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(Deadline)   Fox is bringing Bryan Singer back to derail the X-Men franchise   (deadline.com) divider line 73
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2012-10-31 02:58:25 AM
The guy made two excellent Xmen movies and produced First Class. I think we can trust him to make a fantastic DOFP adaptation. But, by all means, do let the homophobic fanhole clusterfuss continue.
 
2012-10-31 05:40:38 AM
The people who continue to watch these movies are part of the problem. Hollywood wouldn't produce garbage if it didn't make a profit doing so.
 
2012-10-31 06:21:06 AM

poonesfarm: you are a puppet: Just let Rob Liefeld do it.

That could be interesting. Has anyone ever shot a film that went out of its way to not show the actors' feet?


Bizarro Tarantino?
 
2012-10-31 06:44:03 AM

ZeroCorpse: I have them all, but I really don't like any of them very well. The first is okay, but it's hindered greatly by Halle Berry's terrible acting, awful attempt at an accent, and clear contempt for the source material and intended audience. It's also damaged by a Jean Grey who isn't a redhead, but a brunette with poorly-dyed hair (and it's not even a natural-looking ginger color, but a fake, not-occurring in nature red/magenta/auburn).

The second one just goes off on a tangent. Suddenly Storm, a few weeks later, has no accent (what? Did the Professor erase it from her mind? Was she suffering from a speech impediment when she met Wolverine and Rogue? What the hell, Halle Berry? Do you even TRY to act when you're hired as an actress?) and Jean still has that fake bottle-dye job for her brunette hair. But then they introduce characters that become walking, talking cliches. Nightcrawler isn't furry, and is instead covered in angelic symbols (and promptly forgotten when this movie is over). And what's up with Jean's sacrifice at the end? They're about to be hit by an icy Canadian lake and they have ICEMAN on the plane. Couldn't he just stick a hand out the window and freeze enough of that already near-freezing water for them to get away? Why did he just sit there forgetting that his powers work REALLY WELL with cold water? He could have sealed the dam with ice. He could have stopped the lake from hitting the plane. He PROBABLY could have frozen the whole damned lake if he tried.

But no... We have to shoehorn Jean's sacrifice in there without actually using the Brood, or deep space, or anything cool. We'll just kill her with a lot of cold water.

I enjoyed the third one, even though it had the reek of the franchise on it, because at least it stopped trying to be so pose-a-riffic and just got to the action and fun. Sure, Halle got more lines (and she still sucked), but Kelsey Grammer was a good choice for Beast (and it was old-school, non-cat Beast, so kudos there) and Elle ...


1. I don't think Halle was attempting an accent in ANY of the movies. I don't even think they actually stated that Storm was supposed to be from Africa. (she was NY born/African raised in the comics).

2. Yeah Famke had a terrible dye job but as you described "but a fake, not-occurring in nature red/magenta/auburn" could easily be described as a side effect of MUTATION in the movie X-verse.

3. I don't think Iceman was powerful enough to do anything even if Jean wasn't probably blocking his powers.

4. Origins was shiat. First Class was good as long as you think of it as a reboot and not a prequel.

5. Hell yes they keep expecting you to go with the series. They all make a profit. Hell, you barely like them and you own them all. That's money for Fox. As soon as Joe Q. Public stops buying, that's when they'll have to shake them up.
 
2012-10-31 06:52:56 AM

spamdog: All the movies were horse shiat. Comic-book movie fans have to be the least objective movie critics ever.

No wonder the studios are humping superheroes to death. The movies are targeted at the mental level of an 8-year old, and all the die-hard fans are just way too eager to declare each movie to be a masterpiece.


Or worse: they go to see the movies in droves just to biatch about how bad they are. That doesn't
make the subsequent movies any better, but rather ensures that subsequent movies will be just as
bad and divergent from their source material.

The X-men cartoon series was seriously more mature and better constructed than the movies.

Which one? There have been so many.
 
2012-10-31 07:37:41 AM
X1 was boring as fark, the special effects weren't there either (that giant bubble looked lame as hell) and it was Wolverine & The X-Men, plus Berry's Storm idiotic delivery "You know what happens to a toad struck by lightining?" - "What?" - "The same thing that happens to everything else." *has a seizure*

X2 I haven't seen it since I was burned with the first, but the scenes I've watched, the special FX look good and there's more kickass action in it. I'll prolly watch it one of these days.

Obviously I didn't bother with X3....

Wolverine Origins looked terrible from the get go. Didn't bother.

First Class was AWESOME! I saw it because, well, no Wolverine at center stage (after four farking movies, that got old). Make me an instant fan of Fassbender. Props for non-Wanted McAvoy and pre-HungerGames Jennifer Lawrence. Hamming Bacon was great. LOL at January Jones though. Between this and Mad Men, that woman must be the most boring fark ever.
 
2012-10-31 07:43:05 AM

rocky_howard: X1 was boring as fark, the special effects weren't there either (that giant bubble looked lame as hell) and it was Wolverine & The X-Men, plus Berry's Storm idiotic delivery "You know what happens to a toad struck by lightining?" - "What?" - "The same thing that happens to everything else." *has a seizure*

X2 I haven't seen it since I was burned with the first, but the scenes I've watched, the special FX look good and there's more kickass action in it. I'll prolly watch it one of these days.

Obviously I didn't bother with X3....

Wolverine Origins looked terrible from the get go. Didn't bother.

First Class was AWESOME! I saw it because, well, no Wolverine at center stage (after four farking movies, that got old). Make me an instant fan of Fassbender. Props for non-Wanted McAvoy and pre-HungerGames Jennifer Lawrence. Hamming Bacon was great. LOL at January Jones though. Between this and Mad Men, that woman must be the most boring fark ever.


How could you be sick of "Wolverine at center stage" if you only saw one of the movies?
 
2012-10-31 08:06:26 AM

Sasquach: How could you be sick of "Wolverine at center stage" if you only saw one of the movies?


1.- Where did I say I was "sick" of it?

2.- No need to see all four movies to not want them to be a Wolverine fest... I didn't want that after seeing just the first. Especially with how they treated Cyclops. fark those movies.
 
2012-10-31 08:17:27 AM

rocky_howard: Sasquach: How could you be sick of "Wolverine at center stage" if you only saw one of the movies?

1.- Where did I say I was "sick" of it?

2.- No need to see all four movies to not want them to be a Wolverine fest... I didn't want that after seeing just the first. Especially with how they treated Cyclops. fark those movies.


You said it got old. That's pretty synonymous with "sick" of it. Pretty odd after one movie unless you just don't like Wolverine in general. That's understandable as he is farking everywhere in the comics.
 
2012-10-31 08:39:25 AM

MagSeven: You said it got old. That's pretty synonymous with "sick" of it. Pretty odd after one movie unless you just don't like Wolverine in general. That's understandable as he is farking everywhere in the comics.


Like I said, I don't have to see all four movies to know they were Wolverine-centric. And the fourth one was named Wolverine.

And I do like Wolverine, but turning these team movies into his spotlight was a bad move. It's okay if they make solo movies with him, but on the team movies showcase the damn team, especially his leader. But yes, Wolverine is farking everywhere lol
 
2012-10-31 10:05:00 AM
Great. More leather costumes and whining about not being accepted. I farking HATE the X-Men.

/lee and kirby's original run, aside.
 
2012-10-31 10:07:23 AM
Film "Age of Apocalypse".
 
2012-10-31 10:39:30 AM

ZeroCorpse: I have them all, but I really don't like any of them very well. The first is okay, but it's hindered greatly by Halle Berry's terrible acting, awful attempt at an accent, and clear contempt for the source material and intended audience. It's also damaged by a Jean Grey who isn't a redhead, but a brunette with poorly-dyed hair (and it's not even a natural-looking ginger color, but a fake, not-occurring in nature red/magenta/auburn).

The second one just goes off on a tangent. Suddenly Storm, a few weeks later, has no accent (what? Did the Professor erase it from her mind? Was she suffering from a speech impediment when she met Wolverine and Rogue? What the hell, Halle Berry? Do you even TRY to act when you're hired as an actress?) and Jean still has that fake bottle-dye job for her brunette hair. But then they introduce characters that become walking, talking cliches. Nightcrawler isn't furry, and is instead covered in angelic symbols (and promptly forgotten when this movie is over). And what's up with Jean's sacrifice at the end? They're about to be hit by an icy Canadian lake and they have ICEMAN on the plane. Couldn't he just stick a hand out the window and freeze enough of that already near-freezing water for them to get away? Why did he just sit there forgetting that his powers work REALLY WELL with cold water? He could have sealed the dam with ice. He could have stopped the lake from hitting the plane. He PROBABLY could have frozen the whole damned lake if he tried.

But no... We have to shoehorn Jean's sacrifice in there without actually using the Brood, or deep space, or anything cool. We'll just kill her with a lot of cold water.

I enjoyed the third one, even though it had the reek of the franchise on it, because at least it stopped trying to be so pose-a-riffic and just got to the action and fun. Sure, Halle got more lines (and she still sucked), but Kelsey Grammer was a good choice for Beast (and it was old-school, non-cat Beast, so kudos there) and Elle ...


So let me get this correct; The bit which destroys your believe in a woman mutant with potentially unlimited telekinetic and psychic powers is the colour of her hair?
 
2012-10-31 11:21:55 AM

poonesfarm: you are a puppet: Just let Rob Liefeld do it.

That could be interesting. Has anyone ever shot a film that went out of its way to not show the actors' feet? And the wardrobe and prop departments're gonna have quite a challenge fitting all those pouches onto the outfits and making ridiculously oversized guns.


Liefeld as producer, Tarantino as director. The antimatter collision should implode Hollywood.
 
2012-10-31 11:32:03 AM

robohobo: Great. More leather costumes and whining about not being accepted. I farking HATE the X-Men.

/lee and kirby's original run, aside.


LOL, you're such a poser. Nobody liked Lee/Kirby's run. It was abysmal, meaningless, completely lacking of any edge, lazy-ass storytelling. Heck, even Stan Lee said he made them mutants because he didn't want to come up with an origin.

The origina X-Men run only got a bit interesting when Neal Adams came aboard, but then, it was too little, too late.
 
2012-10-31 12:50:46 PM

Fano: poonesfarm: you are a puppet: Just let Rob Liefeld do it.

That could be interesting. Has anyone ever shot a film that went out of its way to not show the actors' feet? And the wardrobe and prop departments're gonna have quite a challenge fitting all those pouches onto the outfits and making ridiculously oversized guns.

Liefeld as producer, Tarantino as director. The antimatter collision should implode Hollywood.


I've pushed Tarantino as director. No more wussy Wolverine or Cyclops. Full out Kill Bill.
 
2012-10-31 01:39:09 PM
i think they should make the next movie based on the NES game

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directed by LJN and starring shia lepoof
 
2012-10-31 02:23:53 PM

I drunk what: i think they should make the next movie based on the NES game

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directed by LJN and starring shia lepoof


Heh, just watched the AVGN episode on X-Men games last night.
 
2012-10-31 03:06:26 PM
Zerocorpse:

I have them all, but I really don't like any of them very well. The first is okay, but it's hindered greatly by Halle Berry's terrible acting, awful attempt at an accent, and clear contempt for the source material and intended audience. It's also damaged by a Jean Grey who isn't a redhead, but a brunette with poorly-dyed hair (and it's not even a natural-looking ginger color, but a fake, not-occurring in nature red/magenta/auburn).

Berry's attempt at an accent was poorly conceived, but easily overlooked. Jean Grey casting was also a mistake, as Famke is easily older than poor James Marsden. But I think they did a solid job overcoming the difference in the 2nd movie.


The second one just goes off on a tangent. Suddenly Storm, a few weeks later, has no accent (what? Did the Professor erase it from her mind? Was she suffering from a speech impediment when she met Wolverine and Rogue? What the hell, Halle Berry? Do you even TRY to act when you're hired as an actress?) and Jean still has that fake bottle-dye job for her brunette hair. But then they introduce characters that become walking, talking cliches. Nightcrawler isn't furry, and is instead covered in angelic symbols (and promptly forgotten when this movie is over). And what's up with Jean's sacrifice at the end? They're about to be hit by an icy Canadian lake and they have ICEMAN on the plane. Couldn't he just stick a hand out the window and freeze enough of that already near-freezing water for them to get away? Why did he just sit there forgetting that his powers work REALLY WELL with cold water? He could have sealed the dam with ice. He could have stopped the lake from hitting the plane. He PROBABLY could have frozen the whole damned lake if he tried.

The comics during the 70's-where this story was originally taken-is that Iceman is a goofball who doesnt understand how powerful he actually is. There is a future comic where Sabretooth taunts Iceman for being a coward for not embracing his Omega-level power. So one could make a case that a teenage Iceman would not be comfortable with his powers at this time.


I enjoyed the third one, even though it had the reek of the franchise on it, because at least it stopped trying to be so pose-a-riffic and just got to the action and fun. Sure, Halle got more lines (and she still sucked), but Kelsey Grammer was a good choice for Beast (and it was old-school, non-cat Beast, so kudos there) and Ellen Page was a great Kitty Pryde. Still, the story was stupid and the bad guys were all so disposable it was pathetic.

They used almost all of the worst bad guys! The whole story was rushed and ridiculous-the lack of Collosus-Juggernaut's natural opponent-was disturbing to say the least.

Origins: Wolverine was terrible. Just plain awful. It was as if people who didn't like the X-Men threw a bunch of names and powers into a blender with a previously-written bad movie, and came up with that crappy excuse for a superhero flick. I try to forget I saw it at all.

Origins is tough to watch. Danny Huston's ridiculous overacting, the reduction of Maverick to a simple, no-feeling hitman, the nonsensical addition of Blob and Will I Am, the pussyfication of Wolverine's backstory....all makes we wish they never made it.

First Class was full of plot holes, inconsistencies, and just plain stupid characterizations. Ages were all screwed up (Alex Summers, Scott's younger brother, is twenty years older than Scott?), relationships were established when they made no sense (Mystique as Charles' best friend and roomy? COME ON!), and the villains were, once again, sadly disposable and had no real logic to their plans. People switched sides for stupid reasons. Characters died purely for shock value. The end was a total clusterfark that pissed on the series' own continuity in at least half a dozen different ways.


First class was also an almost total disaster in my mind. I couldnt agree with you more with regard to First Class. Humanizing Mystique is an abomination of her character. Plus, there wasnt a need to change the relationships-what was the point. Then they use a newer character-Darwin-and cant even get it right that his mutant power makes him immortal.

So they want me to keep going with this series? ARE THEY SERIOUS?

Just sell the mutants back to Marvel, guys. Fox has shown that they don't care to make decent movies that don't insult the audience where the X-Men are concerned. Just because we're comic fans doesn't mean we're mouth-breathing idiots who don't recognize a soulless money-grab when we see it.

Singer on board does give me hope.  I will give them one last chance.
 
2012-10-31 08:19:46 PM

torr5962: [Wall of Text]


I agree with everything Zerocorpse posted and some of what you posted but I've just got to say: There is no way they can keep abusing this title like this. It wouldn't be so bad if it appeared that they put ANY thought whatsoever into the fact that they were going to need to make more than one farking X-men movie. Each movie is a disaster of an island, practically isolated from whatever the fark happens in the other movies. They tried to shoehorn as many characters as they possibly could into each installment, and while a few of them were actually good/great (Hugh as Wolvie, Kelsey as Beast, Page as Pride, McKellen as Magneto, hell I'll even throw in Park as Toad), the rest were all farking awful. Poorly casted, worse development and writing, it was a farking trainwreck.

If they'd start taking the movies even a little bit seriously, sit down, and come up with a plan instead of just winging it every goddamn movie with hack directors, they MIGHT be able to redeem themselves. In my honest opinion, that franchise needs to be pried away from Fox and returned to Marvel just for making it a farking mockery. Zero's statement about Iceman with the Dam at the end of whichever shiatty X-movie that was is spot farking on. The idiots behind those movies have absolutely no clue what the farking source material is, which is why each one was progressively worse. They either didn't know or didn't care, I'm betting on both. So fark 'em. Give the rights to somebody that doesn't want to just squat on them.
 
2012-11-01 02:32:53 PM
In my honest opinion, that franchise needs to be pried away from Fox and returned to Marvel just for making it a farking mockery.

Agreed. But what Marvel has been doing to their books is in the same vein of nonsense. I would vote for a movie that takes very little time to backstory and makes the viewer catchup. Tell a good story should still be number 1 for movie making--but these people have seemed to forget.
 
2012-11-01 02:40:25 PM

torr5962: In my honest opinion, that franchise needs to be pried away from Fox and returned to Marvel just for making it a farking mockery.

Agreed. But what Marvel has been doing to their books is in the same vein of nonsense. I would vote for a movie that takes very little time to backstory and makes the viewer catchup. Tell a good story should still be number 1 for movie making--but these people have seemed to forget.


Nice attempt at a deflection, but "Marvel's done some pretty crazy stuff lately with their comics" doesn't excuse Fox making Mystique Prof. X's girlfriend. Or Cyclops younger than his little brother. Or Deadpool having laser eyes and sword arms. Or Juggernaught (Prof. X' half-brother and non-mutant) a mutant just so they could take his powers away in an incredibly stupid moment.
 
2012-11-01 02:43:24 PM

mooseyfate: torr5962: In my honest opinion, that franchise needs to be pried away from Fox and returned to Marvel just for making it a farking mockery.

Agreed. But what Marvel has been doing to their books is in the same vein of nonsense. I would vote for a movie that takes very little time to backstory and makes the viewer catchup. Tell a good story should still be number 1 for movie making--but these people have seemed to forget.

Nice attempt at a deflection, but "Marvel's done some pretty crazy stuff lately with their comics" doesn't excuse Fox making Mystique Prof. X's girlfriend. Or Cyclops younger than his little brother. Or Deadpool having laser eyes and sword arms. Or Juggernaught (Prof. X' half-brother and non-mutant) a mutant just so they could take his powers away in an incredibly stupid moment.


Sorry, I hit "post" before I intended to. Anyways, all of that stuff up above (and about a million other things not listed) are prime examples of not knowing about the source material and not givin a flying fark about the people that do. It's laziness. Marvel's madness comes from trying too hard, something no one at Fox has ever been accused of. There is a difference.
 
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