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(NBC News)   Off-duty NYPD officer sacrifices his own life to save family of seven   (usnews.nbcnews.com) divider line 97
    More: Hero, Artur Kasrpzak, N.Y.P.D.  
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2012-11-01 11:21:45 AM
Well played sir. Hero tag well deserved
 
2012-11-01 11:22:22 AM
A tragic loss, yes, but a slightly weird story. He got them all to the attic safely, told them he was just going to check the basement and never returned. Sounds like maybe he got electrocuted while standing in the flooded basement?
 
2012-11-01 12:05:03 PM
Well, that is one way to save them.

I would have done the whole "get them evacuated a day or two before storm" thing myself.

But, that's just me.
 
2012-11-01 12:33:30 PM
Why were they all in a basement?
 
2012-11-01 12:52:46 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: A tragic loss, yes, but a slightly weird story. He got them all to the attic safely, told them he was just going to check the basement and never returned. Sounds like maybe he got electrocuted while standing in the flooded basement?


That's what I was thinking. Article mentions downed power lines that made the attempted rescue by first responders difficult.
 
2012-11-01 02:02:01 PM
Doesn't sound like they were in the basement.

There's more to the story - although in the moment, with adrenalin, even if everyone was accounted for, perhaps he just couldn't help checking out the basement to see how things were going.
 
2012-11-01 02:16:48 PM

Quasar: Why were they all in a basement?


Great question. "Incoming floodwaters! Quick, everyone to low ground!"

Why were they even in the house? Get the fark out of town, people.
 
2012-11-01 02:18:20 PM
He looks like a cop that enjoyed abusing his power.

He just has that kind of face.
 
2012-11-01 02:18:44 PM
I don't want to poop on the hero parade, but he could have saved them all and himself if he'd made them evacuate. It's not like an earthquake where there's no warning.
 
2012-11-01 02:20:44 PM

Beerguy: Well, that is one way to save them.

I would have done the whole "get them evacuated a day or two before storm" thing myself.

But, that's just me.


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2012-11-01 02:20:54 PM
Good Job, Hero.

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2012-11-01 02:21:07 PM
and its his own family.. so its really does not make him a hero.. especially since there does not seem to be any reason associated for him to "risk" his life since they were all saved already.

I revoke the hero tag and replace it with a dumbass tag
 
2012-11-01 02:21:22 PM
Maybe he went back for his bicycle.
 
2012-11-01 02:22:55 PM

namegoeshere: I don't want to poop on the hero parade, but he could have saved them all and himself if he'd made them evacuate. It's not like an earthquake where there's no warning.


My sympathy for your incontinence.
 
2012-11-01 02:23:24 PM
farking pig cop, impeding on their right to die. Welcome to Romney's America.
 
2012-11-01 02:23:27 PM
The key word "own" as in his "OWN" family is missing from the headline. It's not heroic when you save your own family...it is expected. Why were they still in town. if he had more common sense, they would all be alive and none of us would be reading/discussing this.
 
2012-11-01 02:24:01 PM

BarkingUnicorn: namegoeshere: I don't want to poop on the hero parade, but he could have saved them all and himself if he'd made them evacuate. It's not like an earthquake where there's no warning.

My sympathy for your incontinence.


It's a cross I must bear.
 
2012-11-01 02:25:01 PM

Atypical Person Reading Fark: Doesn't sound like they were in the basement.

There's more to the story - although in the moment, with adrenalin, even if everyone was accounted for, perhaps he just couldn't help checking out the basement to see how things were going.


That's what doesn't make sense, they didn't find anyone else in the basement. One would assume he knew how many people where in his own house so why check the basement? If the basement was so flooded to need SCUBA gear what was he doing?
 
2012-11-01 02:25:18 PM
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2012-11-01 02:25:34 PM
hero tag? Get everyone to safety (and himself) then go and play in the flooding basement?

More like Darwin....
 
2012-11-01 02:26:32 PM
So he rescued everyone by getting them to the attic, and after everyone was safe, decided to poke around in the basement? How does that translate he died while saving people?...I'm confuzzled.
 
2012-11-01 02:28:00 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: A tragic loss, yes, but a slightly weird story. He got them all to the attic safely, told them he was just going to check the basement and never returned. Sounds like maybe he got electrocuted while standing in the flooded basement?


This story is probably comes directly from an NPR piece yesterday, which had interviews from the family members. Basically, the father wasn't accounted for in the attic and he went looking for him. Right after he left the attic, the father showed up. Then the father went looking for him and didn't find him. The next day, he was found in the basement after drowning.
 
2012-11-01 02:28:55 PM
He moved the family up to the attic and was going back to rescue his porn stash in the basement when tragedy struck.
 
2012-11-01 02:29:11 PM

thurstonxhowell: Beerguy: Well, that is one way to save them.

I would have done the whole "get them evacuated a day or two before storm" thing myself.

But, that's just me.

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I have to admit that I don't get the reference. I know it is from Southpark, but I obviously didn't see the episode.
 
2012-11-01 02:29:23 PM
Obvious cheap attempt at a "Hero" story is obvious.

Why is it whenever a cop does something while he's not working they have to mention he was "off duty"?
If I died saving my own family I'm pretty sure the headline wouldn't be "Off duty Prepress Technician sacrifices his own life...".

/would probably be "Drunken idiot forgets that the basement is a bad place to be during a hurricane"
 
2012-11-01 02:30:09 PM
This was obviously between tazing someone's grandma and shooting someone's dog.

Not being serious; but, some of you magnificent bastards were probably thinking about posting that.

/ it's like everything else now-a-days; the thousands of positive things that happen never get reported. But, if someone does something negative; you best stop the presses.
 
2012-11-01 02:30:12 PM

kvinesknows: and its his own family.. so its really does not make him a hero.. especially since there does not seem to be any reason associated for him to "risk" his life since they were all saved already.

I revoke the hero tag and replace it with a dumbass tag


I agree--more details are needed on this story. What is so heroic about telling people to get into the attic? Would they not have been able to get there without him? Did he have to carry them up there?

If he had gone into the basement to rescue someone, THAT would have been heroic, but without more information, it sounds like he risked his life for nothing.

RIP officer.
 
2012-11-01 02:30:20 PM
maybe he had a stash of drug and cash evidence he needed to move... flood waters would have spoiled it all, allowing criminals to prosper.

Hero indeed.
 
2012-11-01 02:30:32 PM
It's called "double-checking your work". He was making sure that no one was in the basement.
 
2012-11-01 02:31:41 PM
Not to minimize his heroism, but if there's a flood coming, why is your family in the basement to start with?
 
2012-11-01 02:31:58 PM
The police in Manhattan have been pretty immense the last few days. I live in the Dark Zone and they had teams stationed at every intersection and patrols running down the streets with lights on (no sirens) every few minutes. Definitely made us feel safer in a neighborhood with no lights, power or cell service. I overheard a few in line for coffee yesterday who hadn't been home since Sunday. Very thankful to have them around.
 
2012-11-01 02:32:08 PM

kvinesknows: and its his own family.. so its really does not make him a hero.. especially since there does not seem to be any reason associated for him to "risk" his life since they were all saved already.


Based of yesterday's NPR story on this, he did save a couple people by pulling them from their rooms and taking them to the attic. Including a baby. He was in the process of looking for his father, who showed up in the attic right after he left, when he drowned in the basement.
 
2012-11-01 02:34:10 PM
Don't think the word sacrifice is being used correctly in this instance, subby.
 
2012-11-01 02:35:46 PM

Renowned transvestite sexologist: kvinesknows: and its his own family.. so its really does not make him a hero.. especially since there does not seem to be any reason associated for him to "risk" his life since they were all saved already.

Based of yesterday's NPR story on this, he did save a couple people by pulling them from their rooms and taking them to the attic. Including a baby. He was in the process of looking for his father, who showed up in the attic right after he left, when he drowned in the basement.


how farking big is this house? seriously that must be a huge goddam house.

also. why were they still in town again?
 
2012-11-01 02:37:40 PM

vermicious k'nid: Obvious cheap attempt at a "Hero" story is obvious.

Why is it whenever a cop does something while he's not working they have to mention he was "off duty"?
If I died saving my own family I'm pretty sure the headline wouldn't be "Off duty Prepress Technician sacrifices his own life...".

/would probably be "Drunken idiot forgets that the basement is a bad place to be during a hurricane"


Comment of the day/week right here. And wasn't most of Staten Island a mandatory evacuation zone? Anyhow, sucks the guy died. Sucks more he died for no real reason.
 
2012-11-01 02:38:10 PM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: farking pig cop, impeding on their right to die. Welcome to Romney's America.


The death panel said no.
 
2012-11-01 02:41:55 PM
Off-duty means he was drinking, right?
 
2012-11-01 02:42:01 PM

Quasar: Why were they all in a basement?


With the high winds, the basement would have been a relatively safe place until it flooded. And he wasn't saving anyone when he died. He was stupid and Darwin won again. Someday I kind of expect to get a Darwin award of my own.
 
2012-11-01 02:42:04 PM
A hero for wandering to the basement in a flodo when your family was safe? How about dumbass tag.
 
2012-11-01 02:44:14 PM

vermicious k'nid: Obvious cheap attempt at a "Hero" story is obvious.

Why is it whenever a cop does something while he's not working they have to mention he was "off duty"?
If I died saving my own family I'm pretty sure the headline wouldn't be "Off duty Prepress Technician sacrifices his own life...".

/would probably be "Drunken idiot forgets that the basement is a bad place to be during a hurricane"


That was my thought too.

The headline should read "Father sacrifices his own life...".

Why was he off duty anyway? Seems like every able bodied first responder should have been called into work.
 
2012-11-01 02:47:35 PM
Agree- no hero. Only a dumbass drowns in his own basement in a hurricane that was non-stop news for a week leading up to it.
 
2012-11-01 02:49:49 PM

darth_badger: He moved the family up to the attic and was going back to rescue his porn stash of drug money confiscated but never reported in the basement when tragedy struck.


This is what I was thinking when I read the story.
 
2012-11-01 02:52:47 PM
Cop dies wandering through his basement rather than staying on high ground with the rest of his family. While an avoidable death, that family is suffering and deserves condolences.
 
2012-11-01 02:55:17 PM
This "hero" sounds like a dumbass.

He didn't sacrifice his life saving his family of seven. He had already saved them and for some unknown reason decided to "check the basement" in a house that was rapidly filling with water. Check it for what, exactly?
 
2012-11-01 02:57:04 PM

kvinesknows: Renowned transvestite sexologist: kvinesknows: and its his own family.. so its really does not make him a hero.. especially since there does not seem to be any reason associated for him to "risk" his life since they were all saved already.

Based of yesterday's NPR story on this, he did save a couple people by pulling them from their rooms and taking them to the attic. Including a baby. He was in the process of looking for his father, who showed up in the attic right after he left, when he drowned in the basement.

how farking big is this house? seriously that must be a huge goddam house.

also. why were they still in town again?


Right? I understand the lights are out, the wind is howling, it's hard to see and hear, but it's still weird. Did he and his father both go looking for each other, because it sounds like he knew everyone else was safe and just wanted to check how badly the basement was flooding. How do two people go looking for each other in their own house and miss each other? How does an able-bodied man drown in his own basement, unless 1) he gets trapped inside as it fills up, 2) he slips and is knocked unconscious, or 3) he's standing in water while a power line hits it.

I try not to do the second-guessing thing, and it's certainly tragic, but that was a pretty unclear article.
 
2012-11-01 02:59:33 PM

Ed_Severson: Not to minimize his heroism, but if there's a flood coming, why is your family in the basement to start with?


not to minimize your idiocy BUT maybe just maybe they were in the basement because they were afraid of the gale force wind and didn't account for the flooding which came suddenly... or they thought wind would be more dangerous than water which most times it is.
 
2012-11-01 03:01:29 PM
Officer Kasprzak then told one of the women he was going to check the basement, but would be right back.

NEVER say those words in an emergency situation!
 
2012-11-01 03:06:56 PM

SuperNinjaToad: Ed_Severson: Not to minimize his heroism, but if there's a flood coming, why is your family in the basement to start with?

not to minimize your idiocy BUT maybe just maybe they were in the basement because they were afraid of the gale force wind and didn't account for the flooding which came suddenly... or they thought wind would be more dangerous than water which most times it is.


If they evacuated 2 days before the storm, it would not have been an issue.

I know the Cop would have had to stay because of his civic obligation, however, the rest of the family should not have been there.
 
2012-11-01 03:07:54 PM
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2012-11-01 03:10:26 PM

Chinchillazilla: Officer Kasprzak then told one of the women he was going to check the basement, but would be right back.

NEVER say those words in an emergency situation!


Christ, the only worse thing is to be the token black guy.
 
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