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2012-10-31 03:10:13 PM  
Lanigan & Malone had Romney's debate prepper, Senator Portman, on the phone this morning. When asked why Romney never mentioned Benghazi in the third debate, he said that was Mitt's decision that he would act like an adult compared to Obama's attacks.

I'll just let that speak for itself.
 
2012-10-31 03:16:00 PM  

smitty04: mcwehrle: smitty04: [cdn.breitbart.com image 475x356] 
Over the weekend, Facebook took down a message by the Special Operations Speaks PAC (SOS) which highlighted the fact that Obama denied backup to the forces being overrun in Benghazi.

oh shaddup, the adults are talking.

No sane person should care if some liberals are angry over being accused of putting party over country. The left has had six weeks to seek the truth, and they have done everything possible to demonize anybody demanding answers.


No, "the left" SOLVED THE PROBLEM in 6 weeks by arresting nearly every single person associated with the group responsible for the attack.

But that's ok, the right probably wouldn't recognize an effective response to a terror attack if they saw it. After all, what "the left" can--and did-- do in 6 weeks with a handful of CIA personnel, the right has shown it cannot do, even with 10 years of ground war and the patriot act.
 
2012-10-31 03:16:47 PM  

bullwrinkle: sprawl15: bullwrinkle: sweetmelissa31: [j.wigflip.com image 540x650]

Why did you post that?

Why did you not post that?

The point could have been made without posting a graphic photo such as that.


All photos are graphic.
 
2012-10-31 03:18:36 PM  

Overfiend: HotIgneous Intruder: Overfiend: Carrier may have been a week away, but armed CIA assets were less than 1 hour away.

And if they were (since you're spilling CIA operational details on the internets for everyone to read) apparently less than an hour away was just too far away.
Eh, sunshine?

These details can be found by anyone - I am quite sure I am not "spilling" any new information.

Sounds like we had help within range: "The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours -- enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive."

Link


Did you read your own link? You do understand that you are throwing military personnel under the bus here, right? That's pretty despicable.
 
2012-10-31 03:25:36 PM  

bullwrinkle: The point could have been made without posting a graphic photo such as that.


Why did my post bother you, but the same picture about 2 posts before mine did not?
 
2012-10-31 03:26:59 PM  

sweetmelissa31: bullwrinkle: The point could have been made without posting a graphic photo such as that.

Why did my post bother you, but the same picture about 2 posts before mine did not?


Your colors were more vibrant, like you switched to Tide.
 
2012-10-31 03:27:25 PM  

smitty04: [cdn.breitbart.com image 475x356] 
Over the weekend, Facebook took down a message by the Special Operations Speaks PAC (SOS) which highlighted the fact that Obama denied backup to the forces being overrun in Benghazi.


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/retired-navy-seal-founder-of-anti-oba m a-pac-i-have-to-admit-im-a-birther/

A birther.

Thats who you are quoting.
 
2012-10-31 03:29:22 PM  

sweetmelissa31: bullwrinkle: The point could have been made without posting a graphic photo such as that.

Why did my post bother you, but the same picture about 2 posts before mine did not?


We can make out what looks like a possible nipple in one of the windows. We can't have that!
 
2012-10-31 03:33:36 PM  

GameSprocket: Overfiend: GameSprocket: Overfiend: Sounds like we had help within range: "The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours -- enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive."

To do what?

btw:

Shooting at the annex went on for a quarter of an hour before it stopped as abruptly as it had started. There were no further attacks on the annex

Sounds like there are different reports. The article I quoted (see above) said "The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours".

I know Wikipedia is the most accurate source for news on the internet, but they are sometimes (GASP!!) wrong...

Are you seriously dissing a Wikipedia article after posting a Fox news article as a source? That's ballsy!

Wikipedia isn't always accurate, but it isn't inherently political and it provides citations to back up its claims. If you can come up with a better neutral source, feel free to post it.


How about the Daily Mail (I know its a conservative leaning newspaper)?

Link

Investors Business Daily?

Link

I know Fox News is mentioned numerous times throughout the internet in relation to this story. But if they are the ones who either broke the story or are the only ones reporting on it, its hard to discuss this story without their name coming up.

I do not know what went on in Benghazi that night, but I do know that one thing the Obama administration screwed up was the "PR/disseminating information" portion of the response.
 
2012-10-31 03:37:48 PM  

fsbilly: Corvus: ATTACKS OF US TARGETS UNDER BUSH:

June 14, 2002, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide bomber kills 12 and injures 51.

February 20, 2003, international diplomatic compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Truck bomb kills 17.

February 28, 2003, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Gunmen on motorcycles killed two consulate guards.

July 30, 2004, U.S. embassy in Taskkent, Uzbekistan
Suicide bomber kills two.

December 6, 2004, U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Militants stormed and occupied perimeter wall. Five killed, 10 wounded.

March 2, 2006, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide car bomber killed four, including a U.S. diplomate directly targeted by the assailants.

September 12, 2006, U.S. embassy in Damascus, Syria
Gunmen attacked embassy with grenades, automatic weapons, and a car bomb (though second truck bomb failed to detonate). One killed and 13 wounded.

January 12, 2007, U.S. embassy in Athens, Greece
A rocket-propelled grenade was fired at the embassy building. No one was injured.

July 9, 2008, U.S. consulate in Istanbul, Turkey
Armed men attacked consulate with pistols and shotguns. Three policemen killed.

March 18, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana'a, Yemen
Mortar attack misses embassy, hits nearby girls' school instead.

September 17, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana'a, Yemen
Militants dressed as policemen attacked the embassy with RPGs, rifles, grenades and car bombs. Six Yemeni soldiers and seven civilians were killed. Sixteen more were injured.


But none of these count only when the president is a Democrat does it matter!!

Stop playing politics about US deaths!!!

How 'bout October 23, 1983 in Beirut, Lebanon?


This is a great list. I want to get in on the Bush/Reagan bashing too. Can you please provide us with citations for each of these where assistance was requested before and during the attacks and was directly denied by the SD and WH? Thanks.
 
2012-10-31 03:44:27 PM  

Office Ninja: This is a great list. I want to get in on the Bush/Reagan bashing too. Can you please provide us with citations for each of these where assistance was requested before and during the attacks and was directly denied by the SD and WH? Thanks.


Can you provide a source that shows the whitehouse denying anything?
 
2012-10-31 03:45:21 PM  

queezyweezel: Office Ninja: This is a great list. I want to get in on the Bush/Reagan bashing too. Can you please provide us with citations for each of these where assistance was requested before and during the attacks and was directly denied by the SD and WH? Thanks.

Can you provide a source that shows the whitehouse denying anything?


i'm thinking the source will be available in the next day or two.
 
2012-10-31 03:47:06 PM  

Overfiend: I know Fox News is mentioned numerous times throughout the internet in relation to this story. But if they are the ones who either broke the story or are the only ones reporting on it, its hard to discuss this story without their name coming up.

I do not know what went on in Benghazi that night, but I do know that one thing the Obama administration screwed up was the "PR/disseminating information" portion of the response.


There's a reason Fox News is mentioned in nearly every Benghazi article.

It's because in severalinstances, they are essentially reporting rumor and conjecture as fact without proper confirmation, when nearly every other mainstream media source is prevented from doing so by it's own editorial policy.
 
2012-10-31 03:48:16 PM  

Office Ninja: This is a great list. I want to get in on the Bush/Reagan bashing too. Can you please provide us with citations for each of these where assistance was requested before and during the attacks and was directly denied by the SD and WH? Thanks.


Can you provide us with citations for when the folks in Benghazi asked the Department of State (which is what I'm guessing you mean by "SD") and the White House for assistance and were directly denied?

/That's a trick question, by the way. They didn't ask either of those entities, nor were they denied by either of those entities.
 
2012-10-31 03:50:41 PM  

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: Lanigan & Malone had Romney's debate prepper, Senator Portman, on the phone this morning. When asked why Romney never mentioned Benghazi in the third debate, he said that was Mitt's decision that he would act like an adult compared to Obama's attacks.

I'll just let that speak for itself.


Bullshiat. Not that Portman said it, but that it was what was intended.
 
2012-10-31 03:56:19 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-31 04:02:47 PM  

queezyweezel: Can you explain to me how the SEALs called Obama? Is there like a batphone or something?


The amazing thing is that the "argument" is that they just want the truth to come out on Benghazi, yet everything the Administration says is immediately branded a lie, and anything made up from whole cloth anonymously is considered the truth.

By Jan 22nd, when the impeachment proceedings begin, I fully expect the right-wing narrative about Benghazi to be that Obama and Michelle sodomized each other in the oval office while four foreign service officials died and when the troops asked to go help, Obama emailed them a picture of the Marine sigil covered in his own piss.
 
2012-10-31 04:04:33 PM  

colon_pow: i'm thinking the source will be available in the next day or two.


In other words, you have no source besides a grieving father. Got it.
 
2012-10-31 04:07:10 PM  

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: Lanigan & Malone had Romney's debate prepper, Senator Portman, on the phone this morning.


I'll let that Senator prepper me any time.
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-31 04:08:19 PM  

Jackson Herring: [i.imgur.com image 540x650]


Thank goodness a certain area is blurred out or else that would have been too graphic indeed.
 
2012-10-31 04:13:02 PM  

bullwrinkle: sprawl15: bullwrinkle: sweetmelissa31: [j.wigflip.com image 540x650]

Why did you post that?

Why did you not post that?

The point could have been made without posting a graphic photo such as that.


It's only okay to post graphic photos of 9/11 when you're trying to make a Right Wing point.
 
2012-10-31 04:13:11 PM  
i309.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-31 04:18:15 PM  

sweetmelissa31: Jackson Herring: [i.imgur.com image 540x650]

Thank goodness a certain area is blurred out or else that would have been too graphic indeed.


Well of course, I'm not some sort of fart-loving internet pervert.
 
2012-10-31 04:38:03 PM  

Cinaed: Agneska: Derp.

I think you mean 'Four Americans dead at the hands of Libyan Terrorists'.

Unless, y'know.... Obama isn't Kenyan because he's Libyan.


I think you are all on to something. I learned from Back to the Future that the Libyans have uranium and Doc Brown used it in his time machine. We all know that Obama has a time machine and regularly goes back in time to do bad things thanks to the GOP telling us about the events he ordered as president as far back as the 1970s. Therefore we can only conclude, Obama killed Doc Brown and stole the plans for the Flux Capacitor. Where is your Delorean Obama?!?!? We know the truth now!
 
2012-10-31 04:49:58 PM  
um ya do know the second name for a aircraft carrier is a second base right?
 
2012-10-31 05:01:12 PM  

GameSprocket: It is kind of a stupid point to make. Even if carriers had been in the area, planes would have had to fly all the way across Syria (Libya's path to the sea) in order to attack. And, what would Czechoslovakia think about that?


In 6th grade I spent considerable time memorizing the spelling of Czechoslovakia and now its gone. All of that time wasted.
 
2012-10-31 05:13:23 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Chris Stevens is the new Mary Jo Kopechne. Republicans don't care that he died. They care how he died.


Waiting the rest of his life for help to arrive?
 
2012-10-31 05:23:05 PM  
img805.imageshack.us
 
2012-10-31 05:47:09 PM  
obama's chickens...
are coming home...
to roost.
 
2012-10-31 05:48:42 PM  

colon_pow: obama's chickens...
are coming home...
to roost.


In the white house
until 2016
 
2012-10-31 05:54:05 PM  

colon_pow: obama's chickens...
are coming home...
to roost.


Burma-Shave.
 
2012-10-31 06:15:52 PM  

colon_pow: obama's chickens...
are coming home...
to roost.


Best part?
 
2012-10-31 06:19:48 PM  

colon_pow: obama's chickens...
are coming home...
to roost.


And if there's anyone here who knows his chickens...
 
2012-10-31 06:28:47 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: colon_pow: obama's chickens...
are coming home...
to roost.

And if there's anyone here who knows his chickens...


we're talking about obama's chickens here. try to stay on topic.
 
2012-10-31 07:02:46 PM  

queezyweezel: Tumunga: Over the weekend, Facebook took down a message by the Special Operations Speaks PAC (SOS) which highlighted the fact that Obama denied backup to the forces being overrun in Benghazi.

Can you explain to me how the SEALs called Obama? Is there like a batphone or something?


They were using the same Obama Phone Obama used when Obama pulled the trigger, and laser traced the bullet into his brother Osama's head.
 
2012-10-31 07:22:25 PM  

colon_pow: obama's chickens...
are coming home...
to roost.


It was fun watching you before the foreign policy debate crowing about how it was going to be all about Libya and nothing else and that it would be the end of the Obama campaign. So, did you cry yourself to sleep after the debate when Romney failed to harp on the attack in Libya in any way whatsoever?
 
2012-10-31 07:27:23 PM  

Tumunga: The reason we all know you libbies know what it is, is the fact you keep denying there was one


That's exactly how we know that you have genital warts.
 
2012-10-31 07:28:34 PM  

Tumunga: I counted potatoe FarkLibtards in here.


Ooooooh, now I get it. Have fun!
 
2012-10-31 07:41:00 PM  

Thrag: colon_pow: obama's chickens...
are coming home...
to roost.

It was fun watching you before the foreign policy debate crowing about how it was going to be all about Libya and nothing else and that it would be the end of the Obama campaign. So, did you cry yourself to sleep after the debate when Romney failed to harp on the attack in Libya in any way whatsoever?


you really know how to hurt a guy, mr Thrag

but this ain't over!
 
2012-10-31 07:41:27 PM  

Tumunga: I thought you found out i have genital warts by looking under your tongue.


Hlah Hlah, velly flunny.
 
2012-10-31 07:42:23 PM  

colon_pow: but this ain't over!


graphics8.nytimes.com
 
2012-10-31 10:14:20 PM  
Obama called it an act of terror the very next day. Libyan military and police hunted down and arrested nearly all those responsible in a month and a half. The mistake was constantly relaying all incoming information to the media instead of waiting until everything was sorted and studied and determined.

And yet the right viciously continues to act like this was some kind of enormous conspiracy created by Obama to do... something or other. Every day someone says something new about how Obama did this, Obama didn't do that, Obama left people to die, Obama doesn't care, etc etc. Now we've got someone saying that Obama denied SEALs from running down the road to help, and the source is an anonymous one that FOX acts like it came from God himself. And when presented with the facts and the reality, these same people scream denials and are 100% convinced that this was some nefarious scheme to do... something or other. And no, they've never even tried to explain the why and how it would make any sense.

Add this to their determination to turn America into a misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call, their absolute hatred of everyone having health care, and their constant victim syndrome, and it's like a perfect storm of complete and utter insanity on the right.
 
2012-10-31 10:53:31 PM  
It can't be said enough that in the aftermath of the attack, Libyan citizens marched in support of the USA and Libyan authorities tracked down over 50 of the terrorists. That by itself is a major foreign policy victory for the Middle East.
Air strikes, gunships, drone attacks, or additional boots on the ground, would only have endangered more Americans and led to innocent Libyan casualties, souring our diplomatic relations with the Libyan people, and granting the terrorists a major PR victory.

But some of these yokels seem to think that we had an entire carrier air group ready to extract a single ambassador, no Libyan death toll was too high to save even one American, and we probably should have nuked the city afterwards just to be sure. Then Obama should resign for ruining the soil of his home continent, Sarah Palin is president, and Joe Biden's Trans Am gets replaced with a 1990 Subaru Legacy Turbo with no tape deck and two hubcaps missing.
 
2012-10-31 11:52:07 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Obama called it an act of terror the very next day. Libyan military and police hunted down and arrested nearly all those responsible in a month and a half. The mistake was constantly relaying all incoming information to the media instead of waiting until everything was sorted and studied and determined.

And yet the right viciously continues to act like this was some kind of enormous conspiracy created by Obama to do... something or other. Every day someone says something new about how Obama did this, Obama didn't do that, Obama left people to die, Obama doesn't care, etc etc. Now we've got someone saying that Obama denied SEALs from running down the road to help, and the source is an anonymous one that FOX acts like it came from God himself. And when presented with the facts and the reality, these same people scream denials and are 100% convinced that this was some nefarious scheme to do... something or other. And no, they've never even tried to explain the why and how it would make any sense.

Add this to their determination to turn America into a misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call, their absolute hatred of everyone having health care, and their constant victim syndrome, and it's like a perfect storm of complete and utter insanity on the right.


I'm surprised I haven't heard anyone trying to tie this to the Birth Certificate conspiracy somehow.
 
2012-11-01 12:09:56 AM  

LordJiro: Keizer_Ghidorah: Obama called it an act of terror the very next day. Libyan military and police hunted down and arrested nearly all those responsible in a month and a half. The mistake was constantly relaying all incoming information to the media instead of waiting until everything was sorted and studied and determined.

And yet the right viciously continues to act like this was some kind of enormous conspiracy created by Obama to do... something or other. Every day someone says something new about how Obama did this, Obama didn't do that, Obama left people to die, Obama doesn't care, etc etc. Now we've got someone saying that Obama denied SEALs from running down the road to help, and the source is an anonymous one that FOX acts like it came from God himself. And when presented with the facts and the reality, these same people scream denials and are 100% convinced that this was some nefarious scheme to do... something or other. And no, they've never even tried to explain the why and how it would make any sense.

Add this to their determination to turn America into a misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call, their absolute hatred of everyone having health care, and their constant victim syndrome, and it's like a perfect storm of complete and utter insanity on the right.

I'm surprised I haven't heard anyone trying to tie this to the Birth Certificate conspiracy somehow.


TheDumbBlonde said Obama was also responsible for the BP disaster, so now they're merging everything they can into a Megazord of derp. It's absolutely frightening what these people are doing and saying. They don't give a flying shiat about America anymore, they'd rather see it completely destroyed before they see a Democrat as president again.

And they'll still destroy America if they get in, partly for spite and partly because they're farking nuts.
 
2012-11-01 12:38:24 AM  

Abner Doon: sweetmelissa31: Lurking Fear: Guess what- Bengazi is not the political hot potato your team of retards are making it out to be.

[i194.photobucket.com image 417x288]

Dear President Romney,

My research has found that Benghazi is a political potato.

Love your policy adviser,
Torg

Who the hell is that guy, and why are there so many pictures of him doing random shiat on a computer? Is he from some kind of stock photo site or something? Really curious.


I think his name is Trogg.
 
2012-11-01 12:04:40 PM  
www.bitlogic.com
 
2012-11-01 10:31:03 PM  

Is Benghazi a scandal yet? CBS News thinks so.

[T]he Obama Administration did not convene its top interagency counterterrorism resource: the Counterterrorism Security Group, (CSG) ... Another senior counter terrorism official says a hostage rescue team was alternately asked to get ready and then stand down throughout the night, as officials seemed unable to make up their minds.
 
2012-11-01 11:48:47 PM  

Phinn: Is Benghazi a scandal yet? CBS News thinks so.

[T]he Obama Administration did not convene its top interagency counterterrorism resource: the Counterterrorism Security Group, (CSG) ... Another senior counter terrorism official says a hostage rescue team was alternately asked to get ready and then stand down throughout the night, as officials seemed unable to make up their minds.


Hannity's big thing in his shows right now is "Benghazigate". Now it's gotten to the point where the right thinks Obama planned it all for some nefarious purpose that they're never going to explain or even touch upon, only scream "OBAMA GOT AMERICANS KILLED!! HE IS DEVIL!! VOTE ROMNEY!!".

Amazing how easily they can ignore the 11 embassy attacks under Bush, the thousands of US soldiers killed in Bush's wars, and how they demanded blood for blood after 9/11 and attacked the wrong country.
 
2012-11-02 12:38:16 AM  

GameSprocket: udhq: Agneska: Four dead Americans lie at the feet of the Commander in Chief. I Period.

Fair enough.

Now, which president exactly was it under whom no Americans were killed abroad?

Don't hassle him. He period.


*snert*
 
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