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(Daily Mail)   British get coded message by carrier pigeon from agent in Nazi Germany. This is not a repeat from 1940   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 143
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2012-11-01 10:29:28 PM  
It looks to me like it was based on a one time pad. Good luck decoding that.

/unless Mrs. Tenney, the vicar's wife, has become sloppy, and forgotten to close her eyes when she takes the balls out of the bingo machine
 
2012-11-01 10:30:35 PM  
Is that the one where the letters were transcribed to numbers (like A=1) and then those numbers were matched to keys that were created randomly? Like, A = 1, but in this particular key 1 could be for the letter J or in the next key the number 1 could be for the letter Z.

If that's the case, it just requires a bit of jiggery-pokery and a nerd with a computer program could do it quickly.
 
2012-11-01 10:31:35 PM  

EngineerBob: The message still may have gotten delivered, as it indicates 'Number of copies sent 2'.


One copy was sent to German Intelligence, it would not be cricket so send message behind their back.
 
2012-11-01 10:34:31 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-01 10:36:09 PM  

KarmicDisaster: Apparently it's in German, I wonder what it means?

Wenn ist das Nunnstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!


www.morethings.com
 
2012-11-01 10:36:26 PM  

JesseL: It looks to me like it was based on a one time pad. Good luck decoding that.

/unless Mrs. Tenney, the vicar's wife, has become sloppy, and forgotten to close her eyes when she takes the balls out of the bingo machine


+1 for you good sir, the added Stephenson ref. was excellent.
 
2012-11-01 10:37:03 PM  

gadian: Is that the one where the letters were transcribed to numbers (like A=1) and then those numbers were matched to keys that were created randomly? Like, A = 1, but in this particular key 1 could be for the letter J or in the next key the number 1 could be for the letter Z.
If that's the case, it just requires a bit of jiggery-pokery and a nerd with a computer program could do it quickly.


One-time pads do work like that, but because the encoding pad is truly random, never reused and never repeats, it's the only provably unbreakable way of encrypting something.
Fortunately, British agents didn't use them until late in the war, so it may be breakable.
 
2012-11-01 10:47:31 PM  
ArcadianRefugee posted on pg 1 is right. Pigeon unaware of what he was doing. Too bad he got monoxide poisoning because he was too weary to fly any farther.
 
2012-11-01 10:47:57 PM  
Speckled Jim!?!?
 
2012-11-01 10:49:32 PM  

Bob The Nob: Speckled Jim!?!?


Meh. I came here to post that.

/Nice one.
 
2012-11-01 10:52:53 PM  

iron de havilland: Bob The Nob: Speckled Jim!?!?

Meh. I came here to post that.

/Nice one.


Yes. Clearly the work of the Flanders Pigeon Murderer.
 
2012-11-01 10:54:49 PM  
AOAKN HVPKD FNFJU YIDDC
RQXDR DJHFP GOVFN MIAPX
PABUZ WYYNP CMPNW HJRZH.
NLXKG MEMEK ONOIB AREEQ
UAOTA. RBQRH DJOFM TPZEH
LKXEH RGGHT JRZCQ FNKTQ
KLDTS GQIRU AOAKN



Ia! Ia! Cthulhu Fthagn! Ph'nglui mglw'nfah Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
 
mjg
2012-11-01 10:57:08 PM  

Hugo Zorilla:

Have at it, Fark.

MILK
BREAD
EGGS
SUGAR
FLOUR


museumofuncutfunk.com

/too obscure?
 
2012-11-01 10:58:49 PM  
Be sure to drink your Ovaltine.
 
2012-11-01 11:00:45 PM  
Reads: Germans need another six months to finish the job on the Jews, so hold off on D-Day.
 
2012-11-01 11:00:45 PM  
Why don't we fox them?!
 
2012-11-01 11:01:44 PM  
Did we win?
 
2012-11-01 11:01:47 PM  

JesseL: It looks to me like it was based on a one time pad. Good luck decoding that.

/unless Mrs. Tenney, the vicar's wife, has become sloppy, and forgotten to close her eyes when she takes the balls out of the bingo machine


There's no reason to think it's a one-time pad. The grouping into 5-letter groups was commonly done to deny cryptographers information about the word breaks.
 
2012-11-01 11:05:24 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: Someone appears to have transcribulated it.

AOAKN HVPKD FNFJU YIDDC
RQXDR DJHFP GOVFN MIAPX
PABUZ WYYNP CMPNW HJRZH.
NLXKG MEMEK ONOIB AREEQ
UAOTA. RBQRH DJOFM TPZEH
LKXEH RGGHT JRZCQ FNKTQ
KLDTS GQIRU AOAKN

Have at it, Fark.


"TURING IS A PILLOW BITER"
 
2012-11-01 11:11:57 PM  
Here it is.

Attention fellow pigeons. Beware of American professor/piano player handing out peanuts in the park every Sunday this spring.
 
2012-11-01 11:14:08 PM  
Old news is old.

Deciphered.
 
2012-11-01 11:16:12 PM  
Battlefield 1943 product code?
 
2012-11-01 11:16:14 PM  
It's actually not from WWII and not only that but the pigeon was actually killed by friendly fire.


encycl.opentopia.com
 
2012-11-01 11:17:24 PM  
SPAM SUPPLIES DANGEROUSLY LOW. AIRDROP RESERVE SPAM SOONEST.
 
2012-11-01 11:34:30 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: Someone appears to have transcribulated it.

AOAKN HVPKD FNFJU YIDDC
RQXDR DJHFP GOVFN MIAPX
PABUZ WYYNP CMPNW HJRZH.
NLXKG MEMEK ONOIB AREEQ
UAOTA. RBQRH DJOFM TPZEH
LKXEH RGGHT JRZCQ FNKTQ
KLDTS GQIRU AOAKN

Have at it, Fark.


I do not like the men on this spaceship. They are uncouth and fail to appreciate my better qualities. I have something of value to contribute to this mission if they would only recognize it. Today over lunch I tried to improve morale and build a sense of camaraderie among the men by holding a humorous, round-robin discussion of the early days of the mission. My overtures were brutally rejected. These men do not want a happy ship. They are deeply sick and try to compensate by making me feel miserable. Last week was my birthday. Nobody even said "happy birthday" to me.
 
2012-11-01 11:36:26 PM  
whats taking so long?
 
2012-11-01 11:39:12 PM  
GERMAN FALCONS: THIS IS THE LAST PIGEON WE ARE SENDING YOU TODAY.
 
2012-11-01 11:40:17 PM  
Well, I see pretty much everything else has been covered, sooo

Looks like Microsoft product validation/activation codes. Hell, I wonder if it's even the same cipher.
 
2012-11-01 11:43:53 PM  

mjg: Hugo Zorilla:

Have at it, Fark.

MILK
BREAD
EGGS
SUGAR
FLOUR

[museumofuncutfunk.com image 465x290]

/too obscure?


A load of bread, a container of milk, and a stick of butter.

Remember it fondly.
 
2012-11-01 11:47:13 PM  
www.thegoldenyears.org

I always knew there was something shifty about that guy.
 
2012-11-01 11:48:03 PM  
Nurp nurp?
 
2012-11-01 11:49:18 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: gunther_bumpass: EngineerBob: The message still may have gotten delivered, as it indicates 'Number of copies sent 2'.


Good point!


/Unless there was a second chimney.

A SECOND PIGEON HAS JUST HIT THE SOUTH CHIMNEY


you owe me a new keyboard you glorious bastard!
 
2012-11-01 11:49:34 PM  

mjg: Hugo Zorilla:

Have at it, Fark.

MILK
BREAD
EGGS
SUGAR
FLOUR

[museumofuncutfunk.com image 465x290]

/too obscure?


A loaf of bread, a container of milk, and a stick of butter.

Eggs, sugar, and flour where not part of the skit.
 
2012-11-01 11:57:09 PM  

MontanaDave: mjg: Hugo Zorilla:

Have at it, Fark.

MILK
BREAD
EGGS
SUGAR
FLOUR

[museumofuncutfunk.com image 465x290]

/too obscure?

A loaf of bread, a container of milk, and a stick of butter.

Eggs, sugar, and flour where not part of the skit.


I thought it was:

A GIN AND ORANGE! A LEMON SQUASH! AND A SCOTCH AND WATER, PLEASE!
 
2012-11-02 12:04:46 AM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: MontanaDave: mjg: Hugo Zorilla:

Have at it, Fark.

MILK
BREAD
EGGS
SUGAR
FLOUR

[museumofuncutfunk.com image 465x290]

/too obscure?

A loaf of bread, a container of milk, and a stick of butter.

Eggs, sugar, and flour where not part of the skit.

I thought it was:

A GIN AND ORANGE! A LEMON SQUASH! AND A SCOTCH AND WATER, PLEASE!


I ordered the Waldorf Salad
 
2012-11-02 12:08:32 AM  

MrKevvy: gadian: Is that the one where the letters were transcribed to numbers (like A=1) and then those numbers were matched to keys that were created randomly? Like, A = 1, but in this particular key 1 could be for the letter J or in the next key the number 1 could be for the letter Z.
If that's the case, it just requires a bit of jiggery-pokery and a nerd with a computer program could do it quickly.

One-time pads do work like that, but because the encoding pad is truly random, never reused and never repeats, it's the only provably unbreakable way of encrypting something.
Fortunately, British agents didn't use them until late in the war, so it may be breakable.


Hopefully it's something simpler like a Vigenère cipher. Those things are easy to break with computers today but could have been strong enough to bog down manual cryptanalysis.

Many people don't realize that classified information, in many cases, is only such based in the date/time. Think of troop movements, pending raids, etc. Once these events happen then it's not a secret anymore. In this example, the spy may have just needed to encode the message enough to keep the Krauts guessing for a couple of days.
 
2012-11-02 12:09:21 AM  
THERE ONCE WAS A YOUNG LADY FROM DOVER...
 
2012-11-02 12:11:53 AM  
Diabolical genius must be stopped
Will reveal Mozart's secret
Child's name is Falco
Prevent doom
Dresden
 
2012-11-02 12:17:15 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: Pretty cool, but "hero pigeon"? Gimme a farking break.


Finally! Maybe someone who shares my view of firefighters!
 
2012-11-02 12:31:42 AM  
where is leo marks when you really need him
 
2012-11-02 12:47:37 AM  

Flint Ironstag: I_Am_Weasel: Someone appears to have transcribulated it.

AOAKN HVPKD FNFJU YIDDC
RQXDR DJHFP GOVFN MIAPX
PABUZ WYYNP CMPNW HJRZH.
NLXKG MEMEK ONOIB AREEQ
UAOTA. RBQRH DJOFM TPZEH
LKXEH RGGHT JRZCQ FNKTQ
KLDTS GQIRU AOAKN

Have at it, Fark.

Enigma simulator. Though it was the German's machine others used it as well. A British spy could have used it to send messages to Britain.

/Kinda useless without the rotor and wire settings though.
//If anyone wants to try all the possibilities....


I doubt it's the Enigma code, it was used by a Brit, but lets see what my Enigma program spits out
 
2012-11-02 12:56:30 AM  

KangTheMad: Flint Ironstag: I_Am_Weasel: Someone appears to have transcribulated it.

AOAKN HVPKD FNFJU YIDDC
RQXDR DJHFP GOVFN MIAPX
PABUZ WYYNP CMPNW HJRZH.
NLXKG MEMEK ONOIB AREEQ
UAOTA. RBQRH DJOFM TPZEH
LKXEH RGGHT JRZCQ FNKTQ
KLDTS GQIRU AOAKN

Have at it, Fark.

Enigma simulator. Though it was the German's machine others used it as well. A British spy could have used it to send messages to Britain.

/Kinda useless without the rotor and wire settings though.
//If anyone wants to try all the possibilities....

I doubt it's the Enigma code, it was used by a Brit, but lets see what my Enigma program spits out


50% analyzed with CrypTool. 2 errors so far. I am still in doubt that it's the Enigma, we will see.
 
2012-11-02 01:00:04 AM  
AOAKN HVPKD FNFJU YIDDC
RQXDR DJHFP GOVFN MIAPX
PABUZ WYYNP CMPNW HJRZH.
NLXKG MEMEK ONOIB AREEQ
UAOTA. RBQRH DJOFM TPZEH
LKXEH RGGHT JRZCQ FNKTQ
KLDTS GQIRU AOAKN


When the litters are overturned by the whirlwind and faces are covered by cloaks, the new republic will be troubled by its people. At this time the reds and the whites will rule wrongly

/Well then there it is.
 
2012-11-02 01:04:28 AM  
Preliminary deoding:
You don't frighten us, English pig dogs. Go and boil your bottoms, you sons of a silly person
That's as far as I've gotten.
What could it all mean?
 
2012-11-02 01:06:59 AM  

KangTheMad: KangTheMad: Flint Ironstag: I_Am_Weasel: Someone appears to have transcribulated it.

AOAKN HVPKD FNFJU YIDDC
RQXDR DJHFP GOVFN MIAPX
PABUZ WYYNP CMPNW HJRZH.
NLXKG MEMEK ONOIB AREEQ
UAOTA. RBQRH DJOFM TPZEH
LKXEH RGGHT JRZCQ FNKTQ
KLDTS GQIRU AOAKN

Have at it, Fark.

Enigma simulator. Though it was the German's machine others used it as well. A British spy could have used it to send messages to Britain.

/Kinda useless without the rotor and wire settings though.
//If anyone wants to try all the possibilities....

I doubt it's the Enigma code, it was used by a Brit, but lets see what my Enigma program spits out

50% analyzed with CrypTool. 2 errors so far. I am still in doubt that it's the Enigma, we will see.


Not Enigma, and not viginiere
 
2012-11-02 01:09:15 AM  
AOAKN HVPKD FNFJU YIDDC
RQXDR DJHFP GOVFN MIAPX
PABUZ WYYNP CMPNW HJRZH.
NLXKG MEMEK ONOIB AREEQ
UAOTA. RBQRH DJOFM TPZEH
LKXEH RGGHT JRZCQ FNKTQ
KLDTS GQIRU AOAKN

Have at it, Fark.

Ermegerd! Germerns!!
 
2012-11-02 01:14:33 AM  

I_Am_Weasel: Someone appears to have transcribulated it.

AOAKN HVPKD FNFJU YIDDC
RQXDR DJHFP GOVFN MIAPX
PABUZ WYYNP CMPNW HJRZH.
NLXKG MEMEK ONOIB AREEQ
UAOTA. RBQRH DJOFM TPZEH
LKXEH RGGHT JRZCQ FNKTQ
KLDTS GQIRU AOAKN

Have at it, Fark.


POUND PASTRAMI CAN KRAUT SIX BAGELS BRING HOME FOR EMMA
 
2012-11-02 01:17:30 AM  
Carrier lost.
 
2012-11-02 01:26:34 AM  

KangTheMad: KangTheMad: KangTheMad: Flint Ironstag: I_Am_Weasel: Someone appears to have transcribulated it.

AOAKN HVPKD FNFJU YIDDC
RQXDR DJHFP GOVFN MIAPX
PABUZ WYYNP CMPNW HJRZH.
NLXKG MEMEK ONOIB AREEQ
UAOTA. RBQRH DJOFM TPZEH
LKXEH RGGHT JRZCQ FNKTQ
KLDTS GQIRU AOAKN

Have at it, Fark.

Enigma simulator. Though it was the German's machine others used it as well. A British spy could have used it to send messages to Britain.

/Kinda useless without the rotor and wire settings though.
//If anyone wants to try all the possibilities....

I doubt it's the Enigma code, it was used by a Brit, but lets see what my Enigma program spits out

50% analyzed with CrypTool. 2 errors so far. I am still in doubt that it's the Enigma, we will see.

Not Enigma, and not viginiere


Playfair would be my first guess.
 
2012-11-02 01:30:03 AM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard: KangTheMad: KangTheMad: KangTheMad: Flint Ironstag: I_Am_Weasel: Someone appears to have transcribulated it.

AOAKN HVPKD FNFJU YIDDC
RQXDR DJHFP GOVFN MIAPX
PABUZ WYYNP CMPNW HJRZH.
NLXKG MEMEK ONOIB AREEQ
UAOTA. RBQRH DJOFM TPZEH
LKXEH RGGHT JRZCQ FNKTQ
KLDTS GQIRU AOAKN

Have at it, Fark.

Enigma simulator. Though it was the German's machine others used it as well. A British spy could have used it to send messages to Britain.

/Kinda useless without the rotor and wire settings though.
//If anyone wants to try all the possibilities....

I doubt it's the Enigma code, it was used by a Brit, but lets see what my Enigma program spits out

50% analyzed with CrypTool. 2 errors so far. I am still in doubt that it's the Enigma, we will see.

Not Enigma, and not viginiere

Playfair would be my first guess.


I'll run it through that one
 
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