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(Help Homeless Animals)   Jamie has Autism. We were told that he wasn't capable of doing things 'normal' kids do. At 17, he's a straight A student, and working on his Eagle Scout rank. He'd like to help the Homeless Animals Rescue Team. Can you help Jamie reach his goal?   (hart90.org) divider line 78
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2012-10-31 09:01:15 AM
Your son's story is incredibly touching, and you seem like Father of the Farking Year right now. Good on you for supporting your son, telling him there are no limits to what he can achieve, and standing behind him while he works towards his goals.

I got a little misty looking at those photos, it's obvious that he has a passion for animals and it's awesome that you are fueling that by giving him avenues through which to channel that passion. I'll be happy to donate, and hope he reaches his goal.
 
2012-10-31 09:05:11 AM
Don't much care for the BSA but as you've said repeatedly, this is about HART and your son.

Kudos to you both - chipped in via PayPal - easiest decision I've made all week.
 
2012-10-31 09:31:19 AM
Normal kids don't do all that shiat.
 
2012-10-31 01:27:52 PM

herrDrFarkenstein: Another Government Employee: Captain_Ballbeard: There are homeless animals called homo sapiens who need help.

Hey, find a worthy Eagle candidate and pitch the idea. Nothing wrong with it.

Can't. The Boy Scouts of America is a Homo-phobic organization.


Oh for farksakes. Lighten the fark up. Does not necessarily follow that OP and his awesome kid agree with it. Why don't you ask him what he thinks about the policy directly instead of assuming? Because it's much easier for you to sit around and biatch on your keyboard.
 
2012-10-31 01:30:20 PM

kokomo61: seventypercent: kokomo61: If you donate, thank you very much - make sure that you tag the donation as 'Jamie Eagle Project', so we can see how much of a difference FARK can make....

I'd be glad to help. If I donate via PayPal, how do I tag the donation? Add instructions for HART?

When you follow the link, after you sign into PayPal, you can click on "instructions for HART". That's where you would put "Jamie Eagle Project" in there. Thanks for your support!


Will do during my lunch. Cool kid and good cause. This is the stuff Fark should be getting behind instead of mega-stupid crap like GJTB.
 
2012-10-31 05:07:54 PM

InspectorZero: herrDrFarkenstein: Another Government Employee: Captain_Ballbeard: There are homeless animals called homo sapiens who need help.

Hey, find a worthy Eagle candidate and pitch the idea. Nothing wrong with it.

Can't. The Boy Scouts of America is a Homo-phobic organization.

Oh for farksakes. Lighten the fark up. Does not necessarily follow that OP and his awesome kid agree with it. Why don't you ask him what he thinks about the policy directly instead of assuming? Because it's much easier for you to sit around and biatch on your keyboard.


This
 
2012-10-31 07:47:20 PM
To those who are considering NOT helping strictly because of the BSA, let me tell you that as an Eagle Scout and active leader, the BSA's controversial policies are not always held in high regard by the units or local councils.

Please don't punish someone for the policies held by the governing body. At its core, the BSA does A LOT more good than harm and I am very happy to hear that the determination of this Scout is paying off.
 
2012-10-31 07:47:57 PM

InspectorZero: kokomo61: seventypercent: kokomo61: If you donate, thank you very much - make sure that you tag the donation as 'Jamie Eagle Project', so we can see how much of a difference FARK can make....

I'd be glad to help. If I donate via PayPal, how do I tag the donation? Add instructions for HART?

When you follow the link, after you sign into PayPal, you can click on "instructions for HART". That's where you would put "Jamie Eagle Project" in there. Thanks for your support!

Will do during my lunch. Cool kid and good cause. This is the stuff Fark should be getting behind instead of mega-stupid crap like GJTB.


Yeah, mega stupid crap that is also giving to 4 charities. Or did you not get the memo?
 
2012-10-31 08:04:58 PM
Yeah, mega stupid crap that is also giving to 4 charities. Or did you not get the memo?

Got the memo, the cause is noble, too, etc. It's great that they're raising funds for four charities. When people donate, there's a deserving cause on the other side. Politics and the fun factor of making an Onion article come true aside, I happen to think that Jamie's cause is just as deserving (although I might be a bit biased).

Thanks to all so far for your support. Re-posting the donation links to keep the momentum going....

Paypal link - under "Instructions for HART", please write "Jamie Eagle Project"

Just Give link - under "Dedicate My Donation", put "Jamie Eagle Project" in the 'name' field.

Thanks again. It's appreciated.
 
2012-10-31 08:27:44 PM

kokomo61: Yeah, mega stupid crap that is also giving to 4 charities. Or did you not get the memo?

Got the memo, the cause is noble, too, etc. It's great that they're raising funds for four charities. When people donate, there's a deserving cause on the other side. Politics and the fun factor of making an Onion article come true aside, I happen to think that Jamie's cause is just as deserving (although I might be a bit biased).

Thanks to all so far for your support. Re-posting the donation links to keep the momentum going....

Paypal link - under "Instructions for HART", please write "Jamie Eagle Project"

Just Give link - under "Dedicate My Donation", put "Jamie Eagle Project" in the 'name' field.

Thanks again. It's appreciated.


Exactly, as I posted above. I am a leader in the Scouts who is trying to ward off the haters because of their disdain for the BSA. I wonder if they considered who this is going to help more - 1 more Eagle to add to the ranks of BSA for them to promote or the awesome sense of achievement that Jamie will feel once he has attained the rank.
 
2012-10-31 08:43:49 PM

coeyagi:

Exactly, as I posted above. I am a leader in the Scouts who is trying to ward off the haters because of their disdain for the BSA. I wonder if they considered who this is going to help more - 1 more Eagle to add to the ranks of BSA for them to promote or the awesome sense of achievement that Jamie will feel once he has attained the rank.

 

I'd go one step further - how many strays can we help by keeping them fed, sheltered, cared for and healthy until they can become part of a permanent home?

This is a fun thing for Jamie, and he's getting a benefit from helping out....attaining the Eagle rank will be an accomplishment, but the goal is the same. Let's help the dogs and cats. The other stuff is cool, but it's secondary to helping animals who need a home as we're moving towards winter.

(again, thanks to all who are helping - here are some of the new 'arrivals' at HART:)

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2012-10-31 10:28:16 PM

InspectorZero: herrDrFarkenstein: Another Government Employee: Captain_Ballbeard: There are homeless animals called homo sapiens who need help.

Hey, find a worthy Eagle candidate and pitch the idea. Nothing wrong with it.

Can't. The Boy Scouts of America is a Homo-phobic organization.

Oh for farksakes. Lighten the fark up. Does not necessarily follow that OP and his awesome kid agree with it. Why don't you ask him what he thinks about the policy directly instead of assuming? Because it's much easier for you to sit around and biatch on your keyboard.


Pretty sure that was a joke.
 
2012-10-31 10:48:33 PM

coeyagi: Yeah, mega stupid crap that is also giving to 4 charities. Or did you not get the memo?


Two of the four charities are not something I would give to solely based on their 990s and programs.
 
2012-11-01 01:58:02 AM

feckingmorons: coeyagi: Yeah, mega stupid crap that is also giving to 4 charities. Or did you not get the memo?

Two of the four charities are not something I would give to solely based on their 990s and programs.


Then give directly to the other 2 and stop whining. Stop being part of the problem and be part of the solution. Do you purposely seek out charities you don't want to support and pecker slap them too? I am not a huge fan of churches and organized religion but I don't get all pissy at their charity work (I do chastise the suckers who are have "Hell" hanging over them unless they do "Christian works", but that's a different story).
 
2012-11-01 04:22:45 AM
i'm an animal lover and a fan of the BSA. you feel you have to apologize to people you don't know because they may be offended by the BSA? i feel sorry for you. i've written this in some 10 threads: parents and guardians of gay-lesbian-bisexual-whatever your orientation may be can feel free to start their own scouting organization. i'm an idiot and i realized this. so evidently there is not enough folks that really give a darn about their non-heterosexual children going camping and learning skills. they just want to biatch and moan about the Boy Scouts of America. when push comes to shove they don't really want to get involved and spend time volunteering. for them it's not all about the kids. it's all about adults who have to play the victim.

your son is in the Scouts and you can't stand up for that, i feel sorry for you. i wonder if you're the same way when you're around the campfire or at a BSA meeting.
 
2012-11-01 06:44:19 AM

KrispyKritter:
your son is in the Scouts and you can't stand up for that, i feel sorry for you. i wonder if you're the same way when you're around the campfire or at a BSA meeting.


I don't think I've apologized for being involved in Scouting at all - I just said that I have mixed feelings about some of their political stances. Scouting has been very beneficial for Jamie, and he's been able to grow tremendously through their programs. I've been a volunteer since day 1 (11 years running), and I've coordinated food drives, camping trips, training programs and I manage the tour permit process for the troop, keeping track of drivers, insurance and car information and making sure that all adults on trips have been through Youth Protection training. So, I'm also heavily involved in Scouting, but I can acknowledge that while the organization isn't perfect, it still does a tremendous amount of good.

Knowing that there is some anti-Scouting sentiment on FARK, I want to let people know that this effort supports HART, not BSA, and that they can participate in helping homeless animals without having to sign up for a BSA mailing list.

Also, by posting this on FARK, I knew I'd be taking a few hits for supporting BSA, posting a donation thread, etc. It's worth taking a shot or two to help Jamie and HART. Won't you help, too?

www.hart90.orgwww.hart90.org
 
2012-11-01 07:32:57 AM
How do you become a scout master and how far back do the background checks go?
 
2012-11-01 09:10:09 AM

spentmiles: How do you become a scout master and how far back do the background checks go?



Again, this thread is about helping support HART - if you want information on Scouts, best to go to the source:
 
2012-11-01 09:15:10 AM

kokomo61: spentmiles: How do you become a scout master and how far back do the background checks go?


Again, this thread is about helping support HART - if you want information on Scouts, best to go to the source:


Pre-Taped Call In Show with Ken Doral (youtube)
 
2012-11-01 05:16:35 PM
I was in BSA for many years and I have a non-communicative Autistic nephew that's almost a teenager now. In a bit of a hole right now taking care of two animals that aren't mine, but I can swing a couple bucks to help this young man.

"A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent." That was over thirty years ago, but Uncle_Slacker still remembers it.
 
2012-11-01 06:08:55 PM

coeyagi: feckingmorons: coeyagi: Yeah, mega stupid crap that is also giving to 4 charities. Or did you not get the memo?

Two of the four charities are not something I would give to solely based on their 990s and programs.

Then give directly to the other 2 and stop whining. Stop being part of the problem and be part of the solution. Do you purposely seek out charities you don't want to support and pecker slap them too? I am not a huge fan of churches and organized religion but I don't get all pissy at their charity work (I do chastise the suckers who are have "Hell" hanging over them unless they do "Christian works", but that's a different story).


Someone asked me to help with this and I said I would, they haven't written back.

I made expressed an opinion based only on how they use their money, not on their politics, goals, or advocacy. I reviewed the 990s and program statements and found them not to meet the requirements for a charity I would personally endorse. I never said anyone else should not give to them.

In the intrest of full disclosure I contributed ten dollars to the thing just for entertainment. If it was easy to get the money back I would simply because so many people are annoyed that I (and others) don't think it is the best thing ever.

I also have questions about the appropriateness of collecting for charities without their consent, as well as promoting it as a charitable giving event when in fact none of the donors is directly giving to a 501(c)3 and thus cannot garner any deduction for tax purposes, additionally the lack of transparency on how much of a donor's money actually will get to the charity after indegogo takes their cut (either 4% or 9% but the funding model used is not clearly presented). The GJTB is absolutely not eligible for the discounted 501(c)3 fees.

There are other very worthy charities in the works for Fark including one funded in part by the family of a TF'er who has passed away. To create a poorly planned, politically oriented, absurd fund raising drive under the guise of 'its for charity' makes a mockery of that.

Let me be clear very clear on my opinion as I've also received hate mail about it. I find it poorly planed, poorly executed, misleading and offensive. If anyone takes issue with that, too bad it is my opinion and I don't think it will change.

As you can see I've done the due diligence on HART and found it above reporach. In contrast GJTB is patently offensive.
 
2012-11-01 07:34:17 PM

feckingmorons: coeyagi: feckingmorons: coeyagi: Yeah, mega stupid crap that is also giving to 4 charities. Or did you not get the memo?

Two of the four charities are not something I would give to solely based on their 990s and programs.

Then give directly to the other 2 and stop whining. Stop being part of the problem and be part of the solution. Do you purposely seek out charities you don't want to support and pecker slap them too? I am not a huge fan of churches and organized religion but I don't get all pissy at their charity work (I do chastise the suckers who are have "Hell" hanging over them unless they do "Christian works", but that's a different story).

Someone asked me to help with this and I said I would, they haven't written back.

I made expressed an opinion based only on how they use their money, not on their politics, goals, or advocacy. I reviewed the 990s and program statements and found them not to meet the requirements for a charity I would personally endorse. I never said anyone else should not give to them.

In the intrest of full disclosure I contributed ten dollars to the thing just for entertainment. If it was easy to get the money back I would simply because so many people are annoyed that I (and others) don't think it is the best thing ever.

I also have questions about the appropriateness of collecting for charities without their consent, as well as promoting it as a charitable giving event when in fact none of the donors is directly giving to a 501(c)3 and thus cannot garner any deduction for tax purposes, additionally the lack of transparency on how much of a donor's money actually will get to the charity after indegogo takes their cut (either 4% or 9% but the funding model used is not clearly presented). The GJTB is absolutely not eligible for the discounted 501(c)3 fees.

There are other very worthy charities in the works for Fark including one funded in part by the family of a TF'er who has passed away. To create a poorly planned, poli ...


That's another good point. No one associated with GJTB has disclosed how much is being skimmed off the top by Indiegogo. In fact, several people on Fark who are leading that effort have stated that they do not even control the admin rights to the Indiegogo site. So who is accountable for all that money? And, as you point out, are their proposed charities even aware of the fundraising on their behalf? Could it be that the charities may very well reject the donations because they do not conform to the charities' accounting procedures?
 
2012-11-01 07:40:00 PM
feckingmorons:
I've done the due diligence on HART and found it above reproach.


Thank you. I didn't ask anyone to go that far in research, but when I donate to charities, I try to find out if they're in the helping business or the fundraising business.
 
2012-11-01 09:11:18 PM

kokomo61: feckingmorons:
I've done the due diligence on HART and found it above reproach.

Thank you. I didn't ask anyone to go that far in research, but when I donate to charities, I try to find out if they're in the helping business or the fundraising business.


My expertise is in tax law and I like to give to charity when I can so I always like to check and make sure they are spending donated money wisely. HART certainly is.
 
2012-11-01 11:12:11 PM

KrispyKritter: i'm an animal lover and a fan of the BSA. you feel you have to apologize to people you don't know because they may be offended by the BSA? i feel sorry for you. i've written this in some 10 threads: parents and guardians of gay-lesbian-bisexual-whatever your orientation may be can feel free to start their own scouting organization. i'm an idiot and i realized this. so evidently there is not enough folks that really give a darn about their non-heterosexual children going camping and learning skills. they just want to biatch and moan about the Boy Scouts of America. when push comes to shove they don't really want to get involved and spend time volunteering. for them it's not all about the kids. it's all about adults who have to play the victim.

your son is in the Scouts and you can't stand up for that, i feel sorry for you. i wonder if you're the same way when you're around the campfire or at a BSA meeting.


I feel sorry for you that you approve of discrimination. I used to feel that way too - just start a new organization. But I realize that the BSA will cave eventually and then proponents of discrimination like yourself will be left on the wrong side of history, whining.
 
2012-11-01 11:25:22 PM

coeyagi: KrispyKritter: i'm an animal lover and a fan of the BSA. you feel you have to apologize to people you don't know because they may be offended by the BSA? i feel sorry for you. i've written this in some 10 threads: parents and guardians of gay-lesbian-bisexual-whatever your orientation may be can feel free to start their own scouting organization. i'm an idiot and i realized this. so evidently there is not enough folks that really give a darn about their non-heterosexual children going camping and learning skills. they just want to biatch and moan about the Boy Scouts of America. when push comes to shove they don't really want to get involved and spend time volunteering. for them it's not all about the kids. it's all about adults who have to play the victim.

your son is in the Scouts and you can't stand up for that, i feel sorry for you. i wonder if you're the same way when you're around the campfire or at a BSA meeting.

I feel sorry for you that you approve of discrimination. I used to feel that way too - just start a new organization. But I realize that the BSA will cave eventually and then proponents of discrimination like yourself will be left on the wrong side of history, whining.


No, I wouldn't go that far. I am gay and was a Scout. BSA does good things. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, dude. I don't agree with the BSA's social policies and will object to them to the bitter end, but if I had a son who wanted to join the Scouts, I would certainly not discourage him.
 
2012-11-01 11:49:41 PM

InspectorZero: coeyagi: KrispyKritter: i'm an animal lover and a fan of the BSA. you feel you have to apologize to people you don't know because they may be offended by the BSA? i feel sorry for you. i've written this in some 10 threads: parents and guardians of gay-lesbian-bisexual-whatever your orientation may be can feel free to start their own scouting organization. i'm an idiot and i realized this. so evidently there is not enough folks that really give a darn about their non-heterosexual children going camping and learning skills. they just want to biatch and moan about the Boy Scouts of America. when push comes to shove they don't really want to get involved and spend time volunteering. for them it's not all about the kids. it's all about adults who have to play the victim.

your son is in the Scouts and you can't stand up for that, i feel sorry for you. i wonder if you're the same way when you're around the campfire or at a BSA meeting.

I feel sorry for you that you approve of discrimination. I used to feel that way too - just start a new organization. But I realize that the BSA will cave eventually and then proponents of discrimination like yourself will be left on the wrong side of history, whining.

No, I wouldn't go that far. I am gay and was a Scout. BSA does good things. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, dude. I don't agree with the BSA's social policies and will object to them to the bitter end, but if I had a son who wanted to join the Scouts, I would certainly not discourage him.


You should read my earlier posts. The person who I was responding to was responding to me without quoting me.

I haven't written off the BSA - I am heavily involved.
 
2012-11-02 12:14:27 PM

coeyagi:

I haven't written off the BSA - I am heavily deeply involved.


FTFY
 
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