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(CBS Sports)   The Lakers got 23 from Gasol, 19 from Howard, and 22 from Kobe...and lost by 8 at home to a Dirk-less Mavs team that may struggle to win 40 games. But it's cool, still the best team ever, 70 wins still in play, go Lakers   (cbssports.com) divider line 92
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2012-10-31 09:10:51 AM
Ha Ha
 
2012-10-31 09:13:17 AM
Lakers suck a dick
 
2012-10-31 09:13:57 AM
Eh. One game.

The 23 from Gasol should be a bright spot for Lakers fans. Bench may be an issue.

I was impressed with the Mavs though.
 
2012-10-31 09:15:21 AM
Shoot 13 more free
throws than foes. Make 2 fewer.
The 2012 LA Lakers.
 
2012-10-31 09:16:26 AM

Gunny Highway: The 23 from Gasol should be a bright spot for Lakers fans.


Gasol led the team in points, rebounds, and assists. And made as many FTs as the rest of the team combined.
 
2012-10-31 09:16:35 AM
Umm. it's the first game of the season.


/go Mavs.
 
j4x
2012-10-31 09:18:24 AM
Meanwhile in the East.....
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-31 09:21:28 AM
The Lakers' undefeated season hits an early roadblock.
 
2012-10-31 09:22:54 AM
Lakers will go through some growing pains, like other teams have done when adding talent of this caliber in recent years. They only need to make the playoffs to be competitive, and they will be. Regardless, I'm more intrigued by the Clippers anyways. Added some great veteran talent(with some good playoff experience) to round out a young roster, which is something that the Thunder should have done.
 
2012-10-31 09:29:43 AM

Gunny Highway: Bench may be an issue.


Metta getting 36 minutes tells you pretty much all you need to know about the Lakers bench I think.
 
2012-10-31 09:30:39 AM

IAmRight: Gunny Highway: The 23 from Gasol should be a bright spot for Lakers fans.

Gasol led the team in points, rebounds, and assists. And made as many FTs as the rest of the team combined.


I was disappointed in Nash's performance. He should have 10 assists a night easy. I guess we need to see how what the offensive scheme is going to become.
 
2012-10-31 09:36:09 AM

Gunny Highway: I was disappointed in Nash's performance. He should have 10 assists a night easy.


That's not the offense they run, though. For the first half, he barely seemed to have the ball. Hell, the first possession he gave it up to MWP at the top of the arc and the play was apparently to let MWP run the whole possession.

So the Lakers, while having a lot of talent, have to overcome chemistry issues, age issues, potential injuries, and Mike Brown.
 
2012-10-31 09:38:03 AM
I'm sure the espn highlight reel is 100% lakers, despite the loss
 
2012-10-31 09:38:11 AM

IAmRight: Gunny Highway: I was disappointed in Nash's performance. He should have 10 assists a night easy.

That's not the offense they run, though. For the first half, he barely seemed to have the ball. Hell, the first possession he gave it up to MWP at the top of the arc and the play was apparently to let MWP run the whole possession.

So the Lakers, while having a lot of talent, have to overcome chemistry issues, age issues, potential injuries, and Mike Brown.


I assume they will figure it out.

Amazing quote from Nets owner:

In addition to being perhaps the most ambitious, Mikhail Prokhorov is the funniest NBA team owner in the League, by far. The big Russian quickly figured out how to deal with American media types and has become an unstoppable quote machine. Check out this Q&A with the NY Post for the latest from Prok: Q: Which actor would you want to play you in the movie about your life and why? A: 'Chris Rock or Danny DeVito. For obvious physical resemblance.' Q: Why are women so hard to figure out? A: 'Who's trying to figure them out? I think we just need to love them.' Q: Describe your ideal mate. A: 'Beautiful, smart, sexy and makes a mean bowl of borscht.' Q: Is marriage something you would consider some day? [...] A: 'I have said that if the Nets don't win the NBA championship within five years, I will punish myself by getting married. We are in year three. So no one is more interested in winning a championship than yours truly.' [...] Q: When do you expect the Nets to win an NBA championship? A: 'In June.'" 
 
2012-10-31 09:44:33 AM

Gunny Highway: Q: Is marriage something you would consider some day? [...] A: 'I have said that if the Nets don't win the NBA championship within five years, I will punish myself by getting married. We are in year three. So no one is more interested in winning a championship than yours truly.'


BAHAHAHAHA I'm excited by the spending spree next year. I DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE LUXURY TAX I AM REUNITING THE OLYMPIC SQUAD!

/I'd definitely have to get down to Brooklyn to catch some of those games
 
2012-10-31 09:46:18 AM

Gunny Highway: IAmRight: Gunny Highway: The 23 from Gasol should be a bright spot for Lakers fans.

Gasol led the team in points, rebounds, and assists. And made as many FTs as the rest of the team combined.

I was disappointed in Nash's performance. He should have 10 assists a night easy. I guess we need to see how what the offensive scheme is going to become.


Yea, same here. I still expect nice numbers from Nash. By the end of the season his numbers will be around 13 points per game and about 11 assists a game average.

Kobe needs to realize that it is not only up to him to save the Lakers from losing a game. He needs to trust Nash and let him create opportunities for Kobe and the other two stars. This will also help Kobe to be more rested during the season.

Lakers will win a ton of games this year if Kobe only averages about 20 pts a game. Lakers might be better off if no one averages 20 pts a game this season.
 
2012-10-31 09:54:37 AM

jayhawk88: Gunny Highway: Bench may be an issue.

Metta getting 36 minutes tells you pretty much all you need to know about the Lakers bench I think.


Ooooookay then. Not that my favorite team can talk and all, but that's the kind of weak link that sinks seasons in the first round to barely-made-the-playoffs teams.
 
2012-10-31 10:07:29 AM
They should have gotten rid of Metta Whirled Peas.
 
2012-10-31 10:13:14 AM
Oh no! A team lost one of 82 games! SEASON IS OVER!@!

Really Fark, how about we save the saracasm to when they are actually out of the playoffs?

I mean this is petty, even for us.

/not lakers fan
//Go T-Wolves!
 
2012-10-31 10:15:40 AM

pjbreeze: They should have gotten rid of Metta Whirled Peas.


They need someone like him, even if he's crazy. Kobe can't guard fast guys anymore and Nash never could.
 
2012-10-31 10:21:38 AM

you have pee hands: pjbreeze: They should have gotten rid of Metta Whirled Peas.

They need someone like him, even if he's crazy. Kobe can't guard fast guys anymore and Nash never could.


The problem is, MWP can't anymore either.
 
2012-10-31 10:25:58 AM
Dwight Howard = Karl Malone with less balls.

Howard is a coward. A loser. A cancer... He will never win a ring.
 
2012-10-31 10:33:51 AM
They got time to get better, but this Mavs team is pretty athletic and definitely gave them problems.

MWP is a problem, though. That startling lineup with him in there is probably the slowest in the NBA . A team like Denver could run them out of the gym if they aren't careful, and if Miami awaits them in the end, I don't see what the Heat should be worried about; OKC didn't lose because "hurr Harden choked", but because Scotty Brooks* farkin' refused for some dumbass, probably non-existent reason, to go "small" right with the Heat for any significant stretches of time. I don't see the Lakers beating Miami if Gasol and Howard are sharing the floor for almost the entire game.

/*Seriously, can we hold off calling Scott Brooks a "great" coach just yet? Much like Spoelstra, he had three of the top 20 NBA players on his roster; that team should be in the Finals, and in the span of five games didn't make a single, noticeable adjustment anywhere at any time.
 
2012-10-31 10:38:08 AM

Killer Cars: OKC didn't lose because "hurr Harden choked", but because Scotty Brooks* farkin' refused for some dumbass, probably non-existent reason, to go "small" right with the Heat for any significant stretches of time


You think the Thunder would have won if they went small?
 
2012-10-31 10:42:09 AM

Gunny Highway: You think the Thunder would have won if they went small?


Don't know if they would have won or not, but they literally lost 4 games in a row doing the exact same things over and over again.

Kendrick Perkins against a team like the Lakers is a real asset. Perkins against the Heat is utterly useless, because Bosh is not a "banger" that you literally have to root out of the paint to make uncomfortable, and outside of Bosh, there's no one on the Heat that will get significant playing time for Perkins to even play against.
 
2012-10-31 10:45:24 AM

Killer Cars: because Scotty Brooks* farkin' refused for some dumbass, probably non-existent reason, to go "small" right with the Heat for any significant stretches of time.


So, against a team where Chris Bosh is the only worthy big and LeBron is forced to play the 3, 4, and defend the 5 from time to time....you think Scott Brooks was WRONG to avoid going small? What color is the sky in your world? Is it sunny there?
 
2012-10-31 10:45:45 AM
I thought the Mavs were already eliminated from making the playoffs?
 
2012-10-31 10:46:19 AM

Killer Cars: Gunny Highway: You think the Thunder would have won if they went small?

Don't know if they would have won or not, but they literally lost 4 games in a row doing the exact same things over and over again.

Kendrick Perkins against a team like the Lakers is a real asset. Perkins against the Heat is utterly useless, because Bosh is not a "banger" that you literally have to root out of the paint to make uncomfortable, and outside of Bosh, there's no one on the Heat that will get significant playing time for Perkins to even play against.


True. The Heats lack of offensive bigs really hurt them. You should be able to abuse the Heat under the rim (easier said than done) but if you dont have a big man that can score I guess you have to try something else. Good point. Didnt think of it.
 
2012-10-31 10:48:00 AM

Gunny Highway: if you dont have a big man that can score I guess you have to try something else. Good point. Didnt think of it


I don't see how playing in to the Heat's strength is a reasonable strategy to try out, though...
 
2012-10-31 10:51:17 AM

bulldg4life: .you think Scott Brooks was WRONG to avoid going small? What color is the sky in your world? Is it sunny there?


And how much stellar offense in the post will Ibaka and Perk give you to actually put LeBron in foul trouble if he's forced to play either/or?

If your bigs are not offensive dynamos to begin with, they have no effect on the Heat. At least the Lakers have that in Gasol and "sorta" in Howard.
 
2012-10-31 10:53:19 AM

bulldg4life: Gunny Highway: if you dont have a big man that can score I guess you have to try something else. Good point. Didnt think of it

I don't see how playing in to the Heat's strength is a reasonable strategy to try out, though...


Yeah, I think it is a tough problem that probably didnt have a solution considering the Thunders line up. That is why they got whacked, I guess.
 
2012-10-31 10:56:18 AM

bulldg4life: I don't see how playing in to the Heat's strength is a reasonable strategy to try out, though...


They put themselves in an early hole every game with Ibaka and Perkins on the floor together then tried to claw their way back out of it. If anyone could go small with Miami it's OKC. It's not a sure thing, but what they were doing wasn't working and they kept doing it.
 
2012-10-31 10:57:51 AM

you have pee hands: bulldg4life: I don't see how playing in to the Heat's strength is a reasonable strategy to try out, though...

They put themselves in an early hole every game with Ibaka and Perkins on the floor together then tried to claw their way back out of it. If anyone could go small with Miami it's OKC. It's not a sure thing, but what they were doing wasn't working and they kept doing it.


The pace of those games may have reversed the Earth's rotation. Probably a good thing Perk and Ibaka were out there.
 
2012-10-31 10:59:27 AM

Gunny Highway: bulldg4life: Gunny Highway: if you dont have a big man that can score I guess you have to try something else. Good point. Didnt think of it

I don't see how playing in to the Heat's strength is a reasonable strategy to try out, though...

Yeah, I think it is a tough problem that probably didnt have a solution considering the Thunders line up. That is why they got whacked, I guess.


They didn't try going ultra-big either. I mean, at least try something. As someone rooting for the Heat, I felt like Collison killed in his minutes and probably deserved more. If someone's beating you going small, IMO you have two options - you go small and try to match up evenly, or you go big and try to exploit mismatches, stuff the paint, and rebound the hell out of the ball. But to not really try either?
 
2012-10-31 11:18:27 AM

IAmRight: They didn't try going ultra-big either. I mean, at least try something.


That may have been worth a try against last year's Heat team, but with adding Ray and Rashard Lewis, now there's two extra long-range gunners who will space the floor.

God they're scary.
 
2012-10-31 11:19:36 AM

IAmRight: I felt like Collison killed in his minutes and probably deserved more.


He looked great.

Killer Cars: IAmRight: They didn't try going ultra-big either. I mean, at least try something.

That may have been worth a try against last year's Heat team, but with adding Ray and Rashard Lewis, now there's two extra long-range gunners who will space the floor.

God they're scary.


Lewis is going to be a pain in the ass come playoff time.
 
2012-10-31 11:24:33 AM

IAmRight: Gunny Highway: bulldg4life: Gunny Highway: if you dont have a big man that can score I guess you have to try something else. Good point. Didnt think of it

I don't see how playing in to the Heat's strength is a reasonable strategy to try out, though...

Yeah, I think it is a tough problem that probably didnt have a solution considering the Thunders line up. That is why they got whacked, I guess.

They didn't try going ultra-big either. I mean, at least try something. As someone rooting for the Heat, I felt like Collison killed in his minutes and probably deserved more. If someone's beating you going small, IMO you have two options - you go small and try to match up evenly, or you go big and try to exploit mismatches, stuff the paint, and rebound the hell out of the ball. But to not really try either?


Collison killed in almost all of his minutes during the playoffs (at least compared to Perkins), no matter the opponent. I just don't see why Brooks didn't play him for at least 30 minutes a game. He was able to guard Bosh effectively and efficiently score when necessary against Bosh at the same time. It just didn't make any sense for Perkins to be out there at all (and that goes for all of the playoffs).
 
2012-10-31 11:26:13 AM

Moopy Mac: you have pee hands: pjbreeze: They should have gotten rid of Metta Whirled Peas.

They need someone like him, even if he's crazy. Kobe can't guard fast guys anymore and Nash never could.

The problem is, MWP can't anymore either.


Nobody can throw an elbow like MWP. He crazy.
 
2012-10-31 11:29:22 AM

Killer Cars: That may have been worth a try against last year's Heat team, but with adding Ray and Rashard Lewis, now there's two extra long-range gunners who will space the floor.


Oh yeah, I obviously only meant last year. This year, they did get a lot better. See, the thing about salary caps in all leagues is that, rather than take the most money to play for teams, it makes people more likely to take less money to go to teams that are already good, meaning the rich STILL get richer. They just don't have to pay as much to do it.
 
2012-10-31 11:29:55 AM

hugram: Gunny Highway: IAmRight: Gunny Highway: The 23 from Gasol should be a bright spot for Lakers fans.

Gasol led the team in points, rebounds, and assists. And made as many FTs as the rest of the team combined.

I was disappointed in Nash's performance. He should have 10 assists a night easy. I guess we need to see how what the offensive scheme is going to become.

Yea, same here. I still expect nice numbers from Nash. By the end of the season his numbers will be around 13 points per game and about 11 assists a game average.

Kobe needs to realize that it is not only up to him to save the Lakers from losing a game. He needs to trust Nash and let him create opportunities for Kobe and the other two stars. This will also help Kobe to be more rested during the season.

Lakers will win a ton of games this year if Kobe only averages about 20 pts a game. Lakers might be better off if no one averages 20 pts a game this season.


This all sounds great but one thing will prevent it from happening and that's Kobe's ego
 
2012-10-31 11:37:11 AM

natural316: This all sounds great but one thing will prevent it from happening and that's Kobe's ego


I'm hoping he is aware that he has proven to everyone that he can score a ton of points at will and that this is no longer important to him. I'm hoping that he now focuses on chasing Mike's ring count... and not Mike's career points totals...

He needs to let Nash do his magic and just make himself open to catch and shoot... With this team, he does not need to go 1 against 3 anymore.
 
2012-10-31 11:50:46 AM
A few things;

1. 19 Missed FTs was the difference in the game. 12/31 from the FT line. Expect a lot of FT work from the Lakers.

2. Lets take a look at some of the players on this "weak" Mavs team - Vince Carter, Elton Brand, OJ Mayo, Darren Collison, Shawn Marion, Eddy Curry, Chris Kaman. That's not including Dirk. Who can say with a straight face this isn't a playoff team? No one.

3. Possibly the only team in the NBA that will have more cap issues than the Lakers next year is the Mavs. As usual, Cuban is paying for talent, and for the very short run.

4. Lakers will still be the #1 seed in the West. Deal with it.
 
2012-10-31 11:58:56 AM

justtray: 1. 19 Missed FTs was the difference in the game. 12/31 from the FT line. Expect a lot of FT work from the Lakers.


Howard's good for 5 FT misses a game by himself. 12/31 is awful but they're not going to be a good FT team no matter what everyone else does.
 
2012-10-31 12:07:27 PM

justtray: Lets take a look at some of the players on this "weak" Mavs team - Vince Carter, Elton Brand, OJ Mayo, Darren Collison, Shawn Marion, Eddy Curry, Chris Kaman. That's not including Dirk. Who can say with a straight face this isn't a playoff team? No one.


Yeah, they're a playoff team because over half the league makes the playoffs. They're a first-round-and-out team (they do, after all, have Vince "First Round Playoff Exit" Carter on the team).
 
2012-10-31 12:19:16 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: I'm sure the espn highlight reel is 100% lakers, despite the loss


"Sportscenter, coming to you live from L.A., Los Angeles, California, home of Los Angeles, and we're coming to you live, from L.A., here in Los Angeles, California. This is Sportscenter."

I swear to God I actually heard this when they moved out there.
 
2012-10-31 12:20:08 PM

justtray: Lets take a look at some of the players on this "weak" Mavs team - Vince Carter, Elton Brand, OJ Mayo, Darren Collison, Shawn Marion, Eddy Curry, Chris Kaman. That's not including Dirk. Who can say with a straight face this isn't a playoff team? No one.


Because 8 teams make the playoffs...

That's a barely serviceable 8th seed as long as Vince Carter doesn't explode in to dust and the rest of those guys have above average years (something that is silly to think about)
 
2012-10-31 12:21:32 PM

bulldg4life: That's a barely serviceable 8th seed as long as Vince Carter doesn't explode in to dust


Disagree, that's the only chance they have to get to the second round. Apparently he had a decent game, but in the first half when I was watching, he was taking godawful long 3-pointers with lots of time left in the clock. He's horrible.
 
2012-10-31 12:25:23 PM

justtray: 1. 19 Missed FTs was the difference in the game. 12/31 from the FT line. Expect a lot of FT work from the Lakers.


You have Howard and Hill combine to go 4 for 20, which is about par for the course for those two. The rest of the team was 8 for 11.

justtray: 2. Lets take a look at some of the players on this "weak" Mavs team - Vince Carter, Elton Brand, OJ Mayo, Darren Collison, Shawn Marion, Eddy Curry, Chris Kaman. That's not including Dirk. Who can say with a straight face this isn't a playoff team? No one.


Kaman didn't play, but yes, the headline is pretty dumb if one thinks that Dallas will not win 40 games. There's pretty solid depth at all positions.

Anyways, no clue why Jamison only got 15 minutes while Artest got 36. Those should be flipped.
 
2012-10-31 12:39:15 PM
"I want my accountant from Princeton...not my offense."

- quote of the night from Charles Barkley, of course.

The Lakers will need to change systems. This one completely wastes Nash as nothing more than a spot up shooter. And firing Mike Brown and Eddie Jordan is probably the only way that's going to happen.

My prediction: Phil Jackson will decide he can handle 2 months of regular season or so and a playoff run.
 
2012-10-31 12:54:49 PM
C'mon, with all this talent in the starting 5, they'll win a championship for sure!
 
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