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(Daily Kos)   Why hasn't Romney talked about his record managing emergencies? Because as Governor, he vetoed a flood prevention project for a town that later flooded, then ignored requests for help from a second flooded town   (dailykos.com ) divider line 271
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2012-10-30 02:07:45 PM  
Heckuv'a job there, Mittens.
 
2012-10-30 02:09:02 PM  
The Party of Personal Responsibility strikes again.
 
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2012-10-30 02:09:06 PM  
Well, I'm sure the invisible hand of the market took care of things.
 
2012-10-30 02:09:38 PM  
Flood prevention?!? That as unnecessary as health insurance. I'm not sick, why would I need health insurance?
 
2012-10-30 02:11:05 PM  

Lurking Fear: Flood prevention?!? That as unnecessary as health insurance. I'm not sick, why would I need health insurance?


Also, why spend money on something called volcano monitoring!
 
2012-10-30 02:23:26 PM  
This is a guy who thinks it'd be great idea to privatize disaster response and relief so assholes can further profit off the misfortune of others.

There isn't a single decent or moral bone in Romney's entire body, it seems. The man's every decision and action is guided solely by greed.
 
2012-10-30 02:25:38 PM  
And of course Romney was asked 14 times about FEMA and refused to answer any of them.
 
2012-10-30 02:32:27 PM  
If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?
 
2012-10-30 03:01:33 PM  
He did send a busload of bootstraps, so there's that
 
2012-10-30 03:02:02 PM  
the least he could have done was sent them some bootstraps.
 
2012-10-30 03:02:17 PM  
Maybe it was one of the 707 they did!
 
2012-10-30 03:02:28 PM  
Yeah, but those Salt Lake City Olympics...he did a good job, there.
 
2012-10-30 03:02:38 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: He did send a busload of bootstraps, so there's that


so how did it feel to spend a moment inside my head?
 
2012-10-30 03:03:23 PM  

netizencain: If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?


Maybe they were tired. I would be a little worn out after over 700 overrides
 
2012-10-30 03:03:56 PM  

Weaver95: MaudlinMutantMollusk: He did send a busload of bootstraps, so there's that

so how did it feel to spend a moment inside my head?


Is that what it was?

/I thought I'd finally gotten one of those LSD flashbacks I was promised
//lyin' bestids
 
2012-10-30 03:08:38 PM  
I heard Mrs. Romney say before a debate Mitt always writes "Dad" on a piece of paper to remind himself to not do anything that would embarrass his father.

Yeah, about that...
 
2012-10-30 03:11:46 PM  

Lurking Fear: Flood prevention?!? That as unnecessary as health insurance. I'm not sick, why would I need health insurance?


It's just like your car insurance paying for oil changes!
 
2012-10-30 03:11:48 PM  
And I threw my hat into the ring for him during the caucuses.

:-/

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Weaver95: MaudlinMutantMollusk: He did send a busload of bootstraps, so there's that

so how did it feel to spend a moment inside my head?

Is that what it was?


Need a towel? Or a moment by yourself for reflection?

;)
 
2012-10-30 03:12:49 PM  
More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink
 
2012-10-30 03:14:34 PM  

Freudian_slipknot: netizencain: If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?

Maybe they were tired. I would be a little worn out after over 700 overrides


Out of over 800 vetoes. Yipes.

I wonder what his signing-to-veto ratio was. Did he veto most stuff that come across his desk? A third? If it's a big number, you have to kind of wonder what the f*ck he was doing as governor.
 
2012-10-30 03:16:00 PM  

Elzar: Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.


He was just trying to protect people's 2nd Amendment rights, like a good Republican...
 
2012-10-30 03:19:46 PM  

Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink


I honestly can't tell if this is serious or not....
 
2012-10-30 03:22:07 PM  

Freudian_slipknot: netizencain: If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?

Maybe they were tired. I would be a little worn out after over 700 overrides


Damn. Good info there.

So, not to lessen the fact that he vetoed the flood measures, can you find out if the house overrode him on that one too?
 
2012-10-30 03:22:25 PM  
gothamist.com
 
2012-10-30 03:22:28 PM  

xanadian: Freudian_slipknot: netizencain: If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?

Maybe they were tired. I would be a little worn out after over 700 overrides

Out of over 800 vetoes. Yipes.

I wonder what his signing-to-veto ratio was. Did he veto most stuff that come across his desk? A third? If it's a big number, you have to kind of wonder what the f*ck he was doing as governor.


He was saying "its all about me-me-me"

and flying about the nation complaining about MA.
 
2012-10-30 03:23:01 PM  

Weaver95: Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink

I honestly can't tell if this is serious or not....


Not sure either but "B. Hussein" part would push me into the troll direction.
 
2012-10-30 03:29:18 PM  

Weaver95: I honestly can't tell if this is serious or not....


I only just figured it out myself, it's not serious
 
2012-10-30 03:30:57 PM  
The private sector will rebuild everything better than before.
 
2012-10-30 03:32:59 PM  

Weaver95: Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink

I honestly can't tell if this is serious or not....


At which point it's no longer worth worrying.

Your worst case scenario is that you put someone on ignore who thinks that that was clever and funny.
 
2012-10-30 03:33:03 PM  

xanadian: I wonder what his signing-to-veto ratio was. Did he veto most stuff that come across his desk? A third? If it's a big number, you have to kind of wonder what the f*ck he was doing as governor.


I can't seem to find a citation on how many total bills were signed into law, but the Mass legislature is only in formal sessions for a year and a half over every 2 years. Which means ~150 weeks over 4 years, ish? That boils down to about a veto a day for his entire term.

Unless someone with more smarts than me wants to correct what I've been able to glean from the 'tubes.
 
2012-10-30 03:35:40 PM  

Freudian_slipknot: xanadian: I wonder what his signing-to-veto ratio was. Did he veto most stuff that come across his desk? A third? If it's a big number, you have to kind of wonder what the f*ck he was doing as governor.

I can't seem to find a citation on how many total bills were signed into law, but the Mass legislature is only in formal sessions for a year and a half over every 2 years. Which means ~150 weeks over 4 years, ish? That boils down to about a veto a day for his entire term.

Unless someone with more smarts than me wants to correct what I've been able to glean from the 'tubes.


Budget line item vetos. A bill probably has hundreds of things that he can line out. Again, I'd like a percentage to make a better judgement. Otherwise it's just a SQUIRREL
 
2012-10-30 03:45:30 PM  

netizencain: Damn. Good info there.

So, not to lessen the fact that he vetoed the flood measures, can you find out if the house overrode him on that one too?


No, because the Massachusetts house is not in formal sessions in September of even-numbered years. Overrides need to be in formal session, since they are done with a roll call vote.

So sayeth the only local, somewhat contemporary report I could find
 
2012-10-30 03:50:59 PM  

Freudian_slipknot: netizencain: If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?

Maybe they were tired. I would be a little worn out after over 700 overrides


Is that seriously the best spin the Romney people have? It's not Romney's fault that he vetoed a flood control bill, it's the Democrats fault for not overriding it?
 
2012-10-30 03:57:28 PM  
www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com

"Mitt Romney was never governor of Massachusetts!"
 
2012-10-30 03:59:55 PM  

netizencain: Budget line item vetos. A bill probably has hundreds of things that he can line out. Again, I'd like a percentage to make a better judgement. Otherwise it's just a SQUIRREL


I think that, regardless of the number of vetos, with an override number like that (many unanimous, apparently) combined with a 34% approval rating at the end of his term, you can feel free to wonder what the f*ck he was doing as governor.

That said, "The fruitless vetoes include some that Romney makes a point of boasting about. On June 15, Romney gave a speech at the National Right to Life Convention Forum where he spoke at length about his vetoes of "pro-choice legislation." He vetoed a bill allowing pharmacists to dispense the morning-after pill without a prescription and another streamlining the process for scientists conducting embryonic stem-cell research. Both vetoes, however, were overturned.

Romney also vetoed a minimum wage increase, and a bill that legalized over-the-counter sales of hypodermic needles. The Legislature overrode both vetoes.

It's worth noting the General Court, Massachusetts' legislative body, was overwhelmingly Democratic while Romney was governor. Even now, the House consists of 141 Democrats and only 19 Republicans, while the Senate has 34 Democrats, five Republicans and one vacant seat. But in some cases even the Republicans went against Romney. His minimum wage veto was overridden unanimously, for example. In that instance the House voted against him 152 to 0, and minutes later the Senate voted 38 to 0."
 
2012-10-30 04:08:55 PM  
Why won't he make with his tax returns? He's a shady motherfarker, who hasn't got that already?
 
2012-10-30 04:09:47 PM  
This warmed the cockles of the talkers' hearts at Fox News, of course, where no one doubted that Romney was not, repeat NOT campaigning. He was just helping box up some canned goods to help in the relief effort, and, heavens, if some photographers or some voters happened to be nearby, that was swell too.

Doesn't sound beyond the scope of logic. BUT

But had anyone at the Romney campaign bothered to ask the Red Cross, they would have been informed that collecting canned is exactly what they don't need.

From their site:

The American Red Cross does not accept or solicit small quantities of individual donations of items for emergency relief purposes. Items such as collections of food, used clothing, and shoes often must be cleaned, sorted, and repackaged which impedes the valuable resources of money, time, and personnel that are needed for other aspects of our relief operation.

Link
 
2012-10-30 04:10:22 PM  

GAT_00: Is that seriously the best spin the Romney people have? It's not Romney's fault that he vetoed a flood control bill, it's the Democrats fault for not overriding it?


It's a given that Republicans are assholes. If the Democrats don't stop the Republicans from being assholes, then that means that the Democrats are weak and shouldn't be elected anymore. So vote Republican.
 
2012-10-30 04:13:08 PM  

Mugato: Why won't he make with his tax returns? He's a shady motherfarker, who hasn't got that already?


Even among GOP voters, the answer I get most from them is that they're not voting FOR Romney, they're voting against Obama. not exactly a ringing endorsement for the Republican party. At this point the only thing holding them together is the fact that they hate Obama.
 
2012-10-30 04:16:59 PM  

GAT_00: Freudian_slipknot: netizencain: If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?

Maybe they were tired. I would be a little worn out after over 700 overrides

Is that seriously the best spin the Romney people have? It's not Romney's fault that he vetoed a flood control bill, it's the Democrats fault for not overriding it?


makes you wonder about just how strong a candidate Romney really is, don't it?
 
2012-10-30 04:18:29 PM  
Everyone knows that the only true solution to all this flooding and wind damage is more tax breaks for the wealthy.
 
2012-10-30 04:22:19 PM  

Nadie_AZ: This warmed the cockles of the talkers' hearts at Fox News, of course, where no one doubted that Romney was not, repeat NOT campaigning. He was just helping box up some canned goods to help in the relief effort, and, heavens, if some photographers or some voters happened to be nearby, that was swell too.

Doesn't sound beyond the scope of logic. BUT

But had anyone at the Romney campaign bothered to ask the Red Cross, they would have been informed that collecting canned is exactly what they don't need.

From their site:

The American Red Cross does not accept or solicit small quantities of individual donations of items for emergency relief purposes. Items such as collections of food, used clothing, and shoes often must be cleaned, sorted, and repackaged which impedes the valuable resources of money, time, and personnel that are needed for other aspects of our relief operation.

Link


There are dipshiats where I work which are collecting grocery store bags which they weave into this shiatty mats which they apparently are donating to Haiti because there is apparently a shortage of shiatty mats there and they lack the labour force to weave plastic bags into mats.

I'm not joking. They have collection bins on every floor and several employees are doing the weaving and I assume someone is paying the post to get them to Haiti. Well paid employees also.

I shake my head. If employees instead donated their time spent doing this in salary dollars they could probably pay to build a decent sized health clinic or school house in Haiti. What do we give them instead, shiatty plastic mats.

From their perspective it is like a billionaire knitting you a sweater. Nice sweater and the thought was nice but if you could instead had given us a fraction of the money you made in the time it took you to make that sweater we could could reduced infant mortality by 10% or have functional water treatment plan
 
2012-10-30 04:41:38 PM  

Weaver95: Mugato: Why won't he make with his tax returns? He's a shady motherfarker, who hasn't got that already?

Even among GOP voters, the answer I get most from them is that they're not voting FOR Romney, they're voting against Obama. not exactly a ringing endorsement for the Republican party. At this point the only thing holding them together is the fact that they hate Obama.


Well that's never going to go away, so I guess they'll always have that going for them
 
2012-10-30 04:58:19 PM  
The most senior person in his administration, the city's mayor, could get in touch with was the lieutenant governor's chief of staff

Talk about disasters. Maybe you should give up blogging, and get a new hobby like knitting or something.
 
2012-10-30 05:16:06 PM  

Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink


This is a poe, right?

Also:

i3.kym-cdn.com

FEMA DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT.
 
2012-10-30 05:18:19 PM  

Weaver95: Mugato: Why won't he make with his tax returns? He's a shady motherfarker, who hasn't got that already?

Even among GOP voters, the answer I get most from them is that they're not voting FOR Romney, they're voting against Obama. not exactly a ringing endorsement for the Republican party. At this point the only thing holding them together is the fact that they hate Obama.


Conversely, I'm not voting for Obama as much as I'm voting to keep these genuinely evil GOP skid marks from tanking my country. As a president, he's nowhere near liberal enough for me - but he's also not crazy, evil, or particularly motivated by greed. He's a solid man who seems to have the best interests of my country at heart.

You know the "GOP is the worst enemy this country has ever faced" meme? Well, yeah. That's not even hyperbole. They're just that farking awful.
 
2012-10-30 05:19:55 PM  

dickfreckle:
You know the "GOP is the worst enemy this country has ever faced" meme? Well, yeah. That's not even hyperbole. They're just that farking awful.


I just don't want to live under a theocratic government. Obama isn't a theocrat and the GOP is...so the choice is pretty simple.
 
2012-10-30 05:23:44 PM  

Elzar: He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill


Isn't that where the Black Panther is from?
 
2012-10-30 05:28:14 PM  

Weaver95: dickfreckle:
You know the "GOP is the worst enemy this country has ever faced" meme? Well, yeah. That's not even hyperbole. They're just that farking awful.

I just don't want to live under a theocratic government. Obama isn't a theocrat and the GOP is...so the choice is pretty simple.


I used to get annoyed by all the "American Taliban" remarks. But the past few years in particular have made me realize that's what the GOP strives to be. And they're wrapping it in flags and calling it "Liberty."

Granted, not all Republicans think this way. But there's enough of them to genuinely unnerve me. And you gotta wonder about how many Jesus-freaks would ride on Romney's coattails should he win.
 
2012-10-30 05:43:29 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Yeah, but those Salt Lake City Olympics...he did a good job, there.


Of course. After the federal government paid billions into it, how could it fail?
 
2012-10-30 05:51:06 PM  

dickfreckle: Weaver95: Mugato: Why won't he make with his tax returns? He's a shady motherfarker, who hasn't got that already?

Even among GOP voters, the answer I get most from them is that they're not voting FOR Romney, they're voting against Obama. not exactly a ringing endorsement for the Republican party. At this point the only thing holding them together is the fact that they hate Obama.

Conversely, I'm not voting for Obama as much as I'm voting to keep these genuinely evil GOP skid marks from tanking my country. As a president, he's nowhere near liberal enough for me - but he's also not crazy, evil, or particularly motivated by greed. He's a solid man who seems to have the best interests of my country at heart.

You know the "GOP is the worst enemy this country has ever faced" meme? Well, yeah. That's not even hyperbole. They're just that farking awful.


Quite right.

I don't think many Farkers have paid much attention to my political judgments over the years -- but, if they have, they'll know I've never been a huge Barack Obama fan.

But, I've always been against the Republicans holding the country hostage for its temerity of electing a Democrat to the presidency.

That, more than anything, is why I voted for Barack Obama this year: to show Republicans that their ransom will not be paid, that I will not negotiate with terrorists.
 
2012-10-30 05:57:42 PM  
*smirk*
 
2012-10-30 06:21:59 PM  

eraser8: I don't think many Farkers have paid much attention to my political judgments over the years -- but, if they have, they'll know I've never been a huge Barack Obama fan.

But, I've always been against the Republicans holding the country hostage for its temerity of electing a Democrat to the presidency.

That, more than anything, is why I voted for Barack Obama this year: to show Republicans that their ransom will not be paid, that I will not negotiate with terrorists.


Completely understandable. I was ambivalent about Obama in 2008. I really liked McCain and if he had not insulted my entire gender by picking Palin as his VP, I would have seriously considered voting for him. That mistake made my choice for me.

I've been watching for the last 4 years. Obama isn't bad. Not as liberal as I'd like and he's definitely no Bill Clinton. But the choice this year is between the scary unhinged derp coming from the frothy right wing bigots and Barack Obama. My choice this year was not difficult. I happily voted for Obama today.
 
2012-10-30 06:44:30 PM  
Many Republicans will actually think the point made in the headline is a good thing.

Via Infinito: I've been watching for the last 4 years. Obama isn't bad. Not as liberal as I'd like and he's definitely no Bill Clinton. But the choice this year is between the scary unhinged derp coming from the frothy right wing bigots and Barack Obama. My choice this year was not difficult. I happily voted for Obama today.


Same here, but yesterday.
 
2012-10-30 06:52:11 PM  
Free market dictates that if there was no profit in saving those towns then we should let them fail.
 
2012-10-30 06:55:53 PM  

Lando Lincoln: It's a given that Republicans are assholes. If the Democrats don't stop the Republicans from being assholes, then that means that the Democrats are weak and shouldn't be elected anymore. So vote Republican.


Democrats are pussies. And pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get farked by dicks. But dicks also fark assholes. And if they didn't, your assholes would shiat all over everything.
 
2012-10-30 06:57:29 PM  

Weaver95: Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink

I honestly can't tell if this is serious or not....


Then s/he's succeeded!

/he's relatively new, but already reaching Pocket Ninja-levels of hilarity
//at least from what I've seen
 
2012-10-30 06:57:53 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-30 06:58:15 PM  

Weaver95: Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink

I honestly can't tell if this is serious or not....


Of course it's serious. A stroke is always serious.
 
2012-10-30 06:59:41 PM  

Diogenes: Elzar: He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill

Isn't that where the Black Panther is from?


60% of the time Black Panther works everytime...
 
2012-10-30 07:00:12 PM  

BMulligan: Weaver95: Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink

I honestly can't tell if this is serious or not....

Of course it's serious. A strokeheart attack is always serious.


FTFY
 
2012-10-30 07:00:26 PM  
As a United States Senator, Barrack Obama voted against raising the debt ceiling. But as President, he needed it raised. So, hypocrite, or pandering politician?

You be the judge.
 
2012-10-30 07:02:25 PM  
Hey now - play fair! Romney's record as Governor of Massachusetts, like his record at Bain Capital, is off limits.
 
2012-10-30 07:02:52 PM  

Empty Matchbook: Weaver95: Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink

I honestly can't tell if this is serious or not....

Then s/he's succeeded!

/he's relatively new, but already reaching Pocket Ninja-levels of hilarity
//at least from what I've seen


Then let's not jinx 'im.
 
2012-10-30 07:03:05 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: DERP!


Nice try at a dodge though
 
2012-10-30 07:04:01 PM  
Did someone say Greenfield, Massachusetts?

i.usatoday.net

I wonder what Penn thinks about this... Romney didn't help his hometown, so government didn't intrude into the lives of the people. Isn't that what Penn's libertarian friends would call a win?
 
2012-10-30 07:05:20 PM  

mrshowrules: Nadie_AZ: This warmed the cockles of the talkers' hearts at Fox News, of course, where no one doubted that Romney was not, repeat NOT campaigning. He was just helping box up some canned goods to help in the relief effort, and, heavens, if some photographers or some voters happened to be nearby, that was swell too.

Doesn't sound beyond the scope of logic. BUT

But had anyone at the Romney campaign bothered to ask the Red Cross, they would have been informed that collecting canned is exactly what they don't need.

From their site:

The American Red Cross does not accept or solicit small quantities of individual donations of items for emergency relief purposes. Items such as collections of food, used clothing, and shoes often must be cleaned, sorted, and repackaged which impedes the valuable resources of money, time, and personnel that are needed for other aspects of our relief operation.

Link

There are dipshiats where I work which are collecting grocery store bags which they weave into this shiatty mats which they apparently are donating to Haiti because there is apparently a shortage of shiatty mats there and they lack the labour force to weave plastic bags into mats.

I'm not joking. They have collection bins on every floor and several employees are doing the weaving and I assume someone is paying the post to get them to Haiti. Well paid employees also.

I shake my head. If employees instead donated their time spent doing this in salary dollars they could probably pay to build a decent sized health clinic or school house in Haiti. What do we give them instead, shiatty plastic mats.

From their perspective it is like a billionaire knitting you a sweater. Nice sweater and the thought was nice but if you could instead had given us a fraction of the money you made in the time it took you to make that sweater we could could reduced infant mortality by 10% or have functional water treatment plan


Goddess this is depressing.
 
2012-10-30 07:05:36 PM  
IF he gets elected, storms like this will bend him over.
 
2012-10-30 07:05:38 PM  
Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.
 
2012-10-30 07:06:25 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Yeah, but those Salt Lake City Olympics...he did a good job, there.


You mean a good job of getting money from the federal gov.

Link
 
2012-10-30 07:07:07 PM  

wildcardjack: Did someone say Greenfield, Massachusetts?

[i.usatoday.net image 490x360]

I wonder what Penn thinks about this... Romney didn't help his hometown, so government didn't intrude into the lives of the people. Isn't that what Penn's libertarian friends would call a win?


Probably. I am sure there were enough churches and community centers to deal with the destroyed infrastructure.
 
2012-10-30 07:07:40 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.


Yes, and those tend to be the places where food grows and where ports can be located. Have you had yourself checked for late-stage syphilis lately?
 
2012-10-30 07:08:48 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.


I am sure all the GOP voters affected by the flooding and benefitted from government assistance agree with you.

//sadly, they really do.
///tards
 
2012-10-30 07:08:50 PM  
I think Obama needs to capitalize off Rmoney wanting to get rid of FEMA more than he already does.
 
2012-10-30 07:10:11 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: I think Obama needs to capitalize off Rmoney wanting to get rid of FEMA more than he already does.


Yeah, but when is it no longer TOO soon? 8 am Nov. 6th? Maybe he'll sway 3 undecideds.
 
2012-10-30 07:12:43 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.


Yup because bodies of water have never ever been important to humans whatsoever.
 
2012-10-30 07:13:05 PM  

dickfreckle: Weaver95: dickfreckle:
You know the "GOP is the worst enemy this country has ever faced" meme? Well, yeah. That's not even hyperbole. They're just that farking awful.

I just don't want to live under a theocratic government. Obama isn't a theocrat and the GOP is...so the choice is pretty simple.

I used to get annoyed by all the "American Taliban" remarks. But the past few years in particular have made me realize that's what the GOP strives to be. And they're wrapping it in flags and calling it "Liberty."

Granted, not all Republicans think this way. But there's enough of them to genuinely unnerve me. And you gotta wonder about how many Jesus-freaks would ride on Romney's coattails should he win.


As some Farker said before (can't remember who) the GOP seems to consist mainly of Randroids and Rapture Bunnies.
 
2012-10-30 07:14:40 PM  

dickfreckle: Weaver95: dickfreckle:
You know the "GOP is the worst enemy this country has ever faced" meme? Well, yeah. That's not even hyperbole. They're just that farking awful.

I just don't want to live under a theocratic government. Obama isn't a theocrat and the GOP is...so the choice is pretty simple.

I used to get annoyed by all the "American Taliban" remarks. But the past few years in particular have made me realize that's what the GOP strives to be. And they're wrapping it in flags and calling it "Liberty."

Granted, not all Republicans think this way. But there's enough of them to genuinely unnerve me. And you gotta wonder about how many Jesus-freaks would ride on Romney's coattails should he win.


Perhaps one day actual conservatives can reclaim their party. I hope so, for all our sakes.
 
2012-10-30 07:16:35 PM  
Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?
 
2012-10-30 07:17:45 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: I think Obama needs to capitalize off Rmoney wanting to get rid of FEMA more than he already does.


i say let his surrogate handle it. its beneath the president himself. beneath bill clinton though? dunno about that
 
2012-10-30 07:18:00 PM  

ck819: Why are most farkers liberals?


Because you have to read to understand most of the non-pornography content on the internet.
 
2012-10-30 07:18:12 PM  

www.apfn.org

"My instructions to the federal agencies has been, 'Do not figure out why we can't do something. I want you to figure out how we do something. I want you to cut through red tape. I want you to cut through bureaucracy. There's no excuse for inaction at this point. I want every agency to lean forward and to make sure that we are getting the resources where they're needed as quickly as possible. I want to repeat, my message to the federal government: no bureaucracy; no red tape. Get resources where they're needed as fast as possible, as hard as possible, and for the duration."

 
2012-10-30 07:19:13 PM  
Mitt's going to be in a tough spot later this week... he'll be forced either to congratulate Obama for doing a good job, or to criticize him and risk looking unpresidential for playing politics during a national disaster.

I wonder how his campaign will handle this down the stretch...
 
2012-10-30 07:20:51 PM  

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


You should have been here 8 years ago.
 
2012-10-30 07:23:15 PM  

Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink


Dude - the problem is still the same - by any reasonable measure, Romney looks ten times worse. "Obama Sucks" won't cut it, even to the extent that you can prove your case - you have to offer somebody better, or at least as good - and that ain't Romney.
I'm not going to fire my mechanic for working too slow and then hand the keys to the guys who wrecked the car in the first place.
 
2012-10-30 07:23:58 PM  
extras.mnginteractive.com
 
2012-10-30 07:24:17 PM  

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


I can only assume it's because to defend the GOP these days you have to spew nonsense since that is what the GOP is peddling. So those who do are overwhelmed by liberal Farkers who see through the bullshiat that Fox News et al is feeding them and eventually give up or turn to trolling. Those Farkers who are conservative but not party loyalists to their death are few and seem to have little cause for defending the absolute fascist Bronze Age feces being touted by their more die hard colleagues.
 
2012-10-30 07:24:46 PM  

DeltaPunch: Mitt's going to be in a tough spot later this week... he'll be forced either to congratulate Obama for doing a good job, or to criticize him and risk looking unpresidential for playing politics during a national disaster.

I wonder how his campaign will handle this down the stretch...




You are misunderestimating the man. He can do both, certainly in the same paragraph and probably in the same sentence.
 
2012-10-30 07:24:52 PM  

sprawl15: ck819: Why are most farkers liberals?

Because you have to read to understand most of the non-pornography content on the internet.


Yeah, so why are most Farkers liberals?
 
2012-10-30 07:25:06 PM  
"They'll be fine. We tithe!"

downloads.thedaily.com
 
2012-10-30 07:25:14 PM  
sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net
Appropriate.
 
2012-10-30 07:26:25 PM  

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


Premise of question rejected. I don't think most Farkers are liberals. The fact that Reagan Republicans are now referred to as "liberals" by the extreme right doesn't make them that.
 
2012-10-30 07:26:27 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.


so blame the victim? that's your solution?
 
2012-10-30 07:26:30 PM  
Why are liberal and conservative tags that are thrown around like coupons at a consumer convention?
 
Have a conver-fexing-sation for once in your life.
 
2012-10-30 07:27:15 PM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: BMulligan: Weaver95: Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink

I honestly can't tell if this is serious or not....

Of course it's serious. A strokeheart attack potato is always serious.

FTFY


Cheers.

/It actually is more of a french fry, I think, average at best
 
2012-10-30 07:27:46 PM  

ivan: Yeah, so why are most Farkers liberals?


Well, if the right could make an argument other than "OBAMA BAD", I guess it would even out.
 
2012-10-30 07:28:30 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.


should the taxpayer pay for Christie's cardiologist?
 
2012-10-30 07:29:29 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.


Should you be allowed to accumulate property you lack the means to protect, and then expect the state to arrest and jail anyone who takes it from you at MY expense? Take care of your own property, you socialist leech. You should have planned better.
 
2012-10-30 07:29:34 PM  

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


Most farkers aren't. at best they're moderates (and more than a little insane). you assume an inherent bias with your question though. I don't think you realized it, so I'll let it slide.

that said, the GOP types define anyone who isn't a Jesus loving authoritarian as a dirty librul hippy. if you aren't with them, you're against 'em. Democrats and 'liberals' tho, they tend to see things in various shades of grey.
 
2012-10-30 07:30:59 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?

Because most conservatives can't tolerate so much stupidity. I've donated my time to help out the retarded and other special needs types in the past so I've developed a strong tolerance and sort of an amusement to the liberal psychopathy. This is true, not being sarcastic. I can understand most conservatives' repulsion to it, though. You will lose a few IQ points debating these folks, but I had plenty to spare.


case in point - if you aren't with him, you're against him. no grey areas, no compromise - completely black and white thinking.
 
2012-10-30 07:31:16 PM  
So what is the excuse for the last 10 years since Romney was governor?
 
2012-10-30 07:35:04 PM  

jso2897: Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.

Should you be allowed to accumulate property you lack the means to protect, and then expect the state to arrest and jail anyone who takes it from you at MY expense? Take care of your own property, you socialist leech. You should have planned better.


Then your answer to my question is "yes"?
 
2012-10-30 07:35:23 PM  

coeyagi:
Hey Chimp...

National Education Rankings for 2008-

Blue States Average: 20.5
Red States Average: 32.4

who's_the_retard_now.jpg


Those polls must be skewed.
 
2012-10-30 07:37:46 PM  

Weaver95: Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.

so blame the victim? that's your solution?


Yeah, that's pretty much just the tip of the iceberg of stupid you're replying to, there...

When you think Massachusetts, you certainly don't think of towns older than the actual United States that have survived far worst natural disasters than some flooding... Hell, new towns are popping up all the time here. It like a game of Rise of Nations here in the Commonwealth. If those folks aren't going to be careful where the build their town, it's their own fault is something happens to 'em. Just last year, a whole town was destroyed by a band of Mongols. Why should my tax dollars go to helping them rebuild so close to the Mongol Empire?!?
 
2012-10-30 07:38:45 PM  
Republicans really have no sense of history that they didn't invent out of whole cloth. The reason these megalithic federal agencies exist is because we already tried the other options, and they didn't help. Before FEMA existed, there were hundreds of federal agencies doing disaster relief with no central organization or interconnectedness. Hell, it was Herbert "Hooverville" Hoover who started up the first centralized agency for helping rebuild communities after disaster. And it was a mess of squabbling and piecemeal legislation for decades until the seventies rolled all of these agencies into FEMA so that they could move quicker, cheaper, and do more than they would as a hundred infighting agencies.

Conservatives should crack open a book that isn't from the Texas school board once in a while. Why do we need all these regulations that are strangling our job creators? Well, job creators liked to lock the doors to their garment factories and hundreds of women were burned alive. They also liked that children had small hands and could more easily polish the inside of a mortar round. Why does the FDA get to tell me what to put in my body? Well because people liked to dissolve their snake oil in methanol and sell uranium-laced blankets to people with arthritis.

Anything conservatives vehemently want to dismantle only exists today because we already have seen the consequences of haphazard and local regulation. These programs didn't just appear overnight. They were the result of seeing thousands or hundreds of thousands of deaths, disfigurements, and hardship, and the programs grew organically in order to prevent them from happening again. These agencies exist for a reason.
 
2012-10-30 07:38:49 PM  

Weaver95: Noam Chimpsky: ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?

Because most conservatives can't tolerate so much stupidity. I've donated my time to help out the retarded and other special needs types in the past so I've developed a strong tolerance and sort of an amusement to the liberal psychopathy. This is true, not being sarcastic. I can understand most conservatives' repulsion to it, though. You will lose a few IQ points debating these folks, but I had plenty to spare.

case in point - if you aren't with him, you're against him. no grey areas, no compromise - completely black and white thinking.


It saves on cognitive resources. You can be surprised how resource-intensive bluster and delusions can be.
 
2012-10-30 07:39:31 PM  

coeyagi: Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.

I am sure all the GOP voters affected by the flooding and benefitted from government assistance agree with you.

//sadly, they really do.
///tards



cache.gawker.com
"It's not welfare when we use it!
 
2012-10-30 07:40:49 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Republicans really have no sense of history that they didn't invent out of whole cloth. The reason these megalithic federal agencies exist is because we already tried the other options, and they didn't help. Before FEMA existed, there were hundreds of federal agencies doing disaster relief with no central organization or interconnectedness. Hell, it was Herbert "Hooverville" Hoover who started up the first centralized agency for helping rebuild communities after disaster. And it was a mess of squabbling and piecemeal legislation for decades until the seventies rolled all of these agencies into FEMA so that they could move quicker, cheaper, and do more than they would as a hundred infighting agencies.

Conservatives should crack open a book that isn't from the Texas school board once in a while. Why do we need all these regulations that are strangling our job creators? Well, job creators liked to lock the doors to their garment factories and hundreds of women were burned alive. They also liked that children had small hands and could more easily polish the inside of a mortar round. Why does the FDA get to tell me what to put in my body? Well because people liked to dissolve their snake oil in methanol and sell uranium-laced blankets to people with arthritis.

Anything conservatives vehemently want to dismantle only exists today because we already have seen the consequences of haphazard and local regulation. These programs didn't just appear overnight. They were the result of seeing thousands or hundreds of thousands of deaths, disfigurements, and hardship, and the programs grew organically in order to prevent them from happening again. These agencies exist for a reason.


THIS. Thank you.
 
2012-10-30 07:41:18 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: jso2897: Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.

Should you be allowed to accumulate property you lack the means to protect, and then expect the state to arrest and jail anyone who takes it from you at MY expense? Take care of your own property, you socialist leech. You should have planned better.

Then your answer to my question is "yes"?



I suppose your motivation for asking the question is to somehow show that the government should not help out those who have made bad decisions. Of course it does. In fact, it should also make the best effort to educate you so that you don't make bad decisions.

The government does have an obligation to protect your life. It even has an obligation to protect your property as best it can, though it does NOT have an obligation to issue you a new building permit if your place is totalled.

The rich, complain as they might about taxes, benefit disproportionally from them. Their taxes go to the dept of commerce, which goes to bat for the on the world stage. It gets them yummy government contracts.
And yes, it protects them with far more fervor than it protects those born on the wrong side of the tracks.
 
2012-10-30 07:41:47 PM  
Now we can't say "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job" without being called a racist. :(
 
2012-10-30 07:43:12 PM  

mrshowrules: Weaver95: Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink

I honestly can't tell if this is serious or not....

Not sure either but "B. Hussein" part would push me into the troll direction.


Nah.... The armed psycho and katrina part point to satire.
 
2012-10-30 07:46:08 PM  

GoldSpider: Now we can't say "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job" without being called a racist. :(


www.butterflies.org

This image is practically the KKK. =O
 
2012-10-30 07:46:25 PM  
 
2012-10-30 07:46:59 PM  
Romney is a whole lot of fail. On top of being sociopathic liar, he's conniving, looting, amoral, two-faced, and just a plain ol' dickhead.
 
2012-10-30 07:48:15 PM  

mrshowrules: Nadie_AZ: This warmed the cockles of the talkers' hearts at Fox News, of course, where no one doubted that Romney was not, repeat NOT campaigning. He was just helping box up some canned goods to help in the relief effort, and, heavens, if some photographers or some voters happened to be nearby, that was swell too.

Doesn't sound beyond the scope of logic. BUT

But had anyone at the Romney campaign bothered to ask the Red Cross, they would have been informed that collecting canned is exactly what they don't need.

From their site:

The American Red Cross does not accept or solicit small quantities of individual donations of items for emergency relief purposes. Items such as collections of food, used clothing, and shoes often must be cleaned, sorted, and repackaged which impedes the valuable resources of money, time, and personnel that are needed for other aspects of our relief operation.

Link

There are dipshiats where I work which are collecting grocery store bags which they weave into this shiatty mats which they apparently are donating to Haiti because there is apparently a shortage of shiatty mats there and they lack the labour force to weave plastic bags into mats.

I'm not joking. They have collection bins on every floor and several employees are doing the weaving and I assume someone is paying the post to get them to Haiti. Well paid employees also.

I shake my head. If employees instead donated their time spent doing this in salary dollars they could probably pay to build a decent sized health clinic or school house in Haiti. What do we give them instead, shiatty plastic mats.

From their perspective it is like a billionaire knitting you a sweater. Nice sweater and the thought was nice but if you could instead had given us a fraction of the money you made in the time it took you to make that sweater we could could reduced infant mortality by 10% or have functional water treatment plan


Wha...... What ..... How are mats helping them???

Please ask one of the weavers.
 
2012-10-30 07:48:51 PM  
Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"
 
2012-10-30 07:49:18 PM  
U mad bro? Get used to Romerica. Only a few more days!!!
 
2012-10-30 07:53:19 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: And of course Romney was asked 14 times about FEMA and refused to answer any of them.


Is he trying to break Obama's record on Libya?
 
2012-10-30 07:53:26 PM  

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"


I would say most Farkers are intelligent people and basically decent people, both of which preclude supporting Romney or any Republican, whether you're pro-Obama or not.
 
2012-10-30 07:54:32 PM  

ItchyMcDoogle: Hunter_Worthington: DERP!

Nice try at a dodge though


ha-ha, you got me, I merely pointed out that Obama once opposed policies that he later advocated, or legislation that he needed, and implied that's some how the same as Romney doing the exact same thing under similar circumstances. You're totally right to denounce that as "derp". You should take your sharp political wit to the network television instead of wasting it here on Fark. Go, now, for the good of the body politic!
 
2012-10-30 07:54:52 PM  

MyRandomName: cameroncrazy1984: And of course Romney was asked 14 times about FEMA and refused to answer any of them.

Is he trying to break Obama's record on Libya?


What, you mean the embassy security that the GOP voted to defund? Is that what you are talking about? And when did Obama not answer a direct question about it?
 
2012-10-30 07:56:09 PM  

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"


Why shouldn't more people in general be more pro-rational, pro-smart, pro-decency?

Because that just happens to be what Obama is. It's not partisan, at some point, you have to pick the side that does things the way they should be done.
 
2012-10-30 07:57:59 PM  

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"


Or you could try "why do most farkers accept evolution?" Or "why do most farkers have compassion for rape victims?"
 
2012-10-30 07:59:24 PM  

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"


Have you seen / heard the alternative?
 
2012-10-30 08:00:28 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: ItchyMcDoogle: Hunter_Worthington: DERP!

Nice try at a dodge though

ha-ha, you got me, I merely pointed out that Obama once opposed policies that he later advocated, or legislation that he needed, and implied that's some how the same as Romney doing the exact same thing under similar circumstances. You're totally right to denounce that as "derp". You should take your sharp political wit to the network television instead of wasting it here on Fark. Go, now, for the good of the body politic!



Yes, but there is one fine difference. Romney won't talk about it, and Obama said flat out that he had made a mistake and it was wrong to vote against the increasing it. He said that a while back. Can you find any other things that he's changed position on?

Romney has a huge history of advocating both sides of an issue. That doesn't count as changing position if you won't talk about it :

* abortion
* gay rights
* FEMA
* health care
* use of emergency rooms
* governments ability to create jobs.

Those are just off the top of my head. A little research is going to uncover more of those Romnesia episodes.
 
2012-10-30 08:02:02 PM  

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"


Probably because most Farkers are not religious, have enough education to be somewhat tech-savvy, and are relatively young.

You're not going to find a lot of 65 year-old fundamentalist baptists on this board.
 
2012-10-30 08:04:13 PM  

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"


Personally (while still registered R out of lethargy): After I was laid off in '09 due to the economy, the flipping house goes tea party and starts playing politics with unemployment benefits. Coupled with their Christian Fundie pet projects (also now an atheist thanks to fark), blatant obstructionism to make Obama a one termer economy be damned, and now with the quantum candidate and his almost pathologic penchant for lies... the pacific ocean will have to freeze over before I vote for any R for any post other than county clerk or sheriff.
 
2012-10-30 08:06:12 PM  

Weaver95: Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.

so blame the victim? that's your solution?


That seems to be the GOP solution for everything: rape, illness, natural disasters, etc.
 
2012-10-30 08:06:45 PM  

dartben: You're not going to find a lot of 65 year-old fundamentalist baptists on this board.


This site isn't High-res enough for them to read easily.
 
2012-10-30 08:07:09 PM  
jso2897:I'm not going to fire my mechanic for working too slow and then hand the keys to the guys who wrecked the car in the first place.

31 flavors of awesome.
 
2012-10-30 08:08:37 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Yeah, but those Salt Lake City Olympics...he did a good job, there.


He only askef for $1,300,000,000.00 from the federal government to hold the olympics, too.

(That's three times more than we spend on PBS and NPR combined. Apparently, borrowing money from China is OK when Mitt does it.)
 
2012-10-30 08:08:40 PM  

Elzar: derp....derp... spectacularly.....hurrr....durrr....


i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-30 08:12:25 PM  

ck819: Why are most farkers liberals?


I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm a liberal because I'm not a farktard.
 
2012-10-30 08:16:15 PM  

ivan: Yeah, so why are most Farkers liberals?


Farkers are pretty evenly spread across the political spectrum. Since the Democratic party covers most of said political spectrum, most of us will be in favor of something that falls somewhere in the blue region most of the time.

We're only all "liberals" if you're using that as shorthand for "anything other than straight-ticket GOP", which is both not what the word actually means and an exceptionally stupid way to use it.

For example, I'm a policy conservative, i.e. I generally do not advocate changing any policy unless there is a bloody _mountain_ of evidence that the new version is not only better, but better enough to make up for the costs associated with changing policy. I tend to resist social policy changes at the national level until they've been tested at the state level, and I resist changes at the state level until they've been tried at the local level, and react to any politician pushing a dramatic social agenda as if it were urgent with extreme suspicion. I care a lot about the cost of things, and where politics is concerned saying that something, even something obviously vital, is "worth any price" is probably the fastest way to lose me.

Ten years ago, this would have (and did) probably make me a GOP voter for the most part. Nowadays, it makes me a straight-ticket Democrat almost. Literally every actual conservative candidate in US politics has a (D) by their name now. The GOP consists entirely of radical religious reactionaries, which isn't even within artillery distance of conservatism.
 
2012-10-30 08:20:00 PM  
Why would he do this don't states have unlimited funds just like the feds?
 
2012-10-30 08:21:22 PM  

Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink


WTF is " armed psycho reform legislation"? I have never heard of such a thing. Google reveals nothing.
 
2012-10-30 08:23:36 PM  

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


So being a rational, common sense thinking person is a liberal? So call me liberal.
 
2012-10-30 08:30:26 PM  

Hobodeluxe: Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.

should the taxpayer pay for Christie's cardiologist?


Yes. A civilized country provides healthcare for all.
 
2012-10-30 08:30:56 PM  

Ilmarinen: ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"

Or you could try "why do most farkers accept evolution?" Or "why do most farkers have compassion for rape victims?"


She was totally asking for it and it wasn't legitimate rape as she was an easy rape. I just hope she got God's little gift of a rape baby. :)
 
2012-10-30 08:31:50 PM  
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Look at the buttons.
 
2012-10-30 08:32:16 PM  
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Just lookit those crowds! 

MITTMENTUMMENTAL!!!
 
2012-10-30 08:32:58 PM  

coyo: Interesting ad : [pagead2.googlesyndication.com image 300x250]
Look at the buttons.


Let's hope a lot of people are red-green colorblind.
 
2012-10-30 08:33:59 PM  
This is a lame, one-sided attempt by Obamafanatics to exploit a natural disaster.

If we continue as we have been, we wont have to worry about Federal disaster relief because there wont be any federal money for it.
 
2012-10-30 08:34:09 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"

I would say most Farkers are intelligent people and basically decent people, both of which preclude supporting Romney or any Republican, whether you're pro-Obama or not.


I would say, in a flip of how a lot of people outside Fark vote, many Farkers are less pro-Obama than they are anti-Republican--which, by definition in this election makes them anti-Romney. A lot of our more erudite and intelligent conservative Farkers only recently became (very reluctantly) what one might call "liberal" or at least they renounced the Republican party in its current incarnation; they have no choice but to support Obama because they refuse to support the gang of brain-dead ogres and Inquistional thugs calling themselves the GOP nowadays.

Many others are supporting Obama now because they were RON PAUL supporters in early 2012, but that's off the table now and they've seen enough of Romney to know he's only like Paul every third or fourth day; so, again, it's Obama or nothing. Of course, some of us with a better understanding of how politics work think Obama has done an okay job as President given what he was up against in Congress and we're 110% Obama in this election. But you can't take being "against Romney" as being "for Obama" all the time anymore, not the way the GOP has been behaving of late.
 
2012-10-30 08:36:11 PM  

Animatronik: This is a lame, one-sided attempt by Obamafanatics to exploit a natural disaster.

If we continue as we have been, we wont have to worry about Federal disaster relief because there wont be any federal money for it.


What you meant to say but your shill-vision blinded you in doing so: "Romney wants to do away with FEMA and give it over to states and how dare someone take a critical look at what he did as governor of MA."
 
2012-10-30 08:37:46 PM  

Animatronik: This is a lame, one-sided attempt by Obamafanatics to exploit a natural disaster.

If we continue as we have been, we wont have to worry about Federal disaster relief because there wont be any federal money for it.


cdn2-b.examiner.com
 
2012-10-30 08:38:21 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Just lookit those crowds!


It isn't like Romney is very popular here in Michigan... I'm sure tens of people couldn't wait to have Mitt lie to them personally.
 
2012-10-30 08:38:37 PM  
Jesus you people actually farking think he is posting in earnest? Maybe he is right, you ARE retarded
 
2012-10-30 08:39:23 PM  
Maybe, JUST MAYBE, the people who submitted it did NOT give the proper info... they may have ommitted key details that they did not know they needed to include. FTFA it says he vetoed it due to not enough details. Maybe the plan was not properly submitted. No one is discussing that; as usual everyone is running with is "ooh he vetoed a flood prevention plan...blah blah... he is so despicable.. blah blah... typical conservative...". Oh and then the town flooded. TWICE. Well, how long would it have taken to enact the flood prevention plan? Would it have been completed in time to prevent said flooding? And if the submitters of the plan really DID fail to give the required details then how the hell is that Romney's fault. Not saying it isn't or is but come on people, look at BOTH sides of it instead of jumping on the bashing bandwagon.
 
2012-10-30 08:39:27 PM  

Mugato: Why won't he make with his tax returns? He's a shady motherfarker, who hasn't got that already?


Way too many people.

Although maybe some of them want the shadier guy to win. Maybe the guy who can lie his way into office, can lie his way out of WWIII. He seems tough sometimes. Obama seems weak sometimes too. Didn't he kill somebody? Maybe this time we'll be like his investors and the rest of the world will be the ones getting outsourced this time.

I dunno, he's a bullshiatter. I don't know how people don't see it. All the primary candidates saw it. Nobody likes him, but watch him walk into the Whitehouse on a road of money, lies and fear of communism.
 
2012-10-30 08:39:28 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: Noam Chimpsky: I sense a contradiction of libtardian talking points. Libs used to make the argument that kids from typical Democrat ( minority and single mother ) families were disadvantaged and needed more resources to compete with kids from typical Republican ( white mom and dad ) families. Now you're saying those kids from Democrat families are way more educated than the kids from Republican families. I guess we can quit agitating for more school dollars for typical Democrat areas, now?

I'm curious. Where did you hear that more single moms were Democrats? Do you have numbers to back this up?


My mom was a die-hard Libertarian. At least until she figured out Rand was a raving lunatic.
 
2012-10-30 08:39:34 PM  

Animatronik: This is a lame, one-sided attempt by Obamafanatics to exploit a natural disaster.

If we continue as we have been, we wont have to worry about Federal disaster relief because there wont be any federal money for it.



You would have more of a point if Romney proposed doing anything different. He has not laid out a single policy difference, well other than ending FEMA, Planned Parenthood, PBS and Roe V Wade.
 
2012-10-30 08:40:32 PM  

Jackson Herring: Jesus you people actually farking think he is posting in earnest? Maybe he is right, you ARE retarded


www.netlore.ru
 
2012-10-30 08:40:36 PM  

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


My guess is that there are a lot easier targets for conservatives to take over, so they just gravitate towards those.
 
2012-10-30 08:40:47 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Weaver95: MaudlinMutantMollusk: He did send a busload of bootstraps, so there's that

so how did it feel to spend a moment inside my head?

Is that what it was?

/I thought I'd finally gotten one of those LSD flashbacks I was promised
//lyin' bestids


Nope, that was an LDS flashback.
 
2012-10-30 08:40:52 PM  

Weaver95: Noam Chimpsky: ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?

Because most conservatives can't tolerate so much stupidity. I've donated my time to help out the retarded and other special needs types in the past so I've developed a strong tolerance and sort of an amusement to the liberal psychopathy. This is true, not being sarcastic. I can understand most conservatives' repulsion to it, though. You will lose a few IQ points debating these folks, but I had plenty to spare.

case in point - if you aren't with him, you're against him. no grey areas, no compromise - completely black and white thinking.


That seems to be the principal difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives see everything in black-and-white, binary way. That view is great for decision making, since most decisions are rather definite: either go or not go, buy or not buy, etc. However it's very ineffective in modeling reality. Reality is a continuum, a spectrum of infinite possibilities. Liberals see reality as it is: infinite possibilities. They see the fine gradients in 1080p HD and not 8-bit greyscale. That's reality. But, the weakness is evaluating and making decisions. Liberals do tend to take a lot more time to contemplate and assess before making a decision. It's almost ent-ish in considering the possibilities and outcomes.

What would be a great leader is someone who views the world with a liberal's eye and someone who can execute and make decisions with a conservative's spine.

Unfortunately, the current crop of GOPs have the conservative's black-and-white view of the world and the liberal's decision-making skills. In regards to decision-making, their method is a rather simple one: whatever Obama would do, do the opposite. The current crop of GOPs' only skill is snickering: finding fault in the most meaningless action of Obama. They're really good at that. If Obama walks with his left foot first, they'll complain that he's a lefty communist. If Obama walks with his right foot first, they'll complain that he views the right as below him. To the GOP, no action or inaction by Obama is ever correct or wise.
 
2012-10-30 08:41:06 PM  

coyo: Animatronik: This is a lame, one-sided attempt by Obamafanatics to exploit a natural disaster.

If we continue as we have been, we wont have to worry about Federal disaster relief because there wont be any federal money for it.


You would have more of a point if Romney proposed doing anything different. He has not laid out a single policy difference, well other than ending FEMA, Planned Parenthood, PBS and Roe V Wade.


Or you could be a Poe and I have been tricked.
 
2012-10-30 08:41:36 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.


Apparently all of Essex, Middlesex and Suffolk Counties.

/*rolls eyes*
 
2012-10-30 08:42:39 PM  

JohnnyC: TV's Vinnie: Just lookit those crowds!

It isn't like Romney is very popular here in Michigan... I'm sure tens of people couldn't wait to have Mitt lie to them personally.


But... but... I was told that MI is still up for grabs: "Michigan: 51-48 Romney -- the surprise of the night, Romney's home state ties are more key than Obama's claims to have "saved" the domestic auto industry"

/planning on laughing SO hard at unskewed on Nov. 7th
 
2012-10-30 08:42:41 PM  

Animatronik: This is a lame, one-sided attempt by Obamafanatics to exploit a natural disaster.


You're a joke... a bad joke.

So how does it feel to be a bad joke? I've always tried to avoid being seen as a joke, especially a bad one, but you seem determined to be the worst joke you can be. I really don't understand the logic behind your choice to be a bad joke.
 
2012-10-30 08:43:56 PM  
I'm a 65 year-old fundamentalist baptist and I'm voting for Obama.
 
2012-10-30 08:44:35 PM  

MyRandomName: So what is the excuse for the last 10 years since Romney was governor?


Who cares. This is about Romney's record. Nice try at the deflection though.
 
2012-10-30 08:46:04 PM  

shanrick: I'm a 65 year-old fundamentalist baptist and I'm voting for Obama.


Probably because you think that Mormons and Satanists are one and the same.
 
2012-10-30 08:46:12 PM  

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"


The alternative to Obama is a greedy, lying asshole with mild autism. The Republican party is dominated by anti-intellectual lunatics waiting for the rapture and amoral Ayn Rand disciples, and Romney is a spineless wimp afraid to stand up to any of them.

I'm not pro-obama; I'm anti-romney.

But for the record, I am a proud liberal.
 
2012-10-30 08:47:33 PM  
Now that I'm nicely baked. As an older Farker, I say to you, Who really seriously gives a rats ass about any of it?
Seriously, you're here because you're bored.
Everything follows after that.

I'm just here because I'm stoned and obnoxious.
And now I'm not.

Laters Drew pay checks.
 
2012-10-30 08:47:35 PM  
I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama

Hahahhhhhhahaahahahah
 
2012-10-30 08:47:35 PM  
Obviously he was too busy getting contracts in China to make his campaign hats
i1128.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-30 08:50:21 PM  

mrshowrules: Nadie_AZ: This warmed the cockles of the talkers' hearts at Fox News, of course, where no one doubted that Romney was not, repeat NOT campaigning. He was just helping box up some canned goods to help in the relief effort, and, heavens, if some photographers or some voters happened to be nearby, that was swell too.

Doesn't sound beyond the scope of logic. BUT

But had anyone at the Romney campaign bothered to ask the Red Cross, they would have been informed that collecting canned is exactly what they don't need.

From their site:

The American Red Cross does not accept or solicit small quantities of individual donations of items for emergency relief purposes. Items such as collections of food, used clothing, and shoes often must be cleaned, sorted, and repackaged which impedes the valuable resources of money, time, and personnel that are needed for other aspects of our relief operation.

Link

There are dipshiats where I work which are collecting grocery store bags which they weave into this shiatty mats which they apparently are donating to Haiti because there is apparently a shortage of shiatty mats there and they lack the labour force to weave plastic bags into mats.

I'm not joking. They have collection bins on every floor and several employees are doing the weaving and I assume someone is paying the post to get them to Haiti. Well paid employees also.

I shake my head. If employees instead donated their time spent doing this in salary dollars they could probably pay to build a decent sized health clinic or school house in Haiti. What do we give them instead, shiatty plastic mats.

From their perspective it is like a billionaire knitting you a sweater. Nice sweater and the thought was nice but if you could instead had given us a fraction of the money you made in the time it took you to make that sweater we could could reduced infant mortality by 10% or have functional water treatment plan


Your co-workers are weaving because they are operating under the assumption that Haitians can't be trusted with money. Sending money is a crap shoot, you don't know where it will end up and what happens if the money is used in ways you, the giver, don't approve? or if it's put in the hands of people which you, the giver, don't approve?

So, you give canned goods which will sit in storage; or make baked goods with your church social which will never see the intended recipient; or you do as your co-workers did, weaving mats out of paper bags... but what you never do is allow others to make their own decisions about what to do with your hard earned money.

That's all.
 
2012-10-30 08:50:53 PM  

Jackson Herring: I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama

Hahahhhhhhahaahahahah


Apparently he's using Netscape communicator and it doesn't allow for [derp] a href="AmericanThinker.org">img src="AmericanRetard.org" [/derp]
 
2012-10-30 08:51:14 PM  

coyo: Animatronik: This is a lame, one-sided attempt by Obamafanatics to exploit a natural disaster.

If we continue as we have been, we wont have to worry about Federal disaster relief because there wont be any federal money for it.


You would have more of a point if Romney proposed doing anything different. He has not laid out a single policy difference, well other than ending FEMA, Planned Parenthood, PBS and Roe V Wade.


LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget.

4 years ago Obama said he would cut the deficit but he increased it and his proposed budgets would have increased it even more, but they were so bad that his own party voted them down.

O f course, in the current unreality, Democrats have decided that, since GW GW GW, deficits dont matter, its a goddam spending spree. Well its 4 years later, time to get rid of the BO, try something new.
 
2012-10-30 08:51:51 PM  

Lando Lincoln: shanrick: I'm a 65 year-old fundamentalist baptist and I'm voting for Obama.

Probably because you think that Mormons and Papists and Satanists are one and the same.


Don't forget that devil inspired Catholic on the ticket!
 
2012-10-30 08:52:04 PM  

Im_Gumby: But... but... I was told that MI is still up for grabs: "Michigan: 51-48 Romney -- the surprise of the night, Romney's home state ties are more key than Obama's claims to have "saved" the domestic auto industry"


Haha... well... whatever they're saying... I doubt Romney is going to win Michigan. Generally the conservatives will slather their vehicles with bumper stickers and their yards with signs... So far I've seen exactly one Romney bumper sticker and two Romney yard signs... however... both those Romney yard signs were in the same yard (on opposite ends of the property).

Granted, I suppose it is POSSIBLE that Romney will take Michigan... but I'd count that as highly unlikely. 538 still has Michigan at 98.1% chance for an Obama win here... They were pretty right on the money the last election. I think it's safe to assume they're not too far off the mark this one.

Im_Gumby: planning on laughing SO hard at unskewed on Nov. 7th


Not I... Yes, I will be glad when Obama wins (I'm confident he will), but I don't want to rub their noses in their loss too much. They're going to be hard enough to deal with over the next four years without us starting off Obama's second term by shoving their failure to produce a worthy candidate in their faces.
 
2012-10-30 08:52:14 PM  

coyo: Animatronik: This is a lame, one-sided attempt by Obamafanatics to exploit a natural disaster.

If we continue as we have been, we wont have to worry about Federal disaster relief because there wont be any federal money for it.


You would have more of a point if Romney proposed doing anything different. He has not laid out a single policy difference, well other than ending FEMA, Planned Parenthood, PBS and Roe V Wade.


You forgot lowering (rich peoples') taxes and increasing the defense budget. That's SURE to help the debt!
 
2012-10-30 08:52:14 PM  
Actually it is indeed possible that slightly more than half are anti Romney, it's just that the anti Obama headlines are so bad that they seem like several crammed into one.
 
2012-10-30 08:52:24 PM  

Animatronik:
LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget..


yes, apparently by giving the rich more tax cuts. i'm still not sure how that's supposed to work....
 
2012-10-30 08:53:42 PM  

BronyMedic: This is a poe, right?


Yes... this morning I saw one of his posts was a weird Cool Hand Luke riff.

I think he's trying to bite Mike_LowELL's style.
 
2012-10-30 08:53:57 PM  

Weaver95: Animatronik:
LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget..

yes, apparently by giving the rich more tax cuts. i'm still not sure how that's supposed to work....


Step 1: Cut taxes
Step 2: Increase defense spending
Step 3: America collapses
Step 4: Neo-CSA disavows all debts owed by the former USA

Balanced federal budget!
 
2012-10-30 08:54:20 PM  

Weaver95: Animatronik:
LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget..

yes, apparently by giving the rich more tax cuts. i'm still not sure how that's supposed to work....


And refusing to cut (and, in fact, increasing) the defense budget. And invading Iran.
 
2012-10-30 08:54:32 PM  

Krymson Tyde: I heard Mrs. Romney say before a debate Mitt always writes "Dad" on a piece of paper to remind himself to not do anything that would embarrass his father.

Yeah, about that...


In a bored moment this weekend, I was rereading "The Great Shark Hunt". Lucky for me I don't use drugs, because while reading through the section on the 1968 Presidential election, I got to HST's take on someone called "George Romney" who was running against Nixon. Thompson seemed to like this "George Romney," but he lost badly in the early primaries. And then it dawned on me...it was THAT "George Romney."

Imagine how history would have been different if he'd won, instead of NIxon!
 
2012-10-30 08:54:40 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: /I thought I'd finally gotten one of those LSD flashbacks I was promised


This one is an LDS flashback.
 
2012-10-30 08:54:48 PM  

theknuckler_33: Lando Lincoln: shanrick: I'm a 65 year-old fundamentalist baptist and I'm voting for Obama.

Probably because you think that Mormons and Papists and Satanists are one and the same.

Don't forget that devil inspired Catholic on the ticket!


Zero sum.

//Give JOE the Bird
 
2012-10-30 08:55:21 PM  

Animatronik: LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget.


By increasing defense spending, campaigning on "OBAMMER IS CUTTING YOUR MEDICARE" and mentioning little to nothing of SS. All while cutting taxes...

MAGIC
 
2012-10-30 08:56:05 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: Weaver95: Animatronik:
LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget..

yes, apparently by giving the rich more tax cuts. i'm still not sure how that's supposed to work....

Step 1: Cut taxes
Step 2: Increase defense spending
Step 3: America collapses
Step 4: Neo-CSA disavows all debts owed by the former USA

Balanced federal budget!


sometimes I really do think that the GOP wants to split up the USA into smaller countries.
 
2012-10-30 08:56:16 PM  

MrSplifferton: Obviously he was too busy getting contracts in China to make his campaign hats


Well it's typical Romney behavior... Get donations from Americans... Use that money to buy hats made in China on the cheap, then sell the hats back to the same people who paid for them in the first place at a markup.

Either way... every Romney supporter who donated to Romney was sending a portion of their money directly to China... bet they're pretty happy about that...

At least the Obama campaign (both the last one and this one) hired American companies to make the products they sold... keeping the donation money here at home.
 
2012-10-30 08:56:41 PM  

Animatronik: LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget.


Without touching Medicare or the Defense budget.

That's like a fat man saying that he's going to lose weight without going on a diet.
 
2012-10-30 08:58:58 PM  

Weaver95: A Dark Evil Omen: Weaver95: Animatronik:
LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget..

yes, apparently by giving the rich more tax cuts. i'm still not sure how that's supposed to work....

Step 1: Cut taxes
Step 2: Increase defense spending
Step 3: America collapses
Step 4: Neo-CSA disavows all debts owed by the former USA

Balanced federal budget!

sometimes I really do think that the GOP wants to split up the USA into smaller countries.


Nah. The blue-collar base is all het up with secessionist and nativist rhetoric and warmed-over Confederate nonsense, but the GOP proper just sees it as a payday. They don't care. The wealthy and powerful will be fine no matter what happens. Oh no, the USA collapsed into a nuclear capable version of the Balkan states. Time to move to Bali and live like a sultan with all of the billions of dollars I sucked out of those suckers!
 
2012-10-30 08:59:45 PM  

Huggermugger: Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink

WTF is " armed psycho reform legislation"? I have never heard of such a thing. Google reveals nothing.


I believe that is the elegantly stated Poe's Law version of "gun control". Basically, he's playing a conservative lambasting Obama for not passing "gun control" - but calling it something different to hide the ball from people trying to gauge his trolling. Gun control = bad, psycho control = good, gun control = psycho control *headsplosion* Another good technique used is his first paragraph dig at Guantanimo - policy wise its as far off topic as is possible. Overall, I would rate this troll as 9.7-9.8, but the Russian judge may have a different opinion.
 
2012-10-30 09:00:14 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Animatronik: LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget.

Without touching Medicare or the Defense budget.

That's like a fat man saying that he's going to lose weight without going on a diet.


Increasing defense spending, remember. It's more like a fat man saying that he's going to lose weight by going on a diet consisting of nothing but Twinkies, Coke and cheap rum.
 
2012-10-30 09:00:20 PM  

Animatronik: This is a lame, one-sided attempt by Obamafanatics to exploit a natural disaster.

If we continue as we have been, we wont have to worry about Federal disaster relief because there wont be any federal money for it.


www.huffingtonpost.com

Iraq War costs and tax cut income dearth and Presidential Seal guitar says what, now?
 
2012-10-30 09:01:07 PM  

Weaver95: I honestly can't tell if this is serious or not....


That one was easier than most for me to pick out as satire.
 
2012-10-30 09:02:56 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: Mrtraveler01: Animatronik: LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget.

Without touching Medicare or the Defense budget.

That's like a fat man saying that he's going to lose weight without going on a diet.

Increasing defense spending, remember. It's more like a fat man saying that he's going to lose weight by going on a diet consisting of nothing but Twinkies, Coke and cheap rum.


But it's OK, because he'll buy them at the gas station THREE blocks away instead of three and a half.
 
2012-10-30 09:03:33 PM  

JohnnyC: Im_Gumby: But... but... I was told that MI is still up for grabs: "Michigan: 51-48 Romney -- the surprise of the night, Romney's home state ties are more key than Obama's claims to have "saved" the domestic auto industry"

Haha... well... whatever they're saying... I doubt Romney is going to win Michigan. Generally the conservatives will slather their vehicles with bumper stickers and their yards with signs... So far I've seen exactly one Romney bumper sticker and two Romney yard signs... however... both those Romney yard signs were in the same yard (on opposite ends of the property).

Granted, I suppose it is POSSIBLE that Romney will take Michigan... but I'd count that as highly unlikely. 538 still has Michigan at 98.1% chance for an Obama win here... They were pretty right on the money the last election. I think it's safe to assume they're not too far off the mark this one.

Im_Gumby: planning on laughing SO hard at unskewed on Nov. 7th

Not I... Yes, I will be glad when Obama wins (I'm confident he will), but I don't want to rub their noses in their loss too much. They're going to be hard enough to deal with over the next four years without us starting off Obama's second term by shoving their failure to produce a worthy candidate in their faces.


While a good part of me will so want to rub their noses in Mitt's loss, I'm more polite than that. Still my point was about unskewed and the ONLY way he's not going to be drawn and quartered is if his rose colored predictions come true. If that happens, there will be a lot of drinking involved.
 
2012-10-30 09:03:40 PM  
The man is a cold hearted bastard, Or, in other words, he is a Republitard.
 
2012-10-30 09:07:16 PM  

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


They're not... the majority are moderates.

Farkers like humor... They like to make jokes and have fun... modern conservatives aren't generally very funny and their jokes are always at someone else's expense. So... they just don't usually fit in here very well. Additionally, not many of the conservative talking points are based in reality or facts... Farkers tend to pick things apart and try to find the facts behind things. That also doesn't fit well with modern conservatives. They can't just spew bullshiat here without being called out for the bullshiat.

And that's really what it comes down to, I think.
 
2012-10-30 09:08:23 PM  

JohnnyC: Im_Gumby: But... but... I was told that MI is still up for grabs: "Michigan: 51-48 Romney -- the surprise of the night, Romney's home state ties are more key than Obama's claims to have "saved" the domestic auto industry"

Haha... well... whatever they're saying... I doubt Romney is going to win Michigan. Generally the conservatives will slather their vehicles with bumper stickers and their yards with signs... So far I've seen exactly one Romney bumper sticker and two Romney yard signs... however... both those Romney yard signs were in the same yard (on opposite ends of the property).

Granted, I suppose it is POSSIBLE that Romney will take Michigan... but I'd count that as highly unlikely. 538 still has Michigan at 98.1% chance for an Obama win here... They were pretty right on the money the last election. I think it's safe to assume they're not too far off the mark this one.

Im_Gumby: planning on laughing SO hard at unskewed on Nov. 7th

Not I... Yes, I will be glad when Obama wins (I'm confident he will), but I don't want to rub their noses in their loss too much. They're going to be hard enough to deal with over the next four years without us starting off Obama's second term by shoving their failure to produce a worthy candidate in their faces.


In our states last election when Walker won again, I saw a lot more Walker signs then I have Romney signs this cycle. Lately a Wisconsin election cycle is 6 months or less. I don't know if Obama will win as big as he did in 2008 if at all. Some of my co-workers are hardcore republicans and two weeks ago I got sick of the political talk at work. Someone stated that I would vote Obama and I responded:

"No, I don't vote for major parties anymore. R's and D's aren't any different and we haven't had a good president since Clinton. When he was in office we had a budget surplus and then Bush came in and pissed it away, then borrowed money to pay for two wars one of which we didn't need to get into. I can't complain about Obama's spending because we needed the stimulus and frankly you wouldn't have been hired without that spending and I might have been out the door myself."

People stopped the political talk after that, or at least around me they did.

/CSB
 
2012-10-30 09:10:19 PM  

netizencain: If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?



"Lady, if you didn't want it, why didn't you stop me? So what... I had a knife at your throat. Big deal. If you REALLY cared... and you REALLY didn't want it, you would have fought me off... knife or no knife. Don't try to pretend after the fact that this is all my fault somehow. Either you wanted it or you're so weak and timid and powerless that you should've never even left your house. Don't act like I'm some horrible boogeyman. Take some responsibility for yourself. You disgust me."
 
2012-10-30 09:18:51 PM  
The possibility of President Romney actually scares me. I was not a Bush supporter in 00 or 04 but the possibility of Dubya being elected did not bother me nearly as much as Romney.
 
2012-10-30 09:20:55 PM  

Weaver95: Animatronik:
LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget..

yes, apparently by giving the rich more tax cuts. i'm still not sure how that's supposed to work....


In the spirit of bipartisan compromise, he's going to allow congress to choose the tax deductions to eliminate and the spending to cut.

That way, Romney gets credit for the tax cuts, and Congress gets blamed for the deficit.
 
2012-10-30 09:25:47 PM  

James F. Campbell: ck819: Why are most farkers liberals?

I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm a liberal because I'm not a farktard.


www.politicsplus.org
 
2012-10-30 09:26:45 PM  
Not surprised in the least that Mitts failed at being a Governor as more and more evidence comes out to prove it, scares me to death people want him to be president.
 
2012-10-30 09:29:51 PM  

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


Because there is no difference between what actual republicans say and what people who troll the internet say. None.

Many are not liberals but they are sick of the derp
 
2012-10-30 09:32:32 PM  

MrSplifferton: Obviously he was too busy getting contracts in China to make his campaign hats
[i1128.photobucket.com image 480x284]


Ha! I hadn't seen that.

Jeez, you'd think rule #1 for people running a Presidential campaign would be to make sure your campaign gear is made in the USA.
 
2012-10-30 09:33:16 PM  

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"


He's the best Republican president in my lifetime.
 
2012-10-30 09:33:30 PM  

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


People with empathy tend to hang out together
 
2012-10-30 09:37:52 PM  

Animatronik: coyo: Animatronik: This is a lame, one-sided attempt by Obamafanatics to exploit a natural disaster.

If we continue as we have been, we wont have to worry about Federal disaster relief because there wont be any federal money for it.


You would have more of a point if Romney proposed doing anything different. He has not laid out a single policy difference, well other than ending FEMA, Planned Parenthood, PBS and Roe V Wade.

LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget.

4 years ago Obama said he would cut the deficit but he increased it and his proposed budgets would have increased it even more, but they were so bad that his own party voted them down.

O f course, in the current unreality, Democrats have decided that, since GW GW GW, deficits dont matter, its a goddam spending spree. Well its 4 years later, time to get rid of the BO, try something new.


Actually, Obama HAS cut the deficit. The most recent budget is less red than the 2010 (Obama's first) budget. The 2013 will be less red than the 2012 as well. Yes, they're still red, but that's because Obama was honest enough to put the cost of the two wars that GWBush ran into the expense side of the budget. Bush didn't include them in his budget.
 
2012-10-30 09:45:07 PM  

davidphogan: ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"

He's the best Republican president in my lifetime.


Certainly within my lifetime.
 
2012-10-30 09:46:37 PM  

GoldSpider: Michael 'Doing A Heck Of A Job Brownie' Brown Berates Obama For 'Jumping On' Sandy Too Quickly


My G-d, that poor man is actually clinically insane and people are making fun of him or worse going along with him instead of getting him some desperately needed help. I can't help feeling sorry for him.
 
2012-10-30 09:49:29 PM  

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?



Fark used to be more evenly divided. There actually used to be some very good debates on this site. But, as the right-wing got nuttier and nuttier, people who are earnest and intellectually honest have a tough time arguing for right-wing ideas and policies.

Even the Limbaugh crowd which actually believes all the bullshiat is less than thrilled with the prospect of voicing them outside of the echo chamber, Either they don't want to cop to them, (in the way that a racist doesn't want to tell a black joke in mixed company because he doesn't want everyone thinking he's a huge asshole) or they don't want to be made foolish trying to argue for them when their arguments generally break down into ad hominems and/or special pleading.

That just leaves the trolls. The people who mainly just want attention or want to derail actual conversation because they know it won't go well for "their side."

And it's not just fark... even the conservatives on my facebook page won't speak up much anymore... and I live in farking Alabama. I know they're there. But they don't seem eager to make themselves known the way they once did.
 
2012-10-30 09:50:51 PM  

Freudian_slipknot: netizencain: Budget line item vetos. A bill probably has hundreds of things that he can line out. Again, I'd like a percentage to make a better judgement. Otherwise it's just a SQUIRREL

I think that, regardless of the number of vetos, with an override number like that (many unanimous, apparently) combined with a 34% approval rating at the end of his term, you can feel free to wonder what the f*ck he was doing as governor.

That said, "The fruitless vetoes include some that Romney makes a point of boasting about. On June 15, Romney gave a speech at the National Right to Life Convention Forum where he spoke at length about his vetoes of "pro-choice legislation." He vetoed a bill allowing pharmacists to dispense the morning-after pill without a prescription and another streamlining the process for scientists conducting embryonic stem-cell research. Both vetoes, however, were overturned.

Romney also vetoed a minimum wage increase, and a bill that legalized over-the-counter sales of hypodermic needles. The Legislature overrode both vetoes.

It's worth noting the General Court, Massachusetts' legislative body, was overwhelmingly Democratic while Romney was governor. Even now, the House consists of 141 Democrats and only 19 Republicans, while the Senate has 34 Democrats, five Republicans and one vacant seat. But in some cases even the Republicans went against Romney. His minimum wage veto was overridden unanimously, for example. In that instance the House voted against him 152 to 0, and minutes later the Senate voted 38 to 0."


eraser8: Lando Lincoln: Yeah, but those Salt Lake City Olympics...he did a good job, there.

Of course. After the federal government paid billions into it, how could it fail?


Sonnuva, that was on my birthday. Why must he ruin my day so farking much?
 
2012-10-30 09:53:05 PM  

theknuckler_33: Lando Lincoln: shanrick: I'm a 65 year-old fundamentalist baptist and I'm voting for Obama.

Probably because you think that Mormons and Papists and Satanists are one and the same.

Don't forget that devil inspired Catholic on the ticket!


Which one?

I find it interesting that there are no WASPs on either ticket this election.
 
2012-10-30 09:55:20 PM  

fusillade762: theknuckler_33: Lando Lincoln: shanrick: I'm a 65 year-old fundamentalist baptist and I'm voting for Obama.

Probably because you think that Mormons and Papists and Satanists are one and the same.

Don't forget that devil inspired Catholic on the ticket!

Which one?

I find it interesting that there are no WASPs on either ticket this election.


Yeah, true. This must be why there is so much rancor from the evangelical derposphere. Regardless of who wins, they lose.
 
2012-10-30 10:01:11 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.


So, in other words...

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-30 10:02:41 PM  

technicolor-misfit: ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


Fark used to be more evenly divided. There actually used to be some very good debates on this site. But, as the right-wing got nuttier and nuttier, people who are earnest and intellectually honest have a tough time arguing for right-wing ideas and policies.

Even the Limbaugh crowd which actually believes all the bullshiat is less than thrilled with the prospect of voicing them outside of the echo chamber, Either they don't want to cop to them, (in the way that a racist doesn't want to tell a black joke in mixed company because he doesn't want everyone thinking he's a huge asshole) or they don't want to be made foolish trying to argue for them when their arguments generally break down into ad hominems and/or special pleading.

That just leaves the trolls. The people who mainly just want attention or want to derail actual conversation because they know it won't go well for "their side."

And it's not just fark... even the conservatives on my facebook page won't speak up much anymore... and I live in farking Alabama. I know they're there. But they don't seem eager to make themselves known the way they once did.


I don't know. I'm leftish and generally enjoy reading fark comments. I think a more conservative version of me may not enjoy reading it so much. Not necessarily by the correctness/logic of it, but just sheer numbers. Any earnest Limbaugh conservative may or may not be ashamed of his views, but will quickly get overwhelmed by posting here. I have made an alt and posted right wing screeds a time or two before(I know I know I'm sorry, it sounded fun at the time) and it was farking impossible to keep up with all the arguments/general hatred lobbed back at me. It was WORK. I then understood exactly why randomjsa takes one dump in a thread then runs away.

I remember from 2001-2004 that it was even here, but the soul of the place was won by the left by (imo) the failure of the Bush presidency(maybe Terry Shiavo too). Once a critical ratio was reached, it became impossible for the right to keep up. Now only pot shot artists live here. Viewed properly, I find them the most entertaining people here.
 
2012-10-30 10:02:47 PM  

The Larch: Weaver95: Animatronik:
LOL Romney has said he would do what it takes to balance the Federal budget..

yes, apparently by giving the rich more tax cuts. i'm still not sure how that's supposed to work....

In the spirit of bipartisan compromise, he's going to allow congress to choose the tax deductions to eliminate and the spending to cut.

That way, Romney gets credit for the tax cuts, and Congress gets blamed for the deficit.


Of course, this is until the next Democrat takes office. Then, the deficit and any other problems are retroactively their fault on day one. That's how the Party of Personal Responsibility operates.
 
2012-10-30 10:03:48 PM  

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?



Wait, this is Fark, right?


Since no one else will be straight with you, I tell you why. The reason is that your mother's a whore.
 
2012-10-30 10:15:02 PM  

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"


Because you touch yourself at night.

Seriously, you've been registered on this site since 2006; you should have learned to troll better than that by now.
 
2012-10-30 10:16:31 PM  

arobb00: Maybe, JUST MAYBE, the people who submitted it did NOT give the proper info... they may have ommitted key details that they did not know they needed to include. FTFA it says he vetoed it due to not enough details. Maybe the plan was not properly submitted. No one is discussing that; as usual everyone is running with is "ooh he vetoed a flood prevention plan...blah blah... he is so despicable.. blah blah... typical conservative...". Oh and then the town flooded. TWICE. Well, how long would it have taken to enact the flood prevention plan? Would it have been completed in time to prevent said flooding? And if the submitters of the plan really DID fail to give the required details then how the hell is that Romney's fault. Not saying it isn't or is but come on people, look at BOTH sides of it instead of jumping on the bashing bandwagon.


I can understand bureaucracy farking things up. Maybe there was some legitimate SNAFU in there, I don't know. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that part.

BUT

When Greenfield flooded in 2005 he was out of state and unreachable for several days. Was he not keeping abreast of disasters in the state he governs? Could he not take a moment to call them up and offer help from the state? One would assume that his Chief of Staff would call him and say "Hey, these people need some help".
 
2012-10-30 10:18:06 PM  

Jgok: arobb00: Maybe, JUST MAYBE, the people who submitted it did NOT give the proper info... they may have ommitted key details that they did not know they needed to include. FTFA it says he vetoed it due to not enough details. Maybe the plan was not properly submitted. No one is discussing that; as usual everyone is running with is "ooh he vetoed a flood prevention plan...blah blah... he is so despicable.. blah blah... typical conservative...". Oh and then the town flooded. TWICE. Well, how long would it have taken to enact the flood prevention plan? Would it have been completed in time to prevent said flooding? And if the submitters of the plan really DID fail to give the required details then how the hell is that Romney's fault. Not saying it isn't or is but come on people, look at BOTH sides of it instead of jumping on the bashing bandwagon.

I can understand bureaucracy farking things up. Maybe there was some legitimate SNAFU in there, I don't know. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that part.

BUT

When Greenfield flooded in 2005 he was out of state and unreachable for several days. Was he not keeping abreast of disasters in the state he governs? Could he not take a moment to call them up and offer help from the state? One would assume that his Chief of Staff would call him and say "Hey, these people need some help".


"I can't be seen helping people! I'm running for office for Pete's sake!"
 
2012-10-30 10:22:56 PM  

Dr. Farkenstein: ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"

Because you touch yourself at night.

Seriously, you've been registered on this site since 2006; you should have learned to troll better than that by now.


Troll or not, I do think Fark is more pro-Obama lately. I've been around since about 2001 and this site used to be filled with pro-Bush people.

I think the nature of it goes along with what's popular. Republicans are all laughing stocks, just like Democrats were ten years ago ( Howard Dean and John Kerry and John Edwards and who was that that soldiers mother who protested everywhere...)
 
2012-10-30 10:25:52 PM  

Freudian_slipknot: Romney also vetoed a minimum wage increase, and a bill that legalized over-the-counter sales of hypodermic needles.


Because the only thing hypodermic needles are used for is shooting up smack... God what an idiot.

/18 gage needles give me butthurt.
 
2012-10-30 10:27:21 PM  
Romney did single-handedly save the US auto industry... so at least there's that.
 
2012-10-30 10:28:10 PM  

Stibium: Freudian_slipknot: Romney also vetoed a minimum wage increase, and a bill that legalized over-the-counter sales of hypodermic needles.

Because the only thing hypodermic needles are used for is shooting up smack... God what an idiot.

/18 gage needles give me butthurt.


Wow, what a dick.

/insulin pump decided to die on me after my doctor left for the day
//went to walgreens and bought me some emergency needles
 
2012-10-30 10:31:38 PM  

mrshowrules: There are dipshiats where I work which are collecting grocery store bags which they weave into this shiatty mats which they apparently are donating to Haiti because there is apparently a shortage of shiatty mats there and they lack the labour force to weave plastic bags into mats.


Wow. The fact that they feel that Haitians need welcome mats above food, water, and shelter is just so sad.

CSB: My girlfriend has an old friend who got sent to prison for a while. Last month, and a few times prior, he sent her a woven necklace and cross made of grocery bags. It's actually pretty cool in a "found art" sort of way.
 
2012-10-30 10:40:29 PM  

StopLurkListen: Dr. Farkenstein: ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"

Because you touch yourself at night.

Seriously, you've been registered on this site since 2006; you should have learned to troll better than that by now.

Troll or not, I do think Fark is more pro-Obama lately. I've been around since about 2001 and this site used to be filled with pro-Bush people.

I think the nature of it goes along with what's popular. Republicans are all laughing stocks, just like Democrats were ten years ago ( Howard Dean and John Kerry and John Edwards and who was that that soldiers mother who protested everywhere...)


Leave Howard Dean YYEEEEEAAAAAAAALLLLOOOOOOONNNNNNNEEEE!!!
 
2012-10-30 10:43:38 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: The most senior person in his administration, the city's mayor, could get in touch with was the lieutenant governor's chief of staff

Talk about disasters. Maybe you should give up blogging, and get a new hobby like knitting or something.


came in here to see if anyone else's head did this:
3.bp.blogspot.com
upon reading that sentence.

leaving satisfied

//hot

 
2012-10-30 10:44:06 PM  
Way to break the formatting on the page for mobile readers, herrDrFarkenstein... :/
 
2012-10-30 10:47:09 PM  
I was talking to one of my best friends today - Boston born and bred, now living in Georgia. Her parents retired to the Maggie Valley area of NC. She told me her parents, MA natives, very conservative Irish Italian Catholics, hate Romney with the intensity of a thousand burning suns and are not making too many friends with their southern neighbors by telling them, in their New England accents, about how much of a lying , smarmy sack of shiat he is. I personally would take the word of someone who lived under his governorship into consideration. In fact, I have.
 
2012-10-30 10:53:14 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: As a United States Senator, Barrack Obama voted against raising the debt ceiling. But as President, he needed it raised. So, hypocrite, or pandering politician?

You be the judge.


My judgment is that Fark is overrun by morons. Not you, of course. Expressing such an opinion would get my post deleted. it seems.

But bye. I really don't care whether folks are sincere morons, or only emulating them. I haven't got the patience anymore.
 
2012-10-30 10:54:19 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: Should you be able to build a house or a town anywhere and the governor should be obligated to protect it from flooding? Massachusetts has lots of areas that aren't wise places to put a town or a house. Same can be said for every state.


didnt the government force people to relocate OUT of the mississippi river flood plain in the last couple of decades? I seem to remember reading/hearing about the last couple of families being moved out ...
 
2012-10-30 10:56:47 PM  
Subby, that's called Compassionate Conservatism -- otherwise known as Tough Love.
 
2012-10-30 11:05:51 PM  
You stand with Mitt, you stand on your own
 
2012-10-30 11:19:45 PM  
So, Mitt doesn't know his

i.imgur.com
Your_Midnight_Man:

from

extras.mnginteractive.com
hackhix:
 
2012-10-30 11:23:02 PM  

It's pretty clear to see who is willing to help the American people when they need it.

oi49.tinypic.com

 
2012-10-30 11:33:16 PM  
Here is how a PRESIDENT deals with a disaster.

"My instructions to the federal agency has been, 'Do not figure out why we can't do something. I want you to figure out how we do something. I want you to cut through red tape. I want you to cut through bureaucracy.' There's no excuse for inaction at this point," Obama said during a visit to the headquarters of the American Red Cross. "I want every agency to lean forward and to make sure that we are getting the resources where they need -- where they're needed as quickly as possible."
 
2012-10-30 11:36:31 PM  

StopLurkListen: Dr. Farkenstein: ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias. Maybe my question should have been "why are most farkers pro Obama?"

Because you touch yourself at night.

Seriously, you've been registered on this site since 2006; you should have learned to troll better than that by now.

Troll or not, I do think Fark is more pro-Obama lately. I've been around since about 2001 and this site used to be filled with pro-Bush people.

I think the nature of it goes along with what's popular. Republicans are all laughing stocks, just like Democrats were ten years ago ( Howard Dean and John Kerry and John Edwards and who was that that soldiers mother who protested everywhere...)


To be fair, it has a lot to do with how batshiat crazy the GOP has become. I am no liberal but I sure as hell wont vote for anyone claiming to represent the GoP.
 
2012-10-30 11:38:32 PM  
Glad this point is getting reinforced right now. Not because I like Obama per se, but it is necessary that the world realizes what a dick Romney was to the state and how little he actually did for us.

\not from Peabody or Greenfield, but Peabody especially has a reputation for flooding for EVERYthing.
\\tough wanting a moderate conservative and being stuck with this jackass as a candidate
 
2012-10-30 11:48:22 PM  
October Surprise indeed...and it is emblazoned with Romney's own words.
 
2012-10-30 11:56:43 PM  

FriarReb98: Glad this point is getting reinforced right now. Not because I like Obama per se, but it is necessary that the world realizes what a dick Romney was to the state and how little he actually did for us.

\not from Peabody or Greenfield, but Peabody especially has a reputation for flooding for EVERYthing.
\\tough wanting a moderate conservative and being stuck with this jackass as a candidate


Well, at this point, Romney probably won't make anymore progress until Election Day. If that happens, you might get Christie as a candidate in 2016. He's earning a lot of respect for how he's handliing this.
 
2012-10-31 12:03:26 AM  
It's like Romney lives in his own private alternate universe.
 
2012-10-31 12:04:00 AM  

findthefish: October Surprise indeed...and it is emblazoned with Romney's own words.


This. If Romney wins after blasting FEMA while NEW YORK F*CKING CITY is underwater, this nation is well and truly beyond help.
 
2012-10-31 12:10:01 AM  
www.dirtandseeds.com

And can you believe these 'scientists' want to waste your taxpayer dollars studying volcanos? I mean, what could possibly go wrong?


farm2.static.flickr.com

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-10-31 12:22:26 AM  
To be fair, there are a lot of people who are proud of being assholes who eagerly want a master asshole to represent their point of view.
 
2012-10-31 12:37:01 AM  
Romney would be President Brownie.

I think we can all be happy that Sandy occurred under Obama rather Romney, who wants to end FEMA, and hand the responsibility for handling natural disasters over to the states, who can't afford it.
 
2012-10-31 12:51:02 AM  

Goodfella: [www.dirtandseeds.com image 460x288]

And can you believe these 'scientists' want to waste your taxpayer dollars studying volcanos? I mean, what could possibly go wrong?


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We could become Italy???

MY GOD, IT'S WORSE THAN I THOUGHT!!!
 
2012-10-31 12:54:20 AM  
Newt Gingrich was on Fox news today saying that Mitt Romney is going to carry Ohio, Romney is going to win the election by 8 points, and also his coattails are going to result in a Republican Senate.

i.imgur.com

Won't be long now.
 
2012-10-31 01:06:46 AM  

Krymson Tyde: I heard Mrs. Romney say before a debate Mitt always writes "Dad" on a piece of paper to remind himself to not do anything that would embarrass his father.

Yeah, about that...


Wasn't one of the knocks on George Romney that he was prone to saying things that'd embarrass himself?

/Like father, like son
 
2012-10-31 01:20:52 AM  

eraser8: dickfreckle: Weaver95: Mugato: Why won't he make with his tax returns? He's a shady motherfarker, who hasn't got that already?

Even among GOP voters, the answer I get most from them is that they're not voting FOR Romney, they're voting against Obama. not exactly a ringing endorsement for the Republican party. At this point the only thing holding them together is the fact that they hate Obama.

Conversely, I'm not voting for Obama as much as I'm voting to keep these genuinely evil GOP skid marks from tanking my country. As a president, he's nowhere near liberal enough for me - but he's also not crazy, evil, or particularly motivated by greed. He's a solid man who seems to have the best interests of my country at heart.

You know the "GOP is the worst enemy this country has ever faced" meme? Well, yeah. That's not even hyperbole. They're just that farking awful.

Quite right.

I don't think many Farkers have paid much attention to my political judgments over the years -- but, if they have, they'll know I've never been a huge Barack Obama fan.

But, I've always been against the Republicans holding the country hostage for its temerity of electing a Democrat to the presidency.

That, more than anything, is why I voted for Barack Obama this year: to show Republicans that their ransom will not be paid, that I will not negotiate with terrorists.


I know you are being truthful here- I have paid attention. I respect your decision and understand it.
 
2012-10-31 01:23:55 AM  

Mugato: Why won't he make with his tax returns? He's a shady motherfarker, who hasn't got that already?


I bet they got lost in the wake of Sandy's destruction.
 
2012-10-31 02:00:41 AM  
The most senior person in his administration, the city's mayor, could get in touch with was the lieutenant governor's chief of staff.

That's the worst use of commas I've ever seen in a sentence. Sucks the meaning right out of it.
 
2012-10-31 02:32:04 AM  
Via Infinito:

I really liked McCain and if he had not insulted my entire gender by picking Palin as his VP, I would have seriously considered voting for him.

[Obama is] Not as liberal as I'd like and he's definitely no Bill Clinton.


I'm sorry, but how the hell do you reconcile these two statements? If Obama isn't liberal enough for your taste, what the blistering fark did you like about McCain?
 
2012-10-31 05:37:05 AM  
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"Hunnn-ter, Ah-Worthingtunnn...."

Are you sh*tting us!?
 
2012-10-31 05:45:54 AM  
Oh no, whatever y'all do, DO NOT Google "Hunter Worthington"!!!

[sets self on fire, runs around screaming, then teleports through N-space to wind up yet again in the White House bathroom nearest to the Oval Office. Alarms go off. Hilarity ensues.]
 
2012-10-31 05:55:37 AM  

Crapinoleum: The most senior person in his administration, the city's mayor, could get in touch with was the lieutenant governor's chief of staff.

That's the worst use of commas I've ever seen in a sentence. Sucks the meaning right out of it.


Don't you see! The city's mayor IS Mitt Romney!
 
2012-10-31 06:04:35 AM  
And in another post ck819 said:
"Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know..."

ck819: Thanks for the responses.

I just noticed most of the political headlines were anti Romney, pro Obama and most of the posts the same. No bias...


So you're not here alot but you've noticed 'most of the political headlines were anti Romney'.
What are the chances of that happening to you, maybe you're a wizard?

Are you a wizard?
 
2012-10-31 06:28:05 AM  
Elzar 2012-10-30 03:12:49 PM

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

OK, the link goes to a Google Search for "Waconda oil spill", resulting in local news pieces about a levee malfunction in a town in Illinois in 2011, in which no oil spill whatsoever was involved.

Additionally...you really do not know who was President of the United States in 2005!?
 
2012-10-31 06:33:36 AM  

Elzar: what about Guantanimo?


Look at how stupid you are.
 
2012-10-31 06:47:17 AM  

Vodka Zombie: This is a guy who thinks it'd be great idea to privatize disaster response and relief so assholes can further profit off the misfortune of others.

There isn't a single decent or moral bone in Romney's entire body, it seems. The man's every decision and action is guided solely by greed.


And unfortunately half of all Americans have been programmed to see that as a good thing.
 
2012-10-31 07:26:07 AM  

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


I don't think they are.

Most are going to support Dems, but that doesn't mean they are liberal.

The Republican party has gone pants on the head retarted to the point they are debating if a woman who is raped should have to carry the baby. A lot of then honestly want to get rid of FEMA, or have it privitized.
 
2012-10-31 07:29:19 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Republicans really have no sense of history that they didn't invent out of whole cloth. The reason these megalithic federal agencies exist is because we already tried the other options, and they didn't help. Before FEMA existed, there were hundreds of federal agencies doing disaster relief with no central organization or interconnectedness. Hell, it was Herbert "Hooverville" Hoover who started up the first centralized agency for helping rebuild communities after disaster. And it was a mess of squabbling and piecemeal legislation for decades until the seventies rolled all of these agencies into FEMA so that they could move quicker, cheaper, and do more than they would as a hundred infighting agencies.

Conservatives should crack open a book that isn't from the Texas school board once in a while. Why do we need all these regulations that are strangling our job creators? Well, job creators liked to lock the doors to their garment factories and hundreds of women were burned alive. They also liked that children had small hands and could more easily polish the inside of a mortar round. Why does the FDA get to tell me what to put in my body? Well because people liked to dissolve their snake oil in methanol and sell uranium-laced blankets to people with arthritis.

Anything conservatives vehemently want to dismantle only exists today because we already have seen the consequences of haphazard and local regulation. These programs didn't just appear overnight. They were the result of seeing thousands or hundreds of thousands of deaths, disfigurements, and hardship, and the programs grew organically in order to prevent them from happening again. These agencies exist for a reason.


I actually wrote something about this a couple weeks ago.

http://occupiedmariner.blogspot.com/2012/10/self-regulation-in-free-ma rket.html?m=1

/and yes, i am aware that my blog sucks.
 
2012-10-31 07:44:17 AM  

ck819: Honest, non trolling question. I'm not on here a lot so I really don't know...

Why are most farkers liberals?


It's not that most farkers are liberals. It's that the Republican party is so derp-tastic right now that pretty much every non-liberal that tries to interject typical GOP talking points gets handily shut down. The only people left are the trolls that still post 5 month-ago-debunked gibberish and don't stick around long enough to see it responded too. Occasionally you'll see someone stick around and try and defend said talking points, but it never lasts long, because it's hard to be wrong all the time.
 
2012-10-31 08:21:00 AM  
i205.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-31 08:42:23 AM  
Daily Kos always shows only one side of the story since it's basically an echo chamber for liberals, who are afflicted with a mental disorder called liberalism that is spread through self-pity.

In many cases, local towns refuse to take reasonable precautions against flood or other disasters, and then keep bumping the cost upstairs to the rest of the state. A smart manager will stop this by refusing them aid, and then letting the disaster play out so that the local voters replace their incompetent local leaders and stop bilking the rest of the state's citizens for their own incompetence.

That's a few logical steps too far for the Daily Kos cheerleading crowd, but no one intelligent reads Daily Kos anyway. They make Fox News look like saints.
 
2012-10-31 08:44:58 AM  

sodomizer: Daily Kos always shows only one side of the story since it's basically an echo chamber for liberals, who are afflicted with a mental disorder called liberalism that is spread through self-pity.


'New troll here.' favorited!.
 
2012-10-31 08:47:24 AM  

Animatronik: time to get rid of the BO


I've always found a shower helps with that. You should try it.
 
2012-10-31 08:56:34 AM  

sodomizer: Daily Kos always shows only one side of the story since it's basically an echo chamber for liberals, who are afflicted with a mental disorder called liberalism that is spread through self-pity.

In many cases, local towns refuse to take reasonable precautions against flood or other disasters, and then keep bumping the cost upstairs to the rest of the state. A smart manager will stop this by refusing them aid, and then letting the disaster play out so that the local voters replace their incompetent local leaders and stop bilking the rest of the state's citizens for their own incompetence.

That's a few logical steps too far for the Daily Kos cheerleading crowd, but no one intelligent reads Daily Kos anyway. They make Fox News look like saints.


By refusing them aid kids could be killed. By defunding state emrgency groups kids could be killed.

A smart manager would stop it by requiring towns to save ro contribute X amount of money to an emergency fund.
 
2012-10-31 09:21:49 AM  

netizencain: Freudian_slipknot: netizencain: If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?

Maybe they were tired. I would be a little worn out after over 700 overrides

Damn. Good info there.

So, not to lessen the fact that he vetoed the flood measures, can you find out if the house overrode him on that one too?


Jesus. This guy says he can work across the aisle in the spirit of national compromise and he's got that sitting on his record as MAGov?

"Here's a bill to sign, Mitt! We all agree it's awesome."
"No. Vetoed"
"Lol! We love it so much we're going to override that veto. But nice try, dick-gargler."
 
2012-10-31 09:57:12 AM  

smartaleq: Huggermugger: Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink

WTF is " armed psycho reform legislation"? I have never heard of such a thing. Google reveals nothing.

I believe that is the elegantly stated Poe's Law version of "gun control". Basically, he's playing a conservative lambasting Obama for not passing "gun control" - but calling it something different to hide the ball from people trying to gauge his trolling. Gun control = bad, psycho control = good, gun control = psycho control *headsplosion* Another good technique used is his first paragraph dig at Guantanimo - policy wise its as far off topic as is possible. Overall, I would rate this troll as 9.7-9.8, but the Russian judge may have a different opinion.


Nyet, is wery good troll.
 
2012-10-31 09:58:45 AM  
Rmoney - the federal govt does not have the money to pay for this type of event (we are just borrowing it from China) so we need to shift the expense to the states. I hope you are listening Texas as you are the largest single recipient.
 
2012-10-31 10:11:22 AM  

sodomizer: Daily Kos always shows only one side of the story since it's basically an echo chamber for liberals, who are afflicted with a mental disorder called liberalism that is spread through self-pity.

In many cases, local towns refuse to take reasonable precautions against flood or other disasters, and then keep bumping the cost upstairs to the rest of the state. A smart manager will stop this by refusing them aid, and then letting the disaster play out so that the local voters replace their incompetent local leaders and stop bilking the rest of the state's citizens for their own incompetence.

That's a few logical steps too far for the Daily Kos cheerleading crowd, but no one intelligent reads Daily Kos anyway. They make Fox News look like saints.


This......is what Republicans actually believe in. Yes, you read that right, folks, let the common people die and lose everything, and hopefully it will teach them a lesson in bootstrappyness. Because if there's anyone that deserves to die and lose everything in this kind of situation, it's the kind of people that pay taxes and live week-to-week, not the douche-bags up top who make the decisions that lead to these problems. Oh wait, that's because it's the Republican's who are generally up top in situations like this. Yeah, nothing else to see here, carry on.

Romney/Ryan/Ayn Rand 2012. Fark you, I got mine, in purest form.
 
2012-10-31 01:09:14 PM  

MyRandomName: So what is the excuse for the last 10 years since Romney was governor?


Nice maths. Governor Romney left office in early 2007. That's a bit over 5 years ago, not 10. Still a right while, I grant you, but doubling the time is a bit more deceptive than a rounding error. By your reckoning, President Bush left office almost two terms ago, and yet here stands President Obama, seeking another term.

arobb00: Maybe, JUST MAYBE, the people who submitted it did NOT give the proper info... they may have ommitted key details that they did not know they needed to include. FTFA it says he vetoed it due to not enough details. Maybe the plan was not properly submitted. No one is discussing that; as usual everyone is running with is "ooh he vetoed a flood prevention plan...blah blah... he is so despicable.. blah blah... typical conservative...". Oh and then the town flooded. TWICE. Well, how long would it have taken to enact the flood prevention plan? Would it have been completed in time to prevent said flooding? And if the submitters of the plan really DID fail to give the required details then how the hell is that Romney's fault. Not saying it isn't or is but come on people, look at BOTH sides of it instead of jumping on the bashing bandwagon.


That's fair enough. Rather, you raise a good moot. Remember, Peabody started being settled in about 1626, and was built up over many years, so it does lack some modern infrastructure. The plan to mitigate the floods, and this project still hasn't been begun, involves widening the culverts under Main Street and making sure they're clean in case of heavy rainfall. Now, given the budget, it will likely involve tearing up Peabody square and redirecting traffic at certain times for up to 4.5 years because of the third and fourth opinions and the need to entertain competing bids before they can start. It's a big project for a small town. So when Governor Romney vetoed the project in 2004, which included $5.7million from Massachusetts and $22million in federal dollars, he condemned the town to an underfunded limbo of plans and proposals that they now can't afford, given the economy and spending limits.

The first major flood in question hit Peabody in the spring of 2004. Governor Romney asked President Bush to declare the county (as well as two others) a federal disaster zone, and requested aid moneys. He didn't want to pony up any Commonwealth dollars to help, but he had no problem with receiving federal aid from the same agencies he's recently been harping on about eliminating.

The second major flood hit Peabody on Mothers' Day weekend 2006.

State legislators and local officials back in 2004 immediately denied that they hadn't given the Governor enough information, citing the reports and budgets they'd filed. At the time (not in retrospect like this article), the Governor claimed that he had tried to phone the involved parties to get clarification and more info, but couldn't reach them, and so had no choice but to veto the project that the state legislature had already approved. Even if this were true, which everyone outside the Romney campaign denies, it's possible that expecting people dealing with three feet of water throughout the centre of town to be sitting by the phones is pure madness. But that was Governor Romney's excuse: he couldn't get them on the phone (note that he didn't even bother to go there in 2004), so he blithely vetoed the flood-prevention project.

Besides that, it illustrates the adversarial stance he took with the legislature: they passed bills and made proposals, and he vetoed them. Then, usually, they overrode his vetoes, often unanimously (meaning even the 15-odd% Republicans thought he was being an asshole). Americans have already experienced a Congress who have said no to everything; do you really need a President who will do the same?

Thoreau wrote that "That government is best which governs not at all; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have," but springing paralytic government on citizens at random doesn't count as preparation. Suddenly saying "no" to everything isn't responsible governance.

sodomizer: In many cases, local towns refuse to take reasonable precautions against flood or other disasters, and then keep bumping the cost upstairs to the rest of the state. A smart manager will stop this by refusing them aid, and then letting the disaster play out so that the local voters replace their incompetent local leaders and stop bilking the rest of the state's citizens for their own incompetence.


Absolutely, in many cases. But let's look at this case: that's exactly what Governor Romney did at a higher level: he refused to take reasonable precautions and asked for federal aid to keep from having to pay for infrastructure improvements. He denied funding at the state (or, rather, Commonwealth) level in hopes that federal funding would help him out. In other words, he passed the buck. That's precisely your complaint, only done on a grander scale. MA voters didn't even have the chance to vote Romney out, he didn't bother to run again because his numbers were so abysmal and his goals had been set on a higher office. How is this... candidate worth a single vote?

As the Governor of Massachusetts, Romney wanted the federal government to pay for local improvements. As prospective President, he wants the several states or private industry to pay for everything. He sells campaign gear made in China, presumably because it was cheaper than having the stuff made in America. He doesn't care about cost, he just doesn't want to take responsibility for it. Or for anything.

I like Republicans. I consider myself conservative in many ways (I favour gay marriage, in fact, because I'm a conservative-- what people do in their own homes and in their churches is none of the government's damn business). I've voted R in past, and my ideology often meshes with theirs. But if Governor Romney is they best their national process can sustain, then to Hell with them this cycle.
 
2012-11-01 12:55:10 AM  

Alphax: 'New troll here.' favorited!.


More B-Team trolls.
 
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