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(NPR)   You thought Republicans didn't like those got-dang forreners? Well, Russia just went ahead and declared that talking to them's a treason   (npr.org ) divider line 57
    More: Scary, Republican, Russian President Vladimir Putin, Russia, President Vladimir Putin, human rights group, Federal Security Service, United Russia, Anna Chapman  
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2012-11-01 01:25:45 PM  
They've never really felt comfortable with the perestroika policy changes. Police never really changed their ways regarding Russians who converse with foreigners, just got a little easier on the penalties.
 
2012-11-01 03:30:12 PM  
Hell, the Republicans have declared talking to any Americans who aren't Republican as treason
 
2012-11-01 03:37:15 PM  
Back to the USSR, not that they ever truly left.
 
2012-11-01 04:45:21 PM  
In Russia that's just how they do it.
 
2012-11-01 04:53:11 PM  
Putin on the Ritz?
 
2012-11-01 04:55:38 PM  
The more you tighten your grip, the more stability will slip through your fingers.
 
2012-11-01 04:55:48 PM  
Oh yea, well our republicans won't be outdone, you can bet your little blue bonnet on it.

/people don't give up power voluntarily
 
2012-11-01 04:56:15 PM  
If Russia doesn't have a czar, it will make one. Even if Putin was deposed, they would just find somebody else to grovel for.

One of the saddest failures in the history of self-rule.
 
2012-11-01 04:56:43 PM  
Supporters of the new law include Igor Korotchenko, a national security analyst and chairman of the public advisory council to Russia's Ministry of Defense.

Korotchenko has high praise for the American FBI, especially for its success in uncovering Russian spies such as Robert Hanson and Anna Chapman.

He says the effectiveness of America's intelligence agencies was further enhanced by the powers they were given after the 9/11 attacks.

Korotchenko says he simply wants Russia's Federal Security Service to have the same broad powers as its American counterpart.



Yikes.
 
2012-11-01 04:57:42 PM  
Putin is reigning in dissidents. Those Russians that have grown up in the past decade and a half in a capitalist Russia are going to have to get used th the rules.
 
2012-11-01 04:59:13 PM  
They'll have a riot on their hands.
 
2012-11-01 04:59:17 PM  

BigNumber12: Supporters of the new law include Igor Korotchenko, a national security analyst and chairman of the public advisory council to Russia's Ministry of Defense.

Korotchenko has high praise for the American FBI, especially for its success in uncovering Russian spies such as Robert Hanson and Anna Chapman.

He says the effectiveness of America's intelligence agencies was further enhanced by the powers they were given after the 9/11 attacks.

Korotchenko says he simply wants Russia's Federal Security Service to have the same broad powers as its American counterpart.


Yikes.


I heard that this morning on the way to work.

Ain't that about a biatch?
 
2012-11-01 04:59:38 PM  

hdhale: Back to the USSR, not that they ever truly left.


Yup...all they did was shed the excess baggage.
 
2012-11-01 04:59:58 PM  
Russia's pioneering a new kind of not-totalitarian, but you-sure-know-who's-in-control kind of fascism.
 
2012-11-01 05:00:40 PM  
Putin is a scary man. He'd make a right-good Tea Party candidate.
 
2012-11-01 05:04:00 PM  
What does this do to the Russian Mail-Order Bride business?

/a friend wants to know
 
2012-11-01 05:05:04 PM  

kumanoki: BigNumber12: Supporters of the new law include Igor Korotchenko, a national security analyst and chairman of the public advisory council to Russia's Ministry of Defense.

Korotchenko has high praise for the American FBI, especially for its success in uncovering Russian spies such as Robert Hanson and Anna Chapman.

He says the effectiveness of America's intelligence agencies was further enhanced by the powers they were given after the 9/11 attacks.

Korotchenko says he simply wants Russia's Federal Security Service to have the same broad powers as its American counterpart.


Yikes.

I heard that this morning on the way to work.

Ain't that about a biatch?


It's BS. The FSB has far more powers before this law than the FBI ever had, even when Hoover was running things. It's standard Eastern-bloc trolling that always hooks Western left-wingers ("Look, they were inspired by us!").
 
2012-11-01 05:05:16 PM  
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Gort-dang forreners?
 
2012-11-01 05:05:39 PM  

kumanoki: I heard that this morning on the way to work.

Ain't that about a biatch?



Admiring us is similar to liking us, right? Isn't that progress?
 
2012-11-01 05:06:07 PM  
Republicans just don't like illegal immigrants. We don't have a problem with anyone else coming here.
 
2012-11-01 05:07:32 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: It's BS. The FSB has far more powers before this law than the FBI ever had, even when Hoover was running things. It's standard Eastern-bloc trolling that always hooks Western left-wingers ("Look, they were inspired by us!").



That honestly seems far more plausible. The reason that statement is remarkable in the first place is because everyone knows that Russian Intelligence doesn't, screw, around.
 
2012-11-01 05:11:06 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Putin is a scary man. He'd make a right-good Tea Party candidate.


I think Putin would be insulted by the cmparisan. He is an evil guy but he's not stupid.
 
2012-11-01 05:11:53 PM  
Russia adopts the Patriot Act.
 
2012-11-01 05:14:26 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Putin is a scary man. He'd make a right-good Tea Party candidate.


magnusgreel.files.wordpress.com

You should read yahoo news comments whenever one of these Putin photoshoots is released. Tea-Partiers agree with you.
 
2012-11-01 05:14:43 PM  
So...if I'm a Russian programmer and I work on a contract for an American software company, I could in theory be guilty of high treason? Awesome.
 
2012-11-01 05:16:08 PM  

hdhale: Back to the USSR, not that they ever truly left.


hubrisiscool.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-01 05:20:48 PM  

Lord Dimwit: So...if I'm a Russian programmer and I work on a contract for an American software company, I could in theory be guilty of high treason? Awesome.


....The proposed law expands that definition to include "giving financial, technical, consulting or other help" to foreign countries or organizations.

Yes but it's even worst...if you're Russian and if you want to donate a couple bucks to the Salvation Army or American Red Cross they could technically send you to the gulag with this law
 
2012-11-01 05:23:16 PM  
kumanoki

PLEASE make up your mind.

"Putin is reigning in dissidence."
or
"Putin in reining in dissidents."
 
2012-11-01 05:24:52 PM  
oh, and when you get the chance, fix my typo.
 
2012-11-01 05:31:18 PM  

Bossk'sSegway: Russia adopts the Patriot Act.


dingdingdingdingding
 
2012-11-01 05:40:22 PM  
Flew in from Miami Beach BOAC....
 
2012-11-01 05:44:41 PM  
People think the Cold War is over. Well, it never ended. Who supplies Iran, Syria and others? Same game, different decade.
 
2012-11-01 05:46:55 PM  

Rapmaster2000: The more you tighten your grip, the more stability will slip through your fingers.


Not after we demonstrate the capabilities of this death czar.
 
2012-11-01 05:59:36 PM  
What about PROVIDING MATERIAL SUPPORT for foreigners deemed as enemies?
 
2012-11-01 06:00:35 PM  
There are no foreigners in Russia.
 
2012-11-01 06:10:39 PM  
FTA: Korotchenko says he simply wants Russia's Federal Security Service to have the same broad powers as its American counterpart.

Bears repeating.
 
2012-11-01 06:11:33 PM  
Korotchenko has high praise for the American FBI, especially for its success in uncovering Russian spies such as Robert Hanson and Anna Chapman.

He says the effectiveness of America's intelligence agencies was further enhanced by the powers they were given after the 9/11 attacks.

Korotchenko says he simply wants Russia's Federal Security Service to have the same broad powers as its American counterpart.


media.tumblr.com

And I can haz Anna Chapman thread?

www.plunderguide.com
 
2012-11-01 06:12:17 PM  
Putin is essentially Russia's Bill Clinton.

/except without any legal checks on his power
//yes, that actually is meant as a compliment to both men
 
2012-11-01 06:12:27 PM  

Spare Me: People think the Cold War is over. Well, it never ended. Who supplies Iran, Syria and others? Same game, different decade.


But George W Bush told me that he looked Putin in the eye and found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy!

Are you trying to tell me that I can't trust former President Bush's assessment of Putin? Damn, and when he seemed to get everything else right.
 
2012-11-01 06:16:57 PM  

kumanoki: BigNumber12: Supporters of the new law include Igor Korotchenko, a national security analyst and chairman of the public advisory council to Russia's Ministry of Defense.

Korotchenko has high praise for the American FBI, especially for its success in uncovering Russian spies such as Robert Hanson and Anna Chapman.

He says the effectiveness of America's intelligence agencies was further enhanced by the powers they were given after the 9/11 attacks.

Korotchenko says he simply wants Russia's Federal Security Service to have the same broad powers as its American counterpart.


Yikes.

I heard that this morning on the way to work.

Ain't that about a biatch?


Because he says so, it must be true.

/Russians are the worrld's greatest cynics...and alcoholics.
 
2012-11-01 06:22:02 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Putin is essentially Russia's Bill Clinton.

/except without any legal checks on his power
//yes, that actually is meant as a compliment to both men


i1074.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-01 06:47:19 PM  
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com 

One of my favorites.
 
2012-11-01 06:54:51 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Putin is essentially Russia's Bill Clinton.

/except without any legal checks on his power
//yes, that actually is meant as a compliment to both men


kinda like "You would have made an excellent Dalek." ?
 
2012-11-01 07:10:41 PM  
What a country!
 
2012-11-01 07:37:19 PM  

Blue_Blazer:  

One of my favorites.


Hadn't seen it before, it is great
 
2012-11-01 07:43:09 PM  

randomjsa: Republicans just don't like illegal immigrants. We don't have a problem with anyone else coming here.


Tru dat. You welcome rich carpetbaggers like Rupert Murdoch with open arms.
But seriously, folks - I don't know why giving aid and comfort to Young Republicans would be considered treasonous for a Ruassian.
An American, yes - but not a Russian.
 
2012-11-01 07:44:49 PM  
How can Russia declare talking to foreigners illegal? It makes no sense, they are all foreign over there. I was over there once on a business trip, no one was speaking English.
 
2012-11-01 08:25:46 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: Rapmaster2000: The more you tighten your grip, the more stability will slip through your fingers.

Not after we demonstrate the capabilities of this death czar.


Traveling through hyperconservatism ain't like dusting crops, boy! Without precise calculations we could fly right through a czar, or bounce too close to a superPAC and that'd end your trip real quick, wouldn't it?
 
2012-11-01 08:36:26 PM  

lawboy87: Spare Me: People think the Cold War is over. Well, it never ended. Who supplies Iran, Syria and others? Same game, different decade.

But George W Bush told me that he looked Putin in the eye and found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy!

Are you trying to tell me that I can't trust former President Bush's assessment of Putin? Damn, and when he seemed to get everything else right.


You can't trust any past leader's assessment since Reagan. It's the old school "two toughest kids on the block" dealio. At some point, they're gonna fight. It's been going on since 1947 and will continue.

The sad part is Putin has this..


static.guim.co.uk
i4.mirror.co.uk

We got this clown, chring chring

www.bikingindallas.com
 
2012-11-01 08:56:20 PM  
Hobbies aside I prefer to judge the value of my leaders by their contributions to social policy.
 
2012-11-01 09:09:08 PM  

Frederf: Hobbies aside I prefer to judge the value of my leaders by their contributions to social policy.


Not by their skill with an AS-Val or Judo mastery? Are you some kind of lily-livered communist pussy?
 
2012-11-01 09:20:27 PM  

Stephen_Falken: kumanoki

PLEASE make up your mind.

"Putin is reigning in dissidence."
or
"Putin in reining in dissidents."


Yes.
 
2012-11-02 01:38:05 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Hell, the Republicans have declared talking to any Americans who aren't Republican as treason


I can guarantee you, nobody is happier about Romney's slide back into 1985 than Vladimir Putin. He'll be dancing a mad Cossack jig on the walls of the Kremlin if Romney is elected, because he'll have all the justification he needs to reinstate Stalinism like it was when he was a KGB agent. Putin NEEDS somebody who wants to re-start the Cold War--or at least gives the appearance of fearing Russia and thinking that everybody believes that Russia is gearing up for WWIII.

Bush would have done nicely; but Putin wasn't as solidly in power back then (Medvedev was, thank god for the rest of the world), so we got lucky, and Obama hasn't been the saber-rattler Putin needs to assure the Russian people that America wants to kill them all. Romney is. So if Romney is elected, you can count on Putin's enthusiastic support.
 
2012-11-02 10:29:58 AM  

BigNumber12: Supporters of the new law include Igor Korotchenko, a national security analyst and chairman of the public advisory council to Russia's Ministry of Defense.

Korotchenko has high praise for the American FBI, especially for its success in uncovering Russian spies such as Robert Hanson and Anna Chapman.

He says the effectiveness of America's intelligence agencies was further enhanced by the powers they were given after the 9/11 attacks.

Korotchenko says he simply wants Russia's Federal Security Service to have the same broad powers as its American counterpart.


Yikes.


This. The land of the Mongol Yoke, Ivan the Terrible and Stalin is taking lessons in authoritarianism from the Land of deh Freadums.
 
2012-11-02 02:23:56 PM  
"Foreigners", subby, "Foreigners". How did that get greenlit with such an obvious mispelling?
 
2012-11-02 03:37:38 PM  
Doesn't Putin realize that this could affect Russia's tourism industry by tens or even hundreds of dollars?
 
2012-11-03 06:57:03 PM  

BolshyGreatYarblocks: BigNumber12: Supporters of the new law include Igor Korotchenko, a national security analyst and chairman of the public advisory council to Russia's Ministry of Defense.

Korotchenko has high praise for the American FBI, especially for its success in uncovering Russian spies such as Robert Hanson and Anna Chapman.

He says the effectiveness of America's intelligence agencies was further enhanced by the powers they were given after the 9/11 attacks.

Korotchenko says he simply wants Russia's Federal Security Service to have the same broad powers as its American counterpart.


Yikes.

This. The land of the Mongol Yoke, Ivan the Terrible and Stalin is taking lessons in authoritarianism from the Land of deh Freadums.


So many people taken in by what they said. Russia's FSB is not much removed from their KGB predecessor and can do pretty much what they want with little, if any, judicial interference. They make Hoover's FBI look like complete civil-liberties wusses by comparison, and always have. Get a clue; the Russians say stuff like that to Western reporters because people like you are dumb enough to swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
 
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