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(Philly.com)   Sandy knocks Pennsylvania back to the 1920's as state enacts prohibition   (philly.com ) divider line
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2012-10-30 12:06:53 PM  
Bah.
 
2012-10-30 12:16:40 PM  
The horror.....the horror....
 
2012-10-30 12:17:27 PM  
This headline is moronic and the article is, too

There is no prohibition; PA is shutting down the state owned liquor stores like they have shut down pretty much every other part of government.
 
2012-10-30 12:21:02 PM  
just talk to manny horvitz. he'll set you right up. well, he would have, anyway.
 
2012-10-30 12:23:13 PM  
Wait... PA stopped prohibition at some point? WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME?
 
2012-10-30 12:34:56 PM  
its cool - most of us stocked up for the storm over three days ago. the LCB can suck it - professional drunks are always one step ahead of 'em!
 
2012-10-30 12:37:34 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Wait... PA stopped prohibition at some point? WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME?


Better yet, why hasn't anyone told the state legislature?
 
2012-10-30 12:39:30 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Wait... PA stopped prohibition at some point? WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME?


What I came here to say....
 
2012-10-30 12:39:59 PM  
Gov. Corbett - and other Republicans before him - have sought to bust the state's liquor monopoly, to no avail.

Wait. The DEMOCRATS want to keep the tight liquor laws? I thought it was the GOP who was all about stopping the sin.
 
2012-10-30 12:41:05 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Wait... PA stopped prohibition at some point? WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME?


We were too drunk to say.
 
2012-10-30 12:41:57 PM  
Just up Naamans Road, Total Wine & More is opening at noon. Both Delaware stores are located seconds from the Pennsylvania border.

Total Wine & More just opened up its first store here in Dallas. That place is freakin' AWESOME. Best wine selection for miles and more beers than I can possibly count, plus a awesome selection of tequila.

I salute you, Total Wine & More, for keeping Pennsylvanians inebriated.
 
2012-10-30 12:41:58 PM  
If it's just the state-run stores (never heard of that, BTW), you can still go to ABC or Total Wine, right?
 
2012-10-30 12:42:57 PM  
"The Commonwealth" owns the ABC stores here in Virginia, too. Explain why government is in the retail-sales business?
 
2012-10-30 12:43:32 PM  
Honestly... if someone is a drinker, don't they have a pretty substantial supply of booze? I don't think I know anyone who doesn't have a liquor cabinet, some wine, probably an extra beer fridge, etc.
 
2012-10-30 12:43:38 PM  

tnpir: Just up Naamans Road, Total Wine & More is opening at noon. Both Delaware stores are located seconds from the Pennsylvania border.

Total Wine & More just opened up its first store here in Dallas. That place is freakin' AWESOME. Best wine selection for miles and more beers than I can possibly count, plus a awesome selection of tequila.

I salute you, Total Wine & More, for keeping Pennsylvanians inebriated.


Yes! Total Wine FTMFW!!!
 
2012-10-30 12:43:43 PM  
This will surely stop the looting.
 
2012-10-30 12:44:14 PM  
I was told by Fark that state monopolies were the best idea. I am now thoroughly disillusioned.
 
2012-10-30 12:44:31 PM  
suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com
 
2012-10-30 12:45:15 PM  
Man...and i thought Sunday Sales laws in Georgia were ridiculous.

The state runs the liquor stores? The Georgia Baptist Convention would be out in the streets protesting if that ever happened here. (Along with the Methodists...hand in hand...)
 
2012-10-30 12:45:18 PM  

EZ Writer: "The Commonwealth" owns the ABC stores here in Virginia, too. Explain why government is in the retail-sales business?


What in the hell?? That seems so bizarre to me.
 
2012-10-30 12:45:29 PM  

EZ Writer: "The Commonwealth" owns the ABC stores here in Virginia, too. Explain why government is in the retail-sales business?


I don't know, but moving away from VA to a state not involved in liquor sales is awesome, the liquor stores are like massive warehouses of joy.
 
2012-10-30 12:46:46 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: If it's just the state-run stores (never heard of that, BTW), you can still go to ABC or Total Wine, right?


Only if you live near the border, because they're all on the other side. In PA it's just state stores.

Also we still pay a 17% "Johnstown Flood" tax on booze though I think they've mostly recovered since 1936.
 
2012-10-30 12:46:47 PM  

alywa: Honestly... if someone is a drinker, don't they have a pretty substantial supply of booze? I don't think I know anyone who doesn't have a liquor cabinet, some wine, probably an extra beer fridge, etc.


I live in a place that has 24 hour bars and liquor can be sold almost anywhere. this kind of availability decreases stockpiling.

/ though, when a hurricane is on track for the gulf, I stockpile.
 
2012-10-30 12:48:25 PM  
Good so I can drink to stay warm until PECO turns the power back on.
 
2012-10-30 12:51:48 PM  

xanadian: Gov. Corbett - and other Republicans before him - have sought to bust the state's liquor monopoly, to no avail.

Wait. The DEMOCRATS want to keep the tight liquor laws? I thought it was the GOP who was all about stopping the sin.


it's a money issue. Corbitt wants to break up the state liquor stores and sell them to the companies that helped get him elected. the Democrats think that handing those stores over to big corporations without restriction/limitation is kind of a bad idea and would rather hammer out the details. meanwhile the LCB is off being their usual corrupt asshat selves and telling the fundies that if they get broken up then the ENTIRE state will rapidly devolve into a drunken orgy of sex and rock and roll.
 
2012-10-30 12:51:54 PM  

pute kisses like a man: I live in a place that has 24 hour bars and liquor can be sold almost anywhere. this kind of availability decreases stockpiling.


Where I live (Calif) we have liberal liquor laws.

I still stockpile my wine.

/for aging.
//the '86 cabs are coming along nicely.
///the futures on the 2013 Cabs look good too.
 
2012-10-30 12:53:59 PM  
To be fair, alcohol laws in PA are still stuck in the 40s as it is

kumanoki: Man...and i thought Sunday Sales laws in Georgia were ridiculous.

The state runs the liquor stores? The Georgia Baptist Convention would be out in the streets protesting if that ever happened here. (Along with the Methodists...hand in hand...)


State runs the liquor stores in VA, too, but their laws aren't half as f*cked as PA's. At least grocery stores in VA can still sell wine and beer.

You have two options for buying beer in PA:
Get gouged for twice retail buying a six pack at an establishment that serves food
Buy an entire case at a dedicated distributor
 
2012-10-30 12:54:22 PM  
a couple weeks ago the local Joe Canals near me had Bicardi on sale for 19.09. I bought 4 of them, which turned out great because once the hurricane word spread, they were sold out of tons of stuff.
Friend went to a store that was sold out of every 1.75 bottle of vodka, even the plastic ones. wtf?
 
2012-10-30 12:55:31 PM  

CygnusDarius: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Wait... PA stopped prohibition at some point? WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME?

We were too drunk to say.


There it is ^^^
 
2012-10-30 12:56:23 PM  

farker99: pute kisses like a man: I live in a place that has 24 hour bars and liquor can be sold almost anywhere. this kind of availability decreases stockpiling.

Where I live (Calif) we have liberal liquor laws.


//the '86 cabs are coming along nicely.
///the futures on the 2013 Cabs look good too.


So YOU'RE why I can never find a cab...
 
2012-10-30 12:56:41 PM  

EZ Writer: "The Commonwealth" owns the ABC stores here in Virginia, too. Explain why government is in the retail-sales business?


To keep undesirables and Catholics from buying intoxicating liquors because they may annoy white people if they do.

Desirables were once served light wine at Virginia AA meetings.
 
2012-10-30 12:56:49 PM  
see? This is what socialism looks like. Worse than you thought, eh?
 
2012-10-30 12:59:03 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-30 01:00:26 PM  

Weaver95: meanwhile the LCB is off being their usual corrupt asshat selves and telling the fundies that if they get broken up then the ENTIRE state will rapidly devolve into a drunken orgy of sex and rock and roll.


Huh. And here I didn't think ANYTHING could get me to consider moving to Pennsylvania....
 
2012-10-30 01:01:01 PM  

The Slush: You have two options for buying beer in PA:
Get gouged for twice retail buying a six pack at an establishment that serves food
Buy an entire case at a dedicated distributor


I'm still floored when I go out of state. Beer at a Wal-Mart? WOW! And a liquor store where I can buy a bottle of jack daniels, a case of beer, and a 6 pack? That's three stops in PA.
 
2012-10-30 01:02:39 PM  

EZ Writer: "The Commonwealth" owns the ABC stores here in Virginia, too. Explain why government is in the retail-sales business?


Jeeze, people want the government to be more like a business then they complain when the government runs a business.
 
2012-10-30 01:02:57 PM  
I was born in PA, still have a lot of family there, and I do enjoy visiting when I can.

But, I must say; I have no earthly idea how that state is still actually functioning. I swear Harrisburg is always swimming in debt equal to the combined GDP of several African nations, and it seems like "progress" in any highway construction project constitutes someone moving a construction barrel or cone two feet in any direction over the course of a month.
 
2012-10-30 01:03:24 PM  

skullkrusher: see? This is what socialism looks like. Worse than you thought, eh?


this is a lose/lose situation for consumers in Pa. if the LCB gets broken up, Corbitt will sell them cheap to his asshole buddies, so we won't get any money on the deal. if the LCB stays where it is, we're stuck with a bunch of corrupt assholes who are only interested in protecting their monopoly at the expense of common sense.
 
2012-10-30 01:04:57 PM  

Weaver95: xanadian: Gov. Corbett - and other Republicans before him - have sought to bust the state's liquor monopoly, to no avail.

Wait. The DEMOCRATS want to keep the tight liquor laws? I thought it was the GOP who was all about stopping the sin.

it's a money issue. Corbitt wants to break up the state liquor stores and sell them to the companies that helped get him elected. the Democrats think that handing those stores over to big corporations without restriction/limitation is kind of a bad idea and would rather hammer out the details. meanwhile the LCB is off being their usual corrupt asshat selves and telling the fundies that if they get broken up then the ENTIRE state will rapidly devolve into a drunken orgy of sex and rock and roll.


So, a little bit of both, then.

ugh
 
2012-10-30 01:05:18 PM  

Weaver95: skullkrusher: see? This is what socialism looks like. Worse than you thought, eh?

this is a lose/lose situation for consumers in Pa. if the LCB gets broken up, Corbitt will sell them cheap to his asshole buddies, so we won't get any money on the deal. if the LCB stays where it is, we're stuck with a bunch of corrupt assholes who are only interested in protecting their monopoly at the expense of common sense.


In the first example, however, you'll no longer have this absurd state run liquor retailing system. Take the loss on the sale and join the rest of us states not named Utah
 
2012-10-30 01:05:26 PM  
www.sjmagazine.net
Load up the trucks, boys. Looks like we're back in business.
 
2012-10-30 01:06:16 PM  
WTF. I buy my guns where I buy my beer.
 
2012-10-30 01:08:22 PM  

Weaver95: this is a lose/lose situation for consumers in Pa. if the LCB gets broken up, Corbitt will sell them cheap to his asshole buddies, so we won't get any money on the deal. if the LCB stays where it is, we're stuck with a bunch of corrupt assholes who are only interested in protecting their monopoly at the expense of common sense.


Hell, just be like WA: "privatize" liquor sales but slap an ungodly tax on it Link

/personally, I don't complain too much because I can now walk to the QFC a block from my house in my underwear and still get my booze, and I'm mostly a beer drinker anyway
//the marijuana bill (prop 502) includes, I believe, a 25% sales tax on purchases to me made from state-run weed "stores".
 
2012-10-30 01:09:00 PM  
i1182.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-30 01:10:06 PM  

you have pee hands: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: If it's just the state-run stores (never heard of that, BTW), you can still go to ABC or Total Wine, right?

Only if you live near the border, because they're all on the other side. In PA it's just state stores.

Also we still pay a 17% "Johnstown Flood" tax on booze though I think they've mostly recovered since 1936.


As a person that grew up in Johnstown, they haven't recovered and probably never will. That place is a shiathole where buildings have been unoccupied for 20+years and eventually collaps into the streets.

The 17% "Johnstown Flood Tax" hasn't gone to Johnstown in decades. It goes to the state's general fund, now.
 
2012-10-30 01:12:47 PM  

The Slush: You have two options for buying beer in PA:
Get gouged for twice retail buying a six pack at an establishment that serves food
Buy an entire case at a dedicated distributor


Yup. The PA government would like to remind you: if you choose to drink, drink responsibly lots and lots.
 
2012-10-30 01:15:06 PM  
they shut down the state stores after declaring a general state of emergency and telling everyone that non-essential state services would be temporarily suspended.

Color me shocked...

just go to the local beer distributor or Wegmans and pick up some stuff. Or if you're in that much of a need, learn to snag a few bottles before the next storm hits.

/non-story
 
2012-10-30 01:16:04 PM  

skullkrusher: Weaver95: skullkrusher: see? This is what socialism looks like. Worse than you thought, eh?

this is a lose/lose situation for consumers in Pa. if the LCB gets broken up, Corbitt will sell them cheap to his asshole buddies, so we won't get any money on the deal. if the LCB stays where it is, we're stuck with a bunch of corrupt assholes who are only interested in protecting their monopoly at the expense of common sense.

In the first example, however, you'll no longer have this absurd state run liquor retailing system. Take the loss on the sale and join the rest of us states not named Utah


yeah, but Corbitt would sell those stores for NO profit to the state and he'd f*ck over the state workers who run those places. And 1. we need the cash and 2. we do NOT need to put more people on unemployment!
 
2012-10-30 01:19:43 PM  
If you have to have state run liquor store you should at least have some fun with it like NH does and make it "tax free" so that out-of-staters come in droves for cheap alcohol. Added bonus if NH State Troopers detain Massachusetts undercover cops when they try and stake out various liquor stores for citizens dodging Mass taxes.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125236461011390855.html
 
2012-10-30 01:20:37 PM  

pute kisses like a man: I live in a place that has 24 hour bars and liquor can be sold almost anywhere. this kind of availability decreases stockpiling


It is still inconvenient to go out if you run out of booze at a party / dinner / Tuesday. Just buy some extra and keep it in a cabinet. It doesn't go bad (for the most part).

/like a Mormon
//but stockpiling booze
///not canned beets
////has special underwear
 
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