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(Daily Kos)   Why hasn't Romney talked about his record managing emergencies? Because as Governor, he vetoed a flood prevention project for a town that later flooded, then ignored requests for help from a second flooded town   (dailykos.com) divider line 271
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2012-10-31 05:37:05 AM
Login: Hunter_Worthington
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"Hunnn-ter, Ah-Worthingtunnn...."

Are you sh*tting us!?
 
2012-10-31 05:45:54 AM
Oh no, whatever y'all do, DO NOT Google "Hunter Worthington"!!!

[sets self on fire, runs around screaming, then teleports through N-space to wind up yet again in the White House bathroom nearest to the Oval Office. Alarms go off. Hilarity ensues.] 
 
2012-10-31 05:55:37 AM

Crapinoleum: The most senior person in his administration, the city's mayor, could get in touch with was the lieutenant governor's chief of staff.

That's the worst use of commas I've ever seen in a sentence. Sucks the meaning right out of it.


Don't you see! The city's mayor IS Mitt Romney!
 
2012-10-31 06:04:35 AM
And in another post ck819 said:
"Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know..."

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias...


So you're not here alot but you've noticed 'most of the political headlines were anti Romney'.
What are the chances of that happening to you, maybe you're a wizard?

Are you a wizard?
 
2012-10-31 06:28:05 AM
Elzar 2012-10-30 03:12:49 PM

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

OK, the link goes to a Google Search for "Waconda oil spill", resulting in local news pieces about a levee malfunction in a town in Illinois in 2011, in which no oil spill whatsoever was involved.

Additionally...you really do not know who was President of the United States in 2005!?
 
2012-10-31 06:33:36 AM

Elzar: what about Guantanimo?


Look at how stupid you are.
 
2012-10-31 06:47:17 AM

Vodka Zombie: This is a guy who thinks it'd be great idea to privatize disaster response and relief so assholes can further profit off the misfortune of others.

There isn't a single decent or moral bone in Romney's entire body, it seems. The man's every decision and action is guided solely by greed.


And unfortunately half of all Americans have been programmed to see that as a good thing.
 
2012-10-31 07:26:07 AM

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


I don't think they are.

Most are going to support Dems, but that doesn't mean they are liberal.

The Republican party has gone pants on the head retarted to the point they are debating if a woman who is raped should have to carry the baby. A lot of then honestly want to get rid of FEMA, or have it privitized.
 
2012-10-31 07:29:19 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Republicans really have no sense of history that they didn't invent out of whole cloth. The reason these megalithic federal agencies exist is because we already tried the other options, and they didn't help. Before FEMA existed, there were hundreds of federal agencies doing disaster relief with no central organization or interconnectedness. Hell, it was Herbert "Hooverville" Hoover who started up the first centralized agency for helping rebuild communities after disaster. And it was a mess of squabbling and piecemeal legislation for decades until the seventies rolled all of these agencies into FEMA so that they could move quicker, cheaper, and do more than they would as a hundred infighting agencies.

Conservatives should crack open a book that isn't from the Texas school board once in a while. Why do we need all these regulations that are strangling our job creators? Well, job creators liked to lock the doors to their garment factories and hundreds of women were burned alive. They also liked that children had small hands and could more easily polish the inside of a mortar round. Why does the FDA get to tell me what to put in my body? Well because people liked to dissolve their snake oil in methanol and sell uranium-laced blankets to people with arthritis.

Anything conservatives vehemently want to dismantle only exists today because we already have seen the consequences of haphazard and local regulation. These programs didn't just appear overnight. They were the result of seeing thousands or hundreds of thousands of deaths, disfigurements, and hardship, and the programs grew organically in order to prevent them from happening again. These agencies exist for a reason.


I actually wrote something about this a couple weeks ago.

http://occupiedmariner.blogspot.com/2012/10/self-regulation-in-free-ma rket.html?m=1

/and yes, i am aware that my blog sucks.
 
2012-10-31 07:44:17 AM

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


It's not that most farkers are liberals. It's that the Republican party is so derp-tastic right now that pretty much every non-liberal that tries to interject typical GOP talking points gets handily shut down. The only people left are the trolls that still post 5 month-ago-debunked gibberish and don't stick around long enough to see it responded too. Occasionally you'll see someone stick around and try and defend said talking points, but it never lasts long, because it's hard to be wrong all the time.
 
2012-10-31 08:21:00 AM
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2012-10-31 08:42:23 AM
Daily Kos always shows only one side of the story since it's basically an echo chamber for liberals, who are afflicted with a mental disorder called liberalism that is spread through self-pity.

In many cases, local towns refuse to take reasonable precautions against flood or other disasters, and then keep bumping the cost upstairs to the rest of the state. A smart manager will stop this by refusing them aid, and then letting the disaster play out so that the local voters replace their incompetent local leaders and stop bilking the rest of the state's citizens for their own incompetence.

That's a few logical steps too far for the Daily Kos cheerleading crowd, but no one intelligent reads Daily Kos anyway. They make Fox News look like saints.
 
2012-10-31 08:44:58 AM

sodomizer: Daily Kos always shows only one side of the story since it's basically an echo chamber for liberals, who are afflicted with a mental disorder called liberalism that is spread through self-pity.


'New troll here.' Plonk.
 
2012-10-31 08:47:24 AM

Animatronik: time to get rid of the BO


I've always found a shower helps with that. You should try it.
 
2012-10-31 08:56:34 AM

sodomizer: Daily Kos always shows only one side of the story since it's basically an echo chamber for liberals, who are afflicted with a mental disorder called liberalism that is spread through self-pity.

In many cases, local towns refuse to take reasonable precautions against flood or other disasters, and then keep bumping the cost upstairs to the rest of the state. A smart manager will stop this by refusing them aid, and then letting the disaster play out so that the local voters replace their incompetent local leaders and stop bilking the rest of the state's citizens for their own incompetence.

That's a few logical steps too far for the Daily Kos cheerleading crowd, but no one intelligent reads Daily Kos anyway. They make Fox News look like saints.


By refusing them aid kids could be killed. By defunding state emrgency groups kids could be killed.

A smart manager would stop it by requiring towns to save ro contribute X amount of money to an emergency fund.
 
2012-10-31 09:21:49 AM

netizencain: Freudian_slipknot: netizencain: If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?

Maybe they were tired. I would be a little worn out after over 700 overrides

Damn. Good info there.

So, not to lessen the fact that he vetoed the flood measures, can you find out if the house overrode him on that one too?


Jesus. This guy says he can work across the aisle in the spirit of national compromise and he's got that sitting on his record as MAGov?

"Here's a bill to sign, Mitt! We all agree it's awesome."
"No. Vetoed"
"Lol! We love it so much we're going to override that veto. But nice try, dick-gargler."
 
2012-10-31 09:57:12 AM

smartaleq: Huggermugger: Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink

WTF is " armed psycho reform legislation"? I have never heard of such a thing. Google reveals nothing.

I believe that is the elegantly stated Poe's Law version of "gun control". Basically, he's playing a conservative lambasting Obama for not passing "gun control" - but calling it something different to hide the ball from people trying to gauge his trolling. Gun control = bad, psycho control = good, gun control = psycho control *headsplosion* Another good technique used is his first paragraph dig at Guantanimo - policy wise its as far off topic as is possible. Overall, I would rate this troll as 9.7-9.8, but the Russian judge may have a different opinion.


Nyet, is wery good troll.
 
2012-10-31 09:58:45 AM
Rmoney - the federal govt does not have the money to pay for this type of event (we are just borrowing it from China) so we need to shift the expense to the states. I hope you are listening Texas as you are the largest single recipient.
 
2012-10-31 10:11:22 AM

sodomizer: Daily Kos always shows only one side of the story since it's basically an echo chamber for liberals, who are afflicted with a mental disorder called liberalism that is spread through self-pity.

In many cases, local towns refuse to take reasonable precautions against flood or other disasters, and then keep bumping the cost upstairs to the rest of the state. A smart manager will stop this by refusing them aid, and then letting the disaster play out so that the local voters replace their incompetent local leaders and stop bilking the rest of the state's citizens for their own incompetence.

That's a few logical steps too far for the Daily Kos cheerleading crowd, but no one intelligent reads Daily Kos anyway. They make Fox News look like saints.


This......is what Republicans actually believe in. Yes, you read that right, folks, let the common people die and lose everything, and hopefully it will teach them a lesson in bootstrappyness. Because if there's anyone that deserves to die and lose everything in this kind of situation, it's the kind of people that pay taxes and live week-to-week, not the douche-bags up top who make the decisions that lead to these problems. Oh wait, that's because it's the Republican's who are generally up top in situations like this. Yeah, nothing else to see here, carry on.

Romney/Ryan/Ayn Rand 2012. Fark you, I got mine, in purest form.
 
2012-10-31 01:09:14 PM

MyRandomName: So what is the excuse for the last 10 years since Romney was governor?


Nice maths. Governor Romney left office in early 2007. That's a bit over 5 years ago, not 10. Still a right while, I grant you, but doubling the time is a bit more deceptive than a rounding error. By your reckoning, President Bush left office almost two terms ago, and yet here stands President Obama, seeking another term.

arobb00: Maybe, JUST MAYBE, the people who submitted it did NOT give the proper info... they may have ommitted key details that they did not know they needed to include. FTFA it says he vetoed it due to not enough details. Maybe the plan was not properly submitted. No one is discussing that; as usual everyone is running with is "ooh he vetoed a flood prevention plan...blah blah... he is so despicable.. blah blah... typical conservative...". Oh and then the town flooded. TWICE. Well, how long would it have taken to enact the flood prevention plan? Would it have been completed in time to prevent said flooding? And if the submitters of the plan really DID fail to give the required details then how the hell is that Romney's fault. Not saying it isn't or is but come on people, look at BOTH sides of it instead of jumping on the bashing bandwagon.


That's fair enough. Rather, you raise a good moot. Remember, Peabody started being settled in about 1626, and was built up over many years, so it does lack some modern infrastructure. The plan to mitigate the floods, and this project still hasn't been begun, involves widening the culverts under Main Street and making sure they're clean in case of heavy rainfall. Now, given the budget, it will likely involve tearing up Peabody square and redirecting traffic at certain times for up to 4.5 years because of the third and fourth opinions and the need to entertain competing bids before they can start. It's a big project for a small town. So when Governor Romney vetoed the project in 2004, which included $5.7million from Massachusetts and $22million in federal dollars, he condemned the town to an underfunded limbo of plans and proposals that they now can't afford, given the economy and spending limits.

The first major flood in question hit Peabody in the spring of 2004. Governor Romney asked President Bush to declare the county (as well as two others) a federal disaster zone, and requested aid moneys. He didn't want to pony up any Commonwealth dollars to help, but he had no problem with receiving federal aid from the same agencies he's recently been harping on about eliminating.

The second major flood hit Peabody on Mothers' Day weekend 2006.

State legislators and local officials back in 2004 immediately denied that they hadn't given the Governor enough information, citing the reports and budgets they'd filed. At the time (not in retrospect like this article), the Governor claimed that he had tried to phone the involved parties to get clarification and more info, but couldn't reach them, and so had no choice but to veto the project that the state legislature had already approved. Even if this were true, which everyone outside the Romney campaign denies, it's possible that expecting people dealing with three feet of water throughout the centre of town to be sitting by the phones is pure madness. But that was Governor Romney's excuse: he couldn't get them on the phone (note that he didn't even bother to go there in 2004), so he blithely vetoed the flood-prevention project.

Besides that, it illustrates the adversarial stance he took with the legislature: they passed bills and made proposals, and he vetoed them. Then, usually, they overrode his vetoes, often unanimously (meaning even the 15-odd% Republicans thought he was being an asshole). Americans have already experienced a Congress who have said no to everything; do you really need a President who will do the same?

Thoreau wrote that "That government is best which governs not at all; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have," but springing paralytic government on citizens at random doesn't count as preparation. Suddenly saying "no" to everything isn't responsible governance.

sodomizer: In many cases, local towns refuse to take reasonable precautions against flood or other disasters, and then keep bumping the cost upstairs to the rest of the state. A smart manager will stop this by refusing them aid, and then letting the disaster play out so that the local voters replace their incompetent local leaders and stop bilking the rest of the state's citizens for their own incompetence.


Absolutely, in many cases. But let's look at this case: that's exactly what Governor Romney did at a higher level: he refused to take reasonable precautions and asked for federal aid to keep from having to pay for infrastructure improvements. He denied funding at the state (or, rather, Commonwealth) level in hopes that federal funding would help him out. In other words, he passed the buck. That's precisely your complaint, only done on a grander scale. MA voters didn't even have the chance to vote Romney out, he didn't bother to run again because his numbers were so abysmal and his goals had been set on a higher office. How is this... candidate worth a single vote?

As the Governor of Massachusetts, Romney wanted the federal government to pay for local improvements. As prospective President, he wants the several states or private industry to pay for everything. He sells campaign gear made in China, presumably because it was cheaper than having the stuff made in America. He doesn't care about cost, he just doesn't want to take responsibility for it. Or for anything.

I like Republicans. I consider myself conservative in many ways (I favour gay marriage, in fact, because I'm a conservative-- what people do in their own homes and in their churches is none of the government's damn business). I've voted R in past, and my ideology often meshes with theirs. But if Governor Romney is they best their national process can sustain, then to Hell with them this cycle.
 
2012-11-01 12:55:10 AM

Alphax: 'New troll here.' Plonk.


More B-Team trolls.
 
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