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(National Review)   NRO: "Does anyone else find it deliciously ironic that Hurricane Sandy has forced the suspension of the Obama campaign?" People capable of human emotion: "Considering the death toll is at 38 and climbing, no, not really"   (nationalreview.com) divider line 354
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2012-10-30 11:33:11 PM
Artist's depiction of me during this thread:

i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-10-30 11:37:17 PM

thomps: ftfa: Meanwhile Romney gets to hold the ball and run down the clock;

and on top of all the other ridiculousness, he sincerely believes romney is winning.


I LOL'd at this too. This is the equivalent of being down by 7 with under a minute to play and running a draw play from your own 3 yard line.
 
2012-10-30 11:51:04 PM

juniperwasting: My simply reply --

@NROcorner do you really see everything through the eye of an election? The President has a job to do. #NROscumbags

To think that the carbon used to make this farking asshole could have been something useful, like a pencil.


HA I love a good physics joke.

/seriously I do
//yes im a nerd
 
2012-10-30 11:57:04 PM
man,they'll give anybody a web page, won't they?
 
2012-10-31 12:05:04 AM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: "____ is Obama's Katrina" being toted out for the first two years of his presidency for every little thing gave me the impression that they were not just gonna celebrate if something actually did happen, but wanted something terrible to happen on his watch


But you know what? This is Obama's Katrina! Th two storms were very different, of course, but in terms of impact they were in the same league. And how did Obama's Katrina differ from Bush's Katrina? Well, it's still too early to say, of course - theres still plenty of time for an epic cock-up - but so far, the response to Sandy has been quick, appropriate, and well organized. In other words, everything that Bush's Katrina was not.
 
2012-10-31 12:05:10 AM
Douchebags got to douche their Sandy vajayjays it seems.

It says more about the folks who are pleased that people died and are trying to get their lives together, than the President who is doing his damn job. Then again, it's not like Romney has any responsibilities to take care of during this time.
 
2012-10-31 12:17:04 AM

InmanRoshi: Ugh, you're talking about people who throw money into the faces of people afflicted with Parkinson's. People who scream from the audience "Let Them Die" when questions concerning the uninsured ill are brought up in GOP Debates. People who vocally boo armed servicemen who have defended our country because of who they love.


Is becoming increasingly difficult to tell the difference between a Republican and a clinically diagnosed sociopath.


THIS! And isn't it a farking shame?
 
2012-10-31 12:25:41 AM
The death toll is more than 38. People who aren't American still count as people.
 
2012-10-31 12:49:56 AM

mrshowrules: TV's Vinnie:

Or as I do, take names for future laughing at once the election is over and Obama wins his second term.

Ya, that didn't work out well for me. I took screen captures of the people saying that Obamacare was going to be ruled unconstitutional. When it was upheld I would post them back in related threads but my posts got thrown out by the mods.

This post could very well be thrown out just for mentioning that but I will stay on topic by saying that Fartbama is actually doing a pretty good job with the hurricane response.


Why would a screencap get thrown out?
 
2012-10-31 12:51:43 AM

Churchy LaFemme: [i46.tinypic.com image 500x364]


nice touch with the ashtray full of cigarettes.
but nice cartoon overall.
 
2012-10-31 12:51:51 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Why would a screencap get thrown out?


Because mentioning other Farkers not in a thread let alone rubbing sh*t in their faces with their own words is actually against the TOS here.

Yeah I know.
 
2012-10-31 12:52:50 AM

ndubyaj: The death toll is more than 38. People who aren't American still count as people.


Dont forget the 300 mexicans who died as a result of Obamas 'fast and furious' operation.

And the 4 americans in Libya who died while killing over 60 Jihadists while obama sat and watched.

and the thousands of Military service personnel in Afghanistan who have died under his command with no clear path to victory and no right to defend themselves.

And the afghan civilians he has killed with predator drone strikes by accident.

Nah, if there wasnt a chance to look presidential and score some polling points he wouldnt even notice a storm that killed 40 or more people.

Unless it was on someone elses watch.....Like Bush....then Obama would be the first in front of a camera yelling about blacks drowning in New Orleans. Nevermind the fact that Democrats were and always have been in charge of New Orleans, and left the poor in the 9th ward to die because it was too much effort to force them to evacuate.
 
2012-10-31 12:53:20 AM
Times like this make me think of old words of wisdom from my dad: better to keep your mouth shut and be thought of as an asshat than to open your mouth and prove it to the world.

/Stolen, but his is funnier
//Most recent quote: "What happened to the north wall?"
 
2012-10-31 12:55:41 AM

x23: palladiate: Is this the thread where we chastise libby libs for their hypocritical glee at Isaac hammering the RNC? Or is that a few down?

can you remind me again how many people at the RNC were killed due to Hurricane Isaac? thanks!

conservative sure do seem to get a hard-on for people dying. disgusting.


That wasn't palladiate's point. Palladiate's point is that gloating over misfortune and 'the hand of god' is not exclusive to one party. Death tolls are not what matter; seeing opportunity and 'proof the fates love us' in misfortune is what matters.

Goalposts were moved by libtards in this thread, including several 'we were just kidding no one took us seriously' type posts... the same type of 'you can't take a joke' posts which the same libtards would have eviscerated (rightly) the right for engaging in. That's all.

Palladiate, if I ain't on your ignore list and yet I got you wrong on this one, you can slap me at your leisure and pleasure.
 
2012-10-31 12:56:42 AM

archichris: ndubyaj: The death toll is more than 38. People who aren't American still count as people.

Dont forget the 300 mexicans who died as a result of Obamas 'fast and furious' operation.

And the 4 americans in Libya who died while killing over 60 Jihadists while obama sat and watched.

and the thousands of Military service personnel in Afghanistan who have died under his command with no clear path to victory and no right to defend themselves.

And the afghan civilians he has killed with predator drone strikes by accident.

Nah, if there wasnt a chance to look presidential and score some polling points he wouldnt even notice a storm that killed 40 or more people.

Unless it was on someone elses watch.....Like Bush....then Obama would be the first in front of a camera yelling about blacks drowning in New Orleans. Nevermind the fact that Democrats were and always have been in charge of New Orleans, and left the poor in the 9th ward to die because it was too much effort to force them to evacuate.


So I'm assuming you haven't had a good night's sleep in years since you are obviously distraught over the hundreds of thousands of innocent people GWB killed in Iraq?
 
2012-10-31 12:56:56 AM

archichris: ndubyaj: The death toll is more than 38. People who aren't American still count as people.

Dont forget the 300 mexicans who died as a result of Obamas 'fast and furious' operation.

And the 4 americans in Libya who died while killing over 60 Jihadists while obama sat and watched.

and the thousands of Military service personnel in Afghanistan who have died under his command with no clear path to victory and no right to defend themselves.

And the afghan civilians he has killed with predator drone strikes by accident.

Nah, if there wasnt a chance to look presidential and score some polling points he wouldnt even notice a storm that killed 40 or more people.

Unless it was on someone elses watch.....Like Bush....then Obama would be the first in front of a camera yelling about blacks drowning in New Orleans. Nevermind the fact that Democrats were and always have been in charge of New Orleans, and left the poor in the 9th ward to die because it was too much effort to force them to evacuate.


I would pray for you to loose your head from the trappings of your anus.


I, unfortunately, am atheist. Your farking head can stay up there for all I care.
 
2012-10-31 12:57:45 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: mrshowrules: TV's Vinnie:

Or as I do, take names for future laughing at once the election is over and Obama wins his second term.

Ya, that didn't work out well for me. I took screen captures of the people saying that Obamacare was going to be ruled unconstitutional. When it was upheld I would post them back in related threads but my posts got thrown out by the mods.

This post could very well be thrown out just for mentioning that but I will stay on topic by saying that Fartbama is actually doing a pretty good job with the hurricane response.

Why would a screencap get thrown out?


And what has he done besides the same damn thing every president does? They all send in Fema and say they will cut red tape. The only difference in outcome is the people in the disaster area. If they are capable, they will dig themselves out with local support and federal money.

If they are incapable they will sit in their FEMA trailers and expect a forever handout. FEMA is actually very small, more of a coordination bureaucracy than anything else.

When severe weather devastated a small Ky community last summer, local people marshaled support and got food and clothes and shelter to the effected before the President even acknowledged it had happened. The red cross showed up looking for donations and found locals already laundering donated clothes and packing care boxes and coordinating relief. Since no one was sitting around complaining the press packed up and left. Story over.
 
2012-10-31 12:59:18 AM

palladiate: Aaron Haynes: Thanks for being a jerk and generalizing, though
A Dark Evil Omen: the rightists
neenerist: straw boy
cryinoutloud: But like the guy right below you said--you probably don't have a very good sense of perspective.
ultraholland: Yes, it is. You'll look like a farking idiot for doing so but be my guest.

Holy mother of all things, I was being freaking sarcastic about Republican hypocrisy over this. I thought that was apparent :(




Well, I guess I rad you wrong, anyway. Here's the whip, Boss.
 
2012-10-31 01:00:27 AM

Weaver95: Mentat: Farking sociopaths.

But it does explain a few things, don't it?


It explains everything. The entire Republican ideology makes perfect sense when you realize that it was devised by sociopaths who believe maximizing profit is the only worthwhile pursuit in life.
 
2012-10-31 01:02:24 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I wouldn't say it was gleeful or happy. But sometimes these pundits forget there is real life out there and just focus on politics like it's a game. Saw the same thing but from a different agile on MSN when they were going from depressed that Obama was off the trail to happy that he can now look all Presidential right before the election. At least Rush wasn't being bi-polar.

I don't doubt these people's humanity, I do however doubt their sense of prospective


It used to be that reporting and polling were separate, AND the reporters went out of their way to prove that. Actually, now that I consider it, Editor and Reporter used to have a traditional barrier.

Times Change
 
2012-10-31 01:06:07 AM

Pincy: archichris: ndubyaj: The death toll is more than 38. People who aren't American still count as people.

Dont forget the 300 mexicans who died as a result of Obamas 'fast and furious' operation.

And the 4 americans in Libya who died while killing over 60 Jihadists while obama sat and watched.

and the thousands of Military service personnel in Afghanistan who have died under his command with no clear path to victory and no right to defend themselves.

And the afghan civilians he has killed with predator drone strikes by accident.

Nah, if there wasnt a chance to look presidential and score some polling points he wouldnt even notice a storm that killed 40 or more people.

Unless it was on someone elses watch.....Like Bush....then Obama would be the first in front of a camera yelling about blacks drowning in New Orleans. Nevermind the fact that Democrats were and always have been in charge of New Orleans, and left the poor in the 9th ward to die because it was too much effort to force them to evacuate.

So I'm assuming you haven't had a good night's sleep in years since you are obviously distraught over the hundreds of thousands of innocent people GWB killed in Iraq?


fireside68: archichris: ndubyaj: The death toll is more than 38. People who aren't American still count as people.

Dont forget the 300 mexicans who died as a result of Obamas 'fast and furious' operation.

And the 4 americans in Libya who died while killing over 60 Jihadists while obama sat and watched.

and the thousands of Military service personnel in Afghanistan who have died under his command with no clear path to victory and no right to defend themselves.

And the afghan civilians he has killed with predator drone strikes by accident.

Nah, if there wasnt a chance to look presidential and score some polling points he wouldnt even notice a storm that killed 40 or more people.

Unless it was on someone elses watch.....Like Bush....then Obama would be the first in front of a camera yelling about blacks drowning in New Orleans. Nevermind the fact that Democrats were and always have been in charge of New Orleans, and left the poor in the 9th ward to die because it was too much effort to force them to evacuate.

I would pray for you to loose your head from the trappings of your anus.


I, unfortunately, am atheist. Your farking head can stay up there for all I care.


Your both funny. The number of Iraqis killed in the actual invasion....the part that everyone who supported the ouster of Saddam is morally responsible for.....which includes hundreds of US members of congress and a majority of the polled population.....were pretty small. The inflated numbers of deaths come from the rebuilding phase. Attempting to sort out the responsible parties in that clusterfark would be stupid and more of a waste of time than asking you why you are obsessed with prayer and buttholes. If you only attempt to parse it into four sides then the US is only responsible for the deaths its soldiers inflicted in the rebuilding, not the suicide bombing deaths or the civil war. Which were again pretty small compared to the whole.

What bush did not do was implement policies which targeted civilians or relied on civilian deaths as a way of measuring a supposed law enforcement program as in fast and furious.

Deaths from warfare can be bad, but if there is more than one side, blame must be shared. The Mexicans who were killed with Obamas weapons that walked might not even have any connection to any violence. Like the party of teenagers who were slaughtered.

Remember all those legends of evil military tests on blacks in the cold war.....? Is there really any difference between poisoning a black soldier for science.......and sending weapons into mexico in the hands of the worst of the worst to see who gets killed and where? Logistically yes, morally no.
 
2012-10-31 01:09:33 AM
I've got a better idea. How about you farking do your job and take care of them?
 
2012-10-31 01:09:34 AM
"Considering the death toll is at 38"

or as they say in New York...the number of people murdered on a VERY SLOW Sunday Morning.
 
2012-10-31 01:16:34 AM

namatad: Empty Matchbook: Remember: Obama "abandoning" his campaign to actually be presidential and deal with a crisis in a way befitting his office is going to make voters LESS LIKELY to vote for him because he's not "actively campaigning."

You might be right. But in the end, it makes me respect President Obama even more.
This is a trivial choice for him. You do your job. Period. If you lose the election, because you did the right thing and did your job, then 1) you didnt deserve the reelection and 2) god help us as a nation.

In the end, I think that Sandy pretty much nails his reelection. People with hearts will be able to look and see that he is the man that they want when the shiat hits the fan. Not some toad who is worried about photo-ops.


I was in full-on sarcasm mode since THIS seems to be the narrative. I mean I just saw a headline saying "When is the right time to restart the campaigns?" with pictures of Obama and, for some reason, Romney. Since that implies he ever STOPPED.
 
2012-10-31 01:20:56 AM

archichris: Pincy: archichris: ndubyaj: The death toll is more than 38. People who aren't American still count as people.

Dont forget the 300 mexicans who died as a result of Obamas 'fast and furious' operation.

And the 4 americans in Libya who died while killing over 60 Jihadists while obama sat and watched.

and the thousands of Military service personnel in Afghanistan who have died under his command with no clear path to victory and no right to defend themselves.

And the afghan civilians he has killed with predator drone strikes by accident.

Nah, if there wasnt a chance to look presidential and score some polling points he wouldnt even notice a storm that killed 40 or more people.

Unless it was on someone elses watch.....Like Bush....then Obama would be the first in front of a camera yelling about blacks drowning in New Orleans. Nevermind the fact that Democrats were and always have been in charge of New Orleans, and left the poor in the 9th ward to die because it was too much effort to force them to evacuate.

So I'm assuming you haven't had a good night's sleep in years since you are obviously distraught over the hundreds of thousands of innocent people GWB killed in Iraq?

fireside68: archichris: ndubyaj: The death toll is more than 38. People who aren't American still count as people.

Dont forget the 300 mexicans who died as a result of Obamas 'fast and furious' operation.

And the 4 americans in Libya who died while killing over 60 Jihadists while obama sat and watched.

and the thousands of Military service personnel in Afghanistan who have died under his command with no clear path to victory and no right to defend themselves.

And the afghan civilians he has killed with predator drone strikes by accident.

Nah, if there wasnt a chance to look presidential and score some polling points he wouldnt even notice a storm that killed 40 or more people.

Unless it was on someone elses watch.....Like Bush....then Obama would be the first in front of a camera yelling abo ...


There were quite a few civilian deaths in Iraq/Afghanistan when bush was in office, but rather than call it for what it is they were labeled insurgents or terrorists. And why does everyone keep bringing up the embassy attack? Yes it is tragic, but in conflict-ridden countries, embassies do get attacked. During practically every president's terms embassies have been attacked. It is an unfortunate consequence of being active in the world.

Furthermore Fast and Furious, while a colossal fark-up cannot solely be laid at Obama's feet. Look at some pictures of confiscated cartel weapons and money; they can get weaponry with or without the help of incompetent federal agencies. It wasn't very well thought out, but at the end of the day the intention was to see how weapons get trafficked from the U.S. into the hands of the cartels.
 
2012-10-31 02:13:43 AM
...this is the talking point? That Obama canceled his campaign stops to go be the President? Wow, what hydrocephalic rape-baby with half a coat hanger sticking out of his head over at the RNC banged that one out?

I would have figured the talking point would be "Obama's only working overtime on hurricane relief because the election's a week away, and only cares so far as it will help get him re-elected".
 
2012-10-31 02:51:29 AM

Jackson Herring: "go fart on a dick"


Jackson Herring: Fark is not your personal erotica site


Just sayin'
 
2012-10-31 02:52:10 AM

archichris: Your both funny. The number of Iraqis killed in the actual invasion....the part that everyone who supported the ouster of Saddam is morally responsible for.....which includes hundreds of US members of congress and a majority of the polled population.....were pretty small. The inflated numbers of deaths come from the rebuilding phase. Attempting to sort out the responsible parties in that clusterfark would be stupid and more of a waste of time than asking you why you are obsessed with prayer and buttholes. If you only attempt to parse it into four sides then the US is only responsible for the deaths its soldiers inflicted in the rebuilding, not the suicide bombing deaths or the civil war. Which were again pretty small compared to the whole.


You seem to be forgetting one important point: HE LIED US INTO A FARKING WAR.

He and his lying-crony buddies are responsible for all the deaths because it didn't have to happen in the first place.

You don't get to create your own history.
 
2012-10-31 03:24:09 AM

Jackson Herring: Bloody William: Eat all the dicks, you shiathead.

By the way you might not have gotten the word yet but the new thing is "go fart on a dick"


I dunno. The phrase lacks a certain. . .zaz. It smacks of something a little kid would say to get giggles from his friends or to get attention from an unsuspecting adult. There's no scale do it. I mean "eat a bag of dicks" suggests a certain unpleasant volume. And of course, actually eating a dick is somewhat unusual, to put it mildly.. What is the big deal about farting on a dick? Could happen any time you tickle someone on your lap. Oooo, a dick was in some sort of proximity to an anus when flatus occurred. Big whoop.

No. I don't see that phrase getting much traction. I find it unpoetic, bland, and lacking in imagery.
 
2012-10-31 03:30:53 AM

archichris: The inflated numbers of deaths come from the rebuilding phase.


...and why the fark did the US "have" to rebuild Iraq again?
 
2012-10-31 03:48:02 AM

that bosnian sniper: archichris: The inflated numbers of deaths come from the rebuilding phase.

...and why the fark did the US "have" to rebuild Iraq again?


lol 2013 and we still have "Bush was justified" trolling.

That's some fine staying power there, Lou.
 
2012-10-31 05:05:27 AM
Let's see:

Nate Silver has Obama victory up to 78%. Sam Wang has him at above 95%. Clearly this is killing Obama.
 
2012-10-31 05:39:56 AM
Nailed it.
 
2012-10-31 05:43:35 AM

Marcus Aurelius: palladiate: Is this the thread where we chastise libby libs for their hypocritical glee at Isaac hammering the RNC? Or is that a few down?

You're in an alternate universe where Isaac actually hit Tampa. We're over here in the real world where Isaac veered off into Mississippi.

But yay, dead people, amirite?


You forget that Isaac hunkered down and pissed all over New Orleans for three straight days. The power was off for five days. She was no Katrina, but it definitely sucked balls.

As for, "Yay, dead people!," this has always disgusted me. A STORM IS NOT TO BE POLITICIZED. These are real people with real problems. That anyone chooses to mine for political capital on the backs of the suffering disgusts me. Yes, Democrats did it too in 2005.

The media and politics in this country are just off the hook. Let's not extend our hands in the spirit of cooperation. Let's make political hay!

Dicks.
 
2012-10-31 05:45:30 AM

thomps: ftfa: Meanwhile Romney gets to hold the ball and run down the clock;

and on top of all the other ridiculousness, he sincerely believes romney is winning.


"Hold the ball and run down the clock." Looks like NRO cleaned up their first idea for an analogy.

Say it a few times. Now say it like a 1900 number ad.
 
2012-10-31 05:49:01 AM

BMulligan: bugontherug: Conservative = sociopath.

Oh, I don't think that's completely fair...

Noam Chimpsky: Millions of people have died during Obama's presidency. People die. Probably more people would have died in that region if the storm hadn't hit, so it was a net life saver.

...never mind.


Hey bro, sorry I missed this post last night. Wasn't trying to ignore you. Just didn't see it.
 
2012-10-31 05:52:19 AM

thamike: thomps: ftfa: Meanwhile Romney gets to hold the ball and run down the clock;

and on top of all the other ridiculousness, he sincerely believes romney is winning.

"Hold the ball and run down the clock." Looks like NRO cleaned up their first idea for an analogy.

Say it a few times. Now say it like a 1900 number ad.


Do they know that running out the clock is what teams do when they're ahead? Mitt's taking a knee while he's still down by a touchdown.
 
2012-10-31 05:54:14 AM

stoli n coke: Do they know that running out the clock is what teams do when they're ahead? Mitt's taking a knee while he's still down by a touchdown.


'Conservatives' don't know anything about football. I think they spend most of their time watching cars turn left.
 
2012-10-31 05:59:17 AM

Divinegrace: "Considering the death toll is at 38"

or as they say in New York...the number of people murdered on a VERY SLOW Sunday Morning.


1975 called. It wants its New York back.
 
2012-10-31 06:11:13 AM

thamike: Divinegrace: "Considering the death toll is at 38"

or as they say in New York...the number of people murdered on a VERY SLOW Sunday Morning.

1975 called. It wants its New York back.


Sh*t, you should spend a weekend in New Orleans. Every farking night I hear the gunshots in the distance. The good news is that it's very localized. In other words, if you're not in the 'hood trying to score some heroin, chances are you won't die.

While I applaud the results of Guilliani in terms of crime, I still think it was a bit heavy-handed. I caught Times Square at the tail end of her slimy glory, in the early 90s. I was 18 and, yes, I paid for sex (what the fark else was I going to do? Tavern on the Green?).
 
2012-10-31 06:16:59 AM

dickfreckle: Tavern on the Green?


You could have paid for sex there too.
 
2012-10-31 06:23:13 AM

thamike: dickfreckle: Tavern on the Green?

You could have paid for sex there too.


That was more or less my line of thinking. Bonus: She left.
 
2012-10-31 07:30:33 AM

GardenWeasel: Bloody William: gilgigamesh: xanadian: sigdiamond2000: I'm guessing this either gets removed from NRO pretty quickly or this guy is forced to issue a follow-up non-apology apology.

Quick! Cache that puppy!!

*yoink*

[i260.photobucket.com image 850x477]

Nice screencap, but without something incriminating from your browser, it just seems to be lacking something to me.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Still epic after all these years.


?

.... Ohhhhhh, NOW I remember.

Too well.

:/
 
2012-10-31 07:38:28 AM

pciszek: xanadian: Uh. So has Romney, to a point. Didn't he have his campaign bus helping with evacuations or something? Although, Romney doesn't have this pesky thing called a "job" he has to do...

I think it was unfair to rip him for asking his supporters to take down the yard signs lest they blow around and hurt somebody. It was the right thing to do.


Romney did that? Really??

.... I wonder if it was his idea or one of his staffers. It would be nice if his Compassion subroutine started to finally operate correctly...
 
2012-10-31 07:41:59 AM

Bloody William: Artist's depiction of me during this thread:

[i0.kym-cdn.com image 281x236]


That would be similar to the depiction of me during the OTHER thread in question.

Man. I just walked right into that one. :/
 
2012-10-31 07:58:58 AM

palladiate: Aaron Haynes: Thanks for being a jerk and generalizing, though
A Dark Evil Omen: the rightists
neenerist: straw boy
cryinoutloud: But like the guy right below you said--you probably don't have a very good sense of perspective.
ultraholland: Yes, it is. You'll look like a farking idiot for doing so but be my guest.

Holy mother of all things, I was being freaking sarcastic about Republican hypocrisy over this. I thought that was apparent :(


Alarmingly large numbers of serious conservative posts look exactly like yours did. Sorry for the pummeling you took over it!
 
2012-10-31 08:03:57 AM

Jim_Callahan: Gyrfalcon: 1. True, but the death toll isn't really what caught people off guard. What was surprising was the power outages and the storm surge into the subways.


Yeah, that's kind of the downside of living in an area where big storm systems happen but are infrequent. Like I said, not quite as prepared as the people on the gulf coast, where not having the supplies to go a few days without power during storm season is viewed as almost criminally irresponsible.

Still, largely we saw this coming and got our ducks in a row fast. So the unrelenting media panic is somewhat undeserved. Even the word "disaster" is maybe being misapplied a bit. It's not like Katrina or even Joplin, the coast is taking a pounding but it's not outright getting rolled in unexpected ways or anything.

Though, all that said, this has sort of highlighted the need to have the northeast actually enforce building standards for once. Which, y'know, they won't do, as an 80 degree summer killed like 50 people a couple years ago up there and no lessons were learned.


I'm not sure what building standards you are referring to, or what that has to do with a response to a public health issue like a heat wave. Sounds like you're casting about for things to criticize.

Cities like New York, and utilities like Con Edison, are painfully aware of the need to shore up infrastructure against the kinds of damage that will come from higher mean sea level + greater storm surge in the near future ("near" as defined in terms of infrastructure planning). Hell, the NYC office of Long Term Planning and Sustainability - part of the Mayor's Office of Emergency Management - even now has an RFP out for updated information on storm surge scenarios that builds on a 2009 report they commissioned. The main problem is money. I can't find the source I read for this, but it was pointed out that Con Ed knows it needs to invest about $250M at a minimum to relocate its assets out of reach of higher potential storm flood levels, but they can't afford to do it all at once, so they are doing it piecemeal.

There is also the sad fact that while cities, especially on the coasts, are well aware that they need to be planning infrastructure changes to adapt to climate change, the derpitude of their residents and/or their state gov't may mean that they cannot plan for adaptation as readily as they might like. I once gave a talk about sea level rise hazards to some nice folks representing various (largely Republican) townships on the south shore of Long Island, and while they were eager for information, they also were clearly looking for ways to not have to refer to any "bleeding heart liberal ideas" to their constituents. I imagine some of those folks are reconsidering the need to be more blunt so that the residents will understand the threat, and want to support efforts to do something about it.

I also don't get why people are so resistant to referring to what's happened as a disaster. Certainly the people on the Jersey shore or Breezy Point would beg to differ. And the fact that the NYC metro region isn't as crippled as NO was after Katrina should be considered a plus, not a talking point on which to minimize the storm's effects. Don't forget, the tragedy of New Orleans was NOT caused directly by Katrina at all, but rather the failure of a levee that *should* have held, given the type of storm it was built to withstand. That's a different situation compared to that of NY-NJ and Sandy.
 
2012-10-31 09:01:18 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Well, I guess I rad you wrong, anyway. Here's the whip, Boss.


Nah, not wholly wrong. I'm conservative in any case. It's the heartlessness and hypocrisy that bothers me.
 
2012-10-31 09:14:56 AM

palladiate: Is this the thread where we chastise libby libs for their hypocritical glee at Isaac hammering the RNC? Or is that a few down?


Isaac completely missed the RNC, farkwit.
 
2012-10-31 10:10:35 AM

fireside68: pciszek: palladiate: Nabb1: This is just insane. We should not be bickering about politics at a time like this. The real discussion we should be having is whether or not we should rebuild Manhattan. I mean, those people chose to live in a place where this could happen. Look at it - all that flooding from just a category 1.

I have to say I'm very pleasantly and genuinely surprised we haven't yet seen an article from some derpmonger saying exactly this.

As a preface, nothing I am about to say should be construed as to imply that the mayors and governors of the places in the path of Sandy, or the president of the United States, have not done their duty to their people. It appears that every logical preparation was made, and we should be glad that this is winding down with as few casualties as there have been.

Before Sandy hit, someone who lived in a more hurricane-prone portion of the country expressed the opinion that this storm was being disproportionally hyped because it was New York that was at risk. At the time I thought that was unfair, that the northeast had such a higher density of people and property that even a milder hurricane could do more harm there. But considering that this hurricane has killed dozens of people, while gulf coast states get hurricanes that kill hundreds and sometimes thousands...yes, I now think that this hurricane is getting more attention than some deadlier ones, and the fact that it hit the hubs of several media organizations and financial empires may have something to do with that.

NYC should be grateful that a hurricane that killed 38 people can be called "NY's worst storm ever." Other cities have seen much worse.

I no longer feel badly for thinking this all day.


You should. You're both terrible human beings.
 
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