Elandriel: Genevieve Marie: That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.

He's thinking about his own upcoming re-election, I'd guess. NJ is still pretty blue, even with CC in charge, and he needs to lay groundwork to proclaim himself totes reasonable.

Or, maybe he's actually being a governor of a state instead of just a partisan Republican.

Sounds like RINO talk to me...

Infernalist: bulldg4life: Genevieve Marie: This is really, really fascinating. On the one hand, it was the right thing to do- so maybe that's why he did it and I'm just incurably cynical.

He can't run in 2016 against an incumbent Romney.

a) It helps him for any re-election ideas in NJ
2) An Obama re-election means he can run in 2016 vs 2020
d) He really doesn't want to have to wait 8 years to run for president

This makes a good deal of sense. He knows that he stands a good chance in 2016 if Romney fails in 2012. If Romney wins, he'll have to wait until 2020 and I he knows that he has to strike while his star is still rising.

So, why bother supporting Romney now? I imagine his advisers have already shown him the raw numbers and the likelihood of Obama's re-election. Why not get in good with his voters while palling up with the President for a couple of years?

Exactly. He wants Obama to win as much as Obama does.

Fista-Phobia: I think election day is a pretty big effin deal. How is what he said an example of being an adult?

Because elections don't matter compared to people being driven from their homes by hurricane winds and flooding.

Infernalist: So, why bother supporting Romney now? I imagine his advisers have already shown him the raw numbers and the likelihood of Obama's re-election. Why not get in good with his voters while palling up with the President for a couple of years?

Because he still has to have some semblance of credibility to get through the GOP primary. He's not going to be able to defeat someone to the right of him (considering his size, well right of him) if he's been palling around with a terrorist for 5 years.

Fista-Phobia: I think election day is a pretty big effin deal. How is what he said an example of being an adult?

Yes, because who is president in three months has a much bigger effect on the people whose lives and livelihood are in danger than the current relief efforts.

Shrugging Atlas: If Romney loses, here's a lot of video for 2016 of Christie being a "people before politics guy" and saying nice things about the outgoing President. Wingnuts aren't going to bag on him about it in the Primaries because Christie can respond with, "That was in the middle of a crisis in which the lives of people in my state were at risk. What in the fark exactly have you been doing with YOUR time the past 10 years Mr. Santorum."

/cynical

On the plus side, anything that reduces Santorum's chances of winning the nomination can only be seen as ends justifying means.

You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Genevieve Marie: This is really, really fascinating. On the one hand, it was the right thing to do- so maybe that's why he did it and I'm just incurably cynical.

But on the other hand... he praised the president pretty effusively while discouraging any thoughts of Mitt Romney or the campaign. I wonder if Romney pissed him off behind the scenes, or if he just sees the writing on the wall already.

Christie's done what, three or four interviews today praising the President's personal response? He's even giving little humanizing details, like letting people know the President was on the phone with him at midnight and gave him a personal number so he could get in touch easily with any more requests. That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.

More likely he believes that doing anything that reeks of politics during the immediate aftermath of this disaster will backfire. There will be time for talking shiat about the President later. Right now he wants to show that he's taking the high road.

It looks like he learned since that vacation to Disney when the blizzard was just arriving.


Genevieve Marie: This is really, really fascinating. On the one hand, it was the right thing to do- so maybe that's why he did it and I'm just incurably cynical.

But on the other hand... he praised the president pretty effusively while discouraging any thoughts of Mitt Romney or the campaign. I wonder if Romney pissed him off behind the scenes, or if he just sees the writing on the wall already.

Christie's done what, three or four interviews today praising the President's personal response? He's even giving little humanizing details, like letting people know the President was on the phone with him at midnight and gave him a personal number so he could get in touch easily with any more requests. That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.

It is because he knows MItt has no chance and he will have to worry about Booker next year.

rcantley: On the plus side, anything that reduces Santorum's chances of winning the nomination can only be seen as ends justifying means.

Paul Ryan being VP nominee has effectively killed whatever chance Santorum had of running for President. All the same conservative wingnut pro-life views without the baggage of seeming like a conservative wingnut pro-life cause he knows budget stuff.

bulldg4life: Infernalist: So, why bother supporting Romney now? I imagine his advisers have already shown him the raw numbers and the likelihood of Obama's re-election. Why not get in good with his voters while palling up with the President for a couple of years?

Because he still has to have some semblance of credibility to get through the GOP primary. He's not going to be able to defeat someone to the right of him (considering his size, well right of him) if he's been palling around with a terrorist for 5 years.

He'll be labeled a RINO no matter what, just like Romney. Obviously, he'll have a better chance winning in 2016 than 2020. And hell, maybe after they lose next week, the grownups will finally take back control of the GOP.

bulldg4life: Infernalist: So, why bother supporting Romney now? I imagine his advisers have already shown him the raw numbers and the likelihood of Obama's re-election. Why not get in good with his voters while palling up with the President for a couple of years?

Because he still has to have some semblance of credibility to get through the GOP primary. He's not going to be able to defeat someone to the right of him (considering his size, well right of him) if he's been palling around with a terrorist for 5 years.

Romney is the current candidate for the GOP, not Santorum, Crazy-eyes, or Perry Goodhair.

Romney got savaged in the primaries and here he is, courageously and failing, epic-style.

The GOP is never going to give a wingnut a chance at the big chair.

Bukharin: I didnt mean to leave open a bold tag.

I thought it lent a nice air of gravity.

Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Not one single person has hypothesized that Christie is pissed at Romney.

keylock71: Oh, he's not concerned about the upcoming Election Day, at any rate.

Now, 2016, on the other hand....

His keynote address at the RNC that focused almost entirely on himself and didn't mention Romney until 16 minutes into the speech would support this.....

Christie vs Hillary 2016

The writing on the wall, or just "big breakfast" going to my head?

Fista-Phobia: I think election day is a pretty big effin deal. How is what he said an example of being an adult?

If you have to ask, you'll never know.

It's making the freepers go bananas

"0bama excels in areas where the decision is so obvious that even a 5 year old would know what to do.

Otherwise,was Kissie damning 0turd with praise or
is he just a big suck up?

31 posted on Tuesday October 30, 09:34:18 GMT-0400 2012 by Leep"

Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Hold a campaign rally in Ohio it would seem.

eddiesocket: Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Not one single person has hypothesized that Christie is pissed at Romney.

Dude read from the beginning of the thread please.

EdNortonsTwin: Christie vs Hillary 2016

The writing on the wall, or just "big breakfast" going to my head?

She's done. I'll go out on a limb here and predict that she's not running again. I think she realizes that the GOP will simply hate her too much to ever get elected.

Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Hold a campaign rally in Ohio it would seem.

Well he's not the president, so he can do anything he wants.

Sure, maybe he has cynical motives, but basically all politicians do. Doing the right thing for the wrong reasons is still, at the very least, the right thing. This will take some wind out of Romney's "cut every domestic program we have and spend more on world policing" stance, so I can't fault him.

/Good luck NJ

Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Fista-Phobia: I think election day is a pretty big effin deal. How is what he said an example of being an adult?

If you have to ask, you'll never know.

Or potentially not vote. But hey, bravado is comforting.

Vindibudd: Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Hold a campaign rally in Ohio it would seem.

Well he's not the president, so he can do anything he wants.

Exactly. And while the dead are still being pulled from the rubble why not have a party!

He's promised to reschedule Halloween, but he's being pretty vague on whether he'll ensure that New Jersey citizens have the opportunity to vote.

Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Hold a campaign rally in Ohio it would seem.

Well he's not the president, so he can do anything he wants.

Exactly. And while the dead are still being pulled from the rubble why not have a party!

Kind of like Obama going to Vegas while they're pulling a dead ambassador out of Benghazi, amirite?

Vindibudd: Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Hold a campaign rally in Ohio it would seem.

Well he's not the president, so he can do anything he wants.

They outright said that Romney was looking to 'tour the damage' with Christie. A photo-op in other words. And Christie outright say 'NO' in no uncertain terms.

This is Christie not just bailing on supporting Romney, but outright refusing...PUBLICLY, to give him even the slightest bit of positive PR.

It's either personal animosity, or a ruthlessly cynical approach to the 2012 election, or a paradigm shift in terms of how he views the President due to the enthusiastic Federal aid and support.

Vindibudd: eddiesocket: Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Not one single person has hypothesized that Christie is pissed at Romney.

Dude read from the beginning of the thread please.

You're right, I'm sorry. One person (who apparently to you represents all "FarkProgs") speculated that as one possibility. You're still a tremendous idiot.

Vindibudd: Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Hold a campaign rally in Ohio it would seem.

Well he's not the president, so he can do anything he wants.

Exactly. And while the dead are still being pulled from the rubble why not have a party!

Kind of like Obama going to Vegas while they're pulling a dead ambassador out of Benghazi, amirite?

He's the president, he can do whatever he wants.

See? Being a disingenious weasel works both ways! Amirite? Besides, Vindi you've never come here for an honest debate. You just throw your monkey crap and leave.

So what's keeping you?

She's done. I'll go out on a limb here and predict that she's not running again. I think she realizes that the GOP will simply hate her too much to ever get elected.

I disagree. If Obama wins, she'll resign and do the speaking tour thing and brush up her domestic chops, getting rested for 2016. I think Bill and Obama really don't like each other and only the reason Bill is trying to get him re-elected so hard is because he knows the economy is going to improve over the next 4 years and whoever is in the Oval Office will get credit. If it's Romney, he'll get re-elected. If it's Obama, it makes the Dems look good and Hillary's message will be "you want four more years? Here I am!"

Genevieve Marie: Wendolyn the Wired: He's promised to reschedule Halloween, but he's being pretty vague on whether he'll ensure that New Jersey citizens have the opportunity to vote.


In all fairness to Christie, Halloween is a whole lot easier to reschedule. The logistics on an election are a whole lot more complicated than just announcing "Hey, we should give out candy on Friday instead of Wednesday."

FEMA's working on plans for alternate polling places and other provisions as we speak. I imagine they'll announce how they plan to handle it over the next few days.

I'm glad to hear that...thanks!

Infernalist: Vindibudd: Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Hold a campaign rally in Ohio it would seem.

Well he's not the president, so he can do anything he wants.

They outright said that Romney was looking to 'tour the damage' with Christie. A photo-op in other words. And Christie outright say 'NO' in no uncertain terms.

This is Christie not just bailing on supporting Romney, but outright refusing...PUBLICLY, to give him even the slightest bit of positive PR.

It's either personal animosity, or a ruthlessly cynical approach to the 2012 election, or a paradigm shift in terms of how he views the President due to the enthusiastic Federal aid and support.

Or it could be that having Romney along would be a major pain in the ass security wise and would just get in the way.

Same with Obama, wherever he goes, he creates a security headache, it's better to direct from afar.

Is it possible that Christie is just a regular guy?
He says whats on his mind, doesn't sugarcoat things, occasionally just says something dumb, but recognizes good work when he sees it?

I want to believe!

Meanwhile...

Romney campaign now playing their campaign video from the RNC at their charity concert in Ohio for Sandy victims.
- @ChrisLaibleFN

Christie is a class act. Who knew?

Romney is an utter scumbag. We all knew.

The Decider: I disagree. If Obama wins, she'll resign and do the speaking tour thing and brush up her domestic chops, getting rested for 2016. I think Bill and Obama really don't like each other and only the reason Bill is trying to get him re-elected so hard is because he knows the economy is going to improve over the next 4 years and whoever is in the Oval Office will get credit. If it's Romney, he'll get re-elected. If it's Obama, it makes the Dems look good and Hillary's message will be "you want four more years? Here I am!"

I don't understand the idea that Clinton would get the nomination over Biden. If Biden wants it, how is it not his to lose?

Fox News co-host Steve Doocy wondered when Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney was going to get some of the same benefits from the hurricane with a photo op in disaster-stricken New Jersey towns.

"Over the last couple of months, you have appeared throughout the country, Governor, on behalf of Mitt Romney," Doocy remarked to Christie. "[W]e hear that perhaps Mr. Romney may do some storm-related events. Is there any possibility that Gov. Romney may go to New Jersey to tour some of the damage with you?"


"Hey, when can Romney exploit this disaster?". Way to worry about the things that matter, Steve, you ridiculous douchebag.

cman: Genevieve Marie: This is really, really fascinating. On the one hand, it was the right thing to do- so maybe that's why he did it and I'm just incurably cynical.

But on the other hand... he praised the president pretty effusively while discouraging any thoughts of Mitt Romney or the campaign. I wonder if Romney pissed him off behind the scenes, or if he just sees the writing on the wall already.

Christie's done what, three or four interviews today praising the President's personal response? He's even giving little humanizing details, like letting people know the President was on the phone with him at midnight and gave him a personal number so he could get in touch easily with any more requests. That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.

As I have said in other threads, there are things that transcend politics.

9/11, for instance, put many people who were solidly against Bush in Bushes corner. When shiat hits the fan we come together and we drop the Democrat/Republican/Communist/Reptilian moniker and remember that we are all American.

I agree with that statement, but want to tweak it a smudge. I think in most natural disaster related situations, people drop the hate (at least briefly) and remember that they are all human beings, regardless of race, religion, political views, and help each other. They don't look to blame, or take credit, they are all in together.

The majority of the time, anyway. I'm sure some of you jaded farkers will mock that comment, but that's fine. Most of the time I don't read the comments after I post, so I don't get annoyed with the trolls

rcantley: The Decider: I disagree. If Obama wins, she'll resign and do the speaking tour thing and brush up her domestic chops, getting rested for 2016. I think Bill and Obama really don't like each other and only the reason Bill is trying to get him re-elected so hard is because he knows the economy is going to improve over the next 4 years and whoever is in the Oval Office will get credit. If it's Romney, he'll get re-elected. If it's Obama, it makes the Dems look good and Hillary's message will be "you want four more years? Here I am!"

I don't understand the idea that Clinton would get the nomination over Biden. If Biden wants it, how is it not his to lose?

Biden is a corporate whore, I might actually vote republican just to keep him out of office.

/Voting Johnson because I don't live in a swing state.
//Electoral College disenfranchises voters.

Christie might be the first and only "Republican" I would vote for, if he ran in 2016.

/GOBAMA

rcantley: I don't understand the idea that Clinton would get the nomination over Biden. If Biden wants it, how is it not his to lose?

He's getting old. He'll be 73 in 2016.

I don't understand the idea that Clinton would get the nomination over Biden. If Biden wants it, how is it not his to lose?

I keep hearing that he didn't even want the VP job, he wanted Hillary's job. I've just never heard anyone talk of Biden's desire to be Prez, maybe he will.

For the love of God, can't some of you just appreciate when people put their bullshiat differences aside and work towards a greater good? Even our worst politicians still have something not election related they are loyal to. Stop making the world out to be worst than it is. Not everything is a political conspiracy. Obama and FEMA deserve praise for their quick response, and Christie deserves praise for saying so, despite the fact they were calling for him to run against Obama no less than a year ago.

JokerMattly: Is it possible that Christie is just a regular guy?
He says whats on his mind, doesn't sugarcoat things, occasionally just says something dumb, but recognizes good work when he sees it?

I want to believe!

God, can you imagine a Biden/Christie ticket? Would never happen for obvious reasons, but...the very concept makes my head hurt.

Not Christie's first foray into being level headed and shouting down the derp.

Link

and it was absolutely PRICELESS watching those three turds sit there and have to listen to another Republican praise the President. You could almost hear their collective wincing.

Glad to see Christie tell the GOP "Back off, crisis time now, politics later."