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(Daily Mail)   Thinking of dressing up your baby in a Halloween costume? Well a rights group says: 'It is not like older children dressing up for fun. It is potentially objectifying babies who have no say in what they wear   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 166
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2012-11-01 03:48:12 AM

profplump: I_Hate_Iowa: An old person could potentially complain, find it humiliating, object and be ignored. A baby can shiat its pants and not care one way or another about a costume.

I'm not sure how you're determining that a baby doesn't care, or that an old person does, but we'll ignore that for now.

I'm not talking about a somewhat feeble person, who needs help moving around. I'm talking about a 35-year-old that's in perfectly good physical shape but is developmentally disabled and unable to care for themselves. Or a coma patient. Or someone so senile that, while they sometimes talk, they are effectively non-communicatve. All these people would be subject to legal guardianship and would provide the same amount of social feedback (and sometimes less) than an infant. But all these people enjoy additional protections both by law and social convention.

Why? Why are children an entirely different class of dependent citizens?


Because (for the most part) children will not always be dependent citizens. Not only that but there is a difference between raising a child and caring for an adult who has the mentality of a child.
 
2012-11-01 05:15:22 AM

profplump: bborchar: Why don't we let babies make ALL of their own choices? Oh, that's right- they CAN'T.

Here's a quick (but not comprehensive) test to distinguish between "a valid choice made as the guardian for someone unable to make their own decisions" and "a potentially abusive choice made for the benefit of the guardian" -- if your aged and senile mother was assigned a non-family guardian or caretaker, would you be upset if that guardian did the same thing to your mother that you're doing to your child? If you would, you shouldn't do it to your child.


Haha. Equating family and non-family, guardian and caretaker, mother and chid, senile and juvenile, assigned and inherent guardianship, "potentially abusive" and "shouldn't do it," and unified guardian and divided guardian -- that's a lot of lifting for one paragraph to do. Clever.
 
2012-11-01 05:31:30 AM
Hmmm. There's that old expression "IF Grandma had wheels, she'd be a trolley." Now I know how to dress her up next year. Thanks for the ideas, guys. She'll have a blast. Why are you assuming Grandma doesn't like to play dress-up?
 
2012-11-01 07:52:46 AM

morgantx: will admit, I took my 4-month-old dressed as a snowman tonight. But in my defense, I also took my 11YO (his last year trick-or-treating)


Vandalism time!
 
2012-11-01 09:03:00 AM
These "activists" are projecting onto these babies more than the parents who dress them up. Is the outfit warm and comfy? Then babby doesn't care if it has bear ears or a piggy tail. Tell you what, you nutters. Why don't you use some of that pent up energy to do something about actual child abuse. You know, something that matters.

Like the PETA nutters all worried about a dog show full of pampered, loved pups when a few blocks over there are unlimited scrawny stray cats and dog fights.
 
2012-11-01 09:06:09 AM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: TheMega: Seriously?~?~? No one else going to point out that people Trick or Treating with 6 month old kids, dressed up as 'whatever' are certainly not giving the candy to the kid?!?
I haven't given out treats for a while now.. not because I am a miser, but because the last time I decorated and bought candy, over half the Trick or Treaters were adults holding little babies.

First I've ever head of this. Maybe a local phenomenon?


It's not about the candy. They can buy a bag of freakin' candy. It's about showing off babby. The world must admire the product of their loins. Halloween is the only dayof the year they can ring your doorbell and hold up babby for your accolades. Without being hotlined, that is.
 
2012-11-01 11:23:01 AM

namegoeshere: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: TheMega: Seriously?~?~? No one else going to point out that people Trick or Treating with 6 month old kids, dressed up as 'whatever' are certainly not giving the candy to the kid?!?
I haven't given out treats for a while now.. not because I am a miser, but because the last time I decorated and bought candy, over half the Trick or Treaters were adults holding little babies.

First I've ever head of this. Maybe a local phenomenon?

It's not about the candy. They can buy a bag of freakin' candy. It's about showing off babby. The world must admire the product of their loins. Halloween is the only dayof the year they can ring your doorbell and hold up babby for your accolades. Without being hotlined, that is.


Your right. I vote we ban Halloween.

/ban
 
2012-11-01 12:58:58 PM
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2012-11-01 01:22:14 PM

queenstacela: Well as someone who dressed her 18 month old as Alice, I'm getting a kick out of this....


Alice from Wonderland? Or Alice from Resident Evil?
 
2012-11-01 01:23:55 PM

LeroyBourne: Which one of you guys dressed your baby up as a strip of bacon?


That would be perfect if it also had a sign saying, "Kiss me I'm Swine Flu!"
 
2012-11-01 01:34:49 PM

FTDA: queenstacela: Well as someone who dressed her 18 month old as Alice, I'm getting a kick out of this....

Alice from Wonderland? Or Alice from Resident Evil?


Like Sam the Butcher bringing Alice the meat.
 
2012-11-01 02:17:14 PM

jamieleighc: TheMega: Seriously?~?~? No one else going to point out that people Trick or Treating with 6 month old kids, dressed up as 'whatever' are certainly not giving the candy to the kid?!?
I haven't given out treats for a while now.. not because I am a miser, but because the last time I decorated and bought candy, over half the Trick or Treaters were adults holding little babies.
I would always get a bag of "shiat" candy and when kids didn't dress up (wore a baseball cap and said they were a baseball player) or parents carrying babies came, they got the cheap $1 a bag junk while the rest of the real Trick or Treaters got name brand goodies... The final year I gave them out, I doubt there were over 10 to 12 real kids - the rest were parents holding babies (and 95% of those were screaming and crying because of the Halloween music/noises, strobe/black lights and decorations).

I took my 4 and a half month old out trick or treating, but only to houses of people that we know. They just wanted to see him in his costume.

Here he is visiting his auntie at work
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That's awesome! What a happy little baby! (no snark, Im a Dad. Kids rock!)
 
2012-11-01 02:27:32 PM

jaylectricity: FTDA: queenstacela: Well as someone who dressed her 18 month old as Alice, I'm getting a kick out of this....

Alice from Wonderland? Or Alice from Resident Evil?

Like Sam the Butcher bringing Alice the meat.


Good catch! I totally skipped over that one!
 
2012-11-01 03:43:49 PM
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Zombie Baby says STFU ninnies.

/also: nomnomnom
 
2012-11-01 08:30:54 PM
Taking this to it's logical conclusion, until they can pick out their own clothes and dress themselves, we shouldn't be putting clothes on them at all. That includes diapers.

And we shouldn't be feeding them, either. The kid may not like the food we picked, so until he can say "Give me a chicken leg and a slice of pie", he gets nothing.

Just set them on the floor and let them do whatever they want.

/parenting made easy.
 
2012-11-01 08:37:52 PM

jaylectricity: jst3p: jaylectricity: Babwa Wawa: If I'm in charge of caring for something to the extent that I have to clean up their fecal matter on a regular basis, I reserve the right dress him/her/it up as whatever the f*ck I want.

I'd hate to be your dog.

I would hate to be any dog.

I dunno, that sounds like sort of a broad assumption. There's got to be a dog on this planet that has a better life than you or I. Somewhere, somehow...you know it's true.


You are CORRECT, sir!

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