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(Politico)   Chris Christie: "I don't give a damn about Election Day. It doesn't matter a lick, bite, chew to me at the moment. I've got bigger fish, eggs, bacon to fry"   (politico.com) divider line 37
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2012-10-30 12:30:43 PM
5 votes:
Jeb/Rubio/Jindal are going to play this on infinite loop in attack ads come March 2016.

You can get away with a lot of things in the GOP. You can be completely devoid of any fundamental core principles. You can say rape is a gift from God. You can serve your cancer stricken wife with divorce papers to run off with your mistress. You can even Freudian slip and publicly admit you hate "blah" people. The one, and perhaps only, unforgivable sin is to praise sekret mooslum black Usurper in any way.
2012-10-30 12:17:11 PM
5 votes:

Genevieve Marie: That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.


He's thinking about his own upcoming re-election, I'd guess. NJ is still pretty blue, even with CC in charge, and he needs to lay groundwork to proclaim himself totes reasonable.

Or, maybe he's actually being a governor of a state instead of just a partisan Republican.
2012-10-30 12:31:59 PM
4 votes:
I must admit I've got a bit of Christie Chrush at the moment. He has responded as a governor should - caring about his state and the people in it above any partisan politics. Sadly, this should be the norm but isn't.
2012-10-30 12:22:56 PM
4 votes:

Elandriel: Genevieve Marie: That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.

He's thinking about his own upcoming re-election, I'd guess. NJ is still pretty blue, even with CC in charge, and he needs to lay groundwork to proclaim himself totes reasonable.

Or, maybe he's actually being a governor of a state instead of just a partisan Republican.


Kinda nice having adults in charge for a change. Let's hope the election keeps it that way.
2012-10-30 12:10:28 PM
4 votes:
This is really, really fascinating. On the one hand, it was the right thing to do- so maybe that's why he did it and I'm just incurably cynical.

But on the other hand... he praised the president pretty effusively while discouraging any thoughts of Mitt Romney or the campaign. I wonder if Romney pissed him off behind the scenes, or if he just sees the writing on the wall already.

Christie's done what, three or four interviews today praising the President's personal response? He's even giving little humanizing details, like letting people know the President was on the phone with him at midnight and gave him a personal number so he could get in touch easily with any more requests. That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.
2012-10-30 12:36:12 PM
3 votes:

HeartBurnKid: One of Christie's defining traits (speaking as somebody who's only seen him on the national news and clips on the internet, and never even been to NJ) seems to be that he doesn't know when to shut up. Apparently, that applies when he's praising somebody as well as when he's ranting.


I don't like Christie, but one thing he doesn't seem to be is full of shiat. He doesn't sugar-coat messages and many of his "gaffes," much like Biden's, are when he's simply not lying.
2012-10-30 12:26:12 PM
3 votes:

Genevieve Marie: This is really, really fascinating. On the one hand, it was the right thing to do- so maybe that's why he did it and I'm just incurably cynical.

But on the other hand... he praised the president pretty effusively while discouraging any thoughts of Mitt Romney or the campaign. I wonder if Romney pissed him off behind the scenes, or if he just sees the writing on the wall already.

Christie's done what, three or four interviews today praising the President's personal response? He's even giving little humanizing details, like letting people know the President was on the phone with him at midnight and gave him a personal number so he could get in touch easily with any more requests. That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.


As I have said in other threads, there are things that transcend politics.

9/11, for instance, put many people who were solidly against Bush in Bushes corner. When shiat hits the fan we come together and we drop the Democrat/Republican/Communist/Reptilian moniker and remember that we are all American.
2012-10-30 01:14:44 PM
2 votes:
For the love of God, can't some of you just appreciate when people put their bullshiat differences aside and work towards a greater good? Even our worst politicians still have something not election related they are loyal to. Stop making the world out to be worst than it is. Not everything is a political conspiracy. Obama and FEMA deserve praise for their quick response, and Christie deserves praise for saying so, despite the fact they were calling for him to run against Obama no less than a year ago.
2012-10-30 12:31:53 PM
2 votes:

sprawl15: cman: When shiat hits the fan we come together and we drop the Democrat/Republican/Communist/Reptilian moniker and remember that we are all American.

Unless it hits the fan in Libya.


That happened in Libya. It wasnt on our soil. It happened in a far away land. Those events are always politicized. Disasters at home are immune from it until the cleanup stage.
2012-10-30 12:29:14 PM
2 votes:

Genevieve Marie: Elandriel: Or, maybe he's actually being a governor of a state instead of just a partisan Republican.

You know, I'd chalk it up to that too if the praise wasn't so effusive. He very easily could have said something more along the lines of "President Obama and Fema have been very helpful and we appreciate their efforts" and that would still have been the right thing to do.
 
But I mean... he gave all kinds of detail on how the President went above and beyond, mentioning late night calls so the President could personally help expedite the disaster area declaration and also talking about how the President made sure he had a personal number to reach him in case he has any other needs.

That's... above and beyond normal praise. Nice to hear, for sure. But I still wonder if maybe there's something else going on there. Maybe Romney irked him this week, or maybe like you said, he's looking out for his own reelection prospects. Or who knows, maybe he's just being a decent guy and telling the truth?

Whole thing is weird though and I'm not quite sure what to make of it.


One of Christie's defining traits (speaking as somebody who's only seen him on the national news and clips on the internet, and never even been to NJ) seems to be that he doesn't know when to shut up. Apparently, that applies when he's praising somebody as well as when he's ranting.
2012-10-30 12:28:10 PM
2 votes:
Well, credit where credit is due. The fat man has his priorities straight and he's properly appreciative of the Federal aid that's coming in.

Maybe he saw Mitt's comments about FEMA's uselessness...
2012-10-31 01:19:48 AM
1 votes:
Christie doesn't respond well to hack reporters trying to bait an answer out of him, so instead of being tricked into partisanship, he recognized the usual bullshiat from the media and gave and over the top explanation contrary to what the hack media was expecting. Pretty simple.
2012-10-30 06:28:22 PM
1 votes:
I am not a person for Cristie... but a tip o' the hat for giving "it's due" where it belongs.
2012-10-30 05:22:39 PM
1 votes:

joonyer: Vindibudd: joonyer: Just a side note here: You get called a troll because your "points" are usually pointless and you're obviously just trying to piss people off. You rarely say anything of substance. Kind of like that awful comic. Hope you didn't quit your day job for that. Wow.

My points are generally in response to an opinion made by the typical FarkProg® (Fark Progressive). They are generally responded to with 1. BUSH EVIL 2. TROLL 3. OMG YOUR COMICS ARE AWFUL.

AGAIN, this is because your "points" are not points at all. Even in the face of derp, you need to present something logical, something factual or at least debatable. What you do is spit vitriol, and then you run away. But by all means, keep blaming those darn FarkProgs, they're the real problem, right?


Usage of the term "derp" is not instructive to advancing an argument. Rather than continually relying on Farker shorthand as a perceived stepping stone to intellectual superiority from with which to rain down your breathtakingly empty rhetoric, in future attempts to launch coherent salvos of well-reasoned expostulation, attempt to utilize actual English.

Also, feel free to define vitriol with pertinent excerpts. And I will not apologize for leaving Fark threads to participate in various activities of actual living. After all, it's generally myself engaging 30 of you. I'd be on here 24/7 if I were to respond to everyone who is desperate to hurl such awe-inspiring, debate winning, vocabulary defining, all-star terms like "derp."
2012-10-30 03:20:38 PM
1 votes:

ha-ha-guy: I hope it is the latter myself. Christie seems like one of those guys where even if you don't like all his policies, he's still a statesman so you don't need to panic when he runs the show. You know the kind of guy where you're not thrilled he won, but he seems functional enough


This, pretty much. I don't agree with his politics, but he appears to be an effective leader. I think Christie is trying to repair the State of New Jersey as quickly as possible because he's the governor of New Jersey. No one should be playing politics.
2012-10-30 01:45:29 PM
1 votes:

Genevieve Marie: Leeds: Genevieve Marie: And I found this from a few weeks ago. Looks like there are a lot of political tensions between the two of them: http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/communities/atlantic-city_pleasant v ille_brigantine/atlantic-city-mayor-lorenzo-langford-responds-to-gover nor-chris-christie/article_37555ae6-194e-11e2-a9ef-001a4bcf887a.html

Perhaps that's why this Langford fellow chose to risk people's lives. But in the end it's like stink-palming. Sure he got to defy the governor, but by doing so people died. Seems a short-sighted victory for someone who can be voted out of office...


He claims he didn't defy the governor at all, that he mandated evacuations as well,  but did set up a shelter of last resort for any pigheaded folks that stuck around against advice.

I don't know how true that is, but it does sound like there's blame shifting going on between both of  them, and that their dispute is more about disliking each other than it is about what happened here.


I read first thing this morning that the shelter flooded and had to be evacuated mid-storm. That put people in harms way more than anything else.

The mayor pulled a Ray Nagin.
2012-10-30 01:26:14 PM
1 votes:

Wendolyn the Wired: He's promised to reschedule Halloween, but he's being pretty vague on whether he'll ensure that New Jersey citizens have the opportunity to vote.


Halloween is tomorrow. Voting is a week from Thursday.

CALENDARS, HOW THE fark DO THEY WORK?
2012-10-30 01:23:42 PM
1 votes:

Fista-Phobia: I think election day is a pretty big effin deal. How is what he said an example of being an adult?


People are in serious risk of dying. Entire homes have been lost. The election is important but not as important as mortal danger. The election means some people's taxes might go up or down a couple percentage points. When you're staring at an empty lot where your house used to be that seems rather a quaint thing to concern yourself with.
2012-10-30 12:57:15 PM
1 votes:

Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Hold a campaign rally in Ohio it would seem.

Well he's not the president, so he can do anything he wants.

Exactly. And while the dead are still being pulled from the rubble why not have a party!


Kind of like Obama going to Vegas while they're pulling a dead ambassador out of Benghazi, amirite?
2012-10-30 12:54:07 PM
1 votes:

Vindibudd: Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Hold a campaign rally in Ohio it would seem.

Well he's not the president, so he can do anything he wants.


Exactly. And while the dead are still being pulled from the rubble why not have a party!
2012-10-30 12:49:39 PM
1 votes:

Fista-Phobia: I think election day is a pretty big effin deal. How is what he said an example of being an adult?


If you have to ask, you'll never know.
2012-10-30 12:46:06 PM
1 votes:

rcantley: On the plus side, anything that reduces Santorum's chances of winning the nomination can only be seen as ends justifying means.


Paul Ryan being VP nominee has effectively killed whatever chance Santorum had of running for President. All the same conservative wingnut pro-life views without the baggage of seeming like a conservative wingnut pro-life cause he knows budget stuff.
2012-10-30 12:44:32 PM
1 votes:
You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.
2012-10-30 12:42:53 PM
1 votes:

Fista-Phobia: I think election day is a pretty big effin deal. How is what he said an example of being an adult?


Because elections don't matter compared to people being driven from their homes by hurricane winds and flooding.
2012-10-30 12:41:03 PM
1 votes:

bulldg4life: Genevieve Marie: This is really, really fascinating. On the one hand, it was the right thing to do- so maybe that's why he did it and I'm just incurably cynical.

He can't run in 2016 against an incumbent Romney.

a) It helps him for any re-election ideas in NJ
2) An Obama re-election means he can run in 2016 vs 2020
d) He really doesn't want to have to wait 8 years to run for president


This makes a good deal of sense. He knows that he stands a good chance in 2016 if Romney fails in 2012. If Romney wins, he'll have to wait until 2020 and I he knows that he has to strike while his star is still rising.

So, why bother supporting Romney now? I imagine his advisers have already shown him the raw numbers and the likelihood of Obama's re-election. Why not get in good with his voters while palling up with the President for a couple of years?
2012-10-30 12:40:50 PM
1 votes:

doubled99: As I have said in other threads, there are things that transcend politics.



Like naivete'


Or intellegunce.
2012-10-30 12:39:39 PM
1 votes:
As I have said in other threads, there are things that transcend politics.



Like naivete'
2012-10-30 12:36:54 PM
1 votes:

Elandriel: Genevieve Marie: That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.

He's thinking about his own upcoming re-election, I'd guess. NJ is still pretty blue, even with CC in charge, and he needs to lay groundwork to proclaim himself totes reasonable.

Or, maybe he's actually being a governor of a state instead of just a partisan Republican.


He's got his eye on 2016.
2012-10-30 12:36:24 PM
1 votes:

Genevieve Marie: This is really, really fascinating. On the one hand, it was the right thing to do- so maybe that's why he did it and I'm just incurably cynical.


He can't run in 2016 against an incumbent Romney.

a) It helps him for any re-election ideas in NJ
2) An Obama re-election means he can run in 2016 vs 2020
d) He really doesn't want to have to wait 8 years to run for president
2012-10-30 12:36:13 PM
1 votes:

Genevieve Marie: This is really, really fascinating. On the one hand, it was the right thing to do- so maybe that's why he did it and I'm just incurably cynical.

But on the other hand... he praised the president pretty effusively while discouraging any thoughts of Mitt Romney or the campaign. I wonder if Romney pissed him off behind the scenes, or if he just sees the writing on the wall already.

Christie's done what, three or four interviews today praising the President's personal response? He's even giving little humanizing details, like letting people know the President was on the phone with him at midnight and gave him a personal number so he could get in touch easily with any more requests. That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.


This doesn't seem inconsistent for him. He's always struck me as a stand-up guy, if kind of a dick. He's in a situation where anything he does is going to piss somebody off, so he is going with what he thinks is right.
2012-10-30 12:33:58 PM
1 votes:

cman: As I have said in other threads, there are things that transcend politics.

9/11, for instance, put many people who were solidly against Bush in Bushes corner. When shiat hits the fan we come together and we drop the Democrat/Republican/Communist/Reptilian moniker and remember that we are all American.


In general, yes. In practice, we have people so hateful and partisan they'll use anything, even a tragedy.
2012-10-30 12:33:56 PM
1 votes:
Genevieve Marie

It's doesnt have to be an ether/or situation.
It's quite likely that both are true.
2012-10-30 12:33:12 PM
1 votes:
Might be beginning his 2016 presidential run as a no-nonsense politician open to bipartisanship. He won't win the GOP primary that way, though.
2012-10-30 12:32:41 PM
1 votes:
Sadly, just 11 years, 1 month and 19 days ago, this type of sentiment was the norm across party lines.
2012-10-30 12:30:30 PM
1 votes:

ltdanman44: Mr. Christie, who has bitterly criticized the president as a surrogate for GOP challenger Mitt Romney on the campaign trail, said he had been called by Mr. Obama three times Monday and was delighted by how responsive the president was to his pleas for help.

"The president has been great,'' Mr. Christie said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe.'' "The president has been all over this and he deserves great credit.''


I wonder how hard the GOP is screaming at him now...
2012-10-30 12:28:31 PM
1 votes:

cman: When shiat hits the fan we come together and we drop the Democrat/Republican/Communist/Reptilian moniker and remember that we are all American.


Unless it hits the fan in Libya.
2012-10-30 12:24:01 PM
1 votes:

Elandriel: Or, maybe he's actually being a governor of a state instead of just a partisan Republican.


You know, I'd chalk it up to that too if the praise wasn't so effusive. He very easily could have said something more along the lines of "President Obama and Fema have been very helpful and we appreciate their efforts" and that would still have been the right thing to do.
 
But I mean... he gave all kinds of detail on how the President went above and beyond, mentioning late night calls so the President could personally help expedite the disaster area declaration and also talking about how the President made sure he had a personal number to reach him in case he has any other needs.

That's... above and beyond normal praise. Nice to hear, for sure. But I still wonder if maybe there's something else going on there. Maybe Romney irked him this week, or maybe like you said, he's looking out for his own reelection prospects. Or who knows, maybe he's just being a decent guy and telling the truth?

Whole thing is weird though and I'm not quite sure what to make of it.
 
 
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