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(NBC News)   John McCain really took today's "storm relief rally" to heart....by spending his entire speech accusing Obama of a coverup in Libya   (firstread.nbcnews.com) divider line 72
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2012-10-31 06:11:46 AM
6 votes:

mr lawson: There is a problem with that..
"They" had real-time video
"They" had access to a AC-130 gunship that was near by


Are you goddamned serious? You think ordering an AC 130 to bomb the mob (which was by then in the process of trashing the consulate) would have been a sane option? When what little information they had was confused and conflicting?

shiat, man. Lay off the Call of Duty.
2012-10-31 06:06:01 AM
6 votes:
Wow that AC130 could have done a farking super job of making a bad situation about 1000 times worse.
2012-10-31 09:24:26 AM
4 votes:
As for Benghazi, the attackers had more than small arms so a larger security detail there would have only meant more dead Americans.

We can't have small armies operating in foreign lands to protect our diplomats as we wouldn't allow small foreign armies to do the same here. Security is mainly the responsibility of the host country.
2012-10-31 07:36:45 AM
4 votes:
I'm still so confused by all of this. I'm apparently retarded, because I have no clue what the Republicans are going on about. Let me see if I can walk through the series of events and try and understand it.

1) An idiotic YouTube video goes viral and inflames the Muslim world, leading to protests.
2) At around the same time, a group of militants attack a US consulate in Benghazi. The attack was unexpected, the consulate wasn't prepared to repel an attack of that nature, and people died.
3) The Obama administration sees (1) and (2), and makes the mistake of seeing causation in the correlation.
4) After the fog of war clears, they admit their mistake.
5) Republicans complain.

OHHHHH. I get it now. They admitted an honest mistake. Republicans can't do that, and the very thought offends them.
2012-10-31 07:01:29 AM
4 votes:

Alphax: mr lawson: Alphax: You're a damned liar.

What part?

The ambassador was not 'dragged through the streets'. Unless you count being taken to the nearest hospital, just not in time.


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Just going to leave this here.
2012-10-31 06:34:34 AM
4 votes:

mr lawson: those in charge who could have helped, had access to information and resources to help, did nothing?


The problem with this is that you KNOW the current administration is only too happy to use drone strikes etc to take out suspected terrorists. There is not the slightest reluctance to 'pull the trigger' on such occasions. What on earth would lead you to think that if this was actually the situation you describe they would not have immediately done so? Only, it seems, that you wish it to be so.
2012-10-31 05:40:51 AM
4 votes:
4500 die in neocon oil war: Mission Accomplished!

4 die in attack on embassy: POUTRAGE!!!
2012-10-31 05:15:55 AM
4 votes:
~40 Americans dead, the East coast is underwater, millions without power, a sizable chunk of America's largest city is devastated - Not worth talking about.

Four Americans who CHOSE to work in a very unstable part of the world die in an 'act of terror' (which somehow differs from a terrorist attack) - WORSE THAN FIFTY NINE ELEVENS!!11!11 despite the fact that many, if not most, of the people involved in the attack have been caught.

/Remind me how many American embassies and consulates were attacked during previous presidencies?
2012-10-31 02:04:09 AM
4 votes:

Genevieve Marie: GAT_00: Genevieve Marie: Poor John McCain. I remember when he was considered reasonable by most people and well liked by both parties.

I'm not sure what happened to him.

I'm not quite sure why. He fought longer than anyone else to stop MLK Day. He's never been a good guy.

Huh. Something I did not know.

I think it's that his POW story is so horrible and so compelling. You want to root for someone that survived that. Also, I think there's the assumption that someone who's survived something like that has to have a special strength and resilience.

I just.... really don't care for that guy now.


And then the man went to Vietnam and defended the Bush administration's human rights abuses at Gitmo as necessary to keep us safe when asked about it by a Vietnamese international law student. I was in the room when it happened and besides being the most surreal moment of my life, it was disgraceful on his part. Especially because his next stop was a photo op at Hoa Lo prison.

I can't respect a man who defends prisoner abuse in the country that held him prisoner.
2012-10-31 09:18:16 AM
3 votes:

lantawa: It seems obvious that you're missing the big picture regarding Libya.


Sorry to butt in on the love-fest here, but seems to me that the big picture regarding Libya is that they recently elected a secular, pro-American government, and this is also reflected in the widespread counter-protests after the killings in Benghazi -- counter-protests that you would never have seen, by the way, while people like Qaddafi and Mubarak were in power (e.g. after the Danish Muhammad cartoons were published). The government has been having a hard time maintaining order, and terrorist groups have sprung up, but this is a common problem after civil wars and revolutions -- see Iraq post-2003, Afghanistan post-1989, or heck, even the US of A, post-1865. There are definitely still problems with AQIM and recalcitrant former Qaddafi-ites, but the long-run trend in Libya is positive for the US.
2012-10-31 08:05:36 AM
3 votes:

mr lawson: There is a problem with that..
"They" had real-time video
"They" had access to a AC-130 gunship that was near by
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"They" denied multiply requests for help for hours.

A United States Ambassador was murdered.

The real question is....who were "They"?

White house?
DoD?
Sec of State?
CIA?

who the fark dropped the ball on this attack? And why?

/my bet...cia


Did you even read your own link? The attack started at 4 PM. The building was secured at 5:20 PM. There was a second attack at 6 PM. The building was again secured at 8:30 PM.

What did you expect anyone in America to do in either of those intervals? Fire on the consulate while our own people are still inside??
2012-10-31 07:04:05 AM
3 votes:
How in the world is Romney tied with Obama?

This man has ran a farce of a campaign. He's not likable or trustworthy.

And yet,here we are. A true testament to the power of money and propaganda.
2012-10-31 06:34:03 AM
3 votes:

kingoomieiii: That's why every show on Fox is airing storm footage while only talking about Libya. Sure, 10x as many people have died in this storm, but only one of these events can be plausibly blamed on the president.


So I know it's ethically wrong for FOX to be the GOP's propaganda wing. It's not even a grey area, they are blatantly pro anything GOP and con anything !GOP. But why is it legal? When does this arrangement cross the line from a sympathetic TV station to being GOP TV? At which point the GOP's revenues and taxes become pretty screwy I would think, I suppose Fox's advertisers all know that they are implicitly funding the GOP and the GOP's battle against reason, science, God and America.
2012-10-31 06:33:13 AM
3 votes:

lantawa: The premise that a coverup is occurring is an entirely reasonable premise. This bullshiat of watching our President squawk on about a farkin' you tube movie, while our embassy smoldered, was truly disgusting. Gross incompetence or massive coverup. Your choice.


There is actually a third choice.

Obama is a competent moderate centrist who has made very few errors as president. Republicans desperately need SOMETHING to criticize him for before the election.

This incident is the best they can do. 

SPIN BABY SPIN!
2012-10-31 06:10:01 AM
3 votes:

gaspode: Wow that AC130 could have done a farking super job of making a bad situation about 1000 times worse.


Better hundreds of innocent people die horribly than any Americans ever be put at risk!

farking Nazis, man, I swear to God. Godwin or not, that is some xenophobic, nativist, murderous and reprehensible bullshiat to even suggest that the thing to do for riot control is to just murder everyone from the air.
2012-10-31 06:09:01 AM
3 votes:

timujin: Someone posted a list a while back of all of the attacks on U.S. facilities during the Bush administration. Some of which, if I remember the post correctly, ended in American casualties. Does anyone know what the fark I'm talking about or am I going to have to do actual research?


Per wiki, there were 4 fatal attacks at U.S. diplomatic facilities under Reagan, 1 attack under Bush I, but no one was killed, 2 fatal attacks under Clinton, and 9 fatal attacks under Bush II.

Benghazi was Obama's 2nd.
2012-10-31 05:22:33 AM
3 votes:
Man, they're really hammering this Benghazi thing.

Obama needs to get on TV and say something like:

"Yes, four Americans died. We didn't have a realistic way of saving them given the limited knowledge we had at the time. And yes; we didn't know for certain why the mob killed them for several days. It's a tragedy, but not really an avoidable one - it's a violent part of the world right now, and the American government isn't well liked there. Embassy and consulate attacks are gonna happen. You can say "well, they should have had more guards then!", but a) What do you think a few more guards would have accomplished against a mob of 100's armed with AKs? and b) Why would you think a president has any direct input on something as obscure as the number of guards at a small consulate? This Monday morning quarterbacking shiat where you try to use the deaths of American servicemen for political ends is in really, really poor taste".
2012-10-31 05:16:04 AM
3 votes:

Alphax: Do I even want to know what they imagine President Obama did wrong in Libya?


Presidentin' while black.
2012-10-31 09:28:41 AM
2 votes:
Does anyone give a shiat about this "libya scandal" talking point?

I don't even understand it. The GOP is upset because, after four Americans were killed and the riots were over, the administration sent "mixed signals" regarding whether it was a terrorist attack or not?

Is this really the best the GOP has right now? because if it is, I smell desperation. We have a pretty clear picture of what happened at this point, and it doesn't change anything. The four Americans are still dead. And it's not like the American people immediately needed to know exactly what happened.

What would you rather have - an administration that jumps to conclusions about what could be a complicated situation in a foreign country, or an administration that wants to figure out what actually happened before saying "terrorists did this!"

And on top of this, the thing that drives me nuts is that the GOP has managed to effectively bury the fact that its top officials during the Bush years drummed up false reports of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, in order to convince congress and the American people to support a full-scale invasion of the country! How the hell does Romney get away with using those same people to be his top foreign policy advisers on the campaign?

To me, this all points to mass media with the attention span of a three year old on a sugar rush. We need serious investigative journalism to dig into the people behind the scenes, and the media needs to pay attention to what they find out. Instead, the media will just get manipulated into reporting stupid shiat like "oh, there was a terrorist on facebook taking credit for the attack the day after it happened, so this proves that the administration lied to us about the fact that terrorists were behind the attack."

And then the administration used those "lies" to get us to invade a foreign country and spend over a trillion dollars in an unfunded war? Oh wait, no it didn't....
2012-10-31 08:18:07 AM
2 votes:

stoli n coke: Judging by his action Tuesday, Christie is blowing it for Romney so he can get his shot in 2016.


Christie has a job to do. I have no reason to believe his actions are motivated by anything other than his immediate challenges. Sometimes people do the right thing because it is the right thing to do.
2012-10-31 08:08:12 AM
2 votes:

Lunaville: I love how we're suddenly worried about warnings.


Or attacks on US Embassies, for that matter, considering that there were 12 that took place under Bush.  For some reason, Fox News didn't deem them to be newsworthy.
2012-10-31 07:47:00 AM
2 votes:
I don't see what the big deal is about the Libya incident that the GOP is relying on it to win them the election. I'm pretty damn critical of Obama, but looking at what happened all I see is a tragedy that may or may not have been avoided in hindsight. I don't see gross incompetence or a conspiracy.

What I do see is a lot of dolts from the previous administration bringing it up an pretending they weren't a part of the decision to lie to the American people in order to go into Iraq for no good reason, which strikes me as absurd. Like a serial rapist giving a guy crap for moving in too quick for a kiss on the second date.
2012-10-31 07:37:29 AM
2 votes:
John McCain would have been one of the worst Presidents in US history. Devoid of honor, full of anger and dangerously stupid.
2012-10-31 07:32:45 AM
2 votes:
Four Americans died in Benghazi and it's all B. Hussein Osama's fault. So vote for Rmoney so we can bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran! and get even more Americans killed.
2012-10-31 07:13:42 AM
2 votes:
"This president is either engaged in a massive cover-up deceiving the American people or he is so grossly incompetent that he is not qualified to be the commander in chief of our armed forces. It's either one of them," McCain told Romney volunteers gathered here at a Victory Center.

Imagine the derpstorm if Al Gore had said this about Bush after the first casualties in Iraq.
2012-10-31 06:53:48 AM
2 votes:

Noam Chimpsky: I'm sure it rained in 1973 but the Democrats didn't drop the whole Watergate thing. No one died at Watergate.


No, but they died in Cambodia, which was one of the articles of impeachment Nixon was facing before he resigned.

Dolt.
2012-10-31 06:47:19 AM
2 votes:

lantawa: He's spot on with his assertion of what is happening with the Administration relative to Libya. Obvious statements are obvious to all but the most obstinate, obtuse, recalcitrant, and incorrigible partisan parasites.

But, but....hurr, durr, him bad, him tawking bouts dis at wrongs event, I gnashes teefs at hims!.


...so I guess that's why the only real thing that non-F*X sources are attacking him on is whether he called it a terrorist attack quickly enough?
2012-10-31 06:15:22 AM
2 votes:
...a stinging rebuke of President Barack Obama's handling of the terrorist attack on an American consulate in Libya,

At an event to rally relief for superstorm victims McCain said this?

Yeesh.

The continued efforts of the GOP to try to turn the deaths of Americans into political capitol has been nauseating enough at regular campaign rallies, doing so at a relief rally smacks of desperation and petty partisanship.

Party before Country Republicans as usual.

Where was all this outrage on 9/11 when Bush's continued insistence on not taking Al Qaeda seriously led to the greatest terrorist attack on America EVAH?

As far as I can tell Obama and State have handled the situation as well as one could hope and this feigned outrage rings completely hollow.
2012-10-31 05:48:04 AM
2 votes:
See, if he had won this would NOT have been an issue.

He would have died from the stress -- or a "tragic accident" where he was mysteriously crushed under 281 bags of falling Husky Chow -- by mid-2009. Eventually a French newspaper would have printed a "Who Wore It Better" photo of President Palin and Carla Bruni wearing the same $5,000 pantsuit with the caption "Madame President...more than your poll numbers are sagging" and Sarah would have
nuked every French and Italian city, turning the Mediterranean into a radioactive swamp of death.

This bold act of leadership would not only have prevented Iran from reaching the sea via Syria, but would have rendered much of Libya uninhabitable due to fallout and radiation poisoning. Ergo, no Benghazi consulate attack.
2012-10-31 05:47:55 AM
2 votes:
Your retirement home: please stay there.
2012-10-31 03:46:36 AM
2 votes:
Someone posted a list a while back of all of the attacks on U.S. facilities during the Bush administration. Some of which, if I remember the post correctly, ended in American casualties. Does anyone know what the fark I'm talking about or am I going to have to do actual research?
2012-10-30 11:58:00 PM
2 votes:

Mixolydian Master: fark this guy. He actually goes and meets with dictators. Thinks they're interesting. I wouldn't take his advice on whether or not to drink a glass of piss.
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It's "interesting" in the way that "we need to learn how to oppress our own people more efficiently" is something that GOP leaders are interested in.
2012-10-30 11:54:21 PM
2 votes:
fark this guy. He actually goes and meets with dictators. Thinks they're interesting. I wouldn't take his advice on whether or not to drink a glass of piss.
media.salon.com
2012-10-30 11:45:35 PM
2 votes:

Genevieve Marie: Poor John McCain. I remember when he was considered reasonable by most people and well liked by both parties.

I'm not sure what happened to him.


I'm not quite sure why. He fought longer than anyone else to stop MLK Day. He's never been a good guy.
2012-10-30 10:13:36 PM
2 votes:

kmmontandon: Oh, look, another Republican veteran standing up for a draft dodger.

Remember when Republicans hated draft dodgers?

Good times, good times.


Romney dodged the draft and then stayed in the US participating in anti-anti-war activist groups. He's been a chickenhawk since VIETNAM ITSELF.
2012-10-30 09:58:30 PM
2 votes:
Oh, look, another Republican veteran standing up for a draft dodger.

Remember when Republicans hated draft dodgers?

Good times, good times.
2012-10-30 09:40:44 PM
2 votes:

nvmac: I guess John was pissed because they didn't include him in on the decision process. He does get angry when left out of military matters.

He was almost the President, after all.


But ruined his chances when he demonstrated how terrible he was at decision-making (Palin?).
2012-10-31 12:21:16 PM
1 votes:

mr lawson: Alphax: You're a damned liar.

What part?


Not to belabor a point, or call factcheck out, there is a lot of stuff there, but a Libyan representative in the UK told BBC news on September 12th that there was a protest about the video and this other group used it as an opportunity to attack the consulate. What we know now in hindsight and what we knew then, what was reported by different news agencies, the known knowns, unknown knowns and the unknown unknowns have changed over time.

We did not have investigators on the ground in the consulate until October. We had disparate sources of information, and making a coherent picture out of it seems to have been easier for some news organizations than others. I have a hard time seeing the conspiracy that others find so blatant. The battle seems to be about who was ready to call something something when. People were being arrested before some people called one thing or the other. I'm not sure it makes much difference what it was called if we were picking up the perps.

Anyway, I have limited page search capabilities on the iPad, but I don't see the drone video or the ac130 assertion on that page, not that I know they would have made a difference, especially with the timeline detailed there. It sounds like there was fighting at close quarters in 2 buildings. Any amount of large caliber or multidirectional ordinance seems like it might have gotten more of our own people killed. But I defer that judgement to the Internet colonels and secret agents.

Clearly it doesn't pay to be patient for all the facts to come out when there is so little time to make it into a semantic conspiracy before the election. If anyone should know that, it would be McCain. And we've only had to compromise our security and intelligence operations in Benghazi to make the appropriate amount of hay.
2012-10-31 11:05:50 AM
1 votes:
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2012-10-31 10:13:45 AM
1 votes:

mr lawson: "They" had access to a AC-130 gunship that was near by


What the hell do you think they could do with that? Open fire onto all the protesters, non-combatants and all? Or the consulate itself? What, you think it could just snipe the bad guys? Far from it. A gunship is worthless in the circumstances they faced.
2012-10-31 09:05:42 AM
1 votes:
I am so glad he is not our president, I cannot imagine how many wars we would be in.
2012-10-31 08:52:34 AM
1 votes:
Why, exactly. is this coming up in a "Relief Rally," and why do these "Relief Rallies" seem to be exclusively held in Ohio? I mean, Romney pledges that he wouldn't campaign during this time because it's unseemly. It's so unlike Romney to change his mind.
2012-10-31 08:19:42 AM
1 votes:

InmanRoshi: It's funny how they don't realize how trivial the difference is between them gleefully using the death of an American to score political points and the Palestinians celebrating in the streets after 9/11 that they were so revolted by.


I doubt they realize how much they have in common with fundamentalists in other parts of the world... Their provincial, constipated world view doesn't allow for such flexibility of thought.
2012-10-31 08:16:01 AM
1 votes:

t3knomanser: I'm still so confused by all of this. I'm apparently retarded, because I have no clue what the Republicans are going on about. Let me see if I can walk through the series of events and try and understand it.

1) An idiotic YouTube video goes viral and inflames the Muslim world, leading to protests.
2) At around the same time, a group of militants attack a US consulate in Benghazi. The attack was unexpected, the consulate wasn't prepared to repel an attack of that nature, and people died.
3) The Obama administration sees (1) and (2), and makes the mistake of seeing causation in the correlation.
4) After the fog of war clears, they admit their mistake.
5) Republicans complain.

OHHHHH. I get it now. They admitted an honest mistake. Republicans can't do that, and the very thought offends them.



Well you see Obama, who they previously said apologizes too much, hasn't apologized enough - he should admit it was he personally who deliberately and with malice aforethought allowed this to happen, resign, and go back to Kenya.
2012-10-31 08:15:22 AM
1 votes:

keylock71: andino: What did you expect anyone in America to do in either of those intervals? Fire on the consulate while our own people are still inside??

I can't help but think these clods think reality is like an episode of 24 or a movie based on a Tom Clancy novel...

It's utterly disgusting watching these people use the deaths of American citizens to try and score political points.


It's funny how they don't realize how trivial the difference is between them gleefully using the death of an American to score political points and the Palestinians celebrating in the streets after 9/11 that they were so revolted by.
2012-10-31 08:10:01 AM
1 votes:

andino: What did you expect anyone in America to do in either of those intervals? Fire on the consulate while our own people are still inside??


I can't help but think these clods think reality is like an episode of 24 or a movie based on a Tom Clancy novel...

It's utterly disgusting watching these people use the deaths of American citizens to try and score political points.
2012-10-31 08:07:36 AM
1 votes:
I get the feeling these days John McCain spends most of his time sitting in his living room watching Fox News. He's basically everyone's crazy uncle. When asked by our friends what's wrong with him, we whisper "He was in the war..."
2012-10-31 08:05:22 AM
1 votes:
I love how we're suddenly worried about warnings.
How many FBI warnings or attempts to warn superiors did Obama ignore?
How many reports or briefings did he brush aside or ignore?

Tell you what, get back to me when he has allowed the entire, extended Bin Laden family to be air lifted out of Orlando while every airport in the country is on lock down.
2012-10-31 07:56:45 AM
1 votes:
media.salon.com

Sounds like McCain likes to pall around with terrorists.

Gaddafi brought down Pan Am 103 and McCain brought down 5 Navy Jets, so I guess they did have common interests.
2012-10-31 07:53:53 AM
1 votes:

Noam Chimpsky: stoli n coke: Noam Chimpsky: I'm sure it rained in 1973 but the Democrats didn't drop the whole Watergate thing. No one died at Watergate.

No, but they died in Cambodia, which was one of the articles of impeachment Nixon was facing before he resigned.

Dolt.

I blame John Kerry's favorite French professor, Pol Pot.


No, it was Reagan who was a huge Pol Pot fan.

It was Reagan who refused to recognize the regime that replaced Pol Pot, claiming that Pol Pot/Khmer Rouge was the true government of Cambodia. Reagan sent his advisor Ray Cline to go meet with the overthrown Khmer living on the Thai Border, to advise them with how to get back into power He teamed up with the Chinese on the UN security council and the Association of South East Asian Nations to reinstate the Khmer Rouge to power in 1982 to refuse to sanctioned aid to the Cambodian people. The Chinese were trading partners with Pol Pot, so that was their incentive. Reagan just didn't like he fact that Vietnam helped overthrow Pol Pot, and was willing to let the Cambodian people starve to death just to prove his butthurt about it. Just further proof that St. Ronnie was probably a clinically diagnosed sociopath.
2012-10-31 07:47:13 AM
1 votes:
gothamist.com
2012-10-31 07:45:27 AM
1 votes:

t3knomanser: OHHHHH. I get it now. They admitted an honest mistake. Republicans can't do that, and the very thought offends them.


QFT.

They view any criticism of themselves as weakness regardless of validity.
2012-10-31 07:43:00 AM
1 votes:

t3knomanser: I'm still so confused by all of this. I'm apparently retarded, because I have no clue what the Republicans are going on about. Let me see if I can walk through the series of events and try and understand it.


A few Americans died in some country filled with scary brown people just before the election, therefore Obama must be impeached!

Honestly, they're well aware there's no scandal here, but if they can make a loud enough stink about it they'll put a dent in Obama's foreign policy reputation in the minds of the electorate. Most people won't look into it and just think "Man, Obama must have screwed up, he's catching so much flak over this!"
2012-10-31 07:41:34 AM
1 votes:

Mixolydian Master: fark this guy. He actually goes and meets with dictators. Thinks they're interesting. I wouldn't take his advice on whether or not to drink a glass of piss.
[media.salon.com image 478x209]


Sounds like McCain likes to pall around with terrorists.

Gaddafi brought down Pan Am 103 and McCain brought down 5 Navy jets, so I guess they did have things in common.
2012-10-31 07:30:12 AM
1 votes:
Country first, bitter old man.
2012-10-31 07:26:12 AM
1 votes:

lantawa: Come out and play. Let me finish. McCain. Obama. Herp a derp, yer Momma.


Oh look, the best he can do is Yer Mama.

What a stupendously excruciating effort that must have been.

www.outliermusic.com
2012-10-31 07:04:40 AM
1 votes:

Uchiha_Cycliste: Make no mistake, I don't agree with McCain or Lantawa, but you'd do much better to say McCain is a tool and anyone who believes him is a fool than to just blow off his defenders by attacking them. It just makes you look like, well, the GOP. We're better than that.


nice and circular. call them a fool, but don't attack them. compare somebody to something as dastardly as the GOP, but don't attack them.

in a way, i get what you're saying. in another way, i recognize that we're on fark - and the ultimate answer to everything in front of us is actually 'your mom is a whore'. and no, we really aren't better than that.
2012-10-31 07:02:15 AM
1 votes:

Uchiha_Cycliste: stoli n coke: Uchiha_Cycliste: stoli n coke: lantawa: He's spot on with his assertion of what is happening with the Administration relative to Libya. Obvious statements are obvious to all but the most obstinate, obtuse, recalcitrant, and incorrigible partisan parasites.

But, but....hurr, durr, him bad, him tawking bouts dis at wrongs event, I gnashes teefs at hims!.

Did your parents have any children they were proud of, or just you?

You know, not to defend Lantawa's silly opinion, but you never addressed his point. You only attacked him and continued to do so. He appears to be agreeing with McCain, is Calling him a poopy head the best you can do to refute him? you see the irony in implying he is childish right?

He agrees with anyone who keeps trying to make Benghazi into the new Watergate.

News-flash. Working at a diplomatic facility in a country hostile to the U.S. is dangerous. That's why we've had 15 attacks on diplomatic facilities since Reagan, including 9 under the last administration.

Trying to press this issue when you're supposed to be drumming up support to help Americans who are currently suffering in America is the act of a partisan shill.

But your concern is noted.

Make no mistake, I don't agree with McCain or Lantawa, but you'd do much better to say McCain is a tool and anyone who believes him is a fool than to just blow off his defenders by attacking them. It just makes you look like, well, the GOP. We're better than that.


Its funny because you just did the same thing, twice lol.
2012-10-31 06:38:23 AM
1 votes:
Just when you think you can find one Republican with some honor, he blows it all on lying for his "team".

/Chris Christie is building up that bank to blow later, too.
2012-10-31 06:32:20 AM
1 votes:

DjangoStonereaver: His complete abandonment of principles after losing to GWB in 2000 is one of the most shameful
transformations in US political history.



It's sad to be a republican that was pwned by a more evil republican, and coming out of the experience by coming to the conclusion that in order to make it as a republican, you have to be even MORE brutal and evil. The most brutal and evil republican wins the primary.

And people still seem to cling onto the hope that republicans will somehow do some soul-searching after this election and do something about the crazies in their midst. You'd have better luck trying to make a zombie living again.

They're never going to get better. Only worse.
2012-10-31 06:28:53 AM
1 votes:
Why bother with an AC-130? We shoulda just nuked the whole country the minute one of those terrorists stepped on our sovereign soil! Of course Barry Hussein 0bama would never attack his pals.
2012-10-31 06:09:34 AM
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Just when you think McCain might have regained some semblance of sanity, he does something like this.

His complete abandonment of principles after losing to GWB in 2000 is one of the most shameful
transformations in US political history.
2012-10-31 06:08:02 AM
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when you absolutely, positively need to kill everything in a small Libyan city
2012-10-31 05:27:20 AM
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2012-10-31 05:21:53 AM
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2008 election is over, Johnny. Do you really want to get pwned in two election seasons in a row?
2012-10-31 05:18:12 AM
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Alphax: Do I even want to know what they imagine President Obama did wrong in Libya?


Not order an immediate invasion of Sudan. That's what a Republican would've done!
2012-10-31 05:09:52 AM
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He's spot on with his assertion of what is happening with the Administration relative to Libya. Obvious statements are obvious to all but the most obstinate, obtuse, recalcitrant, and incorrigible partisan parasites.

But, but....hurr, durr, him bad, him tawking bouts dis at wrongs event, I gnashes teefs at hims!.
2012-10-31 12:07:53 AM
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How sad.
2012-10-30 11:53:39 PM
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GAT_00: Genevieve Marie: Poor John McCain. I remember when he was considered reasonable by most people and well liked by both parties.

I'm not sure what happened to him.

I'm not quite sure why. He fought longer than anyone else to stop MLK Day. He's never been a good guy.


Huh. Something I did not know.

I think it's that his POW story is so horrible and so compelling. You want to root for someone that survived that. Also, I think there's the assumption that someone who's survived something like that has to have a special strength and resilience.

I just.... really don't care for that guy now.
 
2012-10-30 11:52:07 PM
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I just watched Game Change. He came across as a great above it all kinda guy, but I'm not sure why he didn't kill his entire staff.
2012-10-30 11:44:27 PM
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Poor John McCain. I remember when he was considered reasonable by most people and well liked by both parties.

I'm not sure what happened to him.
2012-10-30 09:21:35 PM
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"This president is either engaged in a massive cover-up deceiving the American people or he is so grossly incompetent that he is not qualified to be the commander in chief of our armed forces. It's either one of them," McCain told Romney volunteers gathered here at a Victory Center."

Well, I'm sure that really amped up the crowd to donate time and money to relief efforts!

/farking troll, retire already
 
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