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(Daily Kos)   Why hasn't Romney talked about his record managing emergencies? Because as Governor, he vetoed a flood prevention project for a town that later flooded, then ignored requests for help from a second flooded town   (dailykos.com) divider line 126
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2012-10-30 07:38:45 PM  
21 votes:
Republicans really have no sense of history that they didn't invent out of whole cloth. The reason these megalithic federal agencies exist is because we already tried the other options, and they didn't help. Before FEMA existed, there were hundreds of federal agencies doing disaster relief with no central organization or interconnectedness. Hell, it was Herbert "Hooverville" Hoover who started up the first centralized agency for helping rebuild communities after disaster. And it was a mess of squabbling and piecemeal legislation for decades until the seventies rolled all of these agencies into FEMA so that they could move quicker, cheaper, and do more than they would as a hundred infighting agencies.

Conservatives should crack open a book that isn't from the Texas school board once in a while. Why do we need all these regulations that are strangling our job creators? Well, job creators liked to lock the doors to their garment factories and hundreds of women were burned alive. They also liked that children had small hands and could more easily polish the inside of a mortar round. Why does the FDA get to tell me what to put in my body? Well because people liked to dissolve their snake oil in methanol and sell uranium-laced blankets to people with arthritis.

Anything conservatives vehemently want to dismantle only exists today because we already have seen the consequences of haphazard and local regulation. These programs didn't just appear overnight. They were the result of seeing thousands or hundreds of thousands of deaths, disfigurements, and hardship, and the programs grew organically in order to prevent them from happening again. These agencies exist for a reason.
2012-10-30 02:23:26 PM  
16 votes:
This is a guy who thinks it'd be great idea to privatize disaster response and relief so assholes can further profit off the misfortune of others.

There isn't a single decent or moral bone in Romney's entire body, it seems. The man's every decision and action is guided solely by greed.
2012-10-30 05:18:19 PM  
10 votes:

Weaver95: Mugato: Why won't he make with his tax returns? He's a shady motherfarker, who hasn't got that already?

Even among GOP voters, the answer I get most from them is that they're not voting FOR Romney, they're voting against Obama. not exactly a ringing endorsement for the Republican party. At this point the only thing holding them together is the fact that they hate Obama.


Conversely, I'm not voting for Obama as much as I'm voting to keep these genuinely evil GOP skid marks from tanking my country. As a president, he's nowhere near liberal enough for me - but he's also not crazy, evil, or particularly motivated by greed. He's a solid man who seems to have the best interests of my country at heart.

You know the "GOP is the worst enemy this country has ever faced" meme? Well, yeah. That's not even hyperbole. They're just that farking awful.
2012-10-30 07:26:25 PM  
7 votes:

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


Premise of question rejected. I don't think most Farkers are liberals. The fact that Reagan Republicans are now referred to as "liberals" by the extreme right doesn't make them that.
2012-10-30 07:18:12 PM  
7 votes:
www.apfn.org

"My instructions to the federal agencies has been, 'Do not figure out why we can't do something. I want you to figure out how we do something. I want you to cut through red tape. I want you to cut through bureaucracy. There's no excuse for inaction at this point. I want every agency to lean forward and to make sure that we are getting the resources where they're needed as quickly as possible. I want to repeat, my message to the federal government: no bureaucracy; no red tape. Get resources where they're needed as fast as possible, as hard as possible, and for the duration."
2012-10-30 08:16:15 PM  
6 votes:

ivan: Yeah, so why are most Farkers liberals?


Farkers are pretty evenly spread across the political spectrum. Since the Democratic party covers most of said political spectrum, most of us will be in favor of something that falls somewhere in the blue region most of the time.

We're only all "liberals" if you're using that as shorthand for "anything other than straight-ticket GOP", which is both not what the word actually means and an exceptionally stupid way to use it.

For example, I'm a policy conservative, i.e. I generally do not advocate changing any policy unless there is a bloody _mountain_ of evidence that the new version is not only better, but better enough to make up for the costs associated with changing policy. I tend to resist social policy changes at the national level until they've been tested at the state level, and I resist changes at the state level until they've been tried at the local level, and react to any politician pushing a dramatic social agenda as if it were urgent with extreme suspicion. I care a lot about the cost of things, and where politics is concerned saying that something, even something obviously vital, is "worth any price" is probably the fastest way to lose me.

Ten years ago, this would have (and did) probably make me a GOP voter for the most part. Nowadays, it makes me a straight-ticket Democrat almost. Literally every actual conservative candidate in US politics has a (D) by their name now. The GOP consists entirely of radical religious reactionaries, which isn't even within artillery distance of conservatism.
2012-10-30 07:25:14 PM  
6 votes:
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Appropriate.
2012-10-30 07:24:17 PM  
5 votes:

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


I can only assume it's because to defend the GOP these days you have to spew nonsense since that is what the GOP is peddling. So those who do are overwhelmed by liberal Farkers who see through the bullshiat that Fox News et al is feeding them and eventually give up or turn to trolling. Those Farkers who are conservative but not party loyalists to their death are few and seem to have little cause for defending the absolute fascist Bronze Age feces being touted by their more die hard colleagues.
2012-10-30 09:25:47 PM  
4 votes:

James F. Campbell: ck819: Why are most farkers liberals?

I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm a liberal because I'm not a farktard.


www.politicsplus.org
2012-10-30 07:53:26 PM  
4 votes:

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"


I would say most Farkers are intelligent people and basically decent people, both of which preclude supporting Romney or any Republican, whether you're pro-Obama or not.
2012-10-30 07:30:59 PM  
4 votes:

Noam Chimpsky: ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?

Because most conservatives can't tolerate so much stupidity. I've donated my time to help out the retarded and other special needs types in the past so I've developed a strong tolerance and sort of an amusement to the liberal psychopathy. This is true, not being sarcastic. I can understand most conservatives' repulsion to it, though. You will lose a few IQ points debating these folks, but I had plenty to spare.


case in point - if you aren't with him, you're against him. no grey areas, no compromise - completely black and white thinking.
2012-10-30 07:29:34 PM  
4 votes:

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


Most farkers aren't. at best they're moderates (and more than a little insane). you assume an inherent bias with your question though. I don't think you realized it, so I'll let it slide.

that said, the GOP types define anyone who isn't a Jesus loving authoritarian as a dirty librul hippy. if you aren't with them, you're against 'em. Democrats and 'liberals' tho, they tend to see things in various shades of grey.
2012-10-30 05:19:55 PM  
4 votes:

dickfreckle:
You know the "GOP is the worst enemy this country has ever faced" meme? Well, yeah. That's not even hyperbole. They're just that farking awful.


I just don't want to live under a theocratic government. Obama isn't a theocrat and the GOP is...so the choice is pretty simple.
2012-10-30 04:22:19 PM  
4 votes:

Nadie_AZ: This warmed the cockles of the talkers' hearts at Fox News, of course, where no one doubted that Romney was not, repeat NOT campaigning. He was just helping box up some canned goods to help in the relief effort, and, heavens, if some photographers or some voters happened to be nearby, that was swell too.

Doesn't sound beyond the scope of logic. BUT

But had anyone at the Romney campaign bothered to ask the Red Cross, they would have been informed that collecting canned is exactly what they don't need.

From their site:

The American Red Cross does not accept or solicit small quantities of individual donations of items for emergency relief purposes. Items such as collections of food, used clothing, and shoes often must be cleaned, sorted, and repackaged which impedes the valuable resources of money, time, and personnel that are needed for other aspects of our relief operation.

Link


There are dipshiats where I work which are collecting grocery store bags which they weave into this shiatty mats which they apparently are donating to Haiti because there is apparently a shortage of shiatty mats there and they lack the labour force to weave plastic bags into mats.

I'm not joking. They have collection bins on every floor and several employees are doing the weaving and I assume someone is paying the post to get them to Haiti. Well paid employees also.

I shake my head. If employees instead donated their time spent doing this in salary dollars they could probably pay to build a decent sized health clinic or school house in Haiti. What do we give them instead, shiatty plastic mats.

From their perspective it is like a billionaire knitting you a sweater. Nice sweater and the thought was nice but if you could instead had given us a fraction of the money you made in the time it took you to make that sweater we could could reduced infant mortality by 10% or have functional water treatment plan
2012-10-30 04:13:08 PM  
4 votes:

Mugato: Why won't he make with his tax returns? He's a shady motherfarker, who hasn't got that already?


Even among GOP voters, the answer I get most from them is that they're not voting FOR Romney, they're voting against Obama. not exactly a ringing endorsement for the Republican party. At this point the only thing holding them together is the fact that they hate Obama.
2012-10-30 03:50:59 PM  
4 votes:

Freudian_slipknot: netizencain: If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?

Maybe they were tired. I would be a little worn out after over 700 overrides


Is that seriously the best spin the Romney people have? It's not Romney's fault that he vetoed a flood control bill, it's the Democrats fault for not overriding it?
2012-10-30 02:25:38 PM  
4 votes:
And of course Romney was asked 14 times about FEMA and refused to answer any of them.
2012-10-30 09:49:29 PM  
3 votes:

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?



Fark used to be more evenly divided. There actually used to be some very good debates on this site. But, as the right-wing got nuttier and nuttier, people who are earnest and intellectually honest have a tough time arguing for right-wing ideas and policies.

Even the Limbaugh crowd which actually believes all the bullshiat is less than thrilled with the prospect of voicing them outside of the echo chamber, Either they don't want to cop to them, (in the way that a racist doesn't want to tell a black joke in mixed company because he doesn't want everyone thinking he's a huge asshole) or they don't want to be made foolish trying to argue for them when their arguments generally break down into ad hominems and/or special pleading.

That just leaves the trolls. The people who mainly just want attention or want to derail actual conversation because they know it won't go well for "their side."

And it's not just fark... even the conservatives on my facebook page won't speak up much anymore... and I live in farking Alabama. I know they're there. But they don't seem eager to make themselves known the way they once did.
2012-10-30 09:07:16 PM  
3 votes:

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


They're not... the majority are moderates.

Farkers like humor... They like to make jokes and have fun... modern conservatives aren't generally very funny and their jokes are always at someone else's expense. So... they just don't usually fit in here very well. Additionally, not many of the conservative talking points are based in reality or facts... Farkers tend to pick things apart and try to find the facts behind things. That also doesn't fit well with modern conservatives. They can't just spew bullshiat here without being called out for the bullshiat.

And that's really what it comes down to, I think.
2012-10-30 08:47:35 PM  
3 votes:
Obviously he was too busy getting contracts in China to make his campaign hats
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2012-10-30 08:04:13 PM  
3 votes:

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"


Personally (while still registered R out of lethargy): After I was laid off in '09 due to the economy, the flipping house goes tea party and starts playing politics with unemployment benefits. Coupled with their Christian Fundie pet projects (also now an atheist thanks to fark), blatant obstructionism to make Obama a one termer economy be damned, and now with the quantum candidate and his almost pathologic penchant for lies... the pacific ocean will have to freeze over before I vote for any R for any post other than county clerk or sheriff.
2012-10-30 07:56:09 PM  
3 votes:

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"


Why shouldn't more people in general be more pro-rational, pro-smart, pro-decency?

Because that just happens to be what Obama is. It's not partisan, at some point, you have to pick the side that does things the way they should be done.
2012-10-30 07:29:29 PM  
3 votes:

Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.


Should you be allowed to accumulate property you lack the means to protect, and then expect the state to arrest and jail anyone who takes it from you at MY expense? Take care of your own property, you socialist leech. You should have planned better.
2012-10-30 07:26:30 PM  
3 votes:
Why are liberal and conservative tags that are thrown around like coupons at a consumer convention?
 
Have a conver-fexing-sation for once in your life.
2012-10-30 07:18:00 PM  
3 votes:

ck819: Why are most farkers liberals?


Because you have to read to understand most of the non-pornography content on the internet.
2012-10-30 07:05:20 PM  
3 votes:

mrshowrules: Nadie_AZ: This warmed the cockles of the talkers' hearts at Fox News, of course, where no one doubted that Romney was not, repeat NOT campaigning. He was just helping box up some canned goods to help in the relief effort, and, heavens, if some photographers or some voters happened to be nearby, that was swell too.

Doesn't sound beyond the scope of logic. BUT

But had anyone at the Romney campaign bothered to ask the Red Cross, they would have been informed that collecting canned is exactly what they don't need.

From their site:

The American Red Cross does not accept or solicit small quantities of individual donations of items for emergency relief purposes. Items such as collections of food, used clothing, and shoes often must be cleaned, sorted, and repackaged which impedes the valuable resources of money, time, and personnel that are needed for other aspects of our relief operation.

Link

There are dipshiats where I work which are collecting grocery store bags which they weave into this shiatty mats which they apparently are donating to Haiti because there is apparently a shortage of shiatty mats there and they lack the labour force to weave plastic bags into mats.

I'm not joking. They have collection bins on every floor and several employees are doing the weaving and I assume someone is paying the post to get them to Haiti. Well paid employees also.

I shake my head. If employees instead donated their time spent doing this in salary dollars they could probably pay to build a decent sized health clinic or school house in Haiti. What do we give them instead, shiatty plastic mats.

From their perspective it is like a billionaire knitting you a sweater. Nice sweater and the thought was nice but if you could instead had given us a fraction of the money you made in the time it took you to make that sweater we could could reduced infant mortality by 10% or have functional water treatment plan


Goddess this is depressing.
2012-10-30 06:57:53 PM  
3 votes:
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2012-10-30 06:21:59 PM  
3 votes:

eraser8: I don't think many Farkers have paid much attention to my political judgments over the years -- but, if they have, they'll know I've never been a huge Barack Obama fan.

But, I've always been against the Republicans holding the country hostage for its temerity of electing a Democrat to the presidency.

That, more than anything, is why I voted for Barack Obama this year: to show Republicans that their ransom will not be paid, that I will not negotiate with terrorists.


Completely understandable. I was ambivalent about Obama in 2008. I really liked McCain and if he had not insulted my entire gender by picking Palin as his VP, I would have seriously considered voting for him. That mistake made my choice for me.

I've been watching for the last 4 years. Obama isn't bad. Not as liberal as I'd like and he's definitely no Bill Clinton. But the choice this year is between the scary unhinged derp coming from the frothy right wing bigots and Barack Obama. My choice this year was not difficult. I happily voted for Obama today.
2012-10-30 05:43:29 PM  
3 votes:

Lando Lincoln: Yeah, but those Salt Lake City Olympics...he did a good job, there.


Of course. After the federal government paid billions into it, how could it fail?
2012-10-30 04:09:47 PM  
3 votes:
This warmed the cockles of the talkers' hearts at Fox News, of course, where no one doubted that Romney was not, repeat NOT campaigning. He was just helping box up some canned goods to help in the relief effort, and, heavens, if some photographers or some voters happened to be nearby, that was swell too.

Doesn't sound beyond the scope of logic. BUT

But had anyone at the Romney campaign bothered to ask the Red Cross, they would have been informed that collecting canned is exactly what they don't need.

From their site:

The American Red Cross does not accept or solicit small quantities of individual donations of items for emergency relief purposes. Items such as collections of food, used clothing, and shoes often must be cleaned, sorted, and repackaged which impedes the valuable resources of money, time, and personnel that are needed for other aspects of our relief operation.

Link
2012-10-30 03:32:59 PM  
3 votes:

Weaver95: Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink

I honestly can't tell if this is serious or not....


At which point it's no longer worth worrying.

Your worst case scenario is that you put someone on ignore who thinks that that was clever and funny.
2012-10-30 02:09:38 PM  
3 votes:
Flood prevention?!? That as unnecessary as health insurance. I'm not sick, why would I need health insurance?
2012-10-30 02:07:45 PM  
3 votes:
Heckuv'a job there, Mittens.
2012-10-30 11:33:16 PM  
2 votes:
Here is how a PRESIDENT deals with a disaster.

"My instructions to the federal agency has been, 'Do not figure out why we can't do something. I want you to figure out how we do something. I want you to cut through red tape. I want you to cut through bureaucracy.' There's no excuse for inaction at this point," Obama said during a visit to the headquarters of the American Red Cross. "I want every agency to lean forward and to make sure that we are getting the resources where they need -- where they're needed as quickly as possible."
2012-10-30 09:53:05 PM  
2 votes:

theknuckler_33: Lando Lincoln: shanrick: I'm a 65 year-old fundamentalist baptist and I'm voting for Obama.

Probably because you think that Mormons and Papists and Satanists are one and the same.

Don't forget that devil inspired Catholic on the ticket!


Which one?

I find it interesting that there are no WASPs on either ticket this election.
2012-10-30 09:37:52 PM  
2 votes:

Animatronik: coyo: Animatronik: This is a lame, one-sided attempt by Obamafanatics to exploit a natural disaster.

If we continue as we have been, we wont have to worry about Federal disaster relief because there wont be any federal money for it.


You would have more of a point if Romney proposed doing anything different. He has not laid out a single policy difference, well other than ending FEMA, Planned Parenthood, PBS and Roe V Wade.

LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget.

4 years ago Obama said he would cut the deficit but he increased it and his proposed budgets would have increased it even more, but they were so bad that his own party voted them down.

O f course, in the current unreality, Democrats have decided that, since GW GW GW, deficits dont matter, its a goddam spending spree. Well its 4 years later, time to get rid of the BO, try something new.


Actually, Obama HAS cut the deficit. The most recent budget is less red than the 2010 (Obama's first) budget. The 2013 will be less red than the 2012 as well. Yes, they're still red, but that's because Obama was honest enough to put the cost of the two wars that GWBush ran into the expense side of the budget. Bush didn't include them in his budget.
2012-10-30 09:33:16 PM  
2 votes:

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"


He's the best Republican president in my lifetime.
2012-10-30 09:29:51 PM  
2 votes:

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


Because there is no difference between what actual republicans say and what people who troll the internet say. None.

Many are not liberals but they are sick of the derp
2012-10-30 09:10:19 PM  
2 votes:

netizencain: If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?



"Lady, if you didn't want it, why didn't you stop me? So what... I had a knife at your throat. Big deal. If you REALLY cared... and you REALLY didn't want it, you would have fought me off... knife or no knife. Don't try to pretend after the fact that this is all my fault somehow. Either you wanted it or you're so weak and timid and powerless that you should've never even left your house. Don't act like I'm some horrible boogeyman. Take some responsibility for yourself. You disgust me."
2012-10-30 09:00:14 PM  
2 votes:

Mrtraveler01: Animatronik: LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget.

Without touching Medicare or the Defense budget.

That's like a fat man saying that he's going to lose weight without going on a diet.


Increasing defense spending, remember. It's more like a fat man saying that he's going to lose weight by going on a diet consisting of nothing but Twinkies, Coke and cheap rum.
2012-10-30 08:56:41 PM  
2 votes:

Animatronik: LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget.


Without touching Medicare or the Defense budget.

That's like a fat man saying that he's going to lose weight without going on a diet.
2012-10-30 08:56:16 PM  
2 votes:

MrSplifferton: Obviously he was too busy getting contracts in China to make his campaign hats


Well it's typical Romney behavior... Get donations from Americans... Use that money to buy hats made in China on the cheap, then sell the hats back to the same people who paid for them in the first place at a markup.

Either way... every Romney supporter who donated to Romney was sending a portion of their money directly to China... bet they're pretty happy about that...

At least the Obama campaign (both the last one and this one) hired American companies to make the products they sold... keeping the donation money here at home.
2012-10-30 08:56:05 PM  
2 votes:

A Dark Evil Omen: Weaver95: Animatronik:
LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget..

yes, apparently by giving the rich more tax cuts. i'm still not sure how that's supposed to work....

Step 1: Cut taxes
Step 2: Increase defense spending
Step 3: America collapses
Step 4: Neo-CSA disavows all debts owed by the former USA

Balanced federal budget!


sometimes I really do think that the GOP wants to split up the USA into smaller countries.
2012-10-30 08:54:20 PM  
2 votes:

Weaver95: Animatronik:
LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget..

yes, apparently by giving the rich more tax cuts. i'm still not sure how that's supposed to work....


And refusing to cut (and, in fact, increasing) the defense budget. And invading Iran.
2012-10-30 08:46:12 PM  
2 votes:

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"


The alternative to Obama is a greedy, lying asshole with mild autism. The Republican party is dominated by anti-intellectual lunatics waiting for the rapture and amoral Ayn Rand disciples, and Romney is a spineless wimp afraid to stand up to any of them.

I'm not pro-obama; I'm anti-romney.

But for the record, I am a proud liberal.
2012-10-30 08:42:41 PM  
2 votes:

Animatronik: This is a lame, one-sided attempt by Obamafanatics to exploit a natural disaster.


You're a joke... a bad joke.

So how does it feel to be a bad joke? I've always tried to avoid being seen as a joke, especially a bad one, but you seem determined to be the worst joke you can be. I really don't understand the logic behind your choice to be a bad joke.
2012-10-30 08:31:50 PM  
2 votes:
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2012-10-30 08:30:26 PM  
2 votes:

Hobodeluxe: Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.

should the taxpayer pay for Christie's cardiologist?


Yes. A civilized country provides healthcare for all.
2012-10-30 08:12:25 PM  
2 votes:

ck819: Why are most farkers liberals?


I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm a liberal because I'm not a farktard.
2012-10-30 08:08:37 PM  
2 votes:

Lando Lincoln: Yeah, but those Salt Lake City Olympics...he did a good job, there.


He only askef for $1,300,000,000.00 from the federal government to hold the olympics, too.

(That's three times more than we spend on PBS and NPR combined. Apparently, borrowing money from China is OK when Mitt does it.)
2012-10-30 07:57:59 PM  
2 votes:

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"


Or you could try "why do most farkers accept evolution?" Or "why do most farkers have compassion for rape victims?"
2012-10-30 07:54:52 PM  
2 votes:

MyRandomName: cameroncrazy1984: And of course Romney was asked 14 times about FEMA and refused to answer any of them.

Is he trying to break Obama's record on Libya?


What, you mean the embassy security that the GOP voted to defund? Is that what you are talking about? And when did Obama not answer a direct question about it?
2012-10-30 07:41:18 PM  
2 votes:

Noam Chimpsky: jso2897: Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.

Should you be allowed to accumulate property you lack the means to protect, and then expect the state to arrest and jail anyone who takes it from you at MY expense? Take care of your own property, you socialist leech. You should have planned better.

Then your answer to my question is "yes"?



I suppose your motivation for asking the question is to somehow show that the government should not help out those who have made bad decisions. Of course it does. In fact, it should also make the best effort to educate you so that you don't make bad decisions.

The government does have an obligation to protect your life. It even has an obligation to protect your property as best it can, though it does NOT have an obligation to issue you a new building permit if your place is totalled.

The rich, complain as they might about taxes, benefit disproportionally from them. Their taxes go to the dept of commerce, which goes to bat for the on the world stage. It gets them yummy government contracts.
And yes, it protects them with far more fervor than it protects those born on the wrong side of the tracks.
2012-10-30 07:28:30 PM  
2 votes:

Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.


should the taxpayer pay for Christie's cardiologist?
2012-10-30 07:23:15 PM  
2 votes:

Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink


Dude - the problem is still the same - by any reasonable measure, Romney looks ten times worse. "Obama Sucks" won't cut it, even to the extent that you can prove your case - you have to offer somebody better, or at least as good - and that ain't Romney.
I'm not going to fire my mechanic for working too slow and then hand the keys to the guys who wrecked the car in the first place.
2012-10-30 07:12:43 PM  
2 votes:

Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.


Yup because bodies of water have never ever been important to humans whatsoever.
2012-10-30 05:51:06 PM  
2 votes:

dickfreckle: Weaver95: Mugato: Why won't he make with his tax returns? He's a shady motherfarker, who hasn't got that already?

Even among GOP voters, the answer I get most from them is that they're not voting FOR Romney, they're voting against Obama. not exactly a ringing endorsement for the Republican party. At this point the only thing holding them together is the fact that they hate Obama.

Conversely, I'm not voting for Obama as much as I'm voting to keep these genuinely evil GOP skid marks from tanking my country. As a president, he's nowhere near liberal enough for me - but he's also not crazy, evil, or particularly motivated by greed. He's a solid man who seems to have the best interests of my country at heart.

You know the "GOP is the worst enemy this country has ever faced" meme? Well, yeah. That's not even hyperbole. They're just that farking awful.


Quite right.

I don't think many Farkers have paid much attention to my political judgments over the years -- but, if they have, they'll know I've never been a huge Barack Obama fan.

But, I've always been against the Republicans holding the country hostage for its temerity of electing a Democrat to the presidency.

That, more than anything, is why I voted for Barack Obama this year: to show Republicans that their ransom will not be paid, that I will not negotiate with terrorists.
2012-10-30 05:28:14 PM  
2 votes:

Weaver95: dickfreckle:
You know the "GOP is the worst enemy this country has ever faced" meme? Well, yeah. That's not even hyperbole. They're just that farking awful.

I just don't want to live under a theocratic government. Obama isn't a theocrat and the GOP is...so the choice is pretty simple.


I used to get annoyed by all the "American Taliban" remarks. But the past few years in particular have made me realize that's what the GOP strives to be. And they're wrapping it in flags and calling it "Liberty."

Granted, not all Republicans think this way. But there's enough of them to genuinely unnerve me. And you gotta wonder about how many Jesus-freaks would ride on Romney's coattails should he win.
2012-10-30 04:18:29 PM  
2 votes:
Everyone knows that the only true solution to all this flooding and wind damage is more tax breaks for the wealthy.
2012-10-30 04:08:55 PM  
2 votes:
Why won't he make with his tax returns? He's a shady motherfarker, who hasn't got that already?
2012-10-30 03:59:55 PM  
2 votes:

netizencain: Budget line item vetos. A bill probably has hundreds of things that he can line out. Again, I'd like a percentage to make a better judgement. Otherwise it's just a SQUIRREL


I think that, regardless of the number of vetos, with an override number like that (many unanimous, apparently) combined with a 34% approval rating at the end of his term, you can feel free to wonder what the f*ck he was doing as governor.

That said, "The fruitless vetoes include some that Romney makes a point of boasting about. On June 15, Romney gave a speech at the National Right to Life Convention Forum where he spoke at length about his vetoes of "pro-choice legislation." He vetoed a bill allowing pharmacists to dispense the morning-after pill without a prescription and another streamlining the process for scientists conducting embryonic stem-cell research. Both vetoes, however, were overturned.

Romney also vetoed a minimum wage increase, and a bill that legalized over-the-counter sales of hypodermic needles. The Legislature overrode both vetoes.

It's worth noting the General Court, Massachusetts' legislative body, was overwhelmingly Democratic while Romney was governor. Even now, the House consists of 141 Democrats and only 19 Republicans, while the Senate has 34 Democrats, five Republicans and one vacant seat. But in some cases even the Republicans went against Romney. His minimum wage veto was overridden unanimously, for example. In that instance the House voted against him 152 to 0, and minutes later the Senate voted 38 to 0."
2012-10-30 03:19:46 PM  
2 votes:

Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink


I honestly can't tell if this is serious or not....
2012-10-30 03:12:49 PM  
2 votes:
More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink
2012-10-31 07:44:17 AM  
1 votes:

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


It's not that most farkers are liberals. It's that the Republican party is so derp-tastic right now that pretty much every non-liberal that tries to interject typical GOP talking points gets handily shut down. The only people left are the trolls that still post 5 month-ago-debunked gibberish and don't stick around long enough to see it responded too. Occasionally you'll see someone stick around and try and defend said talking points, but it never lasts long, because it's hard to be wrong all the time.
2012-10-31 07:26:07 AM  
1 votes:

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


I don't think they are.

Most are going to support Dems, but that doesn't mean they are liberal.

The Republican party has gone pants on the head retarted to the point they are debating if a woman who is raped should have to carry the baby. A lot of then honestly want to get rid of FEMA, or have it privitized.
2012-10-31 06:04:35 AM  
1 votes:
And in another post ck819 said:
"Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know..."

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias...


So you're not here alot but you've noticed 'most of the political headlines were anti Romney'.
What are the chances of that happening to you, maybe you're a wizard?

Are you a wizard?
2012-10-31 02:32:04 AM  
1 votes:
Via Infinito:

I really liked McCain and if he had not insulted my entire gender by picking Palin as his VP, I would have seriously considered voting for him.

[Obama is] Not as liberal as I'd like and he's definitely no Bill Clinton.


I'm sorry, but how the hell do you reconcile these two statements? If Obama isn't liberal enough for your taste, what the blistering fark did you like about McCain?
2012-10-30 10:53:14 PM  
1 votes:

Hunter_Worthington: As a United States Senator, Barrack Obama voted against raising the debt ceiling. But as President, he needed it raised. So, hypocrite, or pandering politician?

You be the judge.


My judgment is that Fark is overrun by morons. Not you, of course. Expressing such an opinion would get my post deleted. it seems.

But bye. I really don't care whether folks are sincere morons, or only emulating them. I haven't got the patience anymore.
2012-10-30 10:47:09 PM  
1 votes:
I was talking to one of my best friends today - Boston born and bred, now living in Georgia. Her parents retired to the Maggie Valley area of NC. She told me her parents, MA natives, very conservative Irish Italian Catholics, hate Romney with the intensity of a thousand burning suns and are not making too many friends with their southern neighbors by telling them, in their New England accents, about how much of a lying , smarmy sack of shiat he is. I personally would take the word of someone who lived under his governorship into consideration. In fact, I have.
2012-10-30 09:55:20 PM  
1 votes:

fusillade762: theknuckler_33: Lando Lincoln: shanrick: I'm a 65 year-old fundamentalist baptist and I'm voting for Obama.

Probably because you think that Mormons and Papists and Satanists are one and the same.

Don't forget that devil inspired Catholic on the ticket!

Which one?

I find it interesting that there are no WASPs on either ticket this election.


Yeah, true. This must be why there is so much rancor from the evangelical derposphere. Regardless of who wins, they lose.
2012-10-30 09:46:37 PM  
1 votes:

GoldSpider: Michael 'Doing A Heck Of A Job Brownie' Brown Berates Obama For 'Jumping On' Sandy Too Quickly


My G-d, that poor man is actually clinically insane and people are making fun of him or worse going along with him instead of getting him some desperately needed help. I can't help feeling sorry for him.
2012-10-30 09:33:30 PM  
1 votes:

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


People with empathy tend to hang out together
2012-10-30 09:32:32 PM  
1 votes:

MrSplifferton: Obviously he was too busy getting contracts in China to make his campaign hats
[i1128.photobucket.com image 480x284]


Ha! I hadn't seen that.

Jeez, you'd think rule #1 for people running a Presidential campaign would be to make sure your campaign gear is made in the USA.
2012-10-30 09:20:55 PM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: Animatronik:
LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget..

yes, apparently by giving the rich more tax cuts. i'm still not sure how that's supposed to work....


In the spirit of bipartisan compromise, he's going to allow congress to choose the tax deductions to eliminate and the spending to cut.

That way, Romney gets credit for the tax cuts, and Congress gets blamed for the deficit.
2012-10-30 09:18:51 PM  
1 votes:
The possibility of President Romney actually scares me. I was not a Bush supporter in 00 or 04 but the possibility of Dubya being elected did not bother me nearly as much as Romney.
2012-10-30 09:02:56 PM  
1 votes:

A Dark Evil Omen: Mrtraveler01: Animatronik: LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget.

Without touching Medicare or the Defense budget.

That's like a fat man saying that he's going to lose weight without going on a diet.

Increasing defense spending, remember. It's more like a fat man saying that he's going to lose weight by going on a diet consisting of nothing but Twinkies, Coke and cheap rum.


But it's OK, because he'll buy them at the gas station THREE blocks away instead of three and a half.
2012-10-30 09:00:20 PM  
1 votes:

Animatronik: This is a lame, one-sided attempt by Obamafanatics to exploit a natural disaster.

If we continue as we have been, we wont have to worry about Federal disaster relief because there wont be any federal money for it.


www.huffingtonpost.com

Iraq War costs and tax cut income dearth and Presidential Seal guitar says what, now?
2012-10-30 08:58:58 PM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: A Dark Evil Omen: Weaver95: Animatronik:
LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget..

yes, apparently by giving the rich more tax cuts. i'm still not sure how that's supposed to work....

Step 1: Cut taxes
Step 2: Increase defense spending
Step 3: America collapses
Step 4: Neo-CSA disavows all debts owed by the former USA

Balanced federal budget!

sometimes I really do think that the GOP wants to split up the USA into smaller countries.


Nah. The blue-collar base is all het up with secessionist and nativist rhetoric and warmed-over Confederate nonsense, but the GOP proper just sees it as a payday. They don't care. The wealthy and powerful will be fine no matter what happens. Oh no, the USA collapsed into a nuclear capable version of the Balkan states. Time to move to Bali and live like a sultan with all of the billions of dollars I sucked out of those suckers!
2012-10-30 08:55:21 PM  
1 votes:

Animatronik: LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget.


By increasing defense spending, campaigning on "OBAMMER IS CUTTING YOUR MEDICARE" and mentioning little to nothing of SS. All while cutting taxes...

MAGIC
2012-10-30 08:54:32 PM  
1 votes:

Krymson Tyde: I heard Mrs. Romney say before a debate Mitt always writes "Dad" on a piece of paper to remind himself to not do anything that would embarrass his father.

Yeah, about that...


In a bored moment this weekend, I was rereading "The Great Shark Hunt". Lucky for me I don't use drugs, because while reading through the section on the 1968 Presidential election, I got to HST's take on someone called "George Romney" who was running against Nixon. Thompson seemed to like this "George Romney," but he lost badly in the early primaries. And then it dawned on me...it was THAT "George Romney."

Imagine how history would have been different if he'd won, instead of NIxon!
2012-10-30 08:53:57 PM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: Animatronik:
LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget..

yes, apparently by giving the rich more tax cuts. i'm still not sure how that's supposed to work....


Step 1: Cut taxes
Step 2: Increase defense spending
Step 3: America collapses
Step 4: Neo-CSA disavows all debts owed by the former USA

Balanced federal budget!
2012-10-30 08:53:42 PM  
1 votes:

BronyMedic: This is a poe, right?


Yes... this morning I saw one of his posts was a weird Cool Hand Luke riff.

I think he's trying to bite Mike_LowELL's style.
2012-10-30 08:52:24 PM  
1 votes:

Animatronik:
LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget..


yes, apparently by giving the rich more tax cuts. i'm still not sure how that's supposed to work....
2012-10-30 08:52:04 PM  
1 votes:

Im_Gumby: But... but... I was told that MI is still up for grabs: "Michigan: 51-48 Romney -- the surprise of the night, Romney's home state ties are more key than Obama's claims to have "saved" the domestic auto industry"


Haha... well... whatever they're saying... I doubt Romney is going to win Michigan. Generally the conservatives will slather their vehicles with bumper stickers and their yards with signs... So far I've seen exactly one Romney bumper sticker and two Romney yard signs... however... both those Romney yard signs were in the same yard (on opposite ends of the property).

Granted, I suppose it is POSSIBLE that Romney will take Michigan... but I'd count that as highly unlikely. 538 still has Michigan at 98.1% chance for an Obama win here... They were pretty right on the money the last election. I think it's safe to assume they're not too far off the mark this one.

Im_Gumby: planning on laughing SO hard at unskewed on Nov. 7th


Not I... Yes, I will be glad when Obama wins (I'm confident he will), but I don't want to rub their noses in their loss too much. They're going to be hard enough to deal with over the next four years without us starting off Obama's second term by shoving their failure to produce a worthy candidate in their faces.
2012-10-30 08:50:53 PM  
1 votes:

Jackson Herring: I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama

Hahahhhhhhahaahahahah


Apparently he's using Netscape communicator and it doesn't allow for [derp] a href="AmericanThinker.org">img src="AmericanRetard.org" [/derp]
2012-10-30 08:50:21 PM  
1 votes:

mrshowrules: Nadie_AZ: This warmed the cockles of the talkers' hearts at Fox News, of course, where no one doubted that Romney was not, repeat NOT campaigning. He was just helping box up some canned goods to help in the relief effort, and, heavens, if some photographers or some voters happened to be nearby, that was swell too.

Doesn't sound beyond the scope of logic. BUT

But had anyone at the Romney campaign bothered to ask the Red Cross, they would have been informed that collecting canned is exactly what they don't need.

From their site:

The American Red Cross does not accept or solicit small quantities of individual donations of items for emergency relief purposes. Items such as collections of food, used clothing, and shoes often must be cleaned, sorted, and repackaged which impedes the valuable resources of money, time, and personnel that are needed for other aspects of our relief operation.

Link

There are dipshiats where I work which are collecting grocery store bags which they weave into this shiatty mats which they apparently are donating to Haiti because there is apparently a shortage of shiatty mats there and they lack the labour force to weave plastic bags into mats.

I'm not joking. They have collection bins on every floor and several employees are doing the weaving and I assume someone is paying the post to get them to Haiti. Well paid employees also.

I shake my head. If employees instead donated their time spent doing this in salary dollars they could probably pay to build a decent sized health clinic or school house in Haiti. What do we give them instead, shiatty plastic mats.

From their perspective it is like a billionaire knitting you a sweater. Nice sweater and the thought was nice but if you could instead had given us a fraction of the money you made in the time it took you to make that sweater we could could reduced infant mortality by 10% or have functional water treatment plan


Your co-workers are weaving because they are operating under the assumption that Haitians can't be trusted with money. Sending money is a crap shoot, you don't know where it will end up and what happens if the money is used in ways you, the giver, don't approve? or if it's put in the hands of people which you, the giver, don't approve?

So, you give canned goods which will sit in storage; or make baked goods with your church social which will never see the intended recipient; or you do as your co-workers did, weaving mats out of paper bags... but what you never do is allow others to make their own decisions about what to do with your hard earned money.

That's all.
2012-10-30 08:46:04 PM  
1 votes:

shanrick: I'm a 65 year-old fundamentalist baptist and I'm voting for Obama.


Probably because you think that Mormons and Satanists are one and the same.
2012-10-30 08:43:56 PM  
1 votes:
I'm a 65 year-old fundamentalist baptist and I'm voting for Obama.
2012-10-30 08:42:39 PM  
1 votes:

JohnnyC: TV's Vinnie: Just lookit those crowds!

It isn't like Romney is very popular here in Michigan... I'm sure tens of people couldn't wait to have Mitt lie to them personally.


But... but... I was told that MI is still up for grabs: "Michigan: 51-48 Romney -- the surprise of the night, Romney's home state ties are more key than Obama's claims to have "saved" the domestic auto industry"

/planning on laughing SO hard at unskewed on Nov. 7th
2012-10-30 08:41:06 PM  
1 votes:

coyo: Animatronik: This is a lame, one-sided attempt by Obamafanatics to exploit a natural disaster.

If we continue as we have been, we wont have to worry about Federal disaster relief because there wont be any federal money for it.


You would have more of a point if Romney proposed doing anything different. He has not laid out a single policy difference, well other than ending FEMA, Planned Parenthood, PBS and Roe V Wade.


Or you could be a Poe and I have been tricked.
2012-10-30 08:40:52 PM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: Noam Chimpsky: ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?

Because most conservatives can't tolerate so much stupidity. I've donated my time to help out the retarded and other special needs types in the past so I've developed a strong tolerance and sort of an amusement to the liberal psychopathy. This is true, not being sarcastic. I can understand most conservatives' repulsion to it, though. You will lose a few IQ points debating these folks, but I had plenty to spare.

case in point - if you aren't with him, you're against him. no grey areas, no compromise - completely black and white thinking.


That seems to be the principal difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives see everything in black-and-white, binary way. That view is great for decision making, since most decisions are rather definite: either go or not go, buy or not buy, etc. However it's very ineffective in modeling reality. Reality is a continuum, a spectrum of infinite possibilities. Liberals see reality as it is: infinite possibilities. They see the fine gradients in 1080p HD and not 8-bit greyscale. That's reality. But, the weakness is evaluating and making decisions. Liberals do tend to take a lot more time to contemplate and assess before making a decision. It's almost ent-ish in considering the possibilities and outcomes.

What would be a great leader is someone who views the world with a liberal's eye and someone who can execute and make decisions with a conservative's spine.

Unfortunately, the current crop of GOPs have the conservative's black-and-white view of the world and the liberal's decision-making skills. In regards to decision-making, their method is a rather simple one: whatever Obama would do, do the opposite. The current crop of GOPs' only skill is snickering: finding fault in the most meaningless action of Obama. They're really good at that. If Obama walks with his left foot first, they'll complain that he's a lefty communist. If Obama walks with his right foot first, they'll complain that he views the right as below him. To the GOP, no action or inaction by Obama is ever correct or wise.
2012-10-30 08:36:11 PM  
1 votes:

Animatronik: This is a lame, one-sided attempt by Obamafanatics to exploit a natural disaster.

If we continue as we have been, we wont have to worry about Federal disaster relief because there wont be any federal money for it.


What you meant to say but your shill-vision blinded you in doing so: "Romney wants to do away with FEMA and give it over to states and how dare someone take a critical look at what he did as governor of MA."
2012-10-30 08:32:58 PM  
1 votes:

coyo: Interesting ad : [pagead2.googlesyndication.com image 300x250]
Look at the buttons.


Let's hope a lot of people are red-green colorblind.
2012-10-30 08:23:36 PM  
1 votes:

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


So being a rational, common sense thinking person is a liberal? So call me liberal.
2012-10-30 08:06:45 PM  
1 votes:

dartben: You're not going to find a lot of 65 year-old fundamentalist baptists on this board.


This site isn't High-res enough for them to read easily.
2012-10-30 08:02:02 PM  
1 votes:

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"


Probably because most Farkers are not religious, have enough education to be somewhat tech-savvy, and are relatively young.

You're not going to find a lot of 65 year-old fundamentalist baptists on this board.
2012-10-30 08:00:28 PM  
1 votes:

Hunter_Worthington: ItchyMcDoogle: Hunter_Worthington: DERP!

Nice try at a dodge though

ha-ha, you got me, I merely pointed out that Obama once opposed policies that he later advocated, or legislation that he needed, and implied that's some how the same as Romney doing the exact same thing under similar circumstances. You're totally right to denounce that as "derp". You should take your sharp political wit to the network television instead of wasting it here on Fark. Go, now, for the good of the body politic!



Yes, but there is one fine difference. Romney won't talk about it, and Obama said flat out that he had made a mistake and it was wrong to vote against the increasing it. He said that a while back. Can you find any other things that he's changed position on?

Romney has a huge history of advocating both sides of an issue. That doesn't count as changing position if you won't talk about it :

* abortion
* gay rights
* FEMA
* health care
* use of emergency rooms
* governments ability to create jobs.

Those are just off the top of my head. A little research is going to uncover more of those Romnesia episodes.
2012-10-30 07:59:24 PM  
1 votes:

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"


Have you seen / heard the alternative?
2012-10-30 07:48:15 PM  
1 votes:

mrshowrules: Nadie_AZ: This warmed the cockles of the talkers' hearts at Fox News, of course, where no one doubted that Romney was not, repeat NOT campaigning. He was just helping box up some canned goods to help in the relief effort, and, heavens, if some photographers or some voters happened to be nearby, that was swell too.

Doesn't sound beyond the scope of logic. BUT

But had anyone at the Romney campaign bothered to ask the Red Cross, they would have been informed that collecting canned is exactly what they don't need.

From their site:

The American Red Cross does not accept or solicit small quantities of individual donations of items for emergency relief purposes. Items such as collections of food, used clothing, and shoes often must be cleaned, sorted, and repackaged which impedes the valuable resources of money, time, and personnel that are needed for other aspects of our relief operation.

Link

There are dipshiats where I work which are collecting grocery store bags which they weave into this shiatty mats which they apparently are donating to Haiti because there is apparently a shortage of shiatty mats there and they lack the labour force to weave plastic bags into mats.

I'm not joking. They have collection bins on every floor and several employees are doing the weaving and I assume someone is paying the post to get them to Haiti. Well paid employees also.

I shake my head. If employees instead donated their time spent doing this in salary dollars they could probably pay to build a decent sized health clinic or school house in Haiti. What do we give them instead, shiatty plastic mats.

From their perspective it is like a billionaire knitting you a sweater. Nice sweater and the thought was nice but if you could instead had given us a fraction of the money you made in the time it took you to make that sweater we could could reduced infant mortality by 10% or have functional water treatment plan


Wha...... What ..... How are mats helping them???

Please ask one of the weavers.
2012-10-30 07:46:59 PM  
1 votes:
Romney is a whole lot of fail. On top of being sociopathic liar, he's conniving, looting, amoral, two-faced, and just a plain ol' dickhead.
2012-10-30 07:46:08 PM  
1 votes:

GoldSpider: Now we can't say "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job" without being called a racist. :(


www.butterflies.org

This image is practically the KKK. =O
2012-10-30 07:43:12 PM  
1 votes:

mrshowrules: Weaver95: Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink

I honestly can't tell if this is serious or not....

Not sure either but "B. Hussein" part would push me into the troll direction.


Nah.... The armed psycho and katrina part point to satire.
2012-10-30 07:40:49 PM  
1 votes:

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Republicans really have no sense of history that they didn't invent out of whole cloth. The reason these megalithic federal agencies exist is because we already tried the other options, and they didn't help. Before FEMA existed, there were hundreds of federal agencies doing disaster relief with no central organization or interconnectedness. Hell, it was Herbert "Hooverville" Hoover who started up the first centralized agency for helping rebuild communities after disaster. And it was a mess of squabbling and piecemeal legislation for decades until the seventies rolled all of these agencies into FEMA so that they could move quicker, cheaper, and do more than they would as a hundred infighting agencies.

Conservatives should crack open a book that isn't from the Texas school board once in a while. Why do we need all these regulations that are strangling our job creators? Well, job creators liked to lock the doors to their garment factories and hundreds of women were burned alive. They also liked that children had small hands and could more easily polish the inside of a mortar round. Why does the FDA get to tell me what to put in my body? Well because people liked to dissolve their snake oil in methanol and sell uranium-laced blankets to people with arthritis.

Anything conservatives vehemently want to dismantle only exists today because we already have seen the consequences of haphazard and local regulation. These programs didn't just appear overnight. They were the result of seeing thousands or hundreds of thousands of deaths, disfigurements, and hardship, and the programs grew organically in order to prevent them from happening again. These agencies exist for a reason.


THIS. Thank you.
2012-10-30 07:39:31 PM  
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coeyagi: Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.

I am sure all the GOP voters affected by the flooding and benefitted from government assistance agree with you.

//sadly, they really do.
///tards



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2012-10-30 07:37:46 PM  
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Weaver95: Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.

so blame the victim? that's your solution?


Yeah, that's pretty much just the tip of the iceberg of stupid you're replying to, there...

When you think Massachusetts, you certainly don't think of towns older than the actual United States that have survived far worst natural disasters than some flooding... Hell, new towns are popping up all the time here. It like a game of Rise of Nations here in the Commonwealth. If those folks aren't going to be careful where the build their town, it's their own fault is something happens to 'em. Just last year, a whole town was destroyed by a band of Mongols. Why should my tax dollars go to helping them rebuild so close to the Mongol Empire?!?
2012-10-30 07:27:46 PM  
1 votes:

ivan: Yeah, so why are most Farkers liberals?


Well, if the right could make an argument other than "OBAMA BAD", I guess it would even out.
2012-10-30 07:26:27 PM  
1 votes:

Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.


so blame the victim? that's your solution?
2012-10-30 07:25:06 PM  
1 votes:
"They'll be fine. We tithe!"

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2012-10-30 07:20:51 PM  
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ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


You should have been here 8 years ago.
2012-10-30 07:19:13 PM  
1 votes:
Mitt's going to be in a tough spot later this week... he'll be forced either to congratulate Obama for doing a good job, or to criticize him and risk looking unpresidential for playing politics during a national disaster.

I wonder how his campaign will handle this down the stretch...
2012-10-30 07:07:40 PM  
1 votes:

Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.


Yes, and those tend to be the places where food grows and where ports can be located. Have you had yourself checked for late-stage syphilis lately?
2012-10-30 07:07:07 PM  
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wildcardjack: Did someone say Greenfield, Massachusetts?

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I wonder what Penn thinks about this... Romney didn't help his hometown, so government didn't intrude into the lives of the people. Isn't that what Penn's libertarian friends would call a win?


Probably. I am sure there were enough churches and community centers to deal with the destroyed infrastructure.
2012-10-30 07:04:01 PM  
1 votes:
Did someone say Greenfield, Massachusetts?

i.usatoday.net

I wonder what Penn thinks about this... Romney didn't help his hometown, so government didn't intrude into the lives of the people. Isn't that what Penn's libertarian friends would call a win?
2012-10-30 05:16:06 PM  
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Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink


This is a poe, right?

Also:

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FEMA DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT.
2012-10-30 04:10:22 PM  
1 votes:

GAT_00: Is that seriously the best spin the Romney people have? It's not Romney's fault that he vetoed a flood control bill, it's the Democrats fault for not overriding it?


It's a given that Republicans are assholes. If the Democrats don't stop the Republicans from being assholes, then that means that the Democrats are weak and shouldn't be elected anymore. So vote Republican.
2012-10-30 03:23:01 PM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink

I honestly can't tell if this is serious or not....


Not sure either but "B. Hussein" part would push me into the troll direction.
2012-10-30 03:22:07 PM  
1 votes:

Freudian_slipknot: netizencain: If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?

Maybe they were tired. I would be a little worn out after over 700 overrides


Damn. Good info there.

So, not to lessen the fact that he vetoed the flood measures, can you find out if the house overrode him on that one too?
2012-10-30 03:16:00 PM  
1 votes:

Elzar: Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.


He was just trying to protect people's 2nd Amendment rights, like a good Republican...
2012-10-30 03:03:23 PM  
1 votes:

netizencain: If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?


Maybe they were tired. I would be a little worn out after over 700 overrides
2012-10-30 03:02:28 PM  
1 votes:
Yeah, but those Salt Lake City Olympics...he did a good job, there.
2012-10-30 03:02:17 PM  
1 votes:
Maybe it was one of the 707 they did!
2012-10-30 03:01:33 PM  
1 votes:
He did send a busload of bootstraps, so there's that
2012-10-30 02:32:27 PM  
1 votes:
If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?
2012-10-30 02:11:05 PM  
1 votes:

Lurking Fear: Flood prevention?!? That as unnecessary as health insurance. I'm not sick, why would I need health insurance?


Also, why spend money on something called volcano monitoring!
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2012-10-30 02:09:06 PM  
1 votes:
Well, I'm sure the invisible hand of the market took care of things.
2012-10-30 02:09:02 PM  
1 votes:
The Party of Personal Responsibility strikes again.
 
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