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2012-11-01 04:42:55 AM  

dickfreckle:
But yeah, I'm going to have it done.


Don't forget the dog's either.
 
2012-11-01 04:43:56 AM  
Just think of it like removing tumors that would shorten and degrade yer pup's quality of life, man. That's what I did with my pup up there. I'm so glad I did it, too, his "family" has had a bad time of testicular cancer. One less thing to worry about.
 
2012-11-01 04:48:08 AM  

IsThatYourFinalAnswer: Meet Tanner. He's not a rescue, but he has a big job for a little ball of fluff. Snipped, too.


That is the most adorable pooch I've ever seen. Wasn't even aware that dogs can be trained for seizures.
 
2012-11-01 04:51:04 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: dickfreckle:
But yeah, I'm going to have it done.

Don't forget the dog's either.


I've always maintained that if I just cut my balls off, most of the suffering in my life will cease.

/balls - the cause and solution to all life's problems
 
2012-11-01 04:56:10 AM  

dickfreckle: Dokushin: Your dog is constantly horny. Dogs can't masturbate. Think about it. Always fix your animals if you're not going to give them the opportunity to mate. They'll be much happier.

In the span of this thread, I've made the decision to...sigh...lop them off. I appreciate all the input Farkers like yourself have given.

Still gonna hate myself, though. But after I feed him better than I feed myself for a few days, I think he'll come to terms with it, if he remembers anything at all. If you scroll to the pic I posted above, how can you tell me you'd just cut this little guy's balls off without having some remorse? Dude has already had his abdomen shredded by a fighting Pit, and now I gotta chop his testicles off? Just doesn't seem fair.

But yes, it is the smart decision.

But yeah, I'm going to have it done.


It's never easy to do something that you know will cause pain. But that's what responsibility is, right? The dog loves you and trusts you -- so let him trust you, and do what's best for him, and he'll understand, I promise. Responsibility is never easy, but when you get your shoulder under it it's always rewarding. I'd buy you a beer for having the decency to even think about what you're doing to your little buddy. So many people just want something they can post on YouTube.

\Salud
 
2012-11-01 05:08:43 AM  

dickfreckle: Dokushin: Your dog is constantly horny. Dogs can't masturbate. Think about it. Always fix your animals if you're not going to give them the opportunity to mate. They'll be much happier.

In the span of this thread, I've made the decision to...sigh...lop them off. I appreciate all the input Farkers like yourself have given.

Still gonna hate myself, though. But after I feed him better than I feed myself for a few days, I think he'll come to terms with it, if he remembers anything at all. If you scroll to the pic I posted above, how can you tell me you'd just cut this little guy's balls off without having some remorse? Dude has already had his abdomen shredded by a fighting Pit, and now I gotta chop his testicles off? Just doesn't seem fair.

But yes, it is the smart decision.

But yeah, I'm going to have it done.


Don't feel bad- dogs aren't people. They don't think about their genitals or their sexual identity, they just have urges because of their hormones but no paws to masturbate with or dog porn to look at or even the ability to picture it in their mind so they just wind up humping things without even knowing what they're doing or why they're doing it. All you're doing is removing urges that would just be bothersome to him, spayed and neutered pets are happier than unfixed ones. He won't know what's happened to him, he'll just be more relaxed later.
 
2012-11-01 05:10:34 AM  
Er...I mean HANDS to masturbate with. Hopefully your dog has paws.
 
2012-11-01 05:35:46 AM  

Dokushin: But that's what responsibility is, right?


This idea is what persuaded me. No, I don't want to scissor his balls off. But I also have an obligation to my community. As convinced as I am that I can keep him under my control, it will only take one instance for him to terrorize the neighborhood with his johnson. And I've seen what this lil' bastard can do once he puts his mind to it.
 
2012-11-01 05:42:28 AM  
Also a disapproved method:

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2012-11-01 05:47:25 AM  

ambercat: Don't feel bad- dogs aren't people.


I agree with you, but at the same time they're HIS BALLS, dammit. I was just conflicted about having Dr. Mike take a scalpel to them. I know he doesn't value his nuts the same way I do.

But as most of you have said, it's the smart and responsible thing to do.

I'm really sorry about this, lil' brudder. Please forgive me. I think NY strip is on sale at the grocery store. If not, we'll do sirloin.

/needs about 7 more pounds, and I'll stop feeding him people food
 
2012-11-01 06:34:40 AM  
i.imgur.com

/Just try it
 
2012-11-01 06:42:30 AM  

ZAZ: The action caused horrific injuries to the dogs, she said.

Professional testicle excision also causes horrific injury. That's the point of neutering.


Sorry man. Sepsis is in a different class.

i101.photobucket.com

They tried to "back yard neuter" this guy. It REALLY didn't work out. He was on IV fluids for 6 weeks, his prev owner is banned from ever owning an animal again by order of the state of Tennessee (when the Land of Dogs On Chains thinks you are a bad owner... you must REALLY suck), and now he's a couch-thief.
 
2012-11-01 06:58:54 AM  
Long ago and far away I had a choice, pay $800 to have the haematomas on my dogs ears fixed or pay $300 to have the haematomas fixed and have him neutered at the same time (special price for neutering, haematomas fixed while he was anesthetized for that).

I turned in my man card, saved $500, and my dog lost his nads.
 
2012-11-01 07:20:27 AM  

dickfreckle: Dokushin: Your dog is constantly horny. Dogs can't masturbate. Think about it. Always fix your animals if you're not going to give them the opportunity to mate. They'll be much happier.

In the span of this thread, I've made the decision to...sigh...lop them off. I appreciate all the input Farkers like yourself have given.

Still gonna hate myself, though. But after I feed him better than I feed myself for a few days, I think he'll come to terms with it, if he remembers anything at all. If you scroll to the pic I posted above, how can you tell me you'd just cut this little guy's balls off without having some remorse? Dude has already had his abdomen shredded by a fighting Pit, and now I gotta chop his testicles off? Just doesn't seem fair.

But yes, it is the smart decision.

But yeah, I'm going to have it done.


I believe I need to open a dog brothel just to fleece individuals this obsessed with their dog's cajones
 
2012-11-01 07:23:54 AM  

dickfreckle: Tainted1: You've got a ticking time bomb ala damaged goods, the testicles only amplify your potential problem. Neuter him before the inevitable farktastrophe and you get sued off of the face of the planet

Nah, he's a sweet-pea. And only 25 lbs (fattening him up as we speak). The biggest problem I'm having is that I have to somehow combine being in authority and not terrifying him. He's a good boy.

But I do understand where you're coming from, because as we all know balls are responsible for most of the things that have gone wrong in history. Again, I also hate the idea of lopping off another dude's nuts. You can kinda see the dilemma here.

[i.imgur.com image 640x361]


Mister, it's not "another dude", its a dog. First, bless your soul, and congratulations for adopting a wretched soul of an animal in desparate need of a loving home.

Now, if you don't want that dog p*ssing all over your furniture and having aggression issues, please do everyone a favor and DO IT. The dog will still be a good watchdog and wonderful pet; neutiring won't change anyting, except perhaps for bringing more unwanted dog babies into the world.
 
2012-11-01 07:26:01 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I wish someone would neuter the feral cats in my neighborhood.

Instead they keep leaving food and milk out for them.


Do what I did, set up a large live-animal trap and trap them and bring them to the humane society. I did that after things got out of control in the neighborhood and caught at least 10 cats this way. If people can't be bothered to take care of their cats they should not belong to them. Of course I also once caught a very large possum that way but I let him go... would have been funny to take that big stinky thing to the humane society and try to pass it off as a cat :P
 
2012-11-01 07:27:49 AM  

MurphyMurphy: Tainted1: dickfreckle: I just adopted a great pooch who was bait for fights (former owner is currently facing trial, so we're told). Thing is, he still has his nuts. Since I live in the city and he's never outside without my supervision, I want to leave his balls intact. On the other hand, every time a lady dog goes by he runs to the balcony and makes a huge scene.

All I know is that if you took me for a ride in a car and then I woke up 10 hours later without my balls, I'd be pretty damned upset about it.

Any Farkers who have struggled with this decision are welcome to give me some advice.

/balls, man

You've got a ticking time bomb ala damaged goods, the testicles only amplify your potential problem. Neuter him before the inevitable farktastrophe and you get sued off of the face of the planet

It's probably way too late for neutering to help.
Do it anyways, but the behavior is set in after a time.


"Cut proud," that's called. Yeah, wait long enough and you don't get the behavioral benefits. Make a vet appointment just to talk it over.
 
2012-11-01 07:33:56 AM  
Here's a great TED talk that Mike Rowe gave on how full of shiat the Humane Society is. It really is worth the time to listen to it. I don't know why it won't let me link it.

Copy pasta and take out the spaces the filter puts in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRVdiH u1VCc&feature=related
 
2012-11-01 07:41:03 AM  
Man, even for using an elastrator on livestock, you don't just buy the bands and start at it, you have other people who've done it for years show you how the first few times so you avoid these sorts of complications.
 
2012-11-01 07:43:07 AM  
Pugh said the practice of using bands on livestock is not unusual, but it is not appropriate for dogs.

More illogical anthropomorphism from pet owners. Dogs are not significantly smarter than cows or horses, and they are less intelligent than pigs. Just because you let him in the house and call him "Jack," that doesn't suddenly mean a dog is capable of grieving the loss of his reproductive capability on some deep philosophical level.
 
2012-11-01 08:00:57 AM  

dickfreckle: On the other hand, every time a lady dog goes by he runs to the balcony and makes a huge scene.


Imagine being a horny, horny guy who keeps having naked women walk past him that he can NEVER EVER EVER have sex with. Worse, he can smell them for miles. He knows they're out there so his entire life and being is focused on getting to them. Nor can he effectively masturbate. All he can really do is think, all the time, about all of the sex he's not having.

Castrating a dog that you have no intention of breeding is one of the kindest things you can do for it. Kills the sex drive and gives the dog a little goddamn peace from the constant, unending need to fark something.
 
2012-11-01 08:13:50 AM  

dickfreckle: I just adopted a great pooch who was bait for fights (former owner is currently facing trial, so we're told). Thing is, he still has his nuts. Since I live in the city and he's never outside without my supervision, I want to leave his balls intact. On the other hand, every time a lady dog goes by he runs to the balcony and makes a huge scene.

All I know is that if you took me for a ride in a car and then I woke up 10 hours later without my balls, I'd be pretty damned upset about it.

Any Farkers who have struggled with this decision are welcome to give me some advice.

/balls, man


Good thing dogs don't have to pay child support, 'cause this isn't going to work.
 
2012-11-01 08:16:24 AM  
CSS-
So I've got a co-worker who tells this "humorous" semi-botched at-home dog-neutering anecdote.
He even pulled it out one time to "lighten the mood" when another co-worker mentioned she was grieving the loss of her pooch.
WTH???? And what to do?
 
2012-11-01 08:19:46 AM  

Tommy Moo: Pugh said the practice of using bands on livestock is not unusual, but it is not appropriate for dogs.

More illogical anthropomorphism from pet owners. Dogs are not significantly smarter than cows or horses, and they are less intelligent than pigs. Just because you let him in the house and call him "Jack," that doesn't suddenly mean a dog is capable of grieving the loss of his reproductive capability on some deep philosophical level.


fark yourself and die with a cactus you cum-guzzling beef-witted cork-cocked ruminant.

Elastic band castrations aren't acceptable for ANY animals.
 
2012-11-01 08:21:57 AM  

E5bie: CSS-
So I've got a co-worker who tells this "humorous" semi-botched at-home dog-neutering anecdote.
He even pulled it out one time to "lighten the mood" when another co-worker mentioned she was grieving the loss of her pooch.
WTH???? And what to do?


"Your story was bad, and you should feel bad. You can now shut up forever, coworker."
 
2012-11-01 08:43:23 AM  

doglover: Tommy Moo: Pugh said the practice of using bands on livestock is not unusual, but it is not appropriate for dogs.

More illogical anthropomorphism from pet owners. Dogs are not significantly smarter than cows or horses, and they are less intelligent than pigs. Just because you let him in the house and call him "Jack," that doesn't suddenly mean a dog is capable of grieving the loss of his reproductive capability on some deep philosophical level.

fark yourself and die with a cactus you cum-guzzling beef-witted cork-cocked ruminant.

Elastic band castrations aren't acceptable for ANY animals.


I'm just going with the article, you farking spaz. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Why aren't you directing your frothing, spittle-flecked rage at Pugh here? If elastic band castration is cruel to dogs, then it's cruel to cows. If it's ok for cows, then it's ok for dogs. My only point is that cows = dogs and dog owners tend to ascribe irrational human qualities to their dogs because they are pets, which you have dutifully proven with your bath salt freakout here, thank you.
 
2012-11-01 08:56:16 AM  

Tommy Moo: I'm just going with the article, you farking spaz.


Just following orders, Herr Moo?

It's cruel for any creature, great or small.
 
2012-11-01 09:04:45 AM  

Tommy Moo: doglover: Tommy Moo: Pugh said the practice of using bands on livestock is not unusual, but it is not appropriate for dogs.

More illogical anthropomorphism from pet owners. Dogs are not significantly smarter than cows or horses, and they are less intelligent than pigs. Just because you let him in the house and call him "Jack," that doesn't suddenly mean a dog is capable of grieving the loss of his reproductive capability on some deep philosophical level.

fark yourself and die with a cactus you cum-guzzling beef-witted cork-cocked ruminant.

Elastic band castrations aren't acceptable for ANY animals.

I'm just going with the article, you farking spaz. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Why aren't you directing your frothing, spittle-flecked rage at Pugh here? If elastic band castration is cruel to dogs, then it's cruel to cows. If it's ok for cows, then it's ok for dogs. My only point is that cows = dogs and dog owners tend to ascribe irrational human qualities to their dogs because they are pets, which you have dutifully proven with your bath salt freakout here, thank you.


They explained it in the video. The issue isn't that the castration itself is any more or less cruel, it's that dogs will lick and scratch their wounds, often getting them infected and causing serious harm to them beyond the castration. Livestock doesn't do that, I guess?
 
2012-11-01 09:17:12 AM  

starsrift: E5bie: CSS-
So I've got a co-worker who tells this "humorous" semi-botched at-home dog-neutering anecdote.
He even pulled it out one time to "lighten the mood" when another co-worker mentioned she was grieving the loss of her pooch.
WTH???? And what to do?

"Your story was bad, and you should feel bad. You can now shut up forever, coworker."


Sounds appropriate - though to my shame I'm often speechless when shocked in real life.
 
2012-11-01 09:33:48 AM  

tutti: They explained it in the video. The issue isn't that the castration itself is any more or less cruel, it's that dogs will lick and scratch their wounds, often getting them infected and causing serious harm to them beyond the castration. Livestock doesn't do that, I guess?


A lot of them do that with regular neutering too, thus the cone of shame frequently being issued. The issue here really isn't the elastrator, it's that idiots with no goddamned training on either performing the procedure or the proper follow ups are doing it.
 
2012-11-01 09:42:46 AM  

doglover: Tommy Moo: I'm just going with the article, you farking spaz.

Just following orders, Herr Moo?

It's cruel for any creature, great or small.


You are farking retarded. You are the person Godwin's Law was invented to ridicule.
 
2012-11-01 09:49:51 AM  

spyderqueen: The issue here really isn't the elastrator, it's that idiots with no goddamned training on either performing the procedure or the proper follow ups are doing it.


Really, the issue is the elastrator. Lambs and calves have low-hanging scrotums, around which the rubber band fits easily without direct pressure on the testicles. There is no way to put a band on a dog (or a pig, for that matter) that will not look like an attempt to pop the scrotum like a teenager's zit.  Damage to the testicles is severe, thus the danger of sepsis that is virtually non-existent with lambs and calves. Horses cannot be elastrated for the same reason.

Surgery is quick and relatively painless. I raise pigs and castrate them upon weaning at 8 weeks. No anesthesia. They squeal pretty good during the operation but it's usually completed in less than a minute, sprayed liberally with an antiseptic and, usually within minutes the little oinker is back to eating and playing with siblings. No loss of weight gain or growth rate. And they apparently don't hold a grudge - they're more than happy to come up to me and beg for tasty morsels like pumpkins, turnips, eggs, apples . . .
 
2012-11-01 09:59:46 AM  
You did a good thing adopting this pup, now do the other good thing and have him neutered. Like everyone says, he's a dog, he doesn't have attachments to anything, least of all his balls. Plus, he'll be a much happier boy, and he'll fatten up in no time. I don't have a dog, but the cat I adopted three years ago was crazy, aggressive and just plain annoying until I had him snipped. He calmed down nicely in a few weeks, now he's much calmer and getting nice and plump.
 
2012-11-01 10:00:56 AM  

blender61: dickfreckle: All I know is that if you took me for a ride in a car and then I woke up 10 hours later without my balls, I'd be pretty damned upset about it.
Any Farkers who have struggled with this decision are welcome to give me some advice.

Nope, though I can only speak for myself, I have never contemplated having my friend drive me to a vet to get me nards lopped off.

Take your meds, they work wonders.


i.ebayimg.com
 
2012-11-01 10:08:24 AM  

Mr. Right: spyderqueen: The issue here really isn't the elastrator, it's that idiots with no goddamned training on either performing the procedure or the proper follow ups are doing it.

Really, the issue is the elastrator. Lambs and calves have low-hanging scrotums, around which the rubber band fits easily without direct pressure on the testicles. There is no way to put a band on a dog (or a pig, for that matter) that will not look like an attempt to pop the scrotum like a teenager's zit.  Damage to the testicles is severe, thus the danger of sepsis that is virtually non-existent with lambs and calves. Horses cannot be elastrated for the same reason.

Surgery is quick and relatively painless. I raise pigs and castrate them upon weaning at 8 weeks. No anesthesia. They squeal pretty good during the operation but it's usually completed in less than a minute, sprayed liberally with an antiseptic and, usually within minutes the little oinker is back to eating and playing with siblings. No loss of weight gain or growth rate. And they apparently don't hold a grudge - they're more than happy to come up to me and beg for tasty morsels like pumpkins, turnips, eggs, apples . . .


Good point. In which case I guess working with someone who knows what they're doing would tell them that.
 
2012-11-01 10:52:21 AM  

Tommy Moo: If elastic band castration is cruel to dogs, then it's cruel to cows. If it's ok for cows, then it's ok for dogs.


Wait, cows have testicles now? I thought only the bulls did?
 
2012-11-01 11:02:20 AM  
Please join with me in giving a warm welcome to "Testicle strangulation "!
 
2012-11-01 11:04:30 AM  
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2012-11-01 11:17:45 AM  

RobSeace: Tommy Moo: If elastic band castration is cruel to dogs, then it's cruel to cows. If it's ok for cows, then it's ok for dogs.

Wait, cows have testicles now? I thought only the bulls did?


I thought cows were the species, and then you have bulls and heifers, like deer can be does or bucks. I could be mistaken.
 
2012-11-01 11:18:35 AM  

tutti: Tommy Moo: doglover: Tommy Moo: Pugh said the practice of using bands on livestock is not unusual, but it is not appropriate for dogs.

More illogical anthropomorphism from pet owners. Dogs are not significantly smarter than cows or horses, and they are less intelligent than pigs. Just because you let him in the house and call him "Jack," that doesn't suddenly mean a dog is capable of grieving the loss of his reproductive capability on some deep philosophical level.

fark yourself and die with a cactus you cum-guzzling beef-witted cork-cocked ruminant.

Elastic band castrations aren't acceptable for ANY animals.

I'm just going with the article, you farking spaz. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Why aren't you directing your frothing, spittle-flecked rage at Pugh here? If elastic band castration is cruel to dogs, then it's cruel to cows. If it's ok for cows, then it's ok for dogs. My only point is that cows = dogs and dog owners tend to ascribe irrational human qualities to their dogs because they are pets, which you have dutifully proven with your bath salt freakout here, thank you.

They explained it in the video. The issue isn't that the castration itself is any more or less cruel, it's that dogs will lick and scratch their wounds, often getting them infected and causing serious harm to them beyond the castration. Livestock doesn't do that, I guess?


Well that I can buy, at least. Thanks for offering some info, unlike Madame Coronary up there.
 
2012-11-01 11:27:17 AM  
Another big advantage of having you dog nuetered it that you don't have to see dog balls.
 
2012-11-01 11:54:37 AM  

Tommy Moo: RobSeace: Tommy Moo: If elastic band castration is cruel to dogs, then it's cruel to cows. If it's ok for cows, then it's ok for dogs.

Wait, cows have testicles now? I thought only the bulls did?

I thought cows were the species, and then you have bulls and heifers, like deer can be does or bucks. I could be mistaken.


You're correct that is has informally come to mean basically "cattle" in general, however the proper meaning is "the mature female of a bovine animal, especially of the genus Bos" or "the female of various other large animals, as the elephant or whale"... Ie: it's properly always a female...

/And, a heifer is a young cow that's not yet had any offspring...
 
2012-11-01 12:00:17 PM  

AugieDoggyDaddy: Another big advantage of having you dog nuetered it that you don't have to see dog balls.


Or have them brush against your face
 
2012-11-01 12:17:13 PM  

spyderqueen: Good point. In which case I guess working with someone who knows what they're doing would tell them that.


Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that folks should castrate their dogs at home, just with a scalpel instead of an elastrator. I've been doing pigs and calves for over 40 years and I was trained on proper technique that is efficient and least stressful for the animal. I've also been doing lambs for 25 years. Have never done a dog. No matter how similar to a pig it might look, I always leave that to the pros - my vet!
 
2012-11-01 12:40:24 PM  
Grew up on a farm, used to band goats,sheep,cattle etc. I've never had the need to band a dog, but I don't see how it would be any different than banding any other animal.
 
2012-11-01 01:05:19 PM  

dickfreckle: ambercat: Don't feel bad- dogs aren't people.

I agree with you, but at the same time they're HIS BALLS, dammit. I was just conflicted about having Dr. Mike take a scalpel to them. I know he doesn't value his nuts the same way I do.

But as most of you have said, it's the smart and responsible thing to do.

I'm really sorry about this, lil' brudder. Please forgive me. I think NY strip is on sale at the grocery store. If not, we'll do sirloin.

/needs about 7 more pounds, and I'll stop feeding him people food


Here's my buddy's dog right after his operation. He doesn't seem that affected by it. Besides the cone of shame, that is.
i104.photobucket.com
He was struggling with the decision as well. It seems to be very difficult for men in particular to have this done :) Thanks for adopting such a cutie though. Good luck with him!
 
2012-11-01 01:41:37 PM  
Ok. Bad story time.

Back in the old country, around sixty years back, they didn't use fancy elastic bands and they certainly didn't take a dog to a vet for something like that.

No, the way to castrate a dog was that you tie a noose in about five yards of fishing line, place it around the dog's nutsack and find a solid (exterior) door handle to tie the other end of the line to.

Then apply a lit cigarette to the poor mutt's arsehole.
 
2012-11-01 03:41:23 PM  

Freudian_slipknot: Imagine being a horny, horny guy who keeps having naked women walk past him that he can NEVER EVER EVER have sex with. Worse, he can smell them for miles. He knows they're out there so his entire life and being is focused on getting to them.


Sounds like your average farker...

Nor can he effectively masturbate. All he can really do is think, all the time, about all of the sex he's not having.

Ah, there's the difference.
 
2012-11-02 08:58:41 AM  

Hikeeba: He was struggling with the decision as well. It seems to be very difficult for men in particular to have this done :) Thanks for adopting such a cutie though. Good luck with him!


That's why I struggle. Nearly every decision I've ever made has at least been somewhat grounded in reason. But as a man, I have an immediate and highly visceral reaction to the idea of having 'nards removed. They're also fun to scratch, or in the dog's case, lick (lucky bastard).

To reiterate, I am having it done. :(

/your friend's pooch is adorable
 
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