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(Russia Today)   Police officer uses taser on 10 year old boy to "show [him] what happens to people who do not listen to the police", because the boy stated that he didn't want to clean the officer's squad car during career day   (rt.com) divider line 231
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2012-10-30 11:23:36 PM  
www.clevescene.com

And thats why you don't not listen to the police.
 
2012-10-30 11:23:40 PM  

Cinaed: The man does not deserve to wear that badge, or any other, ever again.


There's no chance at all of administrative punishment or personal liability for this Officer.

The only question is if the kid's parents win a few grand from the state, and whether the Officer's buddies arrest them on bogus charges or just shoot them later.
 
2012-10-30 11:24:18 PM  
The kid refuses to do something on career day. A verbal warning, maybe bringing the kid to the principal. But pointing a weapon at a child? This is one of the rare times where the parents are definitely within their rights to sue the department. Talk about trauma. Jebus.
 
2012-10-30 11:24:27 PM  
And this, you youngins, is why they are called "pigs".
 
2012-10-30 11:24:33 PM  

andyofne: Relatively Obscure: This story, and one other I've read on this same site, strike me as ... odd.

I'm also only currently finding it on sites that could be considered questionable. Anyone have this from a solid source?

RT is the first Russian 24/7 English-language news channel which brings the Russian view on global news.

So, basically, crap?


Combine The Sun and Cold War-era Pravda and you get RT.
 
2012-10-30 11:25:03 PM  

fnordfocus: Rincewind53: Now, you can criticize him for pointing what he thought was an unloaded Taser at a kid in jest, but he clearly didn't mean to shoot the kid.

I can criticize him to taking the kid to the Principal's office for further punishment rather than allowing him to receive medical care.

Plus that's a farking lame excuse. If a civilian were to claim "I didn't know it was loaded" he would be in jail with no bail. This Officer won't even get paid leave.


Nah, Civilian would be shot for pointing a deadly weapon and officer safety.
 
2012-10-30 11:25:05 PM  
www.retroist.com
 
2012-10-30 11:25:45 PM  
what is a squad card?
 
2012-10-30 11:25:50 PM  

fnordfocus: Rincewind53: Now, you can criticize him for pointing what he thought was an unloaded Taser at a kid in jest, but he clearly didn't mean to shoot the kid.

I can criticize him to taking the kid to the Principal's office for further punishment rather than allowing him to receive medical care.


^This. Any time someone is hit with a taser, they need medical attention, whether it's a 10 year old boy, or a 35 year old crack smoking homicide suspect. The effects one of those can have on the heart are completely random, as they vary from person to person.

 
2012-10-30 11:26:07 PM  
At least he didn't clean out the wound with pepper spray.
 
2012-10-30 11:27:09 PM  
farm5.staticflickr.com

So did he clean the car or what?
 
2012-10-30 11:28:04 PM  

Rincewind53: Relatively Obscure: TSG's article is significantly better.

Yeah, it pretty much validates exactly what I thought had happened; cop made a mistake. Now, you can criticize him for pointing what he thought was an unloaded Taser at a kid in jest, but he clearly didn't mean to shoot the kid. But this is why gun safety rule number one is never point a gun at someone you don't intend to shoot.


This. He could have made this same mistake had he done it with his pistol. That's why you need to be consistent with the rules, or you'll eventually do something like he did and reload while on 'autopilot', just out of habit.
 
2012-10-30 11:32:02 PM  
Paging cruiser 12 a cop got derpy and needs your help...
 
2012-10-30 11:32:50 PM  

Semantic Warrior: ^This. Any time someone is hit with a taser, they need medical attention, whether it's a 10 year old boy, or a 35 year old crack smoking homicide suspect. The effects one of those can have on the heart are completely random, as they vary from person to person.


Thing is, to most Officers, random civilians are barely human and certainly don't qualify as "someone."
 
2012-10-30 11:33:12 PM  

Relatively Obscure: Also, from that TSG link:

The child was hit with the taser probes during a demonstration earlier this year at Tularosa Elementary School, where Officer Christopher Webb spoke to groups of students in the school playground about gun and taser safety.

YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG


I don't know... That's a demonstration of the consequences negligent gun handling that those kids are not likely to forget. Kind of brilliant if you ask me. :P
 
2012-10-30 11:33:14 PM  
And now he's on the police policy board... you know, to get him off the street.
 
2012-10-30 11:33:36 PM  

Rincewind53: Relatively Obscure: TSG's article is significantly better.

Yeah, it pretty much validates exactly what I thought had happened; cop made a mistake. Now, you can criticize him for pointing what he thought was an unloaded Taser at a kid in jest, but he clearly didn't mean to shoot the kid. But this is why gun safety rule number one is never point a gun at someone you don't intend to shoot.


A TASER at a kid in jest.

Try pointing a gun a cop in jest, see what happens. This cop is extremely terrible.
 
2012-10-30 11:34:58 PM  
WTF is an "officer's squad card"
 
2012-10-30 11:35:49 PM  
Did anyone else notice that this isn't his first Taser AD? His letter of explanation says he's fired one off in the trunk of his cruiser, too. This dude needs not to be allowed near things with triggers.
 
2012-10-30 11:36:03 PM  
"Assume Device is Loaded. Always assume that a TASER device is loaded. Do not point a TASER device at anything you do not intend to hit."
-Taser X26C operating manual

That rule is inviolable. The cop should be fired.
 
2012-10-30 11:36:33 PM  

basemetal: That's assault and battery with a dangerous weapon even if it was an accident. Was the officer charged?


Well, he seemed positive that the Taser was not carrying a full load.
 
2012-10-30 11:36:53 PM  

GAT_00: andyofne: Relatively Obscure: This story, and one other I've read on this same site, strike me as ... odd.

I'm also only currently finding it on sites that could be considered questionable. Anyone have this from a solid source?

RT is the first Russian 24/7 English-language news channel which brings the Russian view on global news.

So, basically, crap?

Combine The Sun and Cold War-era Pravda and you get RT most major media.

 
2012-10-30 11:37:09 PM  
TSG's more informative version of the story says the cop contends it was an accident. I'm OK with that, since it means he's already publicly confessed to felony reckless endangerment. I'd love to see a reporter from the local news station stick a mic and camera in front of the DA and ask why felony charges haven't been filed against the cop on an apparently open and shut case.
 
2012-10-30 11:39:20 PM  

Farking Lurker: Paging ... a cop got derpy and needs your help...


I don't know if it's ok to call anyone out by name, but about 20% of Farkers claim to work in public safety and I haven't seen one comment yet.

So, let's go with something like "this is clearly against Department policy so it didn't actually happen," and "Officer safety would have justified shooting the kid, who is clearly an illegal immigrant and a future rapist, so he's just lucky it was only a TASER."
 
2012-10-30 11:40:23 PM  
I call BS. Cop doing the typical cop thing. Abusing people to get his jollys. I expect nothing better from ANY cop. Violent thugs we would for the most part be better off without. I don't fear criminals since I usually can protect myself. I DO fear police.
 
2012-10-30 11:40:30 PM  

pheelix: I'd love to see a reporter from the local news station stick a mic and camera in front of the DA and ask why felony charges haven't been filed against the cop on an apparently open and shut case.


Because felony charges are for little people.
 
2012-10-30 11:43:21 PM  

Farking Lurker: Paging cruiser 12 a cop got derpy and needs your help...


Beat me to it. But in lieu of C-12 being on a donut break, I'll focus on this knucklehead

Rincewind53: Relatively Obscure: TSG's article is significantly better.

Yeah, it pretty much validates exactly what I thought had happened; cop made a mistake. Now, you can criticize him for pointing what he thought was an unloaded Taser at a kid in jest, but he clearly didn't mean to shoot the kid. But this is why gun safety rule number one is never point a gun at someone you don't intend to shoot.


So ignorance of rules and laws is OK if you're a cop? Since there's no actual corpse, there's no harm done?

And you seem to be implying that you wouldn't criticize him for pointing ANY weapon at a child? Even if it's "in jest"? C-12 might not be the biggest retard in these "Cops Uber Alles" threads after all. That's no small feat.
 
2012-10-30 11:44:18 PM  
And you thought facisim was dead.
 
2012-10-30 11:46:05 PM  

fnordfocus: pheelix: I'd love to see a reporter from the local news station stick a mic and camera in front of the DA and ask why felony charges haven't been filed against the cop on an apparently open and shut case.

Because felony charges are for little people.


Hence the reason I'd love to see a reporter shame the DA into doing the right thing.
 
2012-10-30 11:46:06 PM  

devlin carnate:

Since there's no actual corpse, there's no harm done?


Yeah, that usually not too big of a deal either, even less at time. Dead men can't refute your lie.
 
2012-10-30 11:46:35 PM  
Too bad cops can't be held individually (personally) liable for stuff like this. The family will sue the city, they'll get paid off by the taxpayers and the cop won't really care.
 
2012-10-30 11:48:05 PM  

farkingismybusiness: I would have just shot the kid.


Kid went for his gun. He told him it wasn't a toy, but the little thug was irresistibly drawn to it. Bad genes.
 
2012-10-30 11:48:30 PM  
Just reading stories like this makes my heartrate go crazy.

Few things are guaranteed to insta-piss me off like police abuse. This shiat takes me right to the edge of postal. 

... and of course nothing will happen to this abomination of a blue-clad 'tard.
 
2012-10-30 11:49:39 PM  

dj_bigbird: Too bad cops can't be held individually (personally) liable for stuff like this. The family will sue the city, they'll get paid off by the taxpayers and the cop won't really care.


The city, its insurance policy, and the tax payers have more money than the cop. No point in suing the cop himself for millions of dollars, you'd never see it.
 
2012-10-30 11:50:00 PM  

Rincewind53: Relatively Obscure: TSG's article is significantly better.

Yeah, it pretty much validates exactly what I thought had happened; cop made a mistake. Now, you can criticize him for pointing what he thought was an unloaded Taser at a kid in jest, but he clearly didn't mean to shoot the kid. But this is why gun safety rule number one is never point a gun at someone you don't intend to shoot.


"I didn't think it was loaded" can't possibly be successful in court, especially for a cop.
 
2012-10-30 11:50:16 PM  

dj_bigbird: Too bad cops can't be held individually (personally) liable for stuff like this. The family will sue the city, they'll get paid off by the taxpayers and the cop won't really care.


Sure they can. Won't, but can.

A crime was committed here. Cops are not (supposed to be) immune from criminal prosecution.
 
2012-10-30 11:51:23 PM  
Eh, just publish the cop's name, picture, and home address, along with a statement that hitting him with 50,000 volts is just in jest and anyone doing so will receive a paid three day vacation. Problem solved.
 
2012-10-30 11:51:28 PM  

cryinoutloud: farkingismybusiness: I would have just shot the kid.

Kid went for his gun. He told him it wasn't a toy, but the little thug was irresistibly drawn to it. Bad genes.


Jordache?

/Sorry. It's late.
 
2012-10-30 11:51:34 PM  
Mistake or not, anyone else who did this would get jail time.

What an idiot. He should resign from the force in emarrassment. It's amazing that anyone would want someone so incompetent on their force. Or he's lying and really wanted to teach the kid to shut up and not talk back to an officer. Either way, get rid of him.

I can't imagine making a mistake this huge, and not wanting to hide in shame. But he thinks he can still be a cop. Wow...some people have extremely low standards for themselves.
 
2012-10-30 11:51:53 PM  
Seriously in my line of work I am held to a "higher standard" I get told that all the time and I have to tell my guys the same.

Whats wrong with cops and why aren't these shiatbirds rightfully nailed to the farking wall.
 
2012-10-30 11:52:35 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-10-30 11:53:51 PM  

Rambino: Cops are not (supposed to be) immune from criminal prosecution.


Since when?

Officers are generally immune from criminal or civil liability for anything they do on-duty, or as part of duties.
 
2012-10-30 11:54:06 PM  

TommyymmoT: Relatively Obscure: This story, and one other I've read on this same site, strike me as ... odd.

I'm also only currently finding it on sites that could be considered questionable. Anyone have this from a solid source?

The Smoking Gun


So old news is old news. ("...the May 4 Career Day")

This guy should be sentenced to being repeatedly shocked in prison 3 times a day.
 
2012-10-30 11:54:39 PM  
Finally we have a story of someone in authority sticking something other than his penis into a 10 year old boy.
 
2012-10-30 11:54:51 PM  

Farking Lurker: Seriously in my line of work I am held to a "higher standard" I get told that all the time and I have to tell my guys the same.

Whats wrong with cops and why aren't these shiatbirds rightfully nailed to the farking wall.


Seriously. In my world, anyone involved in enforcing laws (cops, prosecutors, judges) is held to a higher standard. If any of these commit actual crimes, all sentences are doubled.
 
2012-10-30 11:55:36 PM  

R.A.Danny: doglover: R.A.Danny: Seriously, we're safer with fewer cops.

Says you. What if some dark night a 10 year old pops up and demands to not wash my car!? What am I gonna do?

Taze the little farker of course


I don't have a tazer! Can't buy one, either.

This is why we need cops.
 
2012-10-30 11:55:39 PM  

Rambino: Just reading stories like this makes my heartrate go crazy.

Few things are guaranteed to insta-piss me off like police abuse. This shiat takes me right to the edge of postal. 

... and of course nothing will happen to this abomination of a blue-clad 'tard.


The first part is annoying. The second part is what drives me insane.

Well, that and pelvic thrusts.
 
2012-10-30 11:56:35 PM  

Happy Hours: It's sourced from RT. That's an even less reliable news source than Fox.

The Smoking Gun has included details that make the story make a bit more sense. Link

Still a stupid move by the cop in question but TSG's version isn't as one-sided.

 
2012-10-30 11:56:38 PM  

SanjiSasuke: So old news is old news. ("...the May 4 Career Day")


You can't just sue a state. First, you make a claim for damages. They can pay it, tell you to fark off, or allow you to sue. That takes time. In this case 6-7 months seems reasonable.
 
2012-10-31 12:00:43 AM  
Slimy wet-nosed kids these days sure can learn the value of some good discipline.
 
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