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(Chicago Sun-Times)   Incentive-based education now moves on to parents, who are being bribed with $25 gift cards to pick up their children's report cards   (suntimes.com) divider line 20
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2012-10-30 09:45:09 PM
6 votes:
I have a better idea, let's bribe them not to have kids in the first place. Give them a lump sum payment or maybe a scholarship if they agree to get fixed. People who can't be bothered to care about their kids shouldn't be having them in the first place. We'll save a lot more money in the long run if they don't.
2012-10-30 09:30:46 PM
4 votes:
The father of one of my students never missed one of his son's basketball games (which is a good thing) but would never make it to a single parent-teacher conference. We even offered to meet him right before or after a game, but he would skip out on those too.
2012-10-30 09:32:43 PM
3 votes:
In the school district I'm in you can see your child's' grades at any time if you have access to a computer. If you do not have access to a computer, having a paper copy of your child's' report card sent home costs $10 dollars per child. And it really is a mere piece of paper rather than cardstock. I paid despite having a computer because I'm old, old-fashioned, and I wanted to see teacher calculated "final grades" for the given time period.
2012-10-30 08:43:35 PM
3 votes:
CPS tried paying students for grades (literally) a few years back under Arne Duncan. Didn't work all that well. They've floated the idea of merit pay for teachers, but they aren't interested. They've just now given out principal bonuses for school performance, so it'll be interesting to see how that works.

As for giving out gift cards to parents for report card pick-up, it's a futile gesture - report card pick-up happens during the day...people don't show up because they have jobs. CPS have even tried to mitigate that by having report card pick-up in the afternoon to early evening, but it doesn't work because the majority of CPS parents are not on 9-5 schedules.

Also doesn't help when the school your child is going to is an hour away by public transit because they've closed the local neighborhood school and you have to take 2 buses and a train to get there.
2012-10-30 09:53:25 PM
2 votes:

Heavyweight: odinsposse: Heavyweight: What about sending them home with the kids... Or mailing them? I've seen both used at my kids' shools.

The point of the report card pickup day is that it's an excuse for parents and teachers to get together and talk about how the kid is doing. If your kid is, say, failing English it's nice to have the teacher right there so you can ask why.

Do you think those parents would care either way? During the last parent teacher conference day I went to we were behind the same poor guy... Each teacher said the same thing about his lack of effort and how he could be doing well if he just tried. After the last conference as they were walking out the mother said under her breath "fark this shiat, if he wants to make something of himself he's going to have to do it by his damn self." I just remember thinking how little hope that kid has.

/anecdotal evidence I know


Some parents just don't care. Some parents care and the kids just don't care. Some parents and kids both care and the kid's just not good at school. Some parents care about one kid but have another kid who's a fark-up and he/she takes all their time. Or they have jobs that preclude them from parent-teacher conferences; or can't get a sitter the night that it's scheduled. There are so many permutations.

Maybe someday, we'll drop this idea that every kid has to go to college and become SOMETHING, and maybe it will become socially acceptable for people to be satisfied being auto mechanics or grocery store managers all their lives, if that's what they're happy doing and it provides a steady paycheck. Till then, we're stuck with bribing kids and parents to show up at schools and parent conferences and pushing kids to "make something" of themselves even if they don't want to or can't do it.
2012-10-30 09:44:35 PM
2 votes:

Brick-House: gajacks: The father of one of my students never missed one of his son's basketball games (which is a good thing) but would never make it to a single parent-teacher conference. We even offered to meet him right before or after a game, but he would skip out on those too.

He must have known his kid was a tard and just couldn't stand hearing it from others.


Maybe he was working class, so his family never benefited from schooling beyond the three R's. Some kids know that they'd be better off dropping out and apprenticing as an electrician with their dad or uncle's business, but stay in school because of the social pressure. When a C's as good as an A, and college is privatized out of a household's ability to pay for it, there's not much point to parent-teacher night.
2012-10-30 09:34:18 PM
2 votes:

Sargun: Solution: mail them. Seriously, shiat ain't hard.


There's also this new fangled thing called email. If that ever catches on, then they will be able to save the cost of postage.
2012-10-30 09:28:47 PM
2 votes:
Solution: mail them. Seriously, shiat ain't hard.
2012-10-30 09:01:38 PM
2 votes:
I see this all the time at work. People complain at how uninvolved parents are and then they have conferences at like 10 am. People freaking work. Have the things at like 7pm and you might get a different response.
2012-10-30 10:17:54 PM
1 votes:

leadmetal: gajacks: Teachers don't have 10 am meetings. That's when they are teaching. They have them in the evening when classes are over.

I say have teachers work as product development engineers for awhile. They'll go screaming back to teaching and their late afternoon meetings and summers off.


How about a switch - have the product engineers work as teachers for a while. I suspect the screaming and running will go in both directions.
2012-10-30 09:51:52 PM
1 votes:

Bennie Crabtree: naughtyrev: Also doesn't help when the school your child is going to is an hour away by public transit because they've closed the local neighborhood school and you have to take 2 buses and a train to get there.


Actually, it is widely accepted among education scholars that that problem began with the Clinton Administration's new rules that forced low income people to get part-time minimum wage jobs up to 2 hours away by bus, in one direction, if they were to receive any federal assistance. While the GOP's proposals were worse, Clinton was savage in his disembowelment of low income families' connection to parenting and schooling.But hey, his voter base loved it so why not? When Bush took over, the GOP made Clinton look like a centrist instead of a right winger, and so it is really hard for a sane person to criticize Slick Willie. Not impossible, but distasteful, y'know?


I'm not disputing your claim at all - those "reforms" were and are a serious failure of our social safety net - in Chicago, school closures are intimately tied to gentrification...both the new urban gentrification and the Clinton welfare to work models are based on neoliberal models of governance that have undermined urban education and have fed into and been fueled by notions that people have no idea what is best for themselves (I'm looking at you, WJ Wilson).
2012-10-30 09:43:16 PM
1 votes:

odinsposse: Heavyweight: What about sending them home with the kids... Or mailing them? I've seen both used at my kids' shools.

The point of the report card pickup day is that it's an excuse for parents and teachers to get together and talk about how the kid is doing. If your kid is, say, failing English it's nice to have the teacher right there so you can ask why.


Do you think those parents would care either way? During the last parent teacher conference day I went to we were behind the same poor guy... Each teacher said the same thing about his lack of effort and how he could be doing well if he just tried. After the last conference as they were walking out the mother said under her breath "fark this shiat, if he wants to make something of himself he's going to have to do it by his damn self." I just remember thinking how little hope that kid has.

/anecdotal evidence I know
2012-10-30 09:38:15 PM
1 votes:

gajacks: The father of one of my students never missed one of his son's basketball games (which is a good thing) but would never make it to a single parent-teacher conference. We even offered to meet him right before or after a game, but he would skip out on those too.


He must have known his kid was a tard and just couldn't stand hearing it from others.
2012-10-30 09:37:35 PM
1 votes:

naughtyrev: Also doesn't help when the school your child is going to is an hour away by public transit because they've closed the local neighborhood school and you have to take 2 buses and a train to get there.



Actually, it is widely accepted among education scholars that that problem began with the Clinton Administration's new rules that forced low income people to get part-time minimum wage jobs up to 2 hours away by bus, in one direction, if they were to receive any federal assistance. While the GOP's proposals were worse, Clinton was savage in his disembowelment of low income families' connection to parenting and schooling.But hey, his voter base loved it so why not? When Bush took over, the GOP made Clinton look like a centrist instead of a right winger, and so it is really hard for a sane person to criticize Slick Willie. Not impossible, but distasteful, y'know?
2012-10-30 09:35:48 PM
1 votes:
WTF. Back in the day I would have given anything for my mother not to pick up my report card when it was bad.
/I use to think white parents never gave 'whoopings' to their kids till my friend James got belted down a flight of stairs by his mother
//Hell K-8 teachers were aloud to hit you
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2012-10-30 09:32:15 PM
1 votes:
TFA said the Walgreens ceo "jumped at the chance". I doubt he jumped at the chance to give away thousands of dollars of inventory, so who is paying for these cards, the taxpayers?
2012-10-30 09:30:46 PM
1 votes:
How about using that new fangled interweb thingie...you can send to parent's via e-mail or better yet, text them to their Obama phones
2012-10-30 09:29:34 PM
1 votes:
I wonder which kid will let me pretend to be his parent so I can split the card with them.
2012-10-30 09:29:11 PM
1 votes:
What about sending them home with the kids... Or mailing them? I've seen both used at my kids' shools.
2012-10-30 09:28:35 PM
1 votes:
Teachers don't have 10 am meetings. That's when they are teaching. They have them in the evening when classes are over.
 
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