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(Wired)   How the US Army is 'Unwatering' New York City   ( divider line 4
    More: Interesting, Southern California Edison, Army Corps of Engineers, Craig Fugate, Shelter allowance, Air National Guard, Con Edison, tunnels, military engineers  
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7648 clicks; posted to Geek » on 02 Nov 2012 at 11:41 AM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2012-11-02 11:51:41 AM  
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Bunch of ShamWows?
2012-11-02 02:37:34 PM  
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Diogenes Teufelsdrockh: That's not even the hard part. There were snack machines down there and the sugar from the candy bars may have dissolved into the water. The crews are being forced to remove the water less than 16 ounces at a time.

The obvious solution to this problem is to ban sugary snacks.
2012-11-02 01:25:23 PM  
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astro721: Whatthefark: Couldn't they use the pumps on fire trucks to help move some of this water? I know they aren't as large as the big pumps, but every bit helps.

Firetruck pumps expect debris free water. The pumps they are bringing in are (hopefully) designed to handle some junk.

Relatively. A Fire tanker truck might have a 6" suction connection, If they're drawing from a non-clean source such as a lake, it'll have a grill type filter on it. Either a plain screen or some sort of 'bulb' to increase the surface area to prevent clogging.

Anyways, the smallest of the pumps they're receiving have as large of a connector as the largest fire trucks. The fire truck is only expecting to pull water about 10' with said connection, where these pumps will push/pull it over 100. Now, a firetruck will also be able to use it's smaller hoses to toss the water well over 100', but at that point with some models you might have to use 2 trucks - one sucks the water up, then the push truck gets rid of it.

With fire engines, it can get complicated on how much water you can move in what ways, and depends on how the truck was specced. You can have tankers that can't even fill themselves, tankers that can fill themselves from something like a lake or deep well, tanker/pumpers that can spray fires, and pumpers that need a tanker or fire hydrant(with pressurized water) to not run out it's internal tank in less than a minute. The advantage of the dedicated tanker is that it can carry more water while costing less, while a dedicated pumper can push water further/higher/faster.

Though with all their talk of moving equipment around, I'm kind of surprised that they don't have dedicated pump spots to clear the water out. I can understand that the usual sump spots are way underwater at the moment and are overwhelmed to boot, but I'd think it'd be fairly simple to have some spots that are basically 'stick a pump here, let it work'.
2012-11-02 12:03:22 PM  
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The Corps has already shipped 12 eight-inch pumps and 13 six-inch pumps out to the city - from, of all places, New Orleans.

Huh? Why are reporters such farking morons?
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