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2012-10-31 05:35:13 PM

ashinmytomatoes: Dwight_Yeast: When I woke up today, I was wondering how so many people died during what really wasn't a horrible storm.

Now I know.

I feel bad for the kids that were inside watching TV when a tree came down on them and the little girl whose dad was an idiot, etc. This wasn't an ordinary Cat 1. Isaac, which came through my part of the country earlier this summer, wasn't an ordinary Cat 1, either. We really need to get better at predicting these things and create a better system for describing their possible impacts. Still, people should heed evacuation orders and stay inside during a storm.

My cousin's husband's parents made it through Sandy. They had one of their cars crushed and a neighbor two blocks from them got killed by a tree and the rest of that neighbor's got put in critical condition by trees falling on their house.


it seems like the only thing people pay attention to is windspeed. but isaac's damage didn't come from a high windspeed, just the fact it moved so slow, we enjoyed its presence for double or triple the amount of time of a normal hurricane.

plus, everyone is a badass when a hurricane is coming. fark that. even small hurricanes can ruin your life. maybe they won't hit everyone as uniformly, but it takes one stroke of bad luck to ruin your day.
 
2012-10-31 05:37:57 PM

WelldeadLink: ArcadianRefugee: Having several tons of wood hovering over my head? Not so much.

You probably do. The weight ratio per square foot of 8-1/2" of cellulose is usually .97 pounds per square foot. That does not include the weight of the wood which is supporting your ceiling and roof.


That would be less "hovering", but yeah, :P .
 
2012-10-31 05:38:13 PM

FTGodWin: Fark Rye For Many Whores: ArcadianRefugee: People who let trees grow near their homes need to do a little geometry and see if it can reach the home if it topples. If so, trim it or get rid of it.

I've never seen a house that didn't have this problem, it's a risk everyone takes. Unless you're in a desert.

At my house during high-wind thunderstorms, at a minimum, we move to the downwind side of the house, so that any nearby trees fall away from the house. If that's not an option, then it's down to the basement.


great plan, except one thing. basements during hurricanes are death traps. in some storms, so are attics, unless you keep an ax up there.
 
2012-10-31 05:46:12 PM
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2012-10-31 05:48:59 PM
Oh look, a lot of people who could have easily prevented their untimely deaths by thinking before they acted. I have sympathy for the families, but not much sympathy for the victims (except for the ones where it wasn't their fault, obviously). Why you feel the need to GO OUTSIDE IN A HURRICANE I will never understand. Guess no one else will, either. Hell, if there's just a storm with lightning going on outside, I won't go outside, nor will I run water. It's just not worth it.
 
2012-10-31 05:53:27 PM
That was some very bad writing about some very stupid people.
 
2012-10-31 06:10:46 PM
Honestly, this is one of the better articles I have read in awhile. The story told of a fearsome terror, the might of nature, and of human stupidity. They also took enough time to do a little research into what happened in each of the deaths. I cannot figure out why anyone would have allowed that piece to be published considering it contained researched facts and was not full of opinion.
 
2012-10-31 06:20:51 PM

pute kisses like a man: it seems like the only thing people pay attention to is windspeed. but isaac's damage didn't come from a high windspeed, just the fact it moved so slow, we enjoyed its presence for double or triple the amount of time of a normal hurricane.


For all the biatching about Irene, that wasn't even the rainiest storm of that month. Highest winds, though.
 
2012-10-31 06:50:07 PM
Her father, Jon Kest, is executive director of New York Communities for Change and a longtime activist who has led the battle to unionize carwashes and supermarkets across the city, as well as being a leader in the battle for paid sick days. His daughter was herself a bit of an activist, and helped organize Stop Horse Abuse, which was aimed at the carriage horses in Central Park.

Well at least they died the way they lived, being farktarded dumbasses.
 
2012-10-31 07:04:59 PM
His daughter was herself a bit of an activist, and helped organize Stop Horse Abuse, which was aimed at the carriage horses in Central Park.


And the Gods of Karma were watching....
 
2012-10-31 07:05:20 PM
It is kind of amusing that people think weather can't kill them. Weather (nature, whatever you want to call it) kills people all the time.

Animals flee fire and floods for a reason.
 
2012-10-31 07:24:51 PM
None of these geniuses thought to rent a motel room inland for a couple of days?
 
2012-10-31 07:25:31 PM

Smelly Pirate Hooker: It is kind of amusing that people think weather can't kill them. Weather (nature, whatever you want to call it) kills people all the time.

Animals flee fire and floods for a reason.


There was a guy, down in Florida, who said that the age of 53 years old he was in good enough physical condition to withstand the wind, rain, and hail of a force-5 hurricane. Now, lemme explain somethin' to ya: It isn't *that* the wind is blowin'. It's *what* the wind is blowin'. If you get hit by a *Volvo*, it don't matter how many sit-ups you did that mornin'.

www.laughstub.com
 
2012-10-31 07:32:00 PM
I so feel bad for the kids though. It's not their fault their parents were dumbasses.

That would suck to get killed because your moron father didn't want to get out of the way of a hurricane.
 
2012-10-31 07:44:05 PM

Max Awesome: I so feel bad for the kids though. It's not their fault their parents were dumbasses.

That would suck to get killed because your moron father didn't want to get out of the way of a hurricane.


I'm pretty sure you wouldn't care, being dead and all.
 
2012-10-31 08:17:04 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Why Would I Read the Article: I'm so glad that the dog survived. Not too broken up about the people.

I've always wondered: if we kept people as pets, would people like you feel differently about them?


Pets like children our often viewed as helpless and dependent on an adult to survive. Child abuse is different than assault and there is child neglect but not adult neglect, until you get to the case of helpless adults. If a toddler had wandered outside during the hurricane and died most of society would point the finger at the parent and ask how that could happen, then gotten out the pitchforks because the parents should be held accountable.

These were educated adults of sound mind who made a choice to go outdoors during a hurricane. Choices have consequences and the consequence of this choice was their death. Most would feel sympathy for the family but less for them, they made a choice. The dog didn't make that choice.

/I also don't feel sympathy for a drunk who gets behind the wheel and dies when they hit a tree or telephone pole.
 
2012-10-31 08:20:20 PM
Yeah, it's dumb as all hell to walk the dog around your neighborhood during a bad storm.

That said, no the dog is not going to be pissing and shiatting in MY house. You do what you want in your filthy place. My dog did NOT want to go out and do his business during Sandy, and I didn't really blame him, but he wasn't going to be doing it inside my house either.

We are lucky enough to have a yard with no trees to let him out in, so I got the rain gear on and went out with him. He would only go if I was standing next to him, keeping an eye on him, which I thought was pretty understandable.

If we didn't have that yard I'd have put his leash on and made him go as close to the house as possible, then straight back inside. None of that wandering around the neighborhood just begging trouble to come find you.
 
2012-10-31 08:48:00 PM

TOWG: I feel sorry for all of those that died but from the article it sure seems like we didn't lose any rocket scientists. Wonder what would happen if they got hit with a real storm?


how was this not a "real storm"?

what is this weird pooh-poohing meme of sandy i see? is it bc it's the northeast?
 
2012-10-31 08:51:40 PM

Hagenhatesyouall: His daughter was herself a bit of an activist, and helped organize Stop Horse Abuse, which was aimed at the carriage horses in Central Park.

And the Gods of Karma were watching....


i don't follow
 
2012-10-31 08:55:19 PM
We always focus on the death tolls of hurricanes and other natural disasters, but I wonder if in some ways they actually save lives. How many people would have died over the last few days had the storm not happened? How many people who stayed safe in their homes would have died in car accidents or other random injuries? I assume that in places like NYC the storm killed more people than normal, but I live in Baltimore, and I heard on the local news this morning that no crimes were reported on Monday night (yes, no crimes in Baltimore!). Only three people died in the entire state of Maryland as a result of the storm, so maybe our area came out ahead. Of course I'm not saying that storms are actually a good thing, but it would be interesting to see the statistics about people dying during storms vs. on normal days.
 
2012-10-31 09:57:35 PM
"Heel it down the drain, Rover."
 
2012-10-31 10:02:06 PM
How many people die in NY on an average day?
 
2012-10-31 10:32:34 PM

debug: She came into contact with one end of the snapped wire.
She caught fire.
A half-dozen or so witnesses watched in utter horror. They said her body burned for about a half-hour before the police and firefighters arrived.


I'm going to guess that it's going to be a closed casket, but you never know...

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 468x311]


/jesus christ...she was a photographer, who had 3 levels of home to shoot pics from the windows. But no, she had to walk out in the lightning and wind, and got fried. Sorry for her family, but that wasn't very smart. And oh, btw, i believe that the pic you posted is a russian cosmonaut that burned up re-entering the atmosphere after speaking with his president, who pretty much told him they skimped on the basic things needed to survive re-entry, because they were in a space race, so he was pretty much farked, and everyone knew it but him before he got shot off into space.. I understand that this poor bastard cursed "Stalin?" all the way to the ground on the radio. Unwilling hero. But i could be wrong.
 
2012-10-31 10:37:54 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Ed Finnerty: It's wood pulp with printing on it that depicts a little bit of what happened 24 hours ago.

...but that's not important right now.


...and don't call me Shirley.
 
2012-10-31 10:59:19 PM
I really hope the dog put up a good fight when I tried to drag it out of the door. I'm sure it was the rocket surgeon in that trio.
 
2012-10-31 11:40:52 PM
In the middle of a hurricane I'd be all like: "yo, dod, poop in the house. It's cool, this one time only"
 
2012-10-31 11:55:11 PM
Floridians might be crazy, but hardly anyone gets killed during the hurricanes, maybe some deaths from driving. They wait til afterward to do dumb things.
 
2012-10-31 11:58:16 PM

M AGRIPPA L F COS TERTIVM SCRIBIT: We always focus on the death tolls of hurricanes and other natural disasters, but I wonder if in some ways they actually save lives. How many people would have died over the last few days had the storm not happened? How many people who stayed safe in their homes would have died in car accidents or other random injuries? I assume that in places like NYC the storm killed more people than normal, but I live in Baltimore, and I heard on the local news this morning that no crimes were reported on Monday night (yes, no crimes in Baltimore!). Only three people died in the entire state of Maryland as a result of the storm, so maybe our area came out ahead. Of course I'm not saying that storms are actually a good thing, but it would be interesting to see the statistics about people dying during storms vs. on normal days.


When life gives you lemons, I see you make gallons of lemonade.
 
2012-11-01 01:04:19 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: debug: She came into contact with one end of the snapped wire.
She caught fire.
A half-dozen or so witnesses watched in utter horror. They said her body burned for about a half-hour before the police and firefighters arrived.


I'm going to guess that it's going to be a closed casket, but you never know...

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 468x311]

/jesus christ...she was a photographer, who had 3 levels of home to shoot pics from the windows. But no, she had to walk out in the lightning and wind, and got fried. Sorry for her family, but that wasn't very smart. And oh, btw, i believe that the pic you posted is a russian cosmonaut that burned up re-entering the atmosphere after speaking with his president, who pretty much told him they skimped on the basic things needed to survive re-entry, because they were in a space race, so he was pretty much farked, and everyone knew it but him before he got shot off into space.. I understand that this poor bastard cursed "Stalin?" all the way to the ground on the radio. Unwilling hero. But i could be wrong.


That's pretty accurate, but her knew before launch that he was never going to make it back alive.
 
2012-11-01 01:13:56 AM

Fano: When life gives you lemons, I see you make gallons of lemonade.


Yeah, but it's Country Time. It's never had anything remotely close to a lemon in it.
 
2012-11-01 03:25:15 AM

Flogirl: I'm just glad the dog survived.


Same here.
 
2012-11-01 04:50:20 AM
all 9 deaths on Staten Island (half the total dead in NYC) came from the evacuation zone.

this isn't like Katrina, as they had the means to leave. heck, you could walk yourself out of the flood zone in most neighborhoods.

farking idiots.
 
2012-11-01 06:05:46 AM

Max Awesome: None of these geniuses thought to rent a motel room inland for a couple of days?


Not to mention the people leaving their cars parked on low ground.

\Thinks about stupid shi'ite he's done.
\\Shudder shudder...
 
2012-11-01 12:00:02 PM
ITT: people who have never done anything remotely ill-advised or risky in their lives, wrapping themselves in warm blankets of just-world comfort.
 
2012-11-01 10:56:23 PM

ashinmytomatoes:
We really need to get better at predicting these things and create a better system for describing their possible impacts. Still, people should heed evacuation orders and stay inside during a storm.



We knew about this storm well in advance of it. We were warned, repeatedly, by meteorologists that it was going to be potentially catastrophic. What we really need is for people to take severe weather warnings more seriously. And if people are told to evacuate, they need to leave, not stay inside.
 
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