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2012-11-01 12:52:36 PM
Walk it off, kids. Math is your friend. Honestly, everything is easier after Algebra II.
 
2012-11-01 02:34:42 PM

doyner: Walk it off, kids. Math is your friend. Honestly, everything is easier after Algebra II.


Lies!
 
2012-11-01 02:36:52 PM

doyner: Walk it off, kids. Math is your friend. Honestly, everything is easier after Algebra II.


Yeah, until I got to algebraic topology.
 
2012-11-01 02:37:28 PM
....which could be caused by a number of reasons

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2012-11-01 02:37:48 PM

Ambitwistor: doyner: Walk it off, kids. Math is your friend. Honestly, everything is easier after Algebra II.

Yeah, until I got to algebraic topology.


Truth. I've never met anything that I found so interesting, yet so hard to understand
 
2012-11-01 02:38:09 PM
This doesn't add up.
 
2012-11-01 02:38:41 PM
math puns are easy as pi
 
2012-11-01 02:40:19 PM
maybe the area of the brain that is triggered by math and pain is just the "do not want" area...
 
2012-11-01 02:41:03 PM
It's "maths", subby.
 
2012-11-01 02:41:30 PM
Why is it the more we learn about learning the less we seem interested in learning.
 
2012-11-01 02:42:20 PM
Story of my life.
 
2012-11-01 02:42:37 PM
AverageAmericanGuy
It's "maths", subby.
 

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2012-11-01 02:42:50 PM
I was told there would be no math.
 
2012-11-01 02:43:08 PM

bring to a festering boil: ....which could be caused by a number of reasons


Zero is a number.
 
2012-11-01 02:43:42 PM
At least TFA has an accurate headline. Newser actually has Math Can Hurt You-Physically, which isn't what the actual text says at all.
 
2012-11-01 02:43:45 PM
That explains why 6 was afraid of 7.
 
2012-11-01 02:44:15 PM
In my case; it might be penguin induced PTSD. I went to a catholic grade school and a catholic high school.

/ I've got some real cool stories bro
 
2012-11-01 02:44:26 PM

Ambitwistor: bring to a festering boil: ....which could be caused by a number of reasons

Zero is a number.


Yes but 1 is the loneliest number.
 
2012-11-01 02:45:02 PM
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2012-11-01 02:45:03 PM
 
2012-11-01 02:45:07 PM
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2012-11-01 02:46:24 PM
Math is easier when you come to the realization that everything is addition.

It's never anything more than adding this thing here to this other thing over here.
 
2012-11-01 02:46:27 PM
Studying for GMAT.. hitting math concepts I didn't take in high school many years ago. SO yes, math = pain.

/math is hard when you spell grammar with an e
 
2012-11-01 02:46:30 PM
I blame the i
 
2012-11-01 02:48:09 PM
I enjoy pain.
 
2012-11-01 02:48:12 PM
Tie her up and make her do long division
yeah, that's the stuff.
 
2012-11-01 02:54:02 PM
After barely passing and algebra II twice, I said farkit, and took physics so I'd hopefully learn some type of useful highschool math and it actually worked. Ended up doing most the 'splainin to the college level math folks how stuff worked, and the proofs. So then they got the homework done faster during class for us so it was W /MFW

/interesting story bro
 
2012-11-01 02:57:21 PM
When I was younger and suffered from mild OCD (chewing the same number of times on each side of my mouth etc) I could learn math with ease. Now that I'm older and have far less energy, I find it more difficult. And with math, if you don't use it you lose it.
 
2012-11-01 02:58:28 PM

doyner: Walk it off, kids. Math is your friend. Honestly, everything is easier after Algebra II.


Ahem... Math does not get easier past algebra 2, but it does get more useful.

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2012-11-01 02:58:58 PM
Math is against the Geneva Conventions!
 
2012-11-01 02:59:59 PM
Learned response.

Tell someone that something is hard, enough times, they'll hate it/fear it before they try it.
 
2012-11-01 03:01:05 PM
I see that this thread is trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
 
2012-11-01 03:03:56 PM

wildcardjack: Ahem... Math does not get easier past algebra 2, but it does get more useful.


I know! I've never had to use exponents in my life ever again, but a day doesn't go by without having to whip up a discontinuous Galerkin spectral element method.
 
2012-11-01 03:06:17 PM
1) Researchers find anxiety about math triggers the same brain activity associated with physical sensation of pain.
2) Anyone who tells me you can muliply letters by numbers is nuts. "Green times banana = crocodile".

Sure.

The only thing dumber is "music is math".
 
2012-11-01 03:06:36 PM
I enjoyed and am fascinated by the real-world applications of physics but I just fell to pieces trying to DO the math. Simply do not have a head for arithmetic.
 
2012-11-01 03:06:42 PM

maxis_mydog: Learned response.

Tell someone that something is hard, enough times, they'll hate it/fear it before they try it.


wink wink
 
2012-11-01 03:07:20 PM

maxis_mydog: Tell someone that something is hard, long, and thick enough times, they'll hate it/fear it before they try it.

 
2012-11-01 03:09:19 PM

barefoot in the head: 1) Researchers find anxiety about math triggers the same brain activity associated with physical sensation of pain.
2) Anyone who tells me you can muliply letters by numbers is nuts. "Green times banana = crocodile".

Sure.

The only thing dumber is "music is math".


Everything is a language.
 
2012-11-01 03:10:49 PM
Give people a choice in the pain. Finish the math problem and feel made up mental pain, or don't finish it and the teacher gets to use a tazer.

Whole country of A+ math students in 3 months. Take that Korea!!!!
 
2012-11-01 03:11:53 PM
i was told there would be no maths
 
2012-11-01 03:13:10 PM

PornStarStuntDouble: doyner: Walk it off, kids. Math is your friend. Honestly, everything is easier after Algebra II.

Lies!


there is delicious cake for everyone after algebra II
 
2012-11-01 03:14:44 PM
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2012-11-01 03:15:23 PM

Molavian: barefoot in the head: 1) Researchers find anxiety about math triggers the same brain activity associated with physical sensation of pain.
2) Anyone who tells me you can muliply letters by numbers is nuts. "Green times banana = crocodile".

Sure.

The only thing dumber is "music is math".

Everything is a language.


mathematics is the language of nature
 
2012-11-01 03:18:12 PM

Solty Dog: Math is easier when you come to the realization that everything is addition.

It's never anything more than adding this thing here to this other thing over here.


Long division dude.....
 
2012-11-01 03:20:45 PM

Molavian: barefoot in the head: 1) Researchers find anxiety about math triggers the same brain activity associated with physical sensation of pain.
2) Anyone who tells me you can muliply letters by numbers is nuts. "Green times banana = crocodile".

Sure.

The only thing dumber is "music is math".

Everything is a language.


Everything is a feeling.
Language, like emotion, is an abstraction of that feeling; the description of the moment after the moment has passed.
This the old mythos/logos war, that only logos fights. Mythos feels too good to bother ;)
 
2012-11-01 03:21:25 PM
Anyone who does not comprehend mathematics is not fully human.
 
2012-11-01 03:22:37 PM
I like Science, yet I don't like Math. I don't understand why that's the case seeing as how they are both interconnected in numerous areas.

I blame ugly math teacher teaching me integral calculus.

/And for some reason a lot of people find pre-calc harder than Calculus I
 
2012-11-01 03:24:47 PM
My math hurts.
 
2012-11-01 03:25:11 PM
Weak, subby. Weak.
 
2012-11-01 03:26:26 PM
www.nachomamatees.com
 
2012-11-01 03:28:11 PM

wildcardjack: doyner: Walk it off, kids. Math is your friend. Honestly, everything is easier after Algebra II.

Ahem... Math does not get easier past algebra 2, but it does get more useful.

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Yeah. That is so true. Why just the other day I was trying to discritize my domain of interest into finite elements having M nodes when I realized that damn, I use an app for calculating tips and I literally had to fark my way into a passing calculus grade in college.
 
2012-11-01 03:30:17 PM

LegacyDL: And for some reason a lot of people find pre-calc harder than Calculus I


Probably because it sucks doing all those limit equations, especially with trig functions, the long and hard way. Once you know the rule(s), derivatives are much easier.
 
2012-11-01 03:30:27 PM
Imaginary numbers are so selfish. It's all about i, i, i.

// A joke by my daughter, who is learning algebra
 
2012-11-01 03:35:53 PM
Not surprised.

At all.
 
2012-11-01 03:38:10 PM
imgs.xkcd.com
/got nuthin
//no friends, either :(
///nobody likes an applied mathematician
////slashies
 
2012-11-01 03:38:25 PM
FTFA: "You don't walk around bragging oftentimes that you can't read, but people often talk about how they're not number people or they hate math."

This is the most disturbing part of the article to me. Being proud of your ignorance is a sad human trait.
 
2012-11-01 03:39:17 PM

Loadmaster: Imaginary numbers are so selfish. It's all about i, i, i.


Unless you're an electrical engineer. Then it's all about j, j, j.
 
2012-11-01 03:41:58 PM

Ambitwistor: bring to a festering boil: ....which could be caused by a number of reasons

Zero is a number.


While infinity is a concept that is commonly mistaken for a number - a mistake which has given rise to many of the world's problems over the past 3000 years..
 
2012-11-01 03:44:58 PM
I like learning, but this explains why my brain checks out just about every day at 35 minutes into the class. I just can't take it for much longer than that.

/might also be the sorority girl with the big mouth
//she NEVER shuts up *grumble*
 
2012-11-01 03:48:36 PM
ladyfortuna

I like learning, but this explains why my brain checks out just about every day at 35 minutes into the class. I just can't take it for much longer than that.

/might also be the sorority girl with the big mouth
//she NEVER shuts up *grumble* 


If there is a Bell curve grading scale, thank her for it.
 
2012-11-01 04:00:33 PM
Math is supposed to make your life easier. If you think about how difficult it would be to do things without math, suddenly solving some equations doesn't seem so bad anymore.
 
2012-11-01 04:01:42 PM
bring to a festering boil: ....which could be caused by a number of reasons

Ambitwistor: Zero is a number.

trippdogg: While infinity is a concept that is commonly mistaken for a number - a mistake which has given rise to many of the world's problems over the past 3000 years..


Not including transfinite cardinal and ordinal numbers, of course. Oh, and the surreal numbers.

And, thankfully, none of those "world problems" involved starvation or personal freedoms.
 
2012-11-01 04:04:39 PM
I think I was already aware of this.
 
2012-11-01 04:12:39 PM
funny math quotes:

Arnold Poindexter: So what you're saying essentially is, is that along with infinite space which extends beyond perpetual bigness there's also infinite smallness?
Harold Wormser: [nods head in agreement]
Arnold Poindexter: How?
Harold Wormser: Easy. Take an asymptotic line and extend it outward.
Arnold Poindexter: Oh.
Stewart: Right, right, right. So perpetual bigness exists simultaneously with perpetual smallness. What was I thinking?
Ogre: What if uh C-A-T really spelled dog?
Arnold Poindexter: Wow.
Harold Wormser: God.
Stewart: Yeah.
Arnold Poindexter: That's heavy Ogre. Dog

Foghorn Leghorn:

That's mathematics son....ya can argue with me but ya caint argue with figgers.
 
2012-11-01 04:24:04 PM
MY BRAIN HURTS!
 
2012-11-01 04:33:56 PM
Ok, to those calling me a liar, let me put it to you this way: Everything after Algebra II is merely different variables, representations, and annotations of the same concepts. Calculus is vastly simpler. DifEq is just a calc shortcut. Linear Algebra is just multiple interactive equations. Nonlinear algebra is LA with calculus. Discrete math is just counting and annotating. Probability and statistics is just the guts of the other stuff with pretty pictures.

Seriously. If you get Algebra II you're well on your way to being able to being able to use math to make a living.
 
2012-11-01 04:34:55 PM
As an engineering student, I experienced difficulty only with the most advanced maths courses, such as Differential Equations and Matrix Methods (which was effectively "Calculus IV" under a different name, even taught by a team of two of the professors who taught Calculus I through III). While I ultimately passed the course, doing so required extensively more effort and study time than did any other course that I took.

I often experienced intense anxiety, resulting in feelings of being physically unwell, and extreme discomfort when struggling with difficult to solve problems. Without extensive practice and studying, I would not perform to adequately. However, learning that I had reached the appropriate solution without reliance upon outside aid always proved deeply satisfying.

I suppose in that respect it is much like sex.
 
2012-11-01 05:01:11 PM
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Dominatrix Winnie Cooper just dropped her whip.
 
2012-11-01 05:05:27 PM
www.untoldentertainment.com

Your typical farker feels no pain.
 
2012-11-01 05:09:23 PM
khan academy.

You're welcome.
 
2012-11-01 05:52:28 PM
Loadmaster:
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Anyone who does not comprehend mathematics is not fully human.

"And also: GLEEP ZORP!!
 
2012-11-01 07:17:33 PM
Maybe I would have understood math better and not ended up a librarian had it been taught differently. The problem was the forced memorization of the formulas on tests, which I could never do. The highest math grades I ever got was a B in Geometry (writing proofs), and another B in a junior college math course for Psychology. The last one we were allowed to refer to the formulas and didn't have to memorize them.

I ended up dropping PreCalculus twice before I realized that Physics wasn't a good major for me.
 
2012-11-01 07:36:08 PM
does it also cause you to grow huge tits?

//cause chicks are bad at math.
//it's a joke, get it?
 
2012-11-01 07:43:39 PM

Sticky Hands: Tie her up and make her do long division
yeah, that's the stuff.


Well she asked for something hard and long...
 
2012-11-01 07:49:35 PM
Math... "anxiety"??
People actually get anxious over math??
 
2012-11-01 08:09:19 PM

wildcardjack: doyner: Walk it off, kids. Math is your friend. Honestly, everything is easier after Algebra II.

Ahem... Math does not get easier past algebra 2, but it does get more useful.

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Nuhuh, it's still easy. See, it even says so right there: "Development of finite element characteristics for fluid flow based on the stream function is straightforward"
 
2012-11-01 09:21:02 PM
I knew this in fourth grade, 1951.
 
2012-11-01 09:30:07 PM
I am, even now, climbing over the gigantic Math Anxiety Mountian while taking physics and precalculus for the first time far too late in life.

I really don't have any talent for it at all, and even some disability (dyscalculia.) But I friggin' want it and am doing the work. It really makes all the difference.
 
2012-11-01 10:02:41 PM
Farking derivitives killed my engineering major. Can do multiplication, division, and percentages in my head no problem, but calculus never seemed to register. My ex-gf an accountant can't tell you what 6 times 7 is without a calculator.
 
2012-11-02 02:28:52 AM

GoSlash27: Math... "anxiety"??
People actually get anxious over math??


Yes. I've met sooo many women who absolutely freak out at the sight of even the simplest algebraic expression. I don't get it at all. As far as I can tell, at some point in their childhood they had a female teacher who didn't teach math well---perhaps because the teachers themselves didn't really understand it?---and these young girls got "stuck" on something and never advanced beyond it. From there, it just got harder and harder as they got further and further behind. These girls then hear "math is hard" or "girls can't do math" and they just give up and accept it. Rarely are they embarrassed by it, probably because society tells them it's okay to not be good at math.

It's sad really.


\never had trouble with math
\\ it was just obvious to me
 
2012-11-02 07:05:28 PM

FizixJunkee: GoSlash27: Math... "anxiety"??
People actually get anxious over math??

Yes. I've met sooo many women who absolutely freak out at the sight of even the simplest algebraic expression. I don't get it at all. As far as I can tell, at some point in their childhood they had a female teacher who didn't teach math well---perhaps because the teachers themselves didn't really understand it?---and these young girls got "stuck" on something and never advanced beyond it. From there, it just got harder and harder as they got further and further behind. These girls then hear "math is hard" or "girls can't do math" and they just give up and accept it. Rarely are they embarrassed by it, probably because society tells them it's okay to not be good at math.

It's sad really.


\never had trouble with math
\\ it was just obvious to me


My female math teachers were fine, it was the (early 20s) guy my Junior year who coached the baseball team as his first job and taught math as his second. He about did me in.
 
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