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(The Raw Story)   Guess who really likes FEMA now? Go ahead, guess. Okay, we'll make this multiple choice: a) Mitt Romney, b) Mitt Romney, or c) Mitt Romney   (rawstory.com) divider line 43
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2012-11-01 09:29:23 AM
The answer changed twice while you read the headline.
 
2012-11-01 09:37:15 AM
D) Not enough information to tell.

/you didn't specify which Mitt Romney we were choosing.
//open the box, next time.
 
2012-11-01 10:02:42 AM
he can love FEMA all he wants, still not going to win him New Jersey.
 
2012-11-01 12:02:44 PM
Yes but which one?
 
2012-11-01 12:04:47 PM
Mitt "The Toggle" Romney!
 
2012-11-01 12:06:44 PM
When the story starts by twisting the reality of what he said you know the rest is must-read.
 
2012-11-01 12:07:44 PM
NO! Everyone knows that private charity and boot strappy-ness is what's called for. With the right motivation, the eighty year old biatch who lives next door is quite capable of climbing that utility pole and reconnecting the electric wires to her own house. I'm sure private charity and millionaire job creators will be more than happy to pump the sea water out of the tunnels, rebuild the airports and train trackts, etc, etc.

BTW, I live in New Jersey, about 10 miles from NYC, here is my experience.

No damage to my house. I don't live in a flood zone, so no problem there. The only thing I was worried about was that my asshole neighbor's 80 foot red oak would come down on my house. Tree stayed up......oaks are tough trees.

Just got power back about half an hour ago.....out since 6:30pm Monday. Landline phone worked for making calls in the local exchange, but not for calling any further. Cell service is hit or miss..... there is a cell tower across the street from where I live, so I had cell service the entire time. Had water, natural gas, and sewer service the entire time, but no juice to run the heater, so the house was a balmy 48 degrees this morning. I did have hot water so I got in the shower this morning and that warmed me up. I don't own a generator. I can't remember the last time power went out around here.

All I can say is that this is some farked up shiat....like something I've never seen before. Monday night I thought I was watching lightning flashes, but it was electrical arcing from all the electric lines that were being pulled down. The local supermarket...within bike-riding distance......opened yesterday running off a generator truck.....so food is no problem. Gasoline is a BIG problem, most stations are out. I've got both my cars gassed up, but I'm riding my bike around until the gasoline situation is sorted out. I live 10 miles from NYC and 20 miles from the open ocean and about 5 miles from the towns of Little Ferry and Moonachie. Moonachie and LIttle Ferry are under water, but not because of the rain, of which there was very little. THE STORM PUSHED SEA WATER 15 MILES INLAND. Those towns were flooded by sea water! Sea water flooded lower Manhattan, most of the subway tunnels between Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, Hoboken and Jersey City. Sea water also flooded the Holland tunnel between Manhattan and Jersey City. NJ transit train tracks on the Jersey shore line have been wiped out. There were train cars heaved up on the Jersey Turnpike. The Jersey Shore is farked up beyond belief...the barrier islands have been wiped out.....there are houses sitting on Route 35. Metro-North Hudson line train tracks are wiped out. That's only part of it, this is going to be billions of dollars worth of damage.

/DIY
/John Galt
 
2012-11-01 12:08:39 PM
I believe it's Mitt Romney-A, a different model douchebag droid from Mitt Romney-B and Mitt Romney-C.
 
2012-11-01 12:09:06 PM
Romney is in favor of something that is immoral?
 
2012-11-01 12:14:39 PM
He's the Quantum Candidate; the outcome of what falls out of his mouth depends on who's observing him.
 
2012-11-01 12:21:09 PM
This is completely ridiculous. How can you not get tired of him doing this. All throughout the debates his position on almost every single issue switched from what he was campaigning on during the primaries. Eventually at the last debte it almost seemed like his answer to everything was "I agree wtih the president." Now this.

This guy is just an empty figure head who will do or say whatever is necessary to win. Once in power he is comlpetely untrustworthy because he has no conviction or beliefs of his own.
 
2012-11-01 12:23:30 PM
When Mitt Romney was confronted about his flip flopping he answered "Yes, I am a flip flopper, and I have always resolutely stood behind being a flip flopper." This is in direct opposition to previous statements that he was not a flip flopper. More on this story at 11.
 
2012-11-01 12:24:17 PM
Good God, Mitt! Can you hold a position for more than ten seconds?
 
2012-11-01 12:24:31 PM
"They'll be fine. We tithe!"

downloads.thedaily.com
 
2012-11-01 12:25:29 PM
Speaking of FEMA, where are those re-education camps? Whidbey, you promised me re-education camps!
 
2012-11-01 12:28:05 PM
Wait, so Mitt Romney campaigned for something that resonated with voters at his base and then abruptly and cynically turned around and said the exact opposite just because public opinion shifted? Where the hell did I put my fainting couch!!?

//The great thing about candidate Romney is that no matter what your view is on any particular topic, he has almost certainly agreed with you at one point or another during his campaign.
 
2012-11-01 12:30:22 PM
The man has no shame. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so disgusting.
 
2012-11-01 12:30:24 PM
FEMA is what is in place right now, during a time of emergency.

That doesn't make it good policy.
 
2012-11-01 12:33:59 PM

ManateeGag: he can love FEMA all he wants, still not going to win him New Jersey.


I think NJ was writen off my Romney a long time ago. Romney think he has a chance in PA. Pennsylvania looks like it was hit hard by the storm. It would not suprise me if eastern PA needed some assistance.

Any PA Farkers have any information of how your state did during Sandy? I mostly hear about New York and New Jersey.
 
2012-11-01 12:36:29 PM
He is just getting so boring it isn't even funny anymore.
 
2012-11-01 12:37:30 PM

Fissile: All I can say is that this is some farked up shiat....like something I've never seen before


Thank you for the info. Take care!
 
2012-11-01 12:41:53 PM

Cletus C.: When the story starts by twisting the reality of what he said you know the rest is must-read.


Let's see, what's the first sentence? Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney has changed his tune about his promise to "absolutely" eliminate the federal agency charged with providing relief to the millions of Americans who have been devastated by Hurricane Sandy.

So what was the actual quote? When asked if the states should take on more of the role of FEMA, Romney said, "Absolutely. Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better."

Which could logically be paraphrased as, "Take FEMA from the federal government and give it to the states or the private sector."

If you're "taking this from the federal government" you're "eliminating the agency". So, how is saying that he said we should "absolutely" eliminate FEMA a twisting of reality?
 
2012-11-01 12:42:20 PM

Fissile: BTW, I live in New Jersey


See this picture from a link on the main page? Top pic was taken Sept. 2010 on Google Earth, the bottom one yesterday.

www.washingtonpost.com

This is 5 miles east of my house. That sandy lot in the upper part of the first picture? That was an abandoned marina that the county took 2 years to clean up and turn into a nice little park. It was finished May 2012. Now it's washed out. The bridge was replaced about 8 years ago. Took the state like 6 months to do. Now what isn't washed out is damaged from where a house hit it. Route 35, the road at the bottom of the top pic, was always a nightmare because Bay Head & Mantoloking townships are cheapskates and don't spend enough money on maintenance. Now it's washed out.

You're looking at just maybe a mile square of real estate on the Jersey Coast. Based on how slowly repairs were made in that area in the past, if they were made at all, there's no way in hell that area's coming back without some major outside help. This is why we need FEMA.

/I've been out of power since 5pm Sunday
//I have gas stove & hot water, so cooking & showering is okay, but no heat.
///Came to work today just to get warm.
 
2012-11-01 12:48:29 PM

brigid_fitch: Fissile: BTW, I live in New Jersey

See this picture from a link on the main page? Top pic was taken Sept. 2010 on Google Earth, the bottom one yesterday.



This is 5 miles east of my house. That sandy lot in the upper part of the first picture? That was an abandoned marina that the county took 2 years to clean up and turn into a nice little park. It was finished May 2012. Now it's washed out. The bridge was replaced about 8 years ago. Took the state like 6 months to do. Now what isn't washed out is damaged from where a house hit it. Route 35, the road at the bottom of the top pic, was always a nightmare because Bay Head & Mantoloking townships are cheapskates and don't spend enough money on maintenance. Now it's washed out.

You're looking at just maybe a mile square of real estate on the Jersey Coast. Based on how slowly repairs were made in that area in the past, if they were made at all, there's no way in hell that area's coming back without some major outside help. This is why we need FEMA.

/I've been out of power since 5pm Sunday
//I have gas stove & hot water, so cooking & showering is okay, but no heat.
///Came to work today just to get warm.


I'll send y'all some bootstraps, stay safe in the meantime.
 
2012-11-01 12:49:31 PM

Muta: ManateeGag: he can love FEMA all he wants, still not going to win him New Jersey.

I think NJ was writen off my Romney a long time ago. Romney think he has a chance in PA. Pennsylvania looks like it was hit hard by the storm. It would not suprise me if eastern PA needed some assistance.

Any PA Farkers have any information of how your state did during Sandy? I mostly hear about New York and New Jersey.


Friends in Palmer Twp (near Easton) have been without power since Monday. AT&T cell service was non-existent even yesterday. Verizon cell service is spotty there, at best. No flooding in the area & not a lot of home damage (my friends had zero damage. The one worrisome tree in their front yard was taken out by the October snowstorm last year). Power's out from downed trees that crews are still trying to clear from major roads.
 
2012-11-01 12:50:57 PM

timujin: Cletus C.: When the story starts by twisting the reality of what he said you know the rest is must-read.

Let's see, what's the first sentence? Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney has changed his tune about his promise to "absolutely" eliminate the federal agency charged with providing relief to the millions of Americans who have been devastated by Hurricane Sandy.

So what was the actual quote? When asked if the states should take on more of the role of FEMA, Romney said, "Absolutely. Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better."

Which could logically be paraphrased as, "Take FEMA from the federal government and give it to the states or the private sector."

If you're "taking this from the federal government" you're "eliminating the agency". So, how is saying that he said we should "absolutely" eliminate FEMA a twisting of reality?


You were doing so well. Then you had to fall right into the freeper. Dang.
 
2012-11-01 01:30:20 PM

Fissile: BTW, I live in New Jersey, about 10 miles from NYC, here is my experience..


I'm probably about 5 miles from you. I just got power back this morning. The tree in my yard crushed my fence and my neighbors shed and I had some roof damage but thankfully that was all.

I work for a phone company just outside NYC. The PSTN is half buggered at the moment but things are improving. Today is already much better than yesterday. Stay strong, things are starting to come under control.

/Offer not valid in south Jersey. Those poor bastards are living like it's lord of the flies.
 
2012-11-01 01:55:08 PM

Cletus C.: timujin: Cletus C.: When the story starts by twisting the reality of what he said you know the rest is must-read.

Let's see, what's the first sentence? Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney has changed his tune about his promise to "absolutely" eliminate the federal agency charged with providing relief to the millions of Americans who have been devastated by Hurricane Sandy.

So what was the actual quote? When asked if the states should take on more of the role of FEMA, Romney said, "Absolutely. Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better."

Which could logically be paraphrased as, "Take FEMA from the federal government and give it to the states or the private sector."

If you're "taking this from the federal government" you're "eliminating the agency". So, how is saying that he said we should "absolutely" eliminate FEMA a twisting of reality?

You were doing so well. Then you had to fall right into the freeper. Dang.


So... no answer then?

/Also, do you know what "freeper" means?
 
2012-11-01 02:07:00 PM
Wonder if that had to do with me plastering the comment on every news site that he cut funding for flood victims as governor....
 
2012-11-01 02:16:23 PM
A guy I work with said we should "privative FEMA to get some accountability." I don't understand what he means. Wouldn't a private FEMA be solely accountable to its shareholders? Unless it bills the people it's saving (which defeats the whole purpose), then it would have to bill the state and federal governments, so all that it really is is a middleman. Unless the governments could refuse to pay for non-delivery of services, but I don't see that happening.
 
2012-11-01 02:23:57 PM
Mitt's Natural Disaster Plan:

#1 Defund FEMA
#2 Donate $5,000 worth of canned goods to Midwestern food shelf
#3 Take photo op
#4 Wipe hands because problem is solved.
 
2012-11-01 02:28:57 PM
"As president, I will ensure FEMA has the funding it needs to fulfill its mission, while directing maximum resources to the first responders who work tirelessly to help those in need, because states and localities are in the best position to get aid to the individuals and communities affected by natural disasters."


Translation: I've received input that "you people" really like FEMA, so fine, I won't eliminate it. I'm still going to substantially reduce its funding, but hopefully you didn't notice that's what I'm really saying.
 
2012-11-01 02:29:23 PM

Citrate1007: Mitt's Natural Disaster Plan:

#1 Defund FEMA
#2 Donate $5,000 worth of canned goods to Midwestern food shelf
#3 Take photo op
#4 Wipe hands because problem is solved.


#5 Have Ryan re-wipe Mitt's clean hands for a photo-op
 
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2012-11-01 02:39:57 PM
Absolutely*
 
2012-11-01 04:01:30 PM

Cletus C.: When the story starts by twisting the reality of what he said you know the rest is must-read.


exactly. he never said he hated FEMA. he just wants to defund it. just like how he likes pbs and big bird too, but doesn't want to waste tax payer dollars on it. he loves all government services, he just doesn't want to pay for it.
 
2012-11-01 04:07:12 PM
"Cross our hearts and hope to die, we believe in all these things; but we do not like the way the present Administration is doing them. Just turn them over to us. We will do all of them-we will do more of them, we will do them better; and, most important of all, the doing of them will not cost anybody anything."
 
2012-11-01 04:51:22 PM

not5am: Cletus C.: When the story starts by twisting the reality of what he said you know the rest is must-read.

exactly. he never said he hated FEMA. he just wants to defund it. just like how he likes pbs and big bird too, but doesn't want to waste tax payer dollars on it. he loves all government services, he just doesn't want to pay for it.


I don't know if he said he wants to defund it, but he did say that he wants to take away that role from the federal government and give it to the states or to private enterprise. Sure, that includes defunding it, but only because you're getting rid of the whole thing.
 
2012-11-01 05:09:37 PM

timujin: not5am: Cletus C.: When the story starts by twisting the reality of what he said you know the rest is must-read.

exactly. he never said he hated FEMA. he just wants to defund it. just like how he likes pbs and big bird too, but doesn't want to waste tax payer dollars on it. he loves all government services, he just doesn't want to pay for it.

I don't know if he said he wants to defund it, but he did say that he wants to take away that role from the federal government and give it to the states or to private enterprise. Sure, that includes defunding it, but only because you're getting rid of the whole thing.


I hate how Politifact, in some perverse effort to be "balanced", had to find something that Obama was "pants-on-fire" lying about, so they said that Obama's statement "Romney wants to fire Big Bird" was a "pants-on-fire lie" because Romney didn't say anything about getting rid of the character Big Bird specifically, just about defunding PBS.
 
2012-11-01 05:14:24 PM

Lord Dimwit: timujin: not5am: Cletus C.: When the story starts by twisting the reality of what he said you know the rest is must-read.

exactly. he never said he hated FEMA. he just wants to defund it. just like how he likes pbs and big bird too, but doesn't want to waste tax payer dollars on it. he loves all government services, he just doesn't want to pay for it.

I don't know if he said he wants to defund it, but he did say that he wants to take away that role from the federal government and give it to the states or to private enterprise. Sure, that includes defunding it, but only because you're getting rid of the whole thing.

I hate how Politifact, in some perverse effort to be "balanced", had to find something that Obama was "pants-on-fire" lying about, so they said that Obama's statement "Romney wants to fire Big Bird" was a "pants-on-fire lie" because Romney didn't say anything about getting rid of the character Big Bird specifically, just about defunding PBS.


Yeah, I've noticed that they've gotten pretty bad about obsessing over semantics so they can say both sides are bad.
 
2012-11-01 06:13:11 PM

Ed Grubermann: Good God, Mitt! Can you hold a position for more than ten seconds?


Nope. Just ask his wife.
 
2012-11-01 07:01:31 PM
What time is it?
 
2012-11-01 08:12:01 PM

Cletus C.: When the story starts by twisting the reality of what he said you know the rest is must-read.


You didn't build that
 
2012-11-01 09:06:48 PM

jcooli09: Cletus C.: When the story starts by twisting the reality of what he said you know the rest is must-read.

You didn't build that


oh ho, he actually did build that, built it all by himself for himself.
 
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