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(Daily Kos)   Why hasn't Romney talked about his record managing emergencies? Because as Governor, he vetoed a flood prevention project for a town that later flooded, then ignored requests for help from a second flooded town   (dailykos.com) divider line 271
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2012-10-30 09:29:51 PM

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


Because there is no difference between what actual republicans say and what people who troll the internet say. None.

Many are not liberals but they are sick of the derp
 
2012-10-30 09:32:32 PM

MrSplifferton: Obviously he was too busy getting contracts in China to make his campaign hats
[i1128.photobucket.com image 480x284]


Ha! I hadn't seen that.

Jeez, you'd think rule #1 for people running a Presidential campaign would be to make sure your campaign gear is made in the USA.
 
2012-10-30 09:33:16 PM

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"


He's the best Republican president in my lifetime.
 
2012-10-30 09:33:30 PM

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


People with empathy tend to hang out together
 
2012-10-30 09:37:52 PM

Animatronik: coyo: Animatronik: This is a lame, one-sided attempt by Obamafanatics to exploit a natural disaster.

If we continue as we have been, we wont have to worry about Federal disaster relief because there wont be any federal money for it.


You would have more of a point if Romney proposed doing anything different. He has not laid out a single policy difference, well other than ending FEMA, Planned Parenthood, PBS and Roe V Wade.

LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget.

4 years ago Obama said he would cut the deficit but he increased it and his proposed budgets would have increased it even more, but they were so bad that his own party voted them down.

O f course, in the current unreality, Democrats have decided that, since GW GW GW, deficits dont matter, its a goddam spending spree. Well its 4 years later, time to get rid of the BO, try something new.


Actually, Obama HAS cut the deficit. The most recent budget is less red than the 2010 (Obama's first) budget. The 2013 will be less red than the 2012 as well. Yes, they're still red, but that's because Obama was honest enough to put the cost of the two wars that GWBush ran into the expense side of the budget. Bush didn't include them in his budget.
 
2012-10-30 09:45:07 PM

davidphogan: ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"

He's the best Republican president in my lifetime.


Certainly within my lifetime.
 
2012-10-30 09:46:37 PM

GoldSpider: Michael 'Doing A Heck Of A Job Brownie' Brown Berates Obama For 'Jumping On' Sandy Too Quickly


My G-d, that poor man is actually clinically insane and people are making fun of him or worse going along with him instead of getting him some desperately needed help. I can't help feeling sorry for him.
 
2012-10-30 09:49:29 PM

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?



Fark used to be more evenly divided. There actually used to be some very good debates on this site. But, as the right-wing got nuttier and nuttier, people who are earnest and intellectually honest have a tough time arguing for right-wing ideas and policies.

Even the Limbaugh crowd which actually believes all the bullshiat is less than thrilled with the prospect of voicing them outside of the echo chamber, Either they don't want to cop to them, (in the way that a racist doesn't want to tell a black joke in mixed company because he doesn't want everyone thinking he's a huge asshole) or they don't want to be made foolish trying to argue for them when their arguments generally break down into ad hominems and/or special pleading.

That just leaves the trolls. The people who mainly just want attention or want to derail actual conversation because they know it won't go well for "their side."

And it's not just fark... even the conservatives on my facebook page won't speak up much anymore... and I live in farking Alabama. I know they're there. But they don't seem eager to make themselves known the way they once did.
 
2012-10-30 09:50:51 PM

Freudian_slipknot: netizencain: Budget line item vetos. A bill probably has hundreds of things that he can line out. Again, I'd like a percentage to make a better judgement. Otherwise it's just a SQUIRREL

I think that, regardless of the number of vetos, with an override number like that (many unanimous, apparently) combined with a 34% approval rating at the end of his term, you can feel free to wonder what the f*ck he was doing as governor.

That said, "The fruitless vetoes include some that Romney makes a point of boasting about. On June 15, Romney gave a speech at the National Right to Life Convention Forum where he spoke at length about his vetoes of "pro-choice legislation." He vetoed a bill allowing pharmacists to dispense the morning-after pill without a prescription and another streamlining the process for scientists conducting embryonic stem-cell research. Both vetoes, however, were overturned.

Romney also vetoed a minimum wage increase, and a bill that legalized over-the-counter sales of hypodermic needles. The Legislature overrode both vetoes.

It's worth noting the General Court, Massachusetts' legislative body, was overwhelmingly Democratic while Romney was governor. Even now, the House consists of 141 Democrats and only 19 Republicans, while the Senate has 34 Democrats, five Republicans and one vacant seat. But in some cases even the Republicans went against Romney. His minimum wage veto was overridden unanimously, for example. In that instance the House voted against him 152 to 0, and minutes later the Senate voted 38 to 0."


eraser8: Lando Lincoln: Yeah, but those Salt Lake City Olympics...he did a good job, there.

Of course. After the federal government paid billions into it, how could it fail?


Sonnuva, that was on my birthday. Why must he ruin my day so farking much?
 
2012-10-30 09:53:05 PM

theknuckler_33: Lando Lincoln: shanrick: I'm a 65 year-old fundamentalist baptist and I'm voting for Obama.

Probably because you think that Mormons and Papists and Satanists are one and the same.

Don't forget that devil inspired Catholic on the ticket!


Which one?

I find it interesting that there are no WASPs on either ticket this election.
 
2012-10-30 09:55:20 PM

fusillade762: theknuckler_33: Lando Lincoln: shanrick: I'm a 65 year-old fundamentalist baptist and I'm voting for Obama.

Probably because you think that Mormons and Papists and Satanists are one and the same.

Don't forget that devil inspired Catholic on the ticket!

Which one?

I find it interesting that there are no WASPs on either ticket this election.


Yeah, true. This must be why there is so much rancor from the evangelical derposphere. Regardless of who wins, they lose.
 
2012-10-30 10:01:11 PM

Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.


So, in other words...

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-30 10:02:41 PM

technicolor-misfit: ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


Fark used to be more evenly divided. There actually used to be some very good debates on this site. But, as the right-wing got nuttier and nuttier, people who are earnest and intellectually honest have a tough time arguing for right-wing ideas and policies.

Even the Limbaugh crowd which actually believes all the bullshiat is less than thrilled with the prospect of voicing them outside of the echo chamber, Either they don't want to cop to them, (in the way that a racist doesn't want to tell a black joke in mixed company because he doesn't want everyone thinking he's a huge asshole) or they don't want to be made foolish trying to argue for them when their arguments generally break down into ad hominems and/or special pleading.

That just leaves the trolls. The people who mainly just want attention or want to derail actual conversation because they know it won't go well for "their side."

And it's not just fark... even the conservatives on my facebook page won't speak up much anymore... and I live in farking Alabama. I know they're there. But they don't seem eager to make themselves known the way they once did.


I don't know. I'm leftish and generally enjoy reading fark comments. I think a more conservative version of me may not enjoy reading it so much. Not necessarily by the correctness/logic of it, but just sheer numbers. Any earnest Limbaugh conservative may or may not be ashamed of his views, but will quickly get overwhelmed by posting here. I have made an alt and posted right wing screeds a time or two before(I know I know I'm sorry, it sounded fun at the time) and it was farking impossible to keep up with all the arguments/general hatred lobbed back at me. It was WORK. I then understood exactly why randomjsa takes one dump in a thread then runs away.

I remember from 2001-2004 that it was even here, but the soul of the place was won by the left by (imo) the failure of the Bush presidency(maybe Terry Shiavo too). Once a critical ratio was reached, it became impossible for the right to keep up. Now only pot shot artists live here. Viewed properly, I find them the most entertaining people here.
 
2012-10-30 10:02:47 PM

The Larch: Weaver95: Animatronik:
LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget..

yes, apparently by giving the rich more tax cuts. i'm still not sure how that's supposed to work....

In the spirit of bipartisan compromise, he's going to allow congress to choose the tax deductions to eliminate and the spending to cut.

That way, Romney gets credit for the tax cuts, and Congress gets blamed for the deficit.


Of course, this is until the next Democrat takes office. Then, the deficit and any other problems are retroactively their fault on day one. That's how the Party of Personal Responsibility operates.
 
2012-10-30 10:03:48 PM

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?



Wait, this is Fark, right?


Since no one else will be straight with you, I tell you why. The reason is that your mother's a whore.
 
2012-10-30 10:15:02 PM

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"


Because you touch yourself at night.

Seriously, you've been registered on this site since 2006; you should have learned to troll better than that by now.
 
2012-10-30 10:16:31 PM

arobb00: Maybe, JUST MAYBE, the people who submitted it did NOT give the proper info... they may have ommitted key details that they did not know they needed to include. FTFA it says he vetoed it due to not enough details. Maybe the plan was not properly submitted. No one is discussing that; as usual everyone is running with is "ooh he vetoed a flood prevention plan...blah blah... he is so despicable.. blah blah... typical conservative...". Oh and then the town flooded. TWICE. Well, how long would it have taken to enact the flood prevention plan? Would it have been completed in time to prevent said flooding? And if the submitters of the plan really DID fail to give the required details then how the hell is that Romney's fault. Not saying it isn't or is but come on people, look at BOTH sides of it instead of jumping on the bashing bandwagon.


I can understand bureaucracy farking things up. Maybe there was some legitimate SNAFU in there, I don't know. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that part.

BUT

When Greenfield flooded in 2005 he was out of state and unreachable for several days. Was he not keeping abreast of disasters in the state he governs? Could he not take a moment to call them up and offer help from the state? One would assume that his Chief of Staff would call him and say "Hey, these people need some help".
 
2012-10-30 10:18:06 PM

Jgok: arobb00: Maybe, JUST MAYBE, the people who submitted it did NOT give the proper info... they may have ommitted key details that they did not know they needed to include. FTFA it says he vetoed it due to not enough details. Maybe the plan was not properly submitted. No one is discussing that; as usual everyone is running with is "ooh he vetoed a flood prevention plan...blah blah... he is so despicable.. blah blah... typical conservative...". Oh and then the town flooded. TWICE. Well, how long would it have taken to enact the flood prevention plan? Would it have been completed in time to prevent said flooding? And if the submitters of the plan really DID fail to give the required details then how the hell is that Romney's fault. Not saying it isn't or is but come on people, look at BOTH sides of it instead of jumping on the bashing bandwagon.

I can understand bureaucracy farking things up. Maybe there was some legitimate SNAFU in there, I don't know. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that part.

BUT

When Greenfield flooded in 2005 he was out of state and unreachable for several days. Was he not keeping abreast of disasters in the state he governs? Could he not take a moment to call them up and offer help from the state? One would assume that his Chief of Staff would call him and say "Hey, these people need some help".


"I can't be seen helping people! I'm running for office for Pete's sake!"
 
2012-10-30 10:22:56 PM

Dr. Farkenstein: ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"

Because you touch yourself at night.

Seriously, you've been registered on this site since 2006; you should have learned to troll better than that by now.


Troll or not, I do think Fark is more pro-Obama lately. I've been around since about 2001 and this site used to be filled with pro-Bush people.

I think the nature of it goes along with what's popular. Republicans are all laughing stocks, just like Democrats were ten years ago ( Howard Dean and John Kerry and John Edwards and who was that that soldiers mother who protested everywhere...)
 
2012-10-30 10:25:52 PM

Freudian_slipknot: Romney also vetoed a minimum wage increase, and a bill that legalized over-the-counter sales of hypodermic needles.


Because the only thing hypodermic needles are used for is shooting up smack... God what an idiot.

/18 gage needles give me butthurt.
 
2012-10-30 10:27:21 PM
Romney did single-handedly save the US auto industry... so at least there's that.
 
2012-10-30 10:28:10 PM

Stibium: Freudian_slipknot: Romney also vetoed a minimum wage increase, and a bill that legalized over-the-counter sales of hypodermic needles.

Because the only thing hypodermic needles are used for is shooting up smack... God what an idiot.

/18 gage needles give me butthurt.


Wow, what a dick.

/insulin pump decided to die on me after my doctor left for the day
//went to walgreens and bought me some emergency needles
 
2012-10-30 10:31:38 PM

mrshowrules: There are dipshiats where I work which are collecting grocery store bags which they weave into this shiatty mats which they apparently are donating to Haiti because there is apparently a shortage of shiatty mats there and they lack the labour force to weave plastic bags into mats.


Wow. The fact that they feel that Haitians need welcome mats above food, water, and shelter is just so sad.

CSB: My girlfriend has an old friend who got sent to prison for a while. Last month, and a few times prior, he sent her a woven necklace and cross made of grocery bags. It's actually pretty cool in a "found art" sort of way.
 
2012-10-30 10:40:29 PM

StopLurkListen: Dr. Farkenstein: ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"

Because you touch yourself at night.

Seriously, you've been registered on this site since 2006; you should have learned to troll better than that by now.

Troll or not, I do think Fark is more pro-Obama lately. I've been around since about 2001 and this site used to be filled with pro-Bush people.

I think the nature of it goes along with what's popular. Republicans are all laughing stocks, just like Democrats were ten years ago ( Howard Dean and John Kerry and John Edwards and who was that that soldiers mother who protested everywhere...)


Leave Howard Dean YYEEEEEAAAAAAAALLLLOOOOOOONNNNNNNEEEE!!!
 
2012-10-30 10:43:38 PM

tallguywithglasseson: The most senior person in his administration, the city's mayor, could get in touch with was the lieutenant governor's chief of staff

Talk about disasters. Maybe you should give up blogging, and get a new hobby like knitting or something.


came in here to see if anyone else's head did this:
3.bp.blogspot.com
upon reading that sentence.

leaving satisfied

//hot

 
2012-10-30 10:44:06 PM
Way to break the formatting on the page for mobile readers, herrDrFarkenstein... :/
 
2012-10-30 10:47:09 PM
I was talking to one of my best friends today - Boston born and bred, now living in Georgia. Her parents retired to the Maggie Valley area of NC. She told me her parents, MA natives, very conservative Irish Italian Catholics, hate Romney with the intensity of a thousand burning suns and are not making too many friends with their southern neighbors by telling them, in their New England accents, about how much of a lying , smarmy sack of shiat he is. I personally would take the word of someone who lived under his governorship into consideration. In fact, I have.
 
2012-10-30 10:53:14 PM

Hunter_Worthington: As a United States Senator, Barrack Obama voted against raising the debt ceiling. But as President, he needed it raised. So, hypocrite, or pandering politician?

You be the judge.


My judgment is that Fark is overrun by morons. Not you, of course. Expressing such an opinion would get my post deleted. it seems.

But bye. I really don't care whether folks are sincere morons, or only emulating them. I haven't got the patience anymore.
 
2012-10-30 10:54:19 PM

Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.


didnt the government force people to relocate OUT of the mississippi river flood plain in the last couple of decades? I seem to remember reading/hearing about the last couple of families being moved out ...
 
2012-10-30 10:56:47 PM
Subby, that's called Compassionate Conservatism -- otherwise known as Tough Love.
 
2012-10-30 11:05:51 PM
You stand with Mitt, you stand on your own
 
2012-10-30 11:19:45 PM
So, Mitt doesn't know his

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Your_Midnight_Man:

from

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hackhix:
 
2012-10-30 11:23:02 PM

It's pretty clear to see who is willing to help the American people when they need it.

oi49.tinypic.com
 
2012-10-30 11:33:16 PM
Here is how a PRESIDENT deals with a disaster.

"My instructions to the federal agency has been, 'Do not figure out why we can't do something. I want you to figure out how we do something. I want you to cut through red tape. I want you to cut through bureaucracy.' There's no excuse for inaction at this point," Obama said during a visit to the headquarters of the American Red Cross. "I want every agency to lean forward and to make sure that we are getting the resources where they need -- where they're needed as quickly as possible."
 
2012-10-30 11:36:31 PM

StopLurkListen: Dr. Farkenstein: ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"

Because you touch yourself at night.

Seriously, you've been registered on this site since 2006; you should have learned to troll better than that by now.

Troll or not, I do think Fark is more pro-Obama lately. I've been around since about 2001 and this site used to be filled with pro-Bush people.

I think the nature of it goes along with what's popular. Republicans are all laughing stocks, just like Democrats were ten years ago ( Howard Dean and John Kerry and John Edwards and who was that that soldiers mother who protested everywhere...)


To be fair, it has a lot to do with how batshiat crazy the GOP has become. I am no liberal but I sure as hell wont vote for anyone claiming to represent the GoP.
 
2012-10-30 11:38:32 PM
Glad this point is getting reinforced right now. Not because I like Obama per se, but it is necessary that the world realizes what a dick Romney was to the state and how little he actually did for us.

\not from Peabody or Greenfield, but Peabody especially has a reputation for flooding for EVERYthing.
\\tough wanting a moderate conservative and being stuck with this jackass as a candidate
 
2012-10-30 11:48:22 PM
October Surprise indeed...and it is emblazoned with Romney's own words.
 
2012-10-30 11:56:43 PM

FriarReb98: Glad this point is getting reinforced right now. Not because I like Obama per se, but it is necessary that the world realizes what a dick Romney was to the state and how little he actually did for us.

\not from Peabody or Greenfield, but Peabody especially has a reputation for flooding for EVERYthing.
\\tough wanting a moderate conservative and being stuck with this jackass as a candidate


Well, at this point, Romney probably won't make anymore progress until Election Day. If that happens, you might get Christie as a candidate in 2016. He's earning a lot of respect for how he's handliing this.
 
2012-10-31 12:03:26 AM
It's like Romney lives in his own private alternate universe.
 
2012-10-31 12:04:00 AM

findthefish: October Surprise indeed...and it is emblazoned with Romney's own words.


This. If Romney wins after blasting FEMA while NEW YORK F*CKING CITY is underwater, this nation is well and truly beyond help.
 
2012-10-31 12:10:01 AM
www.dirtandseeds.com

And can you believe these 'scientists' want to waste your taxpayer dollars studying volcanos? I mean, what could possibly go wrong?


farm2.static.flickr.com

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-10-31 12:22:26 AM
To be fair, there are a lot of people who are proud of being assholes who eagerly want a master asshole to represent their point of view.
 
2012-10-31 12:37:01 AM
Romney would be President Brownie.

I think we can all be happy that Sandy occurred under Obama rather Romney, who wants to end FEMA, and hand the responsibility for handling natural disasters over to the states, who can't afford it.
 
2012-10-31 12:51:02 AM

Goodfella: [www.dirtandseeds.com image 460x288]

And can you believe these 'scientists' want to waste your taxpayer dollars studying volcanos? I mean, what could possibly go wrong?


[farm2.static.flickr.com image 500x313]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x323]


We could become Italy???

MY GOD, IT'S WORSE THAN I THOUGHT!!!
 
2012-10-31 12:54:20 AM
Newt Gingrich was on Fox news today saying that Mitt Romney is going to carry Ohio, Romney is going to win the election by 8 points, and also his coattails are going to result in a Republican Senate.

i.imgur.com

Won't be long now.
 
2012-10-31 01:06:46 AM

Krymson Tyde: I heard Mrs. Romney say before a debate Mitt always writes "Dad" on a piece of paper to remind himself to not do anything that would embarrass his father.

Yeah, about that...


Wasn't one of the knocks on George Romney that he was prone to saying things that'd embarrass himself?

/Like father, like son
 
2012-10-31 01:20:52 AM

eraser8: dickfreckle: Weaver95: Mugato: Why won't he make with his tax returns? He's a shady motherfarker, who hasn't got that already?

Even among GOP voters, the answer I get most from them is that they're not voting FOR Romney, they're voting against Obama. not exactly a ringing endorsement for the Republican party. At this point the only thing holding them together is the fact that they hate Obama.

Conversely, I'm not voting for Obama as much as I'm voting to keep these genuinely evil GOP skid marks from tanking my country. As a president, he's nowhere near liberal enough for me - but he's also not crazy, evil, or particularly motivated by greed. He's a solid man who seems to have the best interests of my country at heart.

You know the "GOP is the worst enemy this country has ever faced" meme? Well, yeah. That's not even hyperbole. They're just that farking awful.

Quite right.

I don't think many Farkers have paid much attention to my political judgments over the years -- but, if they have, they'll know I've never been a huge Barack Obama fan.

But, I've always been against the Republicans holding the country hostage for its temerity of electing a Democrat to the presidency.

That, more than anything, is why I voted for Barack Obama this year: to show Republicans that their ransom will not be paid, that I will not negotiate with terrorists.


I know you are being truthful here- I have paid attention. I respect your decision and understand it.
 
2012-10-31 01:23:55 AM

Mugato: Why won't he make with his tax returns? He's a shady motherfarker, who hasn't got that already?


I bet they got lost in the wake of Sandy's destruction.
 
2012-10-31 02:00:41 AM
The most senior person in his administration, the city's mayor, could get in touch with was the lieutenant governor's chief of staff.

That's the worst use of commas I've ever seen in a sentence. Sucks the meaning right out of it.
 
2012-10-31 02:32:04 AM
Via Infinito:

I really liked McCain and if he had not insulted my entire gender by picking Palin as his VP, I would have seriously considered voting for him.

[Obama is] Not as liberal as I'd like and he's definitely no Bill Clinton.


I'm sorry, but how the hell do you reconcile these two statements? If Obama isn't liberal enough for your taste, what the blistering fark did you like about McCain?
 
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