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(Some Guy)   The 2013 World Series odds are already out. Take a wild guess who's got better odds of winning it all than the Giants   (sports.bovada.lv) divider line 66
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2012-10-31 02:50:13 PM  
Go Nats!
 
2012-10-31 03:01:52 PM  
THE CUBS!!!!!
 
2012-10-31 03:13:18 PM  
GO MARLIN!
 
2012-10-31 03:32:12 PM  
Obama?
 
2012-10-31 03:39:20 PM  
The Tigers will have VMart back next season. They will be better than this season. The Giants are likely to lose several free agents.
 
2012-10-31 03:48:37 PM  
The Royals at 75-1? I'd throw $100 down on that.
 
2012-10-31 03:53:55 PM  
BoSox above Orioles. Book it. Done.
 
2012-10-31 04:51:43 PM  
If the Nationals hadn't intentionally sabotaged their season, they very well may have won it THIS year. Holy shiat Mike Rizzo is an idiot.

That said, I think the if Angels re-sign Greinke, they will likely go into next season as the prohibitive
favorites, along with the Nats. If the Dodgers get Greinke and/or Shields, they will be tough, too. But they are definitely light on pitching as of right now.

I'm interested to see how my team, the A's, responds next year. They definitely outpeformed their talent level this year, had a lot of luck and bounces go their way, but also had a lot of injuries, too, so I'm hoping that evens it out, a bit. And hey, the Pennington for Chris Young deal was a massive upgrade in talent, too. So for the first time in a long time, I'm excited.
 
2012-10-31 04:56:50 PM  

mitchcumstein1: The Royals at 75-1? I'd throw $100 down on that.


Why do you hate money?
 
2012-10-31 04:58:20 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: If the Nationals hadn't intentionally sabotaged their season, they very well may have won it THIS year. Holy shiat Mike Rizzo is an idiot.

That said, I think the if Angels re-sign Greinke, they will likely go into next season as the prohibitive
favorites, along with the Nats. If the Dodgers get Greinke and/or Shields, they will be tough, too. But they are definitely light on pitching as of right now.

I'm interested to see how my team, the A's, responds next year. They definitely outpeformed their talent level this year, had a lot of luck and bounces go their way, but also had a lot of injuries, too, so I'm hoping that evens it out, a bit. And hey, the Pennington for Chris Young deal was a massive upgrade in talent, too. So for the first time in a long time, I'm excited.


Your ludicrous talking point has been disproven time and again. Strausberg's replacement won his games.
 
2012-10-31 05:02:55 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: mitchcumstein1: The Royals at 75-1? I'd throw $100 down on that.

Why do you hate money?


Eh, it's $100, I'll make a dumber bet this weekend, I'm sure.

But if it hits, which it's not going to, but if it does, that's a nice little payday.
 
2012-10-31 05:04:49 PM  
Your ludicrous talking point has been disproven time and again. Strausberg's replacement won his games.

So there was NO place on that team for perhaps the best pitcher in baseball? Ok, glad to know. Yeah, I'm sure he wouldn't have helped at all.
 
2012-10-31 05:07:16 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: mitchcumstein1: The Royals at 75-1? I'd throw $100 down on that.

Why do you hate money?


Bookmarking this in a nonfappble manner, just in case pigs fly and Drew wins Beerfest.
 
2012-10-31 05:08:36 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: Your ludicrous talking point has been disproven time and again. Strausberg's replacement won his games.

So there was NO place on that team for perhaps the best pitcher in baseball? Ok, glad to know. Yeah, I'm sure he wouldn't have helped at all.


I'm just imagining the butthurt if Strasburg blew out his elbow.
 
2012-10-31 05:11:00 PM  
OtherLittleGuy: I'm just imagining the butthurt if Strasburg blew out his elbow.

And how is thinking about the inside of men's rectum's going for you?
 
2012-10-31 05:16:15 PM  
I thought it would be the Yanqui's followed by the Red Sox, Rangers and Angels and was pleasantly surprised to see the Tigers and 'Nats.
 
2012-10-31 05:25:27 PM  
Can't view at work...can anybody post the odds?
 
2012-10-31 05:30:21 PM  

mitchcumstein1: HaywoodJablonski: mitchcumstein1: The Royals at 75-1? I'd throw $100 down on that.

Why do you hate money?

Eh, it's $100, I'll make a dumber bet this weekend, I'm sure.

But if it hits, which it's not going to, but if it does, that's a nice little payday.


Again, why do you hate money? You can get 33% guaranteed return on your money in one week by betting on Obama right now
 
2012-10-31 05:32:10 PM  

markyp09: Can't view at work...can anybody post the odds?


Odds to win the 2013 World Series
10:00p
Detroit Tigers 15/2
Washington Nationals 17/2
New York Yankees 10/1
San Francisco Giants 10/1
Cincinnati Reds 12/1
Los Angeles Angels 12/1
Texas Rangers 12/1
Los Angeles Dodgers 14/1
Atlanta Braves 16/1
Philadelphia Phillies 16/1
Oakland Athletics 18/1
St. Louis Cardinals 18/1
Boston Red Sox 22/1
Tampa Bay Rays 22/1
Baltimore Orioles 25/1
Milwaukee Brewers 25/1
Chicago White Sox 28/1
Arizona Diamondbacks 30/1
Pittsburgh Pirates 35/1
Toronto Blue Jays 35/1
Miami Marlins 40/1
New York Mets 45/1
Seattle Mariners 50/1
San Diego Padres 66/1
Chicago Cubs 75/1
Cleveland Indians 75/1
Colorado Rockies 75/1
Kansas City Royals 75/1
Minnesota Twins 75/1
Houston Astros 150/1
 
2012-10-31 05:38:10 PM  
The Tigers?
You mean everyone's preseason pick this year to have their division sewn up by late August, yet somehow managed to barely squeak by the White Sox with the worst record among post-season participants? The same Tigers that didn't even bother to show up to the World Series? Those Tigers?

What improvements are the oddsmakers seeing for next year (aside from the announcement that Delmon Young and Valverde won't be re-signed)?
 
2012-10-31 05:40:11 PM  
Ed, that seems fair for the White Sox. Not top tier but still a decent chance.
 
2012-10-31 05:42:36 PM  
The Tigers are keeping Leyland for one more year, therefore they automatically won't win the World Series next season.
 
2012-10-31 05:48:40 PM  
a couple of newsbits..
Royals traded minor leaguer Brandon Sisk to the Angels for Ervin Santana and cash.
Rafael Soriano opts out of his contract with the Yankees.
 
2012-10-31 05:54:56 PM  

ricewater_stool: The Tigers will have VMart back next season. They will be better than this season. The Giants are likely to lose several free agents.


And that means absolutely jack squat.
 
2012-10-31 06:01:42 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: mitchcumstein1: HaywoodJablonski: mitchcumstein1: The Royals at 75-1? I'd throw $100 down on that.

Why do you hate money?

Eh, it's $100, I'll make a dumber bet this weekend, I'm sure.

But if it hits, which it's not going to, but if it does, that's a nice little payday.

Again, why do you hate money? You can get 33% guaranteed return on your money in one week by betting on Obama right now


Because I have to believe that at some point the Royals will win the World Series someday or else it becomes incredibly difficult to be a fan. I put money on them to win it in the every spring.

I NEED THIS, MAN, OKAY???
 
2012-10-31 06:09:06 PM  
Also, I put money on Arsenal to win the Premier League and Champions League, Kansas to win the national championship in basketball, not even I could do it for football, and the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl.

I've pissed a lot of money away on those bets.
 
2012-10-31 06:09:46 PM  
Rumor mill in Detroit has Torii Hunter to the Tigers.
 
2012-10-31 06:28:18 PM  
Rumor mill in Detroit has Torii Hunter to the Tigers.

Awesome news if this were still 2002
 
2012-10-31 06:33:08 PM  

mitchcumstein1: HaywoodJablonski: mitchcumstein1: HaywoodJablonski: mitchcumstein1: The Royals at 75-1? I'd throw $100 down on that.

Why do you hate money?

Eh, it's $100, I'll make a dumber bet this weekend, I'm sure.

But if it hits, which it's not going to, but if it does, that's a nice little payday.

Again, why do you hate money? You can get 33% guaranteed return on your money in one week by betting on Obama right now

Because I have to believe that at some point the Royals will win the World Series someday or else it becomes incredibly difficult to be a fan. I put money on them to win it in the every spring.

I NEED THIS, MAN, OKAY???


$1 bets are equally accepted
 
2012-10-31 06:34:37 PM  

mitchcumstein1: Also, I put money on Arsenal to win the Premier League and Champions League, Kansas to win the national championship in basketball, not even I could do it for football, and the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl.

I've pissed a lot of money away on those bets.


I put money on Arsenal to win the double (Capital One Cup and FA Cup)
 
2012-10-31 06:41:43 PM  
Tigers? Yeah. Nats? Yeah. Yankees? Fark no. Giants? Yeah. Reds? Yeah. Angels? Maybe. Rangers? bwa ha ha ha
 
2012-10-31 06:42:18 PM  
Subby here,

Part of what really pisses me off about this is that if the Tigers had swept, everyone would be saying 'Of course they did. They're the most dominant team in Baseball with the best pitcher and the Triple Crown winner.' But the Giants sweep, and it's a fluke. It's the ball hitting third base. It's Hunter Pence hitting the ball three times with the broken bat.

Giants: the Rodney Dangerfield of the MLB
 
2012-10-31 06:43:26 PM  
meh. odds this early mean nothing.

in other news...

did anyone see this today?

colorlines.com
 
2012-10-31 06:44:24 PM  

Guidette Frankentits: Tigers? Yeah. Nats? Yeah. Yankees? Fark no. Giants? Yeah.* Reds? Yeah. Angels? Maybe. Rangers? bwa ha ha ha




*if they can make the post season

ftfm
 
2012-10-31 06:47:04 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: Rumor mill in Detroit has Torii Hunter to the Tigers.

Awesome news if this were still 2002


[ohsnap.jpg]

/his BA was higher in 2012 than any other year in his career; his OBP was second best by just .001
/still laughed
/out before "BA is a stupid stat".
 
2012-10-31 06:52:05 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: $1 bets are equally accepted


Yeah, but where's the fun in that?

HaywoodJablonski: I put money on Arsenal to win the double (Capital One Cup and FA Cup)


I forgot to put money on the FA Cup this year, I probably still could I guess.
 
2012-10-31 06:54:36 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: Your ludicrous talking point has been disproven time and again. Strausberg's replacement won his games.

So there was NO place on that team for perhaps the best pitcher in baseball? Ok, glad to know. Yeah, I'm sure he wouldn't have helped at all.


Lets say they put Stausburg on the team. How does that make Edwin Jackson and Jordan Zimmermann not suck in their starts?
 
2012-10-31 07:05:52 PM  
Go Banana!
 
2012-10-31 07:21:27 PM  

jackiepaper: meh. odds this early mean nothing.


Mostly this.

The Bestest:
What improvements are the oddsmakers seeing for next year (aside from the announcement that Delmon Young and Valverde won't be re-signed)?


Getting rid of Delmon and Valverde is kind of a big deal. Hopefully VMart is at least decent next year. Assuming they can re-sign Sanchez they'll have a pretty good rotation from the start of the season. They have an actual 2nd baseman now, yes it's Infante, but before they signed him it was Raburn/Santiago/Don Kelly/Anyone else they could find. The assumption is they will pick up an outfielder, probably a pretty pricey one, and possibly a closer.

Other than that, on paper they were pretty good last year, they're better on paper now. People who make odds aren't really looking at intangibles like how the team works together.
 
2012-10-31 07:34:17 PM  
Rex_Banner: Lets say they put Stausburg on the team. How does that make Edwin Jackson and Jordan Zimmermann not suck in their starts?

Because you can potentially have both Strausburg and Gonzalez start 4 times in the series. At the very least, one or both of them might have been available for some relief innings here or there, such as the time when the Nats were busy blowing a 6-0 lead in Game 5. Think one of them might have been helpful there?
 
2012-10-31 07:35:39 PM  

Nehllah: They have an actual 2nd baseman now, yes it's Infante, but before they signed him it was Raburn/Santiago/Don Kelly/Anyone else they could find.


I understand this feeling. A few years ago the Giants had Dave Roberts playing center field and after getting rid of him ANYBODY looked good/better, but in reality getting an actual real life GOOD center fielder, or in the Tigers' case, 2nd baseman, is necessary. At first it will feel good to be able to think "Our second baseman doesn't absolutely stink!" but that feeling becomes less satisfying when you realize "Our second baseman is almost average."
 
2012-10-31 07:45:06 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: Rex_Banner: Lets say they put Stausburg on the team. How does that make Edwin Jackson and Jordan Zimmermann not suck in their starts?

Because you can potentially have both Strausburg and Gonzalez start 4 times in the series. At the very least, one or both of them might have been available for some relief innings here or there, such as the time when the Nats were busy blowing a 6-0 lead in Game 5. Think one of them might have been helpful there?


Alright, let's say they DID keep Stras going. There's NO way they use him in relief, given the arm worries.

Also, Zimmermann was better than Strasburg this year. Stras was the #3.
 
2012-10-31 07:50:56 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: Rex_Banner: Lets say they put Stausburg on the team. How does that make Edwin Jackson and Jordan Zimmermann not suck in their starts?

Because you can potentially have both Strausburg and Gonzalez start 4 times in the series. At the very least, one or both of them might have been available for some relief innings here or there, such as the time when the Nats were busy blowing a 6-0 lead in Game 5. Think one of them might have been helpful there?


In order for this to work, you'd need either:
a) Gio and Strausburg to each start on 3 days rest
or
b) Strausburg to come out of the bullpen in game 5 on 3 days rest

Neither was ever going to happen
 
2012-10-31 07:54:52 PM  
I would think the White Sox should rank higher (they nearly won their division this year), while the Oakland A's, who were somewhat fluky and are likely to lose their closer, should rank lower.
 
2012-10-31 07:56:07 PM  
Alright, let's say they DID keep Stras going. There's NO way they use him in relief, given the arm worries.

Also, Zimmermann was better than Strasburg this year. Stras was the #3.


Fine. Then you're STILL replacing an Edwin freaking Jackson start with a Stephen Strasburg start. Think that might give them a better chance to win?
 
2012-10-31 08:03:52 PM  

mikemoto: I would think the White Sox should rank higher (they nearly won their division this year), while the Oakland A's, who were somewhat fluky and are likely to lose their closer, should rank lower.


"Winning" this year's AL Central is really subjective. The White Sox sucked the second-least in a truly awful division.
 
2012-10-31 08:03:52 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: Alright, let's say they DID keep Stras going. There's NO way they use him in relief, given the arm worries.

Also, Zimmermann was better than Strasburg this year. Stras was the #3.

Fine. Then you're STILL replacing an Edwin freaking Jackson start with a Stephen Strasburg start. Think that might give them a better chance to win?


No you're not, because Jackson was going to start anyway. Detwiler would have gotten bumped from the rotation and he's the one that actually pitched well in his start. Which was the original point: Even if they had Strasburg and he threw 6 IP with 0 ER ( kinda a tall order), they STILL would have lost
 
2012-10-31 08:45:25 PM  

red5ish: Nehllah: They have an actual 2nd baseman now, yes it's Infante, but before they signed him it was Raburn/Santiago/Don Kelly/Anyone else they could find.

I understand this feeling. A few years ago the Giants had Dave Roberts playing center field and after getting rid of him ANYBODY looked good/better, but in reality getting an actual real life GOOD center fielder, or in the Tigers' case, 2nd baseman, is necessary. At first it will feel good to be able to think "Our second baseman doesn't absolutely stink!" but that feeling becomes less satisfying when you realize "Our second baseman is almost average."


You don't need an above average player at every position to win. You just can't have multiple sinkholes without a lot of counter balance.
 
2012-10-31 08:51:26 PM  
Go Rockies!
 
2012-10-31 10:15:58 PM  
Cubs need to be about 300/1 before I'd put some money on that.
 
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