incendi: NateGrey: McCain could ofYes, for all intensive purposes, he certainly could of.
SacriliciousBeerSwiller: mr lawson: "They" had access to a AC-130 gunship that was near byWhat the hell do you think they could do with that? Open fire onto all the protesters, non-combatants and all? Or the consulate itself? What, you think it could just snipe the bad guys? Far from it. A gunship is worthless in the circumstances they faced.
GoodyearPimp: FirstNationalBastard: [i297.photobucket.com image 400x300]Heh, I know that picture is fake. McCain can't raise his hand that high.
Chummer45: I don't even understand it. The GOP is upset because, after four Americans were killed and the riots were over, the administration sent "mixed signals" regarding whether it was a terrorist attack or not?
Gunther: Man, they're really hammering this Benghazi thing.Obama needs to get on TV and say something like:"Yes, four Americans died. We didn't have a realistic way of saving them given the limited knowledge we had at the time. And yes; we didn't know for certain why the mob killed them for several days. It's a tragedy, but not really an avoidable one - it's a violent part of the world right now, and the American government isn't well liked there. Embassy and consulate attacks are gonna happen. You can say "well, they should have had more guards then!", but a) What do you think a few more guards would have accomplished against a mob of 100's armed with AKs? and b) Why would you think a president has any direct input on something as obscure as the number of guards at a small consulate? This Monday morning quarterbacking shiat where you try to use the deaths of American servicemen for political ends is in really, really poor taste".
Noam Chimpsky: I'm sure it rained in 1973 but the Democrats didn't drop the whole Watergate thing. No one died at Watergate.
lantawa: He's spot on with his assertion of what is happening with the Administration relative to Libya. Obvious statements are obvious to all but the most obstinate, obtuse, recalcitrant, and incorrigible partisan parasites.
Gunther: t3knomanser: I'm still so confused by all of this. I'm apparently retarded, because I have no clue what the Republicans are going on about. Let me see if I can walk through the series of events and try and understand it.A few Americans died in some country filled with scary brown people just before the election, therefore Obama must be impeached!Honestly, they're well aware there's no scandal here, but if they can make a loud enough stink about it they'll put a dent in Obama's foreign policy reputation in the minds of the electorate. Most people won't look into it and just think "Man, Obama must have screwed up, he's catching so much flak over this!"
mr lawson: Alphax: You're a damned liar.What part?
Genevieve Marie: GAT_00: Genevieve Marie: Poor John McCain. I remember when he was considered reasonable by most people and well liked by both parties.I'm not sure what happened to him.I'm not quite sure why. He fought longer than anyone else to stop MLK Day. He's never been a good guy.Huh. Something I did not know.I think it's that his POW story is so horrible and so compelling. You want to root for someone that survived that. Also, I think there's the assumption that someone who's survived something like that has to have a special strength and resilience.I just.... really don't care for that guy now.
Chummer45: Does anyone give a shiat about this "libya scandal" talking point?
NateGrey: lol in a thread full of grammar mistakes you pick that one? Good on you Mr Nazi!
LordJiro: ~40 Americans dead, the East coast is underwater, millions without power, a sizable chunk of America's largest city is devastated - Not worth talking about.Four Americans who CHOSE to work in a very unstable part of the world die in an 'act of terror' (which somehow differs from a terrorist attack) - WORSE THAN FIFTY NINE ELEVENS!!11!11 despite the fact that many, if not most, of the people involved in the attack have been caught./Remind me how many American embassies and consulates were attacked during previous presidencies?
Chummer45: What would you rather have - an administration that jumps to conclusions about what could be a complicated situation in a foreign country, or an administration that wants to figure out what actually happened before saying "terrorists did this!"
Mr. Coffee Nerves: See, if he had won this would NOT have been an issue.He would have died from the stress -- or a "tragic accident" where he was mysteriously crushed under 281 bags of falling Husky Chow -- by mid-2009. Eventually a French newspaper would have printed a "Who Wore It Better" photo of President Palin and Carla Bruni wearing the same $5,000 pantsuit with the caption "Madame President...more than your poll numbers are sagging" and Sarah would havenuked every French and Italian city, turning the Mediterranean into a radioactive swamp of death.This bold act of leadership would not only have prevented Iran from reaching the sea via Syria, but would have rendered much of Libya uninhabitable due to fallout and radiation poisoning. Ergo, no Benghazi consulate attack.
thamike: timujin: Someone posted a list a while back of all of the attacks on U.S. facilities during the Bush administration. Some of which, if I remember the post correctly, ended in American casualties. Does anyone know what the fark I'm talking about or am I going to have to do actual research?It might have been me:Just U.S. embassies and consulates?Bush: 5 embassies, 3 consulates, and the American Center in Kolkata. 50+ dead altogether.
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