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(Federal News Radio)   Zombie invasions are totally make-believe. Never gonna happen. No chance. Just ignore the joint U.S. Marine and police force zombie invasion drill   (federalnewsradio.com) divider line 127
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2012-10-30 12:06:15 PM  
Wouldn't it be far more politically correct to make them our enemy for every drill we have?
 
2012-10-30 12:09:10 PM  
"The VIP is wounded and his team must move through the town while dodging bullets and shooting back at the invading zombies."

Unless I'm missing something I've never seen a zombie work a gun.
 
2012-10-30 12:24:48 PM  

Hershey Highway Patrol: "The VIP is wounded and his team must move through the town while dodging bullets and shooting back at the invading zombies."

Unless I'm missing something I've never seen a zombie work a gun.


In the Blu-Ray they're all carrying walkie-talkies.
 
2012-10-30 12:26:55 PM  
From TFA:

At one point, some members of the team are bit by zombies and must be taken to a field medical facility for decontamination and treatment.

"No one knows what the zombies will do in our scenario


If it looks anything like this, then it will be taxpayer money well spent.
 
2012-10-30 12:28:37 PM  

Hershey Highway Patrol: "The VIP is wounded and his team must move through the town while dodging bullets and shooting back at the invading zombies."

Unless I'm missing something I've never seen a zombie work a gun.


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2012-10-30 12:34:09 PM  

Hershey Highway Patrol: "The VIP is wounded and his team must move through the town while dodging bullets and shooting back at the invading zombies."

Unless I'm missing something I've never seen a zombie work a gun.


Zombies don't, but the LAMOEs do, and they can be even worse than the dead.

This is actually a kind of neat exercise. A zombie apocalypse is a good metaphor for everything going all pear shaped at once. If emergency services can prepare for a zombie outbreak, they are successfully prepared for just about anything.

CSB: I live in an earthquake and volcano prone area, but it wasn't until I started thinking "what would I do in a zombie outbreak scenario?" that I really started getting prepared for the actual disasters that might take place. Earthquakes, volcanoes, hurricanes, tornadoes, etc. are all so impersonal that they just don't inspire the kind of desire for emergency preparedness that zombies do. After I read World War Z, I started thinking about preparedness in a lot more detail, and now I have three weeks worth of water and a month worth of emergency rations, tools, first aid gear, and a lot of other equipment that I'll need when the earthquake finally hits. Before that, the basement was full of old furniture and crap that I always told myself I'd "get around to some day." Now it's a fully stocked shelter.
 
2012-10-30 12:37:56 PM  
as far as emergency response goes, a disaster scenario is a disaster scenario. whether it's an earthquake, an outbreak, or zombies, the emergency crews will have many of the same hurdles and issues to deal with in order to deal with the disaster. prep is prep, and so i'd rather have the people involved and entertained by it than just go through the strokes of mundain training
 
2012-10-30 12:38:58 PM  
Do they really need to commit a brigade force to find out where Carl is?
 
2012-10-30 01:24:07 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Do they really need to commit a brigade force to find out where Carl is?


Carl is now a little badass, that brigade is deployed to find a way to make Lori stop whining.
 
2012-10-30 02:06:03 PM  

Ennuipoet: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Do they really need to commit a brigade force to find out where Carl is?

Carl is now a little badass, that brigade is deployed to find a way to make Lori stop whining.


The combined military might of the United States is only capable of so much.
 
2012-10-30 02:13:48 PM  
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2012-10-30 02:15:28 PM  
www.yeastboundanddown.com

Sick and tired of zombies. I hear mummies are the new thing.
 
2012-10-30 02:15:41 PM  
By "zombies" they mean poor people.
 
2012-10-30 02:16:28 PM  

cman: Wouldn't it be far more politically correct to make them our enemy for every drill we have?


Maybe; but, it would also be more expensive to have a specific drill for every possible enemy combatant. It makes more sence to have one drill that covers a little of everything.

/ plus, soldiers wouldn't have time to do anything but drill.
 
2012-10-30 02:16:36 PM  
FTA: "No doubt when a zombie apocalypse occurs, it's going to be a federal incident,

Not if, but when. Stock up and lock and load boys. The gummint is onto something.
 
2012-10-30 02:17:12 PM  
Force them into Metro, then arrest them when they start eating people in the stations.
 
2012-10-30 02:17:35 PM  

FloydA: Hershey Highway Patrol: "The VIP is wounded and his team must move through the town while dodging bullets and shooting back at the invading zombies."

Unless I'm missing something I've never seen a zombie work a gun.

Zombies don't, but the LAMOEs do, and they can be even worse than the dead.

This is actually a kind of neat exercise. A zombie apocalypse is a good metaphor for everything going all pear shaped at once. If emergency services can prepare for a zombie outbreak, they are successfully prepared for just about anything.

CSB: I live in an earthquake and volcano prone area, but it wasn't until I started thinking "what would I do in a zombie outbreak scenario?" that I really started getting prepared for the actual disasters that might take place. Earthquakes, volcanoes, hurricanes, tornadoes, etc. are all so impersonal that they just don't inspire the kind of desire for emergency preparedness that zombies do. After I read World War Z, I started thinking about preparedness in a lot more detail, and now I have three weeks worth of water and a month worth of emergency rations, tools, first aid gear, and a lot of other equipment that I'll need when the earthquake finally hits. Before that, the basement was full of old furniture and crap that I always told myself I'd "get around to some day." Now it's a fully stocked shelter.


Congrats you can now be classified a terrorist...
/was only half kidding
//well stocked as well
 
2012-10-30 02:18:09 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: From TFA:

At one point, some members of the team are bit by zombies and must be taken to a field medical facility for decontamination and treatment.


AKA - The Double Tap
 
2012-10-30 02:18:56 PM  
This is really a brilliant way to market emergency preparedness. Zombies are, currently, less threatening and scary of a topic than terrorism and if we learn anything from video games, let it be that a fictional antagonist doesn't make countries and cultures around the world hate us more for allowing media to be made depicting them as the bad guys.
 
2012-10-30 02:19:09 PM  

angrymacface: By "zombies" they mean poor people.


Lots of poor people have guns.

In fact, Id argue that guns are quite White Trash couture. They might not have shoes, but they'll have at least a 12-gauge under their bed.
 
2012-10-30 02:20:25 PM  
If you say it's a zombie exercise, it's cute. If you say it's an exercise where the opposing force is American citizens, it's not so cute.
 
2012-10-30 02:21:19 PM  

FloydA: Hershey Highway Patrol: "The VIP is wounded and his team must move through the town while dodging bullets and shooting back at the invading zombies."

Unless I'm missing something I've never seen a zombie work a gun.

Zombies don't, but the LAMOEs do, and they can be even worse than the dead.

This is actually a kind of neat exercise. A zombie apocalypse is a good metaphor for everything going all pear shaped at once. If emergency services can prepare for a zombie outbreak, they are successfully prepared for just about anything.

CSB: I live in an earthquake and volcano prone area, but it wasn't until I started thinking "what would I do in a zombie outbreak scenario?" that I really started getting prepared for the actual disasters that might take place. Earthquakes, volcanoes, hurricanes, tornadoes, etc. are all so impersonal that they just don't inspire the kind of desire for emergency preparedness that zombies do. After I read World War Z, I started thinking about preparedness in a lot more detail, and now I have three weeks worth of water and a month worth of emergency rations, tools, first aid gear, and a lot of other equipment that I'll need when the earthquake finally hits. Before that, the basement was full of old furniture and crap that I always told myself I'd "get around to some day." Now it's a fully stocked shelter.


I know this is a dumbfark question, but here goes..

You are in an earthquake/volcano prone area. Your supplies are in the basement. What happens if your house caves in?

//Just askin''..
 
2012-10-30 02:22:30 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Ennuipoet: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Do they really need to commit a brigade force to find out where Carl is?

Carl is now a little badass, that brigade is deployed to find a way to make Lori stop whining.

The combined military might of the United States is only capable of so much.


We sent SEALS to take out Bin Laden, but can't stop Lori's whining. It happened on your watch, Obama.
 
2012-10-30 02:23:08 PM  

paygun: If you say it's a zombie exercise, it's cute. If you say it's an exercise where the opposing force is American citizens, it's not so cute.


**DING**
 
2012-10-30 02:23:27 PM  

angrymacface: By "zombies" they mean poor people.




www.citizenwars.com
 
2012-10-30 02:23:42 PM  
The cynical part of me sees zombie as the euphemism for crowd control.
 
2012-10-30 02:24:58 PM  

ha-ha-guy: The cynical part of me sees zombie as the euphemism for crowd control.


Population control. It's still the same.
 
2012-10-30 02:25:43 PM  
Zombies are real -- haven't you ever been to the DMV?
 
2012-10-30 02:26:01 PM  

angrymacface: By "zombies" they mean poor people.


Someone's a fan of Joss Whedon
 
2012-10-30 02:26:16 PM  
"Zombies" are those that will awaken from their TV/internet/video game trance when power goes out. They will be very angry and looking for Cheetos.
 
2012-10-30 02:26:19 PM  
It sounds like a large scale assassination attack at the core.

Throughout the past few centuries most assassinations were done by regularly dressed people at close range with cheap handguns. If your group wants to get someone with a security detail you are going to screw up if you don't make it happen with the first shot. The rest of your group will be needed for extraction.

This drill sounds like simulating extraction from a hostile populace. Like they're preparing for next time a dictator is about to fall and he takes a State Department offer to leave.
 
2012-10-30 02:27:13 PM  
Because "Zombies" is much more PC than "citizen uprising".
 
2012-10-30 02:27:16 PM  

angrymacface: By "zombies" they mean poor people.


Ever since a co-worker made a veiled racist inference several months ago, I perceive the "zombies" to be economically disadvantaged minorities, whenever people talk about being prepared for a zombie uprising.
 
2012-10-30 02:27:55 PM  
Stock in Hornady just went through the roof...

http://www.hornady.com/ammunition/zombiemax
 
2012-10-30 02:29:52 PM  
I know zombies cannot exist because they eat brains. They'd starve to death in this country.
 
2012-10-30 02:33:38 PM  
Why is everyone so infatuated with zombies?
 
2012-10-30 02:36:33 PM  
Remember, spam has its own key,. . . ;-)
 
2012-10-30 02:37:08 PM  

FloydA: Hershey Highway Patrol: "The VIP is wounded and his team must move through the town while dodging bullets and shooting back at the invading zombies."

Unless I'm missing something I've never seen a zombie work a gun.

Zombies don't, but the LAMOEs do, and they can be even worse than the dead.

This is actually a kind of neat exercise. A zombie apocalypse is a good metaphor for everything going all pear shaped at once. If emergency services can prepare for a zombie outbreak, they are successfully prepared for just about anything.

CSB: I live in an earthquake and volcano prone area, but it wasn't until I started thinking "what would I do in a zombie outbreak scenario?" that I really started getting prepared for the actual disasters that might take place. Earthquakes, volcanoes, hurricanes, tornadoes, etc. are all so impersonal that they just don't inspire the kind of desire for emergency preparedness that zombies do. After I read World War Z, I started thinking about preparedness in a lot more detail, and now I have three weeks worth of water and a month worth of emergency rations, tools, first aid gear, and a lot of other equipment that I'll need when the earthquake finally hits. Before that, the basement was full of old furniture and crap that I always told myself I'd "get around to some day." Now it's a fully stocked shelter.


Your only problem is that if/when disaster strikes, the basement is a trap. In a natural disaster, your house can collapse, be filled with water, burn, etc. It might serve it's purpose in the event of a pandemic, but that only gets you so far... You have about 2 weeks in any kind of disaster, natural or otherwise before the looting, rioting and pillaging begins... Grocery stores have only 2 days worth of food at any given time should they experience a food run. Stores get supplies nightly, and when the supply chain is cut off, they won't be able to keep up. Stores running out of food will be the trigger to the rioting.

The truth is, you don't need food and water for more than a week, after a week, if the government isn't able to aid, then you need to mobilize. You should have a plan. A place you are familiar with, a place far from urban and suburban areas with good resources, such as fresh water.

The things you should stock most of are tools that you won't be able to just get on a moments notice, water filters, purification tablets, good books on hunting, fishing, trapping, and good color books of wild edibles. Color books are key, you don't want to guess when it comes to eating plants in the wild.

Remember, have a plan. Your family should be familiar with it and know how to get to the place you all agree to. That way if you become separated, then you know where your destination is.

If aid doesn't arrive in a week, you should plan on getting the hell out before the rioting and looting begins... If you are in a city where tensions between people are high, you might consider shortening that time table...

Lets also not forget that when help does arrive, it's not always looking out for your property or your best interest. Blackwater agents seized guns and property from homes in LA after Katrina. The help you get, may not always be the help you want...

Be safe. Be alert. Be prepared...
 
2012-10-30 02:37:22 PM  
So I wonder what the government knows that we don't to make them think there may be a citizen uprising sometime soon?
 
2012-10-30 02:43:58 PM  
Why don't people in zombie movies ever think of spears? I know hastas aren't everywhere but just about any long pointy object. Get a choke point, set it against your foot or some other convenient base and it will stop a charge from a sprinter. Then even if it doesn't put him down you can run away and you get distance as the other guys are trying to get around him.
 
2012-10-30 02:47:04 PM  

RembrandtQEinstein: Why don't people in zombie movies ever think of spears? I know hastas aren't everywhere but just about any long pointy object. Get a choke point, set it against your foot or some other convenient base and it will stop a charge from a sprinter. Then even if it doesn't put him down you can run away and you get distance as the other guys are trying to get around him.


I think the problem there is that you've been carrying a long spear as your primary weapon and now it's stuck in a zombie's ribcage.
 
2012-10-30 02:47:13 PM  
Done in one. "Zombie outbreak" is a cute euphemism for "urban riot within the context of a general breakdown of local services and order."
 
2012-10-30 02:47:24 PM  
There's an additional perk to using zombies as your enemy- simplicity. The Army and Marine Corps have spent the past decade+ fighting counterinsurgencies. That fight is about gathering intelligence, trying to make the local population's life better, and training the local police and army to take care of their own security. A lot of conversations, a lot of sipping chai and respecting local customs.

With a zombie scenario, you don't have that option. "OK, I'm going to talk to the mayor and see if the town needs basic services."
"The mayor eats your face."

It takes certain options away, and let's the training focus on specific pieces. It's like how the US used to train to fight the Soviets- they're going to fight to the last man, only now of a sense of hunger for bra!nz, rather than politics and/or fear.
 
2012-10-30 02:47:26 PM  
So, for zombies are drills more effective than bayonets?
 
2012-10-30 02:47:42 PM  

On the Side: So I wonder what the government knows that we don't to make them think there may be a citizen uprising sometime soon?


November 7th
 
2012-10-30 02:49:30 PM  

FloydA: This is actually a kind of neat exercise. A zombie apocalypse is a good metaphor for everything going all pear shaped at once. If emergency services can prepare for a zombie outbreak, they are successfully prepared for just about anything.


That's pretty much why they do it. It covers things like biological hazards (people infected by bites, but not yet changed), mass crowd control/defense (handling the onrushing horde), breakdown of regular infrastructure (when the zombies come, the power won't last and the buses won't run), and so on. It has the added benefit of being politically correct, if silly- without any real world counterpart to complain about the military planning to fight them they can focus on the exercise and not PR.

CeroX: Blackwater agents seized guns and property from homes in LA after Katrina.


I don't know about Blackwater doing that, but the police sure as hell did.
 
2012-10-30 02:50:53 PM  

RembrandtQEinstein: Why don't people in zombie movies ever think of spears?


Those who do think of it discover that carrying a dozen spears slows down your getting through a doorway, especially if the door opens toward you. And they probably start leaving spears behind, being used to jam those same doors shut so the spear will slow down more than a single zombie per use.
 
2012-10-30 02:51:29 PM  
General: Today we will be having a mock zombie event. You are expected to perform as soldiers and make me proud. Even though this is just a training event, perform your duties as if the event is real. Now the zombies will be moving through corridor A. We will set up defensive positions here and here. Artillery and mortar spotters will be here, here and here. Heavy machine gun positions... Yes? Yes? What is it Specialist Freakstorm?

Are these slow moving zombies or the running jumping kind?

By Hillary Clinton's unshaved Nether Regions! Freakstorm, these zombies are the slow moving sort. But Intel says there maybe a few fast movers like if you lean forward to far and try to keep from falling. Now, we will position the... What Freakstorm? What?

Are these the shoot 'em in the head and they're dead zombies or are they immortal unless cut to tiny pieces zombies?

Freakstorm! They are believed to be the traditional type. You shoot them in any vital area and they drop. The numbers are what concerns me. That is why we are going to lay down a carpet of arty at 500 meters... What Freakstorm?

Do you have to be bit by 'em or is it just zombie spit that'll turn you? If we blow 'em up, what if it rains zombie guts and blood on us?

Okay Freakstorm. Since this is just a training exercise, I'm a-gonna do you a favor. Bang. You are dead, Freakstorm. No more worries for you. Now, just go over by the coffee and stay out of the way. The rest of you, get to your positions and wait my command.

Pretty much the same dialog got me out of Team Spirit 80.
 
2012-10-30 02:51:43 PM  

On the Side: So I wonder what the government knows that we don't to make them think there may be a citizen uprising sometime soon?


Mas hysteria surrounding the 2012 apocalypse myth could be a real threat to security. Think about it. On or around December 12th an earthquake, small meteor strike or unusually windy day will be all that it takes to send some nuts over the edge. Then all the slightly less insane start panicking and before you know it ordinary folks are seeing mobs of panicked people rioting and looting in the streets. Couple this with an endless stream of social media spamming from the fringes and even ordinary folks are going to start wondering if it might just possibly be the end of the world.
 
2012-10-30 02:53:15 PM  

jjwars1: Why is everyone so infatuated with zombies?


Necrophiliacs?
 
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