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(Russia Today)   Police officer uses taser on 10 year old boy to "show [him] what happens to people who do not listen to the police", because the boy stated that he didn't want to clean the officer's squad car during career day   (rt.com) divider line 231
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2012-10-30 08:34:13 PM
I sentence him to a rape-rape prison.
 
2012-10-30 08:41:28 PM
What I want to know is if the kid now cleans cars after he is asked the first time.
 
2012-10-30 08:43:07 PM
It's police officers like this one that make me decry the Second Circuit's decision in Jordan v. New London
 
2012-10-30 09:14:31 PM
This story, and one other I've read on this same site, strike me as ... odd.

I'm also only currently finding it on sites that could be considered questionable. Anyone have this from a solid source?
 
2012-10-30 09:21:34 PM
Defendant Webb, the complaint suggests, responded by pointing his Taser at R.D. and saying, 'Let me show you what happens to people who do not listen to the police.'" The officer then allegedly fired two barbs from the device at the child's chest, penetrating his shirt.

ya know, technically that's true. if you don't obey orders, the cops will generally taser the f*ck outta you. this shouldn't come as any surprise to anyone at all.
 
2012-10-30 09:30:27 PM
It's sourced from RT. That's an even less reliable news source than Fox.
 
2012-10-30 09:40:31 PM
Heh. NM. High illiteracy, teen pregnancy and one of the last states to intervene in DV charges amongst couples. Great place and they got some smokin' green chile.
 
2012-10-30 09:45:26 PM

Relatively Obscure: This story, and one other I've read on this same site, strike me as ... odd.

I'm also only currently finding it on sites that could be considered questionable. Anyone have this from a solid source?


The Smoking Gun
 
2012-10-30 09:46:59 PM

TommyymmoT: Relatively Obscure: This story, and one other I've read on this same site, strike me as ... odd.

I'm also only currently finding it on sites that could be considered questionable. Anyone have this from a solid source?

The Smoking Gun


Huh. Never came up on my search. I got Infowars and shiat like that. Thanks! I'll check this one out.
 
2012-10-30 09:51:12 PM
TSG's article is significantly better.
 
2012-10-30 09:53:39 PM

Relatively Obscure: TSG's article is significantly better.


Yeah, it pretty much validates exactly what I thought had happened; cop made a mistake. Now, you can criticize him for pointing what he thought was an unloaded Taser at a kid in jest, but he clearly didn't mean to shoot the kid. But this is why gun safety rule number one is never point a gun at someone you don't intend to shoot.
 
2012-10-30 09:58:18 PM
That's assault and battery with a dangerous weapon even if it was an accident. Was the officer charged?
 
2012-10-30 10:07:02 PM
Also, from that TSG link:

The child was hit with the taser probes during a demonstration earlier this year at Tularosa Elementary School, where Officer Christopher Webb spoke to groups of students in the school playground about gun and taser safety.

YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG
 
2012-10-30 10:16:00 PM

Relatively Obscure: Also, from that TSG link:

The child was hit with the taser probes during a demonstration earlier this year at Tularosa Elementary School, where Officer Christopher Webb spoke to groups of students in the school playground about gun and taser safety.

YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG


Taze me one shame on you...
 
2012-10-30 10:16:16 PM
Squad card?
www.upperdeck.com 

You aren't supposed to jack off on those things man.
 
2012-10-30 10:28:11 PM
Who the fark around here keeps reading Russian news and submitting it?
 
2012-10-30 10:39:00 PM
This is an outrage! There is no way a kid should be hit with a full Taser.

There needs to be some kind of half-power alternative available for law enforcement, teachers, crossing guards and older lawn owners to flourish. Maybe older siblings, too.
 
2012-10-30 10:44:18 PM

GAT_00: Who the fark around here keeps reading Russian news and submitting it?


In Russia, news submits you!
 
2012-10-30 10:49:43 PM

RTOGUY: What I want to know is if the kid now cleans cars after he is asked the first time.


You know, this could catch on. Young parents nowadays don't seem to know how to discipline their children in public places, so they just let them misbehave to everyone else's misery. If the kid-tasing thing became acceptable, we could be looking at an entirely new era in collective child rearing.

"Hi folks... You're little snowflake seems to have ants in her pants today. Did you forget to bring your taser with you? Don't sweat it -- I'll just use mine..." (*ZAP!!!*)

Yeah... I like that...
 
2012-10-30 10:58:03 PM
Seriously, we're safer with fewer cops.
 
2012-10-30 11:08:29 PM
God bless our brave boys in blue.
 
2012-10-30 11:09:00 PM

R.A.Danny: Seriously, we're safer with fewer cops.


Says you. What if some dark night a 10 year old pops up and demands to not wash my car!? What am I gonna do?
 
2012-10-30 11:10:00 PM

doglover: R.A.Danny: Seriously, we're safer with fewer cops.

Says you. What if some dark night a 10 year old pops up and demands to not wash my car!? What am I gonna do?


Taze the little farker of course
 
2012-10-30 11:10:01 PM

GAT_00: Who the fark around here keeps reading Russian news and submitting it?


The cop is enough of an asshat in the real story without RT's exaggeration and misrepresentation. I mean, pointing a taser at a kid, even as a "joke", is an incredibly asshole-ish thing to do.
 
2012-10-30 11:10:46 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: I sentence him to a rape-rape prison.


That seems like an extreme sentence for refusing to clean someone's car.
 
2012-10-30 11:12:23 PM
Well given the usual fark stories I guess we should be glad that he wasn't shot and killed and then have loaded gun and crack planted on him.
 
2012-10-30 11:12:35 PM

Rincewind53: Yeah, it pretty much validates exactly what I thought had happened; cop made a mistake. Now, you can criticize him for pointing what he thought was an unloaded Taser at a kid in jest, but he clearly didn't mean to shoot the kid. But this is why gun safety rule number one is never point a gun at someone you don't intend to shoot.


Do you know what "I didn't realize it was loaded" really means?

"I was doing shiat I knew was wrong"

This is not jest, this is not a mistake.

This is criminal gross misconduct, assault and battery.
 
2012-10-30 11:13:59 PM

"Officer Chris Webb of the New Mexico Department of Public Safety is being sued in court after allegedly using his Taser-brand stun gun on a school playground to send 50,000 volts of electricity into a young boy's body, forcing the child to blackout."


Mistake or not the cop shouldn't be aiming tasers at anyone he's not going to use it on. Imagine if a citizen accidentally tasered someone. How likely would it be that you would have charges filed against you to let a jury decide your fate?

 
2012-10-30 11:14:10 PM

Rusty Shackleford: This is an outrage! There is no way a kid should be hit with a full Taser.

There needs to be some kind of half-power alternative available for law enforcement, teachers, crossing guards and older lawn owners to flourish. Maybe older siblings, too.


I always thought the invisible fences and shock collars should be available for use on (my) children who were a little difficult to manage. But never a full-power tazer. I reserve the use of those for dangerous criminals and those idiots in the power chairs and hoverounds who knock my ankles or block the aisles in the supermarket because they can't drive.
 
2012-10-30 11:14:18 PM

basemetal: That's assault and battery with a dangerous weapon even if it was an accident. Was the officer charged?


Apparantly so, and the kid was grounded.

This sounds more like an accident than anything. Bust his ass for being an idiot, maybe straight up fire him, but no jail time. Maybe some probation amf community service.
 
2012-10-30 11:15:35 PM

Rincewind53: Relatively Obscure: TSG's article is significantly better.

Yeah, it pretty much validates exactly what I thought had happened; cop made a mistake. Now, you can criticize him for pointing what he thought was an unloaded Taser at a kid in jest, but he clearly didn't mean to shoot the kid. But this is why gun safety rule number one is never point a gun at someone you don't intend to shoot.


It really doesn't matter to me for liability purposes whether he intended to shoot the kid in a malicious way or it was an accident. You don't point a weapon at child. You don't point a weapon at anyone if you're not planning to use it. This is what happens. What if it had been a real gun? They'll be cleaning chunks of his intestines from the sidewalk.
 
2012-10-30 11:15:37 PM

Rincewind53: Now, you can criticize him for pointing what he thought was an unloaded Taser at a kid in jest, but he clearly didn't mean to shoot the kid.


I can criticize him to taking the kid to the Principal's office for further punishment rather than allowing him to receive medical care.

Plus that's a farking lame excuse. If a civilian were to claim "I didn't know it was loaded" he would be in jail with no bail. This Officer won't even get paid leave.
 
2012-10-30 11:15:59 PM
I'm generally pro-cop (have worked with many who are now at the federal level, and my husband's best friend is a county one) who are all decent guys dealing with the scum of society. Yeah, there are corrupt and evil ones, but like someone mentioned in reference to disaster relief agencies, they do good frequently, they only get on the news when they F up.

This guy sounds like a moron who shouldn't be in charge of security at a mini-storage facility.
 
2012-10-30 11:16:22 PM
At what point do we start giving IQ tests to potential police officers? Oh wait, if we did that we wouldn't have any police officers. No one with two digits or more would take such a job.
 
2012-10-30 11:16:31 PM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: basemetal: That's assault and battery with a dangerous weapon even if it was an accident. Was the officer charged?

Apparantly so, and the kid was grounded.

This sounds more like an accident than anything. Bust his ass for being an idiot, maybe straight up fire him, but no jail time. Maybe some probation amf community service.


I dunno what I'd recommend, here. But if he legit pointed a weapon at someone on purpose, even if the discharge of it was likely accidental, I don't have much sympathy for him. He should certainly know better.
 
2012-10-30 11:18:15 PM
"Let me teach you what police officers in North Korea do in case you're ever there and asked to clean up a car!"
 
2012-10-30 11:18:20 PM
Weather or not the cop knew the taser was "loaded" he should be shiat canned.
 
2012-10-30 11:18:51 PM
So did the other 2 kids clean the officer's car or what?
 
2012-10-30 11:19:13 PM
Whatever the sentence is for the cop it should include 3 years of washing their family car once per week.
Maybe then next time he'll remember to check to see if it's loaded.
 
2012-10-30 11:19:45 PM

Relatively Obscure: This story, and one other I've read on this same site, strike me as ... odd.

I'm also only currently finding it on sites that could be considered questionable. Anyone have this from a solid source?


RT is the first Russian 24/7 English-language news channel which brings the Russian view on global news.

So, basically, crap?
 
2012-10-30 11:20:01 PM

Mixolydian Master: So did the other 2 kids clean the officer's car or what?


Damn straight they did. And fast.
 
2012-10-30 11:20:02 PM
That is a SERIOUS lapse in judgement. So much so, that I would think the powers that be would have to re-evaluate whether this clown is even responsible enough to carry a gun with a badge that gives him a broad berth to use it.
 
2012-10-30 11:20:40 PM
There's no 'accident' here.

The man does not deserve to wear that badge, or any other, ever again.

Furthermore, send him to PMITA prison.

Kids can be obnoxious little farkers, but you don't tase them til they're 18.
 
2012-10-30 11:20:52 PM
I would have just shot the kid.
 
2012-10-30 11:21:14 PM
"removed it from the holster not realizing I put the cartridge back on. The taser accidentally discharged hitting a boy directly in the chest."

Why is he not being charged with assault? What would a civilian be charged with if they 'accidentally' did this to a 10 year old, or any other person for that matter?


Webb added that he waited until the arrival of the student's mother, who agreed with the cop's suggestion to take the boy "to the doctor for safety precautions."

Webb added that the boy's mother "stated that she wasn't mad at what had happened."


Yes, getting mad at the the cop that just tased your kid for a bullshiat reason is the perfect thing to do. Once you tase the parent because they were all pissed off and screaming in your face, you can deflect accusations of your own incompetence more efficiently.
 
2012-10-30 11:22:10 PM

Relatively Obscure: I dunno what I'd recommend, here. But if he legit pointed a weapon at someone on purpose, even if the discharge of it was likely accidental, I don't have much sympathy for him. He should certainly know better.


If they don't fire them, then they should suspend him for a year, force him to take intensive weapons safety and training courses, and make him stand out on the main intersection of town with a sandwich sign saying "Never point a weapon at someone, even if you think it's not loaded, even if it's a joke. I should know. I used a Taser on a defenseless child" for a day in the summer sun. Then, if he still wants to be a cop, reinstate him with a babysitter.
 
2012-10-30 11:22:42 PM

TommyymmoT: Relatively Obscure: This story, and one other I've read on this same site, strike me as ... odd.

I'm also only currently finding it on sites that could be considered questionable. Anyone have this from a solid source?

The Smoking Gun


Fark is doing a shiatty job with greens today.
 
2012-10-30 11:22:49 PM

hlehmann: At what point do we start giving IQ tests to potential police officers? Oh wait, if we did that we wouldn't have any police officers. No one with two digits or more would take such a job.


Certain jurisdictions essentially do, and fire people who score too high.
 
2012-10-30 11:23:03 PM

andyofne: Relatively Obscure: This story, and one other I've read on this same site, strike me as ... odd.

I'm also only currently finding it on sites that could be considered questionable. Anyone have this from a solid source?

RT is the first Russian 24/7 English-language news channel which brings the Russian view on global news.

So, basically, crap?


I was wondering about this, but for a Russian journalist, it must be nice to report on news in a country that won't kill you for doing your job.
 
2012-10-30 11:23:10 PM
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You see what happens, R.D.? You see what happens when you REFUSE TO CLEAN AN OFFICER'S CAR?
 
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