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(Daily Kos)   Why hasn't Romney talked about his record managing emergencies? Because as Governor, he vetoed a flood prevention project for a town that later flooded, then ignored requests for help from a second flooded town   (dailykos.com) divider line 271
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2012-10-30 02:07:45 PM  
Heckuv'a job there, Mittens.
 
2012-10-30 02:09:02 PM  
The Party of Personal Responsibility strikes again.
 
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2012-10-30 02:09:06 PM  
Well, I'm sure the invisible hand of the market took care of things.
 
2012-10-30 02:09:38 PM  
Flood prevention?!? That as unnecessary as health insurance. I'm not sick, why would I need health insurance?
 
2012-10-30 02:11:05 PM  

Lurking Fear: Flood prevention?!? That as unnecessary as health insurance. I'm not sick, why would I need health insurance?


Also, why spend money on something called volcano monitoring!
 
2012-10-30 02:23:26 PM  
This is a guy who thinks it'd be great idea to privatize disaster response and relief so assholes can further profit off the misfortune of others.

There isn't a single decent or moral bone in Romney's entire body, it seems. The man's every decision and action is guided solely by greed.
 
2012-10-30 02:25:38 PM  
And of course Romney was asked 14 times about FEMA and refused to answer any of them.
 
2012-10-30 02:32:27 PM  
If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?
 
2012-10-30 03:01:33 PM  
He did send a busload of bootstraps, so there's that
 
2012-10-30 03:02:02 PM  
the least he could have done was sent them some bootstraps.
 
2012-10-30 03:02:17 PM  
Maybe it was one of the 707 they did!
 
2012-10-30 03:02:28 PM  
Yeah, but those Salt Lake City Olympics...he did a good job, there.
 
2012-10-30 03:02:38 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: He did send a busload of bootstraps, so there's that


so how did it feel to spend a moment inside my head?
 
2012-10-30 03:03:23 PM  

netizencain: If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?


Maybe they were tired. I would be a little worn out after over 700 overrides
 
2012-10-30 03:03:56 PM  

Weaver95: MaudlinMutantMollusk: He did send a busload of bootstraps, so there's that

so how did it feel to spend a moment inside my head?


Is that what it was?

/I thought I'd finally gotten one of those LSD flashbacks I was promised
//lyin' bestids
 
2012-10-30 03:08:38 PM  
I heard Mrs. Romney say before a debate Mitt always writes "Dad" on a piece of paper to remind himself to not do anything that would embarrass his father.

Yeah, about that...
 
2012-10-30 03:11:46 PM  

Lurking Fear: Flood prevention?!? That as unnecessary as health insurance. I'm not sick, why would I need health insurance?


It's just like your car insurance paying for oil changes!
 
2012-10-30 03:11:48 PM  
And I threw my hat into the ring for him during the caucuses.

:-/

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Weaver95: MaudlinMutantMollusk: He did send a busload of bootstraps, so there's that

so how did it feel to spend a moment inside my head?

Is that what it was?


Need a towel? Or a moment by yourself for reflection?

;)
 
2012-10-30 03:12:49 PM  
More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink
 
2012-10-30 03:14:34 PM  

Freudian_slipknot: netizencain: If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?

Maybe they were tired. I would be a little worn out after over 700 overrides


Out of over 800 vetoes. Yipes.

I wonder what his signing-to-veto ratio was. Did he veto most stuff that come across his desk? A third? If it's a big number, you have to kind of wonder what the f*ck he was doing as governor.
 
2012-10-30 03:16:00 PM  

Elzar: Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.


He was just trying to protect people's 2nd Amendment rights, like a good Republican...
 
2012-10-30 03:19:46 PM  

Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink


I honestly can't tell if this is serious or not....
 
2012-10-30 03:22:07 PM  

Freudian_slipknot: netizencain: If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?

Maybe they were tired. I would be a little worn out after over 700 overrides


Damn. Good info there.

So, not to lessen the fact that he vetoed the flood measures, can you find out if the house overrode him on that one too?
 
2012-10-30 03:22:25 PM  
gothamist.com
 
2012-10-30 03:22:28 PM  

xanadian: Freudian_slipknot: netizencain: If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?

Maybe they were tired. I would be a little worn out after over 700 overrides

Out of over 800 vetoes. Yipes.

I wonder what his signing-to-veto ratio was. Did he veto most stuff that come across his desk? A third? If it's a big number, you have to kind of wonder what the f*ck he was doing as governor.


He was saying "its all about me-me-me"

and flying about the nation complaining about MA.
 
2012-10-30 03:23:01 PM  

Weaver95: Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink

I honestly can't tell if this is serious or not....


Not sure either but "B. Hussein" part would push me into the troll direction.
 
2012-10-30 03:29:18 PM  

Weaver95: I honestly can't tell if this is serious or not....


I only just figured it out myself, it's not serious
 
2012-10-30 03:30:57 PM  
The private sector will rebuild everything better than before.
 
2012-10-30 03:32:59 PM  

Weaver95: Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink

I honestly can't tell if this is serious or not....


At which point it's no longer worth worrying.

Your worst case scenario is that you put someone on ignore who thinks that that was clever and funny.
 
2012-10-30 03:33:03 PM  

xanadian: I wonder what his signing-to-veto ratio was. Did he veto most stuff that come across his desk? A third? If it's a big number, you have to kind of wonder what the f*ck he was doing as governor.


I can't seem to find a citation on how many total bills were signed into law, but the Mass legislature is only in formal sessions for a year and a half over every 2 years. Which means ~150 weeks over 4 years, ish? That boils down to about a veto a day for his entire term.

Unless someone with more smarts than me wants to correct what I've been able to glean from the 'tubes.
 
2012-10-30 03:35:40 PM  

Freudian_slipknot: xanadian: I wonder what his signing-to-veto ratio was. Did he veto most stuff that come across his desk? A third? If it's a big number, you have to kind of wonder what the f*ck he was doing as governor.

I can't seem to find a citation on how many total bills were signed into law, but the Mass legislature is only in formal sessions for a year and a half over every 2 years. Which means ~150 weeks over 4 years, ish? That boils down to about a veto a day for his entire term.

Unless someone with more smarts than me wants to correct what I've been able to glean from the 'tubes.


Budget line item vetos. A bill probably has hundreds of things that he can line out. Again, I'd like a percentage to make a better judgement. Otherwise it's just a SQUIRREL
 
2012-10-30 03:45:30 PM  

netizencain: Damn. Good info there.

So, not to lessen the fact that he vetoed the flood measures, can you find out if the house overrode him on that one too?


No, because the Massachusetts house is not in formal sessions in September of even-numbered years. Overrides need to be in formal session, since they are done with a roll call vote.

So sayeth the only local, somewhat contemporary report I could find
 
2012-10-30 03:50:59 PM  

Freudian_slipknot: netizencain: If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?

Maybe they were tired. I would be a little worn out after over 700 overrides


Is that seriously the best spin the Romney people have? It's not Romney's fault that he vetoed a flood control bill, it's the Democrats fault for not overriding it?
 
2012-10-30 03:57:28 PM  
www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com

"Mitt Romney was never governor of Massachusetts!"
 
2012-10-30 03:59:55 PM  

netizencain: Budget line item vetos. A bill probably has hundreds of things that he can line out. Again, I'd like a percentage to make a better judgement. Otherwise it's just a SQUIRREL


I think that, regardless of the number of vetos, with an override number like that (many unanimous, apparently) combined with a 34% approval rating at the end of his term, you can feel free to wonder what the f*ck he was doing as governor.

That said, "The fruitless vetoes include some that Romney makes a point of boasting about. On June 15, Romney gave a speech at the National Right to Life Convention Forum where he spoke at length about his vetoes of "pro-choice legislation." He vetoed a bill allowing pharmacists to dispense the morning-after pill without a prescription and another streamlining the process for scientists conducting embryonic stem-cell research. Both vetoes, however, were overturned.

Romney also vetoed a minimum wage increase, and a bill that legalized over-the-counter sales of hypodermic needles. The Legislature overrode both vetoes.

It's worth noting the General Court, Massachusetts' legislative body, was overwhelmingly Democratic while Romney was governor. Even now, the House consists of 141 Democrats and only 19 Republicans, while the Senate has 34 Democrats, five Republicans and one vacant seat. But in some cases even the Republicans went against Romney. His minimum wage veto was overridden unanimously, for example. In that instance the House voted against him 152 to 0, and minutes later the Senate voted 38 to 0."
 
2012-10-30 04:08:55 PM  
Why won't he make with his tax returns? He's a shady motherfarker, who hasn't got that already?
 
2012-10-30 04:09:47 PM  
This warmed the cockles of the talkers' hearts at Fox News, of course, where no one doubted that Romney was not, repeat NOT campaigning. He was just helping box up some canned goods to help in the relief effort, and, heavens, if some photographers or some voters happened to be nearby, that was swell too.

Doesn't sound beyond the scope of logic. BUT

But had anyone at the Romney campaign bothered to ask the Red Cross, they would have been informed that collecting canned is exactly what they don't need.

From their site:

The American Red Cross does not accept or solicit small quantities of individual donations of items for emergency relief purposes. Items such as collections of food, used clothing, and shoes often must be cleaned, sorted, and repackaged which impedes the valuable resources of money, time, and personnel that are needed for other aspects of our relief operation.

Link
 
2012-10-30 04:10:22 PM  

GAT_00: Is that seriously the best spin the Romney people have? It's not Romney's fault that he vetoed a flood control bill, it's the Democrats fault for not overriding it?


It's a given that Republicans are assholes. If the Democrats don't stop the Republicans from being assholes, then that means that the Democrats are weak and shouldn't be elected anymore. So vote Republican.
 
2012-10-30 04:13:08 PM  

Mugato: Why won't he make with his tax returns? He's a shady motherfarker, who hasn't got that already?


Even among GOP voters, the answer I get most from them is that they're not voting FOR Romney, they're voting against Obama. not exactly a ringing endorsement for the Republican party. At this point the only thing holding them together is the fact that they hate Obama.
 
2012-10-30 04:16:59 PM  

GAT_00: Freudian_slipknot: netizencain: If the flood control measures were so important, why didn't the house override the veto? Can't they do that?

Maybe they were tired. I would be a little worn out after over 700 overrides

Is that seriously the best spin the Romney people have? It's not Romney's fault that he vetoed a flood control bill, it's the Democrats fault for not overriding it?


makes you wonder about just how strong a candidate Romney really is, don't it?
 
2012-10-30 04:18:29 PM  
Everyone knows that the only true solution to all this flooding and wind damage is more tax breaks for the wealthy.
 
2012-10-30 04:22:19 PM  

Nadie_AZ: This warmed the cockles of the talkers' hearts at Fox News, of course, where no one doubted that Romney was not, repeat NOT campaigning. He was just helping box up some canned goods to help in the relief effort, and, heavens, if some photographers or some voters happened to be nearby, that was swell too.

Doesn't sound beyond the scope of logic. BUT

But had anyone at the Romney campaign bothered to ask the Red Cross, they would have been informed that collecting canned is exactly what they don't need.

From their site:

The American Red Cross does not accept or solicit small quantities of individual donations of items for emergency relief purposes. Items such as collections of food, used clothing, and shoes often must be cleaned, sorted, and repackaged which impedes the valuable resources of money, time, and personnel that are needed for other aspects of our relief operation.

Link


There are dipshiats where I work which are collecting grocery store bags which they weave into this shiatty mats which they apparently are donating to Haiti because there is apparently a shortage of shiatty mats there and they lack the labour force to weave plastic bags into mats.

I'm not joking. They have collection bins on every floor and several employees are doing the weaving and I assume someone is paying the post to get them to Haiti. Well paid employees also.

I shake my head. If employees instead donated their time spent doing this in salary dollars they could probably pay to build a decent sized health clinic or school house in Haiti. What do we give them instead, shiatty plastic mats.

From their perspective it is like a billionaire knitting you a sweater. Nice sweater and the thought was nice but if you could instead had given us a fraction of the money you made in the time it took you to make that sweater we could could reduced infant mortality by 10% or have functional water treatment plan
 
2012-10-30 04:41:38 PM  

Weaver95: Mugato: Why won't he make with his tax returns? He's a shady motherfarker, who hasn't got that already?

Even among GOP voters, the answer I get most from them is that they're not voting FOR Romney, they're voting against Obama. not exactly a ringing endorsement for the Republican party. At this point the only thing holding them together is the fact that they hate Obama.


Well that's never going to go away, so I guess they'll always have that going for them
 
2012-10-30 04:58:19 PM  
The most senior person in his administration, the city's mayor, could get in touch with was the lieutenant governor's chief of staff

Talk about disasters. Maybe you should give up blogging, and get a new hobby like knitting or something.
 
2012-10-30 05:16:06 PM  

Elzar: More liberal deflection away from the failed policies of B. Hussein - what about Guantanimo? Did Obama close it? Nope - in fact they probably didn't even prepare for Sandy.

Proof of Obama's failure on emergency management was seen in his administration's handling of all the OWS events which occurred in life-threatening winter conditions - and yet his thugs in blue could be seen beating down innocent Americans who have been steam-rolled by the liberal agenda. Not even a single warm blanket, cup of soup or tent offered by FEMA during the trying times of OWS.

Obama also failed spectacularly to pass armed psycho reform legislation which would have prevented the multiple mass shootings we have seen in the last four years.

He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill - now there is an emergency failure of epic proportion. But no, instead lets talk about a little 3-day Nor'easter and how the Katrina response was one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

/ No think like liberal groupthink


This is a poe, right?

Also:

i3.kym-cdn.com

FEMA DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT.
 
2012-10-30 05:18:19 PM  

Weaver95: Mugato: Why won't he make with his tax returns? He's a shady motherfarker, who hasn't got that already?

Even among GOP voters, the answer I get most from them is that they're not voting FOR Romney, they're voting against Obama. not exactly a ringing endorsement for the Republican party. At this point the only thing holding them together is the fact that they hate Obama.


Conversely, I'm not voting for Obama as much as I'm voting to keep these genuinely evil GOP skid marks from tanking my country. As a president, he's nowhere near liberal enough for me - but he's also not crazy, evil, or particularly motivated by greed. He's a solid man who seems to have the best interests of my country at heart.

You know the "GOP is the worst enemy this country has ever faced" meme? Well, yeah. That's not even hyperbole. They're just that farking awful.
 
2012-10-30 05:19:55 PM  

dickfreckle:
You know the "GOP is the worst enemy this country has ever faced" meme? Well, yeah. That's not even hyperbole. They're just that farking awful.


I just don't want to live under a theocratic government. Obama isn't a theocrat and the GOP is...so the choice is pretty simple.
 
2012-10-30 05:23:44 PM  

Elzar: He also failed to pass legislation preventing the Waconda oil spill


Isn't that where the Black Panther is from?
 
2012-10-30 05:28:14 PM  

Weaver95: dickfreckle:
You know the "GOP is the worst enemy this country has ever faced" meme? Well, yeah. That's not even hyperbole. They're just that farking awful.

I just don't want to live under a theocratic government. Obama isn't a theocrat and the GOP is...so the choice is pretty simple.


I used to get annoyed by all the "American Taliban" remarks. But the past few years in particular have made me realize that's what the GOP strives to be. And they're wrapping it in flags and calling it "Liberty."

Granted, not all Republicans think this way. But there's enough of them to genuinely unnerve me. And you gotta wonder about how many Jesus-freaks would ride on Romney's coattails should he win.
 
2012-10-30 05:43:29 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Yeah, but those Salt Lake City Olympics...he did a good job, there.


Of course. After the federal government paid billions into it, how could it fail?
 
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