm... maybe I phrased it wrong? I was saying that if the victim is disabled, it's a felony.
 
2012-11-02 06:38:22 PM  
Hero: Marine attacks a man for dressing up as a paralyzed vet on Halloween.

I think you're seriously confused, subby. Someone who would do something like that is not a hero. Freedom of speech and freedom of expression are rights that all Americans have, and any military or former-military person who would attack someone for exercising those rights does not truly understand what he was in the service for. This kind of behavior is not heroic. It sounds more like socially retarded redneck to me.

/former Army officer
//if you've got a problem with that, go screw yourself
 
2012-11-02 07:32:21 PM  

tuxq: a Marine beat up an Army soldier? Heh... nothing ever changes.


Does this mean that I'm a bad person for having a thing for former Marines? Especially pre-9/11 former Marines?

/and Firemen, too
//I'm a baaaad person
 
2012-11-02 07:40:01 PM  

suburbanguy: sjmcc13: Kuroshin: Don't really care much for that Constitution, do ya?

I am not american, and no. While it has some good parts and allot of good ideas, it is limited by the writers not being able to forsee how things would change over time, and the USA's moronic refusal to change parts that need to be changed due to changes in society, technology and logical oversights.

Someone from Canadia mocking the Constitution - the First Amendment, no less. Is this one of this hyperbolic/ironical attempts at humor?

/Wait, you're serious?
//Let me laugh harder...


No, it is a logical argument I am not getting in to. especially with someone who can not grasp the concepts involved.

There are reasonable limits to rights. You still need to be able to punish someone for going beyond certain boundaries.

US Gun laws need a major overhaul, separation of church and state needs to be revised (in case you did not notice the big churches trying to break it and enforce their will on the state/IRS thing last month).
There are things Freedom of speech should not cover, like lying slander, liable, racism, hate speech, propaganda, etc. It should cover opinions, but not delusions.It should not cover things that are obviously wrong. Or do you think it is OK for a company to claim to be giving the news, and blatantly lie and mislead thousands of people into believing the opposite of what happened?

The principals of the US constitution is a good idea, it just needs to be revised and updated to cover things that were not possible for the writers to predict. This is what I said if you were not brainwashed to not be able to think about these matters, and treat it like holy scripture you might have been be able to see this.
 
2012-11-02 09:43:48 PM  

sjmcc13: suburbanguy: sjmcc13: Kuroshin: Don't really care much for that Constitution, do ya?

I am not american, and no. While it has some good parts and allot of good ideas, it is limited by the writers not being able to forsee how things would change over time, and the USA's moronic refusal to change parts that need to be changed due to changes in society, technology and logical oversights.

Someone from Canadia mocking the Constitution - the First Amendment, no less. Is this one of this hyperbolic/ironical attempts at humor?

/Wait, you're serious?
//Let me laugh harder...

No, it is a logical argument I am not getting in to. especially with someone who can not grasp the concepts involved.

There are reasonable limits to rights. You still need to be able to punish someone for going beyond certain boundaries.

US Gun laws need a major overhaul, separation of church and state needs to be revised (in case you did not notice the big churches trying to break it and enforce their will on the state/IRS thing last month).
There are things Freedom of speech should not cover, like lying slander, liable, racism, hate speech, propaganda, etc. It should cover opinions, but not delusions.It should not cover things that are obviously wrong. Or do you think it is OK for a company to claim to be giving the news, and blatantly lie and mislead thousands of people into believing the opposite of what happened?

The principals of the US constitution is a good idea, it just needs to be revised and updated to cover things that were not possible for the writers to predict. This is what I said if you were not brainwashed to not be able to think about these matters, and treat it like holy scripture you might have been be able to see this.


Yet you still didn't touch on Freedom of Speech. Try again...
 
2012-11-02 10:30:48 PM  

i upped my meds-up yours: I acquired Army officer's dress whites and was going to greet the kids at the door on Halloween, till I remembered the vet across the way might not know it was a de-authorized uniform. (Stormin' Norman is the last guy anyone remembers wearing it.)

So I dressed as a WW2 transport pilot instead. Had an old dude come up and tell me his dad had been a bombardier. Gave him a smile. Me too.


That's the thing. Most military guys won't mind you dressing up as one of us for a Halloween costume or something like a stage play. Heck, as his army buddies showed, we'll often help you get the uniform and have it be correct. Where we get irate is when you try to actually represent yourself as one of us.
 
2012-11-02 11:01:29 PM  
Anyone over, say 13, should be punched in da face for wearing a Halloween costume. I punched myself just for considering it. Actually did punch my wheelchair bound girlfriend this year. Not because of her costume, it's because I'm an asshole.
 
2012-11-02 11:09:44 PM  

sjmcc13: suburbanguy: sjmcc13: Kuroshin: Don't really care much for that Constitution, do ya?

I am not american, and no. While it has some good parts and allot of good ideas, it is limited by the writers not being able to forsee how things would change over time, and the USA's moronic refusal to change parts that need to be changed due to changes in society, technology and logical oversights.

Someone from Canadia mocking the Constitution - the First Amendment, no less. Is this one of this hyperbolic/ironical attempts at humor?

/Wait, you're serious?
//Let me laugh harder...

No, it is a logical argument I am not getting in to. especially with someone who can not grasp the concepts involved.

There are reasonable limits to rights. You still need to be able to punish someone for going beyond certain boundaries.

US Gun laws need a major overhaul, separation of church and state needs to be revised (in case you did not notice the big churches trying to break it and enforce their will on the state/IRS thing last month).
There are things Freedom of speech should not cover, like lying slander, liable, racism, hate speech, propaganda, etc. It should cover opinions, but not delusions.It should not cover things that are obviously wrong. Or do you think it is OK for a company to claim to be giving the news, and blatantly lie and mislead thousands of people into believing the opposite of what happened?

The principals of the US constitution is a good idea, it just needs to be revised and updated to cover things that were not possible for the writers to predict. This is what I said if you were not brainwashed to not be able to think about these matters, and treat it like holy scripture you might have been be able to see this.


You should probably read a book or two.

The Constitution was written by people who knew when they wrote it that they could not predict the future. That's why it has written into it a process for changing it. Google up the thing and take a read and learn something.

Slander is illegal and not protected, so you are wrong there.

Companies cannot claim whatever they want, so you are wrong there.

Hate speech shouldn't be made illegal because it allows little dooshes like you who get into power to make telling a "mother goose story" hate speech just to get somebody they don't like into prison.

Racism is an opinion so you contradict yourself there.

Libel is illegal and not protected so you are wrong there.

US gun laws are pretty strict so I don't know what you are talking about there.

There is no separation of church and state. What church/IRS thing are you talking about?

There are reasonable limits to rights. For example, your right to do something stops when it infringes on somebody else's rights. And nothing can be considered a right if it imposes a burden on somebody else. That's why there is no right to have somebody else pay for your healthcare, cell phones, or lottery tickets.

Many people in history (remember those books I told you about) have believed the same exact way you do and millions of people have died under their regimes, so you can keep it. It is so funny how you people keep thinking that the only reason that this utopia you want to create hasn't worked yet is because the right people haven't tried it yet. It fails every time. I've trained dogs with fewer repetitions than you people apparently are even capable of.
 
2012-11-03 08:08:46 AM  

Benjimin_Dover: US gun laws are pretty strict so I don't know what you are talking about there.


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