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(ESPN)   Eagles wide receiver DeSean Jackson says Michael Vick is still an elite quarterback. In other news, Webster has changed the definition of "elite" to "mediocre"   ( espn.go.com) divider line
    More: Amusing, Michael Vick, DeSean Jackson, wide receiver, Antonio Pierce, Philadelphia Eagles, Nick Foles, Total QBR, elite quarterbacks  
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2012-10-31 03:12:13 PM  
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SuperJonnyC: I dare you to put any of the "Elite" QB's behind the Eagles O line and see if they are still "Elite" at the end of the season. Seriously the Eagles have the worst O-line in the league and yet its all of Vick's fault... Please, there are many teams that would be begging to have Vick on thier team right now. Give the man some protection and i bet we wouldnt even be having this conversation. Not to mention it is time for Reid to go, between the clock managment and very questionable play calls i think Reid's day's of coaching are very numbered. I think if they bench or trade Vick it would be a huge mistake for the Eagles.


Times Sacked 2012:
1. A. Rodgers - 28
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6. M. Vick - 20


O-Line Rankings from Football Outsiders through Week 7

Pass Protection:
PHI - 20
GB - 30
2012-10-31 03:01:28 PM  
1 vote:
I dare you to put any of the "Elite" QB's behind the Eagles O line and see if they are still "Elite" at the end of the season. Seriously the Eagles have the worst O-line in the league and yet its all of Vick's fault... Please, there are many teams that would be begging to have Vick on thier team right now. Give the man some protection and i bet we wouldnt even be having this conversation. Not to mention it is time for Reid to go, between the clock managment and very questionable play calls i think Reid's day's of coaching are very numbered. I think if they bench or trade Vick it would be a huge mistake for the Eagles.
2012-10-31 02:10:30 PM  
1 vote:
Here is a list of words of Eagles Players and Managment don't know the meaning of. Please feel free to add.

Elite
Dynasty
Salary Cap
Super Bowl Champion
Gold Standard
Defensive Coordinator
Strength and Conditioning Assitant Coach
Do a better job
Put players in a better position
Time management
Game plan
Cover Corner
Saftey
QB Pressure
2012-10-31 12:14:18 PM  
1 vote:
Also, wow my list is probably the most unintentionally racist thing I've done in a while.
2012-10-31 12:12:58 PM  
1 vote:

roc6783: This Looks Fun: IAmRight: This Looks Fun: ***snip***

That's a good way to look at it too. How would you slot them using your system?


Off the top of my head with no data in front of me:

Elite (You don't want to play these guys in the playoffs.)
Brady
Brees
Rodgers
P. Manning
E. Manning

Winners (These guys can be trusted with the ball when the game is on the line.)
Ryan
Schaub
Roethlisberger

Strong Managers/System QBs (If they played in Kansas City they would lose every game.)
Smith
Stafford
Flacco
Dalton
Hasselbeck
Palmer

Underperforming (They have the skills to get better, just need support. This is a transitional category.)
Weeden
Bradford
Fitzpatrick
Locker
Luck

Wildcard Players (Exciting to watch, but unpredictable.)
Vick
Newton
Wilson
RG3
Freeman

Liabilities (More likely to be the reason a team loses than wins.)
Cassel
Sanchez
Ponder
Kolb/Skelton
Tannehill
Yabba Gabba Doo

Game Outcome Deciders (Win or lose, it's in his hands.)
Rivers
Romo
Cutler

Also, I agree with IAmRight; there are several you could put in more than one group, but it really defaults to the highest setting. Like saying a guy who's 6'6" is "at least 6 feet." It's true, but he's also "at least 6'4", so move him up when it makes sense to.
2012-10-31 11:30:34 AM  
1 vote:
Romo is the Patrick Ewing of the NFL. Good, even great numbers year after year, decent enough team to get to the playoffs and maybe even a post-season win here or there with impressive QB performances from time to time. But when the game (no, the season) is on the line, it ain't gonna happen.
2012-10-31 10:32:07 AM  
1 vote:

farbekrieg: what is he going to say, vick at least gives the team an option to win games, you put foles out there and you are telling the vets the season is over.

philly has what, the 3rd easiest schedule from here on out?


Vick has 22 interceptions and 19 fumbles (ok, he recovered some of them) in his last 20 games. How is that giving the team the chance to win games? He's terrible. The Eagles have a decent defense, though they might have farked that up by firing the coordinator mid season. They have a good running back who gets more touches than most of the Philly faithful think. But they do not have a quarterback who gives them a chance to win games against good teams. They'll rally to 8-8 and Reid will get fired. Whatever.
2012-10-31 10:28:59 AM  
1 vote:
Well duh. What teammate is going to publically say that his QB sucks?

/Vick is sucking
//O Line is worse
 
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