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(Help Homeless Animals)   Jamie has Autism. We were told that he wasn't capable of doing things 'normal' kids do. At 17, he's a straight A student, and working on his Eagle Scout rank. He'd like to help the Homeless Animals Rescue Team. Can you help Jamie reach his goal?   (hart90.org) divider line 78
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2012-10-30 11:36:47 PM  
My son, Jamie, is 17, and a Life Scout - working towards his Eagle. I know the BSA has had its faults and shortcomings, and many may disagree with their political stance(s), but here's why I'm posting on FARK. I've been on FARK for a while (since 2004), and have a whopping total of SIX (count 'em!) green lights. I can't Photoshop to save my life, and I've never had the chance to attend a FARK party. Still, I check FARK almost every day, and try to make a pithy comment now and then....but this isn't about me, it's about Jamie. My son was born in 1995, and by all accounts was in good health...but by the time he turned 3, we knew he was different than a lot of other kids. He would have sensitivity to any loud or repetitive noises, hated any change in routine, and had a lot of difficulty connecting with other kids.

A lot of tests and doctors later, we got the diagnosis - Jamie had Autism. Today, it may seem like every other kid is on the spectrum, but in 1998, it was a huge blow - we were told that Jamie wouldn't ever go to a normal school, wouldn't advance, wouldn't ride a bike, wouldn't yadda, yadda, yadda.

Well, that future wasn't good enough - Jamie had his issues, but when he wanted to do something, he learned how to do it. His sense of balance was pretty poor.....and it took two solid summers to teach him how to ride a bike. We went through years of having to prepare blander food for him, just because he couldn't tolerate stronger tastes or spices. We worked endlessly on speech therapy, fine and gross motor skills, and put him through more than most kids could ever think of....

.....but here's where he is today - Jamie loves dogs and loves helping them, too.

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As I said before, Jamie is a Scout. He's been in Scouts since being a Tiger, and he's grown tremendously as a result. He read the Pinewood Derby rule books endlessly, and built cars that won every race they ran. He won District 4 years running. The last one he built was a replica of an iPod. When he moved on to Boy Scouts, he took on the Cycling merit badge - now, this was the kid who took two years learning not to fall down....but completed the badge, including the 50-miler at the end. In fact, he's done the Seagull Century (102 miles) the last 3 years. He's learned to drive (and is a better driver than his mother). He is a straight-A student, and a huge Pathfinder fan. As his final hurrah in Scouting, he decided to skip the typical landscape / clean-up projects the other kids do, and wanted to help rescue animals. He's doing a local supply drive for the Homeless Animals Rescue Team (HART), but I also wanted to reach out to FARK to challenge them to help, too. If you'd like to help with Jamie's Eagle project, please consider donating to HART. The donation link is here and in the main post. You can donate via PayPal or JustGive.org. I know there are lots of deserving people and organizations, but if you'd consider donating to HART, Jamie and HART's dogs and cats would very much appreciate it.

If you donate, thank you very much - make sure that you tag the donation as 'Jamie Eagle Project', so we can see how much of a difference FARK can make....


Thanks,

kokomo61
 
2012-10-30 11:39:52 PM  

kokomo61: If you donate, thank you very much - make sure that you tag the donation as 'Jamie Eagle Project', so we can see how much of a difference FARK can make....


I'd be glad to help. If I donate via PayPal, how do I tag the donation? Add instructions for HART?
 
hng
2012-10-30 11:40:38 PM  
It's always the lurkers.
 
2012-10-30 11:45:27 PM  
Is Jamie hiring?

Kudos, he's a great kid.
 
2012-10-30 11:45:47 PM  
I'd donate, but I'm pretty sore about the Scouts misappropriating my name.

Good on him though. He sounds like an awesome kid.
 
2012-10-30 11:53:13 PM  

seventypercent: kokomo61: If you donate, thank you very much - make sure that you tag the donation as 'Jamie Eagle Project', so we can see how much of a difference FARK can make....

I'd be glad to help. If I donate via PayPal, how do I tag the donation? Add instructions for HART?


Yes. Worked for me. Click the Paypal button on HART's page. Enter your donation amount, then log in to Paypal. Then Click on "Add Instructions to HART." Then enter 'Jamie Eagle Project' in the message box, and click Save. You'll get one more chance to review everything before paying.
 
2012-10-30 11:55:24 PM  

seventypercent: kokomo61: If you donate, thank you very much - make sure that you tag the donation as 'Jamie Eagle Project', so we can see how much of a difference FARK can make....

I'd be glad to help. If I donate via PayPal, how do I tag the donation? Add instructions for HART?


When you follow the link, after you sign into PayPal, you can click on "instructions for HART". That's where you would put "Jamie Eagle Project" in there. Thanks for your support!
 
2012-10-30 11:57:07 PM  

kokomo61: When you follow the link, after you sign into PayPal, you can click on "instructions for HART". That's where you would put "Jamie Eagle Project" in there. Thanks for your support!


Done and done. Good luck! It's a good cause, and I hope you get tons of donations when this goes green.
 
2012-10-30 11:57:29 PM  

hng: It's always the lurkers.


It's not for lack of trying - I think I have 200+ posts in the last 15 days, and 78 unapproved links.....I seem to average a green light every other year. :D
 
2012-10-31 12:01:34 AM  

monty666: I'd donate, but I'm pretty sore about the Scouts misappropriating my name.

Good on him though. He sounds like an awesome kid.


I hear you on your concern about the Scouts. I've got very mixed feelings about the organization - it's done some tremendous things for Jamie, but it definitely has its baggage. Fortunately, this drive is not collecting names for BSA - all donations go directly to HART, and none of the donor info is being shared outside of what you choose to share with HART and with the IRS. (donations are 501 c 3 tax deductible). From what I've seen with Jamie, he would be doing this whether he was a Scout or not. He continues to amaze me every day.
 
2012-10-31 12:03:04 AM  
Done!

That is one hell of a son you have there. Good work dad.
 
2012-10-31 12:11:38 AM  
A little CSB about the pics - Jamie loves dogs all over the world. #1 is in Tampa, #2, #5 and #6 are in NYC, #3 and #4 are in DC, and the last one is in Paris. Wherever we go, he's on the lookout for dogs that need attention.
 
2012-10-31 12:12:09 AM  

kokomo61: monty666: I'd donate, but I'm pretty sore about the Scouts misappropriating my name.

Good on him though. He sounds like an awesome kid.

I hear you on your concern about the Scouts. I've got very mixed feelings about the organization - it's done some tremendous things for Jamie, but it definitely has its baggage. Fortunately, this drive is not collecting names for BSA - all donations go directly to HART, and none of the donor info is being shared outside of what you choose to share with HART and with the IRS. (donations are 501 c 3 tax deductible). From what I've seen with Jamie, he would be doing this whether he was a Scout or not. He continues to amaze me every day.


Okay, I'm in. He sounds like a wonderful kid. I don't care about the tax deductible thing, just about chipping in for such a cool young cat.
 
2012-10-31 12:14:54 AM  
How much does he need?
 
2012-10-31 12:18:45 AM  

kokomo61: If you donate, thank you very much - make sure that you tag the donation as 'Jamie Eagle Project', so we can see how much of a difference FARK can make....


Well, dammit, I mindlessly clicked through the paypal payment so the charity gets the money but it wasn't tagged. Chalk the 10 bucks from Hanover, VA to Jamie in the back of your head so he knows.
 
2012-10-31 12:19:22 AM  

feckingmorons: How much does he need?


Oh yeah, I was wondering that myself. What's the goal?
 
2012-10-31 12:32:18 AM  

Lsherm: feckingmorons: How much does he need?

Oh yeah, I was wondering that myself. What's the goal?


As much as we can raise before Thanksgiving. I've contacted HART to see if we can keep track of donations so I can post an update here. We're helping a NFP along with their mission of helping find homes for dogs and cats, and foster strays and give-ups until they can be placed - There have been more noble causes on FARK, but this is the one that Jamie has chosen, and I'm here to help him make it a successful drive.

You know what my real goal is? To beat the "Buy Joe Biden a Trans Am" amount. That would make HART (and Jamie) very happy.
 
2012-10-31 12:36:30 AM  

kokomo61: Lsherm: feckingmorons: How much does he need?

Oh yeah, I was wondering that myself. What's the goal?

As much as we can raise before Thanksgiving. I've contacted HART to see if we can keep track of donations so I can post an update here. We're helping a NFP along with their mission of helping find homes for dogs and cats, and foster strays and give-ups until they can be placed - There have been more noble causes on FARK, but this is the one that Jamie has chosen, and I'm here to help him make it a successful drive.

You know what my real goal is? To beat the "Buy Joe Biden a Trans Am" amount. That would make HART (and Jamie) very happy.


That would make me very happy too.
 
2012-10-31 12:37:37 AM  

kokomo61: Lsherm: feckingmorons: How much does he need?

Oh yeah, I was wondering that myself. What's the goal?

As much as we can raise before Thanksgiving. I've contacted HART to see if we can keep track of donations so I can post an update here. We're helping a NFP along with their mission of helping find homes for dogs and cats, and foster strays and give-ups until they can be placed - There have been more noble causes on FARK, but this is the one that Jamie has chosen, and I'm here to help him make it a successful drive.

You know what my real goal is? To beat the "Buy Joe Biden a Trans Am" amount. That would make HART (and Jamie) very happy.


Fair enough. I contributed another 10 bucks but actually added the "Jamie Eagle Project" in the instructions box for HART. I'll let you know right now most people probably aren't going to go through that extra step, so if there's any way to link this page to something that will specifically credit the fark link, you might want to look into it.
 
2012-10-31 01:02:20 AM  
Here we go:

Homeless Animal Rescue Team, Inc. in Fairfax Station Virginia (EIN 54-1564904) is a no kill animal rescue organization.

They are properly registered with the IRS as a 501(c)3 organization and donations to them are fully deductible in accordance with the tax code.

They have ~150 volunteers and 4 paid staff. The 6 board members receive no compensation.

The organizations financial statements are audited by an independent CPA.

Their primary fund raising events are an art auction and a dog walk from which they raise approximately $40K after reasonable expesnses.

There most recently available 990 shows support (through donations and fund raising events) of $638,992. $659,578 was spent on program expenses with the bulk of the money being spent on Veterinarians ($304,412) and Boarding fees ($181,762). A surplus of approximately $24K remaining at the end of the year which is carried over as cash on hand for the next year (there was cash on hand from the previous year as well in case you're doing the math along with me).

In my opinion the ratio of program expenses to funds raised is excellent. The low rent, salary, and fund raising expenses are remarkable and to be commended.

I can recommend this charity without reservation. I will personally indemnify every contributer from Fark against any misuse of their donation.

I have no affiliation with the organization and make this indemnification after careful review of the publicly available tax returns filed by the organization, their website, and information gathered from various news sources using Factiva.
 
2012-10-31 02:05:38 AM  
I have to tell you -- straight A's, Eagle Scout, and altruistic really are far from 'normal'.


/But in a good way ;-)
 
2012-10-31 04:16:01 AM  

Gig103: I have to tell you -- straight A's, Eagle Scout, and altruistic really are far from 'normal'.


/But in a good way ;-)


Altruistic? I always thought that was one of the goals of scouting.
 
2012-10-31 05:05:22 AM  
There are homeless animals called homo sapiens who need help.
 
2012-10-31 05:07:12 AM  

Captain_Ballbeard: There are homeless animals called homo sapiens who need help.


So go help them and stop pissing in other people's playgrounds.

/I believe 'plonk' is the word kids use nowadays
 
2012-10-31 05:18:20 AM  
 
2012-10-31 05:23:53 AM  
I have empathy for kids like your son, Subby. Hell, I am one of those kids.

Born of a healthy weight and length, doctors informed my parents that because of some unusual characteristics, no development should be expected of me. No hearing, no sight, no movement, nothing beyond crapping myself and laying down for my "life" (if such an existence can even be called such).

26 years later, here I am. I can walk (albeit with a cane), I can see pretty damn well, and I've been told I'm pretty damn smart, too: I scored the highest gifted/talented testing marks for the 2000-2001 school year in the state, plus I graduated college on time with two degrees and managed grad school. What I'm trying to say, Subby, is that no matter what the doctors say, nothing is out of the question.

I can't offer monetary support, but please rest assured that your son is awesome.
 
2012-10-31 05:26:03 AM  

kokomo61: hng: It's always the lurkers.

It's not for lack of trying - I think I have 200+ posts in the last 15 days, and 78 unapproved links.....I seem to average a green light every other year. :D


Have Jamie write them for you.
 
2012-10-31 05:30:22 AM  
Small addendum (and for the love of god I'm not trying to be a bad guy here):

If your son is earning his way to being an Eagle Scout...shouldn't he be the one actually raising the money and not his father on a website? If I'm told correctly, the whole point of the project is for someone to do something on his own for the betterment of someone else, not to enlist parents/relatives/neighbors to do or help in the project.

(I have major problems with parents who build baking soda volcanoes for their kids' science fair projects.)
 
2012-10-31 05:30:30 AM  
Subby, doctors don't know shiat. You have an amazing son.
 
2012-10-31 05:41:45 AM  
I will try and donate tonight but paypal is always a problem from my country. Also seeing that he loves dogs all over the world, if you are ever in Namibia let me know and we could organize something with the local shelter for him.
 
2012-10-31 05:57:50 AM  
More donations? wtf is this? GET A JOB
 
2012-10-31 06:16:04 AM  

maram500: Small addendum (and for the love of god I'm not trying to be a bad guy here):

If your son is earning his way to being an Eagle Scout...shouldn't he be the one actually raising the money and not his father on a website? If I'm told correctly, the whole point of the project is for someone to do something on his own for the betterment of someone else, not to enlist parents/relatives/neighbors to do or help in the project.

(I have major problems with parents who build baking soda volcanoes for their kids' science fair projects.)


Good point - Jamie is doing the major legwork of the project - organizing the Scouts, getting volunteers (it's a lot easier putting something up on FARK than it is getting teenagers to go door-to-door asking for bags of dog food and cat litter). He's coordinating the work of getting the physical supply donations rounded up and transported over to a HART collection location.

Yes, I'm putting this up on FARK to augment the physical supply donations.....but Jamie chose the project, the service organization, and he's running the show. If he said he wanted to do a road clean-up or landscaping project, I'd be out there with him carrying a garbage bag or manning a shovel. I spent two years teaching him how to ride a bike....but last year's century ride, he dropped me like a bad habit. Found out he was 12 miles AHEAD of me. I may get him started, but he's the one getting this to the finish line.
 
2012-10-31 06:22:04 AM  
Thanks for all the response so far - I'm contacting HART to let them know that there may be some unmarked donations.

@maram500 - Thanks for sharing your story - if we had listened to Jamie's first doctors, he'd be so much less than he is today.
 
2012-10-31 06:24:16 AM  
Kindly tell Jamie that, while we (my wife and I) can't afford to donate to HART at this time, we're still doing our part to help animals in need.

Two of our dogs were rescued off the street and two were adopted from the city pound. (And two were raised from pjppies, and one was given to us by a neighbor that didn't want her anymore.)

I've also rescued two small kittens and raised them into healthy, friendly adult cats. We have two more cats that we've adopted (also rescues, but by other people.) I've even raised a baby chick that I found, abandoned by his mama.

Up until a few weeks ago my wife ran the local animal rescue organization's shelter, and I serve on its board of trustees.

We're feeding 4 or 5 stray cats, two of which have become friendly enough to be petted and picked up. We also feed stray dogs (and even dogs with owners if those dogs are neglected and hungry.)

That's why we don't have extra money to donate. :)
 
2012-10-31 06:29:33 AM  
An awesome young man.

Kudos to you and all the other adults that took the extra time with him. I know from experience this is one of the most rewarding things an adult leader can see.

Due to unemployment, I am unable to support this project at this time. But I wish him the very best.
 
2012-10-31 06:31:16 AM  

maram500: Small addendum (and for the love of god I'm not trying to be a bad guy here):

If your son is earning his way to being an Eagle Scout...shouldn't he be the one actually raising the money and not his father on a website? If I'm told correctly, the whole point of the project is for someone to do something on his own for the betterment of someone else, not to enlist parents/relatives/neighbors to do or help in the project.

(I have major problems with parents who build baking soda volcanoes for their kids' science fair projects.)


As long as Jaime appointed the volunteer (Dad) for this part of the project and documents his progress, he's golden.
 
2012-10-31 06:33:11 AM  

Captain_Ballbeard: There are homeless animals called homo sapiens who need help.


Hey, find a worthy Eagle candidate and pitch the idea. Nothing wrong with it.
 
2012-10-31 06:34:45 AM  
Sorry subby, but a straight A student is not a normal kid.
 
2012-10-31 06:38:14 AM  

Another Government Employee: Captain_Ballbeard: There are homeless animals called homo sapiens who need help.

Hey, find a worthy Eagle candidate and pitch the idea. Nothing wrong with it.


Can't. The Boy Scouts of America is a Homo-phobic organization.
 
2012-10-31 06:39:48 AM  

Another Government Employee: Captain_Ballbeard: There are homeless animals called homo sapiens who need help.

Hey, find a worthy Eagle candidate and pitch the idea. Nothing wrong with it.


Absolutely - there are food pantries in lots of cities, and Jamie's spent hours passing out canned goods and hauling stuff out to people's cars as part of his service hours. For four years, he participated in one of the largest Thanksgiving food distribution events in the DC area, feeding over 8,000 families (and Dad got to drive a big truck, too).

Almost any service idea can be turned into an Eagle project. Jamie wanted to do something different, so that's why he's organizing the supply drive for HART. I just happen to be the guy who posts on FARK.
 
2012-10-31 06:44:17 AM  
How many times has his scout master molested him?
 
2012-10-31 06:48:44 AM  

herrDrFarkenstein: Another Government Employee: Captain_Ballbeard: There are homeless animals called homo sapiens who need help.

Hey, find a worthy Eagle candidate and pitch the idea. Nothing wrong with it.

Can't. The Boy Scouts of America is a Homo-phobic organization.


As I said in the OP - I have very mixed feelings about the Scouts' political stances. As Jamie's grown, we've tried to teach him that all organizations have their flaws, and you have to make decisions based on your own moral compass, and not blindly follow someone else's. As a kid who's been a target for bullies at one of his earlier schools, he knows what it's like to have to struggle based on who you are, and is one of the most caring, non-judgmental people you'll meet. Scouting was the one organization that, despite its flaws, was completely open to Jamie, and accepting of his differences. If the US Military can change their view, maybe the Scouts can eventually get there, too. For now, this is the time that Jamie has to make a difference through Scouting, so he's doing what he can.
 
2012-10-31 07:08:33 AM  
....and for all the folks who are conflicted because Jamie is in Scouting......all donations are going to HART, who spends over 95% of all donations directly for animal care. BSA doesn't get a dime, doesn't collect your info, and you don't have to agree with their views to support the project.

This project supports rescue, care and placement of unwanted and stray dogs and cats to find their forever homes. All of Jamie's pets growing up have been rescues - including Daisy, his Boston Terrier. Daisy's former owners gave her up because she was too 'aggressive.' Not since Jamie's been involved - this dog adores him, and has been his constant companion since we rescued her. That's what HART does....and why Jamie's helping them.

Here's some shots of Daisy:

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2012-10-31 07:43:14 AM  
I work with children with autism,and I have a rescue dog, so I am happy to help support Jamie's efforts. I think he has chosen an excellent project and I can see he will go on to do great things.


/Don't like the BSA much, but it's about the kid and the animals. Hope others feel the same.
 
2012-10-31 07:57:55 AM  
I just donated through the PayPal link, but couldn't see anywhere to add instructions for HART, so I sent a followup email saying that the donation is to be credited to Jamie's Eagle project. Hope that works out. (:

I'll also be including HART on my CFC donation list! I don't think there will be any way for him to claim credit for that, but let him know that it's in honor of his work.
 
2012-10-31 08:04:59 AM  

kokomo61: herrDrFarkenstein: Another Government Employee: Captain_Ballbeard: There are homeless animals called homo sapiens who need help.

Hey, find a worthy Eagle candidate and pitch the idea. Nothing wrong with it.

Can't. The Boy Scouts of America is a Homo-phobic organization.

As I said in the OP - I have very mixed feelings about the Scouts' political stances. As Jamie's grown, we've tried to teach him that all organizations have their flaws, and you have to make decisions based on your own moral compass, and not blindly follow someone else's. As a kid who's been a target for bullies at one of his earlier schools, he knows what it's like to have to struggle based on who you are, and is one of the most caring, non-judgmental people you'll meet. Scouting was the one organization that, despite its flaws, was completely open to Jamie, and accepting of his differences. If the US Military can change their view, maybe the Scouts can eventually get there, too. For now, this is the time that Jamie has to make a difference through Scouting, so he's doing what he can.


That's the joke.jpeg
 
2012-10-31 08:09:47 AM  
You need to coach the kid to really play up the poor little special needs achiever angle. Thick Michael J Fox except with a thick neck. Then have him accuse his scoutmaster of wheelbarrowing him until blood drenched his embroidered socks. With the current media fervor, you're looking at an instantaneous pay off.

Now that's a real world Eagle Scout project that can help a kid understand how it all works. Right Jerry?
 
2012-10-31 08:26:53 AM  
Well, I strongly disagree with the Scouts...but your kid seems to be doing it for the right reasons. Plus Holly and Molly, both rescue dogs themselves would be very upset if I didn't chip in a few bucks.

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Good luck!
 
2012-10-31 08:27:13 AM  
Remember when there were very few 'abnormals' and your community found a place for most everyone.

Dumb as a rock, here... pull this plowshare.
Human Calculator, here... work at the bank verifying cashier's drawers against the receipts.
Born no arms, here... carry water from the well to the common house.
Homicidal Maniac, here... quarter up cattle in the slaughter house.
 
2012-10-31 08:41:58 AM  
Count me in, hundo for hundo.
 
2012-10-31 09:01:15 AM  
Your son's story is incredibly touching, and you seem like Father of the Farking Year right now. Good on you for supporting your son, telling him there are no limits to what he can achieve, and standing behind him while he works towards his goals.

I got a little misty looking at those photos, it's obvious that he has a passion for animals and it's awesome that you are fueling that by giving him avenues through which to channel that passion. I'll be happy to donate, and hope he reaches his goal.
 
2012-10-31 09:05:11 AM  
Don't much care for the BSA but as you've said repeatedly, this is about HART and your son.

Kudos to you both - chipped in via PayPal - easiest decision I've made all week.
 
2012-10-31 09:31:19 AM  
Normal kids don't do all that shiat.
 
2012-10-31 01:27:52 PM  

herrDrFarkenstein: Another Government Employee: Captain_Ballbeard: There are homeless animals called homo sapiens who need help.

Hey, find a worthy Eagle candidate and pitch the idea. Nothing wrong with it.

Can't. The Boy Scouts of America is a Homo-phobic organization.


Oh for farksakes. Lighten the fark up. Does not necessarily follow that OP and his awesome kid agree with it. Why don't you ask him what he thinks about the policy directly instead of assuming? Because it's much easier for you to sit around and biatch on your keyboard.
 
2012-10-31 01:30:20 PM  

kokomo61: seventypercent: kokomo61: If you donate, thank you very much - make sure that you tag the donation as 'Jamie Eagle Project', so we can see how much of a difference FARK can make....

I'd be glad to help. If I donate via PayPal, how do I tag the donation? Add instructions for HART?

When you follow the link, after you sign into PayPal, you can click on "instructions for HART". That's where you would put "Jamie Eagle Project" in there. Thanks for your support!


Will do during my lunch. Cool kid and good cause. This is the stuff Fark should be getting behind instead of mega-stupid crap like GJTB.
 
2012-10-31 05:07:54 PM  

InspectorZero: herrDrFarkenstein: Another Government Employee: Captain_Ballbeard: There are homeless animals called homo sapiens who need help.

Hey, find a worthy Eagle candidate and pitch the idea. Nothing wrong with it.

Can't. The Boy Scouts of America is a Homo-phobic organization.

Oh for farksakes. Lighten the fark up. Does not necessarily follow that OP and his awesome kid agree with it. Why don't you ask him what he thinks about the policy directly instead of assuming? Because it's much easier for you to sit around and biatch on your keyboard.


This
 
2012-10-31 07:47:20 PM  
To those who are considering NOT helping strictly because of the BSA, let me tell you that as an Eagle Scout and active leader, the BSA's controversial policies are not always held in high regard by the units or local councils.

Please don't punish someone for the policies held by the governing body. At its core, the BSA does A LOT more good than harm and I am very happy to hear that the determination of this Scout is paying off.
 
2012-10-31 07:47:57 PM  

InspectorZero: kokomo61: seventypercent: kokomo61: If you donate, thank you very much - make sure that you tag the donation as 'Jamie Eagle Project', so we can see how much of a difference FARK can make....

I'd be glad to help. If I donate via PayPal, how do I tag the donation? Add instructions for HART?

When you follow the link, after you sign into PayPal, you can click on "instructions for HART". That's where you would put "Jamie Eagle Project" in there. Thanks for your support!

Will do during my lunch. Cool kid and good cause. This is the stuff Fark should be getting behind instead of mega-stupid crap like GJTB.


Yeah, mega stupid crap that is also giving to 4 charities. Or did you not get the memo?
 
2012-10-31 08:04:58 PM  
Yeah, mega stupid crap that is also giving to 4 charities. Or did you not get the memo?

Got the memo, the cause is noble, too, etc. It's great that they're raising funds for four charities. When people donate, there's a deserving cause on the other side. Politics and the fun factor of making an Onion article come true aside, I happen to think that Jamie's cause is just as deserving (although I might be a bit biased).

Thanks to all so far for your support. Re-posting the donation links to keep the momentum going....

Paypal link - under "Instructions for HART", please write "Jamie Eagle Project"

Just Give link - under "Dedicate My Donation", put "Jamie Eagle Project" in the 'name' field.

Thanks again. It's appreciated.
 
2012-10-31 08:27:44 PM  

kokomo61: Yeah, mega stupid crap that is also giving to 4 charities. Or did you not get the memo?

Got the memo, the cause is noble, too, etc. It's great that they're raising funds for four charities. When people donate, there's a deserving cause on the other side. Politics and the fun factor of making an Onion article come true aside, I happen to think that Jamie's cause is just as deserving (although I might be a bit biased).

Thanks to all so far for your support. Re-posting the donation links to keep the momentum going....

Paypal link - under "Instructions for HART", please write "Jamie Eagle Project"

Just Give link - under "Dedicate My Donation", put "Jamie Eagle Project" in the 'name' field.

Thanks again. It's appreciated.


Exactly, as I posted above. I am a leader in the Scouts who is trying to ward off the haters because of their disdain for the BSA. I wonder if they considered who this is going to help more - 1 more Eagle to add to the ranks of BSA for them to promote or the awesome sense of achievement that Jamie will feel once he has attained the rank.
 
2012-10-31 08:43:49 PM  

coeyagi:

Exactly, as I posted above. I am a leader in the Scouts who is trying to ward off the haters because of their disdain for the BSA. I wonder if they considered who this is going to help more - 1 more Eagle to add to the ranks of BSA for them to promote or the awesome sense of achievement that Jamie will feel once he has attained the rank.

 

I'd go one step further - how many strays can we help by keeping them fed, sheltered, cared for and healthy until they can become part of a permanent home?

This is a fun thing for Jamie, and he's getting a benefit from helping out....attaining the Eagle rank will be an accomplishment, but the goal is the same. Let's help the dogs and cats. The other stuff is cool, but it's secondary to helping animals who need a home as we're moving towards winter.

(again, thanks to all who are helping - here are some of the new 'arrivals' at HART:)

www.hart90.orgwww.hart90.orgwww.hart90.orgwww.hart90.orgwww.hart90.orgwww.hart90.orgwww.hart90.orgwww.hart90.orgwww.hart90.orgwww.hart90.orgwww.hart90.orgwww.hart90.orgwww.hart90.orgwww.hart90.orgwww.hart90.orgwww.hart90.org
 
2012-10-31 10:28:16 PM  

InspectorZero: herrDrFarkenstein: Another Government Employee: Captain_Ballbeard: There are homeless animals called homo sapiens who need help.

Hey, find a worthy Eagle candidate and pitch the idea. Nothing wrong with it.

Can't. The Boy Scouts of America is a Homo-phobic organization.

Oh for farksakes. Lighten the fark up. Does not necessarily follow that OP and his awesome kid agree with it. Why don't you ask him what he thinks about the policy directly instead of assuming? Because it's much easier for you to sit around and biatch on your keyboard.


Pretty sure that was a joke.
 
2012-10-31 10:48:33 PM  

coeyagi: Yeah, mega stupid crap that is also giving to 4 charities. Or did you not get the memo?


Two of the four charities are not something I would give to solely based on their 990s and programs.
 
2012-11-01 01:58:02 AM  

feckingmorons: coeyagi: Yeah, mega stupid crap that is also giving to 4 charities. Or did you not get the memo?

Two of the four charities are not something I would give to solely based on their 990s and programs.


Then give directly to the other 2 and stop whining. Stop being part of the problem and be part of the solution. Do you purposely seek out charities you don't want to support and pecker slap them too? I am not a huge fan of churches and organized religion but I don't get all pissy at their charity work (I do chastise the suckers who are have "Hell" hanging over them unless they do "Christian works", but that's a different story).
 
2012-11-01 04:22:45 AM  
i'm an animal lover and a fan of the BSA. you feel you have to apologize to people you don't know because they may be offended by the BSA? i feel sorry for you. i've written this in some 10 threads: parents and guardians of gay-lesbian-bisexual-whatever your orientation may be can feel free to start their own scouting organization. i'm an idiot and i realized this. so evidently there is not enough folks that really give a darn about their non-heterosexual children going camping and learning skills. they just want to biatch and moan about the Boy Scouts of America. when push comes to shove they don't really want to get involved and spend time volunteering. for them it's not all about the kids. it's all about adults who have to play the victim.

your son is in the Scouts and you can't stand up for that, i feel sorry for you. i wonder if you're the same way when you're around the campfire or at a BSA meeting.
 
2012-11-01 06:44:19 AM  

KrispyKritter:
your son is in the Scouts and you can't stand up for that, i feel sorry for you. i wonder if you're the same way when you're around the campfire or at a BSA meeting.


I don't think I've apologized for being involved in Scouting at all - I just said that I have mixed feelings about some of their political stances. Scouting has been very beneficial for Jamie, and he's been able to grow tremendously through their programs. I've been a volunteer since day 1 (11 years running), and I've coordinated food drives, camping trips, training programs and I manage the tour permit process for the troop, keeping track of drivers, insurance and car information and making sure that all adults on trips have been through Youth Protection training. So, I'm also heavily involved in Scouting, but I can acknowledge that while the organization isn't perfect, it still does a tremendous amount of good.

Knowing that there is some anti-Scouting sentiment on FARK, I want to let people know that this effort supports HART, not BSA, and that they can participate in helping homeless animals without having to sign up for a BSA mailing list.

Also, by posting this on FARK, I knew I'd be taking a few hits for supporting BSA, posting a donation thread, etc. It's worth taking a shot or two to help Jamie and HART. Won't you help, too?

www.hart90.orgwww.hart90.org
 
2012-11-01 07:32:57 AM  
How do you become a scout master and how far back do the background checks go?
 
2012-11-01 09:10:09 AM  

spentmiles: How do you become a scout master and how far back do the background checks go?



Again, this thread is about helping support HART - if you want information on Scouts, best to go to the source:
 
2012-11-01 09:15:10 AM  

kokomo61: spentmiles: How do you become a scout master and how far back do the background checks go?


Again, this thread is about helping support HART - if you want information on Scouts, best to go to the source:


Pre-Taped Call In Show with Ken Doral (youtube)
 
2012-11-01 05:16:35 PM  
I was in BSA for many years and I have a non-communicative Autistic nephew that's almost a teenager now. In a bit of a hole right now taking care of two animals that aren't mine, but I can swing a couple bucks to help this young man.

"A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent." That was over thirty years ago, but Uncle_Slacker still remembers it.
 
2012-11-01 06:08:55 PM  

coeyagi: feckingmorons: coeyagi: Yeah, mega stupid crap that is also giving to 4 charities. Or did you not get the memo?

Two of the four charities are not something I would give to solely based on their 990s and programs.

Then give directly to the other 2 and stop whining. Stop being part of the problem and be part of the solution. Do you purposely seek out charities you don't want to support and pecker slap them too? I am not a huge fan of churches and organized religion but I don't get all pissy at their charity work (I do chastise the suckers who are have "Hell" hanging over them unless they do "Christian works", but that's a different story).


Someone asked me to help with this and I said I would, they haven't written back.

I made expressed an opinion based only on how they use their money, not on their politics, goals, or advocacy. I reviewed the 990s and program statements and found them not to meet the requirements for a charity I would personally endorse. I never said anyone else should not give to them.

In the intrest of full disclosure I contributed ten dollars to the thing just for entertainment. If it was easy to get the money back I would simply because so many people are annoyed that I (and others) don't think it is the best thing ever.

I also have questions about the appropriateness of collecting for charities without their consent, as well as promoting it as a charitable giving event when in fact none of the donors is directly giving to a 501(c)3 and thus cannot garner any deduction for tax purposes, additionally the lack of transparency on how much of a donor's money actually will get to the charity after indegogo takes their cut (either 4% or 9% but the funding model used is not clearly presented). The GJTB is absolutely not eligible for the discounted 501(c)3 fees.

There are other very worthy charities in the works for Fark including one funded in part by the family of a TF'er who has passed away. To create a poorly planned, politically oriented, absurd fund raising drive under the guise of 'its for charity' makes a mockery of that.

Let me be clear very clear on my opinion as I've also received hate mail about it. I find it poorly planed, poorly executed, misleading and offensive. If anyone takes issue with that, too bad it is my opinion and I don't think it will change.

As you can see I've done the due diligence on HART and found it above reporach. In contrast GJTB is patently offensive.
 
2012-11-01 07:34:17 PM  

feckingmorons: coeyagi: feckingmorons: coeyagi: Yeah, mega stupid crap that is also giving to 4 charities. Or did you not get the memo?

Two of the four charities are not something I would give to solely based on their 990s and programs.

Then give directly to the other 2 and stop whining. Stop being part of the problem and be part of the solution. Do you purposely seek out charities you don't want to support and pecker slap them too? I am not a huge fan of churches and organized religion but I don't get all pissy at their charity work (I do chastise the suckers who are have "Hell" hanging over them unless they do "Christian works", but that's a different story).

Someone asked me to help with this and I said I would, they haven't written back.

I made expressed an opinion based only on how they use their money, not on their politics, goals, or advocacy. I reviewed the 990s and program statements and found them not to meet the requirements for a charity I would personally endorse. I never said anyone else should not give to them.

In the intrest of full disclosure I contributed ten dollars to the thing just for entertainment. If it was easy to get the money back I would simply because so many people are annoyed that I (and others) don't think it is the best thing ever.

I also have questions about the appropriateness of collecting for charities without their consent, as well as promoting it as a charitable giving event when in fact none of the donors is directly giving to a 501(c)3 and thus cannot garner any deduction for tax purposes, additionally the lack of transparency on how much of a donor's money actually will get to the charity after indegogo takes their cut (either 4% or 9% but the funding model used is not clearly presented). The GJTB is absolutely not eligible for the discounted 501(c)3 fees.

There are other very worthy charities in the works for Fark including one funded in part by the family of a TF'er who has passed away. To create a poorly planned, poli ...


That's another good point. No one associated with GJTB has disclosed how much is being skimmed off the top by Indiegogo. In fact, several people on Fark who are leading that effort have stated that they do not even control the admin rights to the Indiegogo site. So who is accountable for all that money? And, as you point out, are their proposed charities even aware of the fundraising on their behalf? Could it be that the charities may very well reject the donations because they do not conform to the charities' accounting procedures?
 
2012-11-01 07:40:00 PM  
feckingmorons:
I've done the due diligence on HART and found it above reproach.


Thank you. I didn't ask anyone to go that far in research, but when I donate to charities, I try to find out if they're in the helping business or the fundraising business.
 
2012-11-01 09:11:18 PM  

kokomo61: feckingmorons:
I've done the due diligence on HART and found it above reproach.

Thank you. I didn't ask anyone to go that far in research, but when I donate to charities, I try to find out if they're in the helping business or the fundraising business.


My expertise is in tax law and I like to give to charity when I can so I always like to check and make sure they are spending donated money wisely. HART certainly is.
 
2012-11-01 11:12:11 PM  

KrispyKritter: i'm an animal lover and a fan of the BSA. you feel you have to apologize to people you don't know because they may be offended by the BSA? i feel sorry for you. i've written this in some 10 threads: parents and guardians of gay-lesbian-bisexual-whatever your orientation may be can feel free to start their own scouting organization. i'm an idiot and i realized this. so evidently there is not enough folks that really give a darn about their non-heterosexual children going camping and learning skills. they just want to biatch and moan about the Boy Scouts of America. when push comes to shove they don't really want to get involved and spend time volunteering. for them it's not all about the kids. it's all about adults who have to play the victim.

your son is in the Scouts and you can't stand up for that, i feel sorry for you. i wonder if you're the same way when you're around the campfire or at a BSA meeting.


I feel sorry for you that you approve of discrimination. I used to feel that way too - just start a new organization. But I realize that the BSA will cave eventually and then proponents of discrimination like yourself will be left on the wrong side of history, whining.
 
2012-11-01 11:25:22 PM  

coeyagi: KrispyKritter: i'm an animal lover and a fan of the BSA. you feel you have to apologize to people you don't know because they may be offended by the BSA? i feel sorry for you. i've written this in some 10 threads: parents and guardians of gay-lesbian-bisexual-whatever your orientation may be can feel free to start their own scouting organization. i'm an idiot and i realized this. so evidently there is not enough folks that really give a darn about their non-heterosexual children going camping and learning skills. they just want to biatch and moan about the Boy Scouts of America. when push comes to shove they don't really want to get involved and spend time volunteering. for them it's not all about the kids. it's all about adults who have to play the victim.

your son is in the Scouts and you can't stand up for that, i feel sorry for you. i wonder if you're the same way when you're around the campfire or at a BSA meeting.

I feel sorry for you that you approve of discrimination. I used to feel that way too - just start a new organization. But I realize that the BSA will cave eventually and then proponents of discrimination like yourself will be left on the wrong side of history, whining.


No, I wouldn't go that far. I am gay and was a Scout. BSA does good things. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, dude. I don't agree with the BSA's social policies and will object to them to the bitter end, but if I had a son who wanted to join the Scouts, I would certainly not discourage him.
 
2012-11-01 11:49:41 PM  

InspectorZero: coeyagi: KrispyKritter: i'm an animal lover and a fan of the BSA. you feel you have to apologize to people you don't know because they may be offended by the BSA? i feel sorry for you. i've written this in some 10 threads: parents and guardians of gay-lesbian-bisexual-whatever your orientation may be can feel free to start their own scouting organization. i'm an idiot and i realized this. so evidently there is not enough folks that really give a darn about their non-heterosexual children going camping and learning skills. they just want to biatch and moan about the Boy Scouts of America. when push comes to shove they don't really want to get involved and spend time volunteering. for them it's not all about the kids. it's all about adults who have to play the victim.

your son is in the Scouts and you can't stand up for that, i feel sorry for you. i wonder if you're the same way when you're around the campfire or at a BSA meeting.

I feel sorry for you that you approve of discrimination. I used to feel that way too - just start a new organization. But I realize that the BSA will cave eventually and then proponents of discrimination like yourself will be left on the wrong side of history, whining.

No, I wouldn't go that far. I am gay and was a Scout. BSA does good things. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, dude. I don't agree with the BSA's social policies and will object to them to the bitter end, but if I had a son who wanted to join the Scouts, I would certainly not discourage him.


You should read my earlier posts. The person who I was responding to was responding to me without quoting me.

I haven't written off the BSA - I am heavily involved.
 
2012-11-02 12:14:27 PM  

coeyagi:

I haven't written off the BSA - I am heavily deeply involved.


FTFY
 
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