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(Politico)   Chris Christie: "I don't give a damn about Election Day. It doesn't matter a lick, bite, chew to me at the moment. I've got bigger fish, eggs, bacon to fry"   (politico.com) divider line 169
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2012-10-30 12:10:28 PM
This is really, really fascinating. On the one hand, it was the right thing to do- so maybe that's why he did it and I'm just incurably cynical.

But on the other hand... he praised the president pretty effusively while discouraging any thoughts of Mitt Romney or the campaign. I wonder if Romney pissed him off behind the scenes, or if he just sees the writing on the wall already.

Christie's done what, three or four interviews today praising the President's personal response? He's even giving little humanizing details, like letting people know the President was on the phone with him at midnight and gave him a personal number so he could get in touch easily with any more requests. That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.
 
2012-10-30 12:17:11 PM

Genevieve Marie: That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.


He's thinking about his own upcoming re-election, I'd guess. NJ is still pretty blue, even with CC in charge, and he needs to lay groundwork to proclaim himself totes reasonable.

Or, maybe he's actually being a governor of a state instead of just a partisan Republican.
 
2012-10-30 12:22:56 PM

Elandriel: Genevieve Marie: That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.

He's thinking about his own upcoming re-election, I'd guess. NJ is still pretty blue, even with CC in charge, and he needs to lay groundwork to proclaim himself totes reasonable.

Or, maybe he's actually being a governor of a state instead of just a partisan Republican.


Kinda nice having adults in charge for a change. Let's hope the election keeps it that way.
 
2012-10-30 12:24:01 PM

Elandriel: Or, maybe he's actually being a governor of a state instead of just a partisan Republican.


You know, I'd chalk it up to that too if the praise wasn't so effusive. He very easily could have said something more along the lines of "President Obama and Fema have been very helpful and we appreciate their efforts" and that would still have been the right thing to do.
 
But I mean... he gave all kinds of detail on how the President went above and beyond, mentioning late night calls so the President could personally help expedite the disaster area declaration and also talking about how the President made sure he had a personal number to reach him in case he has any other needs.

That's... above and beyond normal praise. Nice to hear, for sure. But I still wonder if maybe there's something else going on there. Maybe Romney irked him this week, or maybe like you said, he's looking out for his own reelection prospects. Or who knows, maybe he's just being a decent guy and telling the truth?

Whole thing is weird though and I'm not quite sure what to make of it.
 
 
2012-10-30 12:25:52 PM
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2012-10-30 12:26:12 PM

Genevieve Marie: This is really, really fascinating. On the one hand, it was the right thing to do- so maybe that's why he did it and I'm just incurably cynical.

But on the other hand... he praised the president pretty effusively while discouraging any thoughts of Mitt Romney or the campaign. I wonder if Romney pissed him off behind the scenes, or if he just sees the writing on the wall already.

Christie's done what, three or four interviews today praising the President's personal response? He's even giving little humanizing details, like letting people know the President was on the phone with him at midnight and gave him a personal number so he could get in touch easily with any more requests. That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.


As I have said in other threads, there are things that transcend politics.

9/11, for instance, put many people who were solidly against Bush in Bushes corner. When shiat hits the fan we come together and we drop the Democrat/Republican/Communist/Reptilian moniker and remember that we are all American.
 
2012-10-30 12:28:10 PM
Well, credit where credit is due. The fat man has his priorities straight and he's properly appreciative of the Federal aid that's coming in.

Maybe he saw Mitt's comments about FEMA's uselessness...
 
2012-10-30 12:28:31 PM

cman: When shiat hits the fan we come together and we drop the Democrat/Republican/Communist/Reptilian moniker and remember that we are all American.


Unless it hits the fan in Libya.
 
2012-10-30 12:28:33 PM
We get it, he's fat.

/still chuckled
 
2012-10-30 12:29:14 PM

Genevieve Marie: Elandriel: Or, maybe he's actually being a governor of a state instead of just a partisan Republican.

You know, I'd chalk it up to that too if the praise wasn't so effusive. He very easily could have said something more along the lines of "President Obama and Fema have been very helpful and we appreciate their efforts" and that would still have been the right thing to do.
 
But I mean... he gave all kinds of detail on how the President went above and beyond, mentioning late night calls so the President could personally help expedite the disaster area declaration and also talking about how the President made sure he had a personal number to reach him in case he has any other needs.

That's... above and beyond normal praise. Nice to hear, for sure. But I still wonder if maybe there's something else going on there. Maybe Romney irked him this week, or maybe like you said, he's looking out for his own reelection prospects. Or who knows, maybe he's just being a decent guy and telling the truth?

Whole thing is weird though and I'm not quite sure what to make of it.


One of Christie's defining traits (speaking as somebody who's only seen him on the national news and clips on the internet, and never even been to NJ) seems to be that he doesn't know when to shut up. Apparently, that applies when he's praising somebody as well as when he's ranting.
 
2012-10-30 12:29:27 PM
Self-Preservation. He cannot be seen as being partisan at the expense of the people.

/Deep down they are all plutocrats
 
2012-10-30 12:29:37 PM
Mr. Christie, who has bitterly criticized the president as a surrogate for GOP challenger Mitt Romney on the campaign trail, said he had been called by Mr. Obama three times Monday and was delighted by how responsive the president was to his pleas for help.

"The president has been great,'' Mr. Christie said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe.'' "The president has been all over this and he deserves great credit.''
 
2012-10-30 12:30:30 PM

ltdanman44: Mr. Christie, who has bitterly criticized the president as a surrogate for GOP challenger Mitt Romney on the campaign trail, said he had been called by Mr. Obama three times Monday and was delighted by how responsive the president was to his pleas for help.

"The president has been great,'' Mr. Christie said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe.'' "The president has been all over this and he deserves great credit.''


I wonder how hard the GOP is screaming at him now...
 
2012-10-30 12:30:43 PM
Jeb/Rubio/Jindal are going to play this on infinite loop in attack ads come March 2016.

You can get away with a lot of things in the GOP. You can be completely devoid of any fundamental core principles. You can say rape is a gift from God. You can serve your cancer stricken wife with divorce papers to run off with your mistress. You can even Freudian slip and publicly admit you hate "blah" people. The one, and perhaps only, unforgivable sin is to praise sekret mooslum black Usurper in any way.
 
2012-10-30 12:31:33 PM
lol he's overweight
 
2012-10-30 12:31:53 PM

sprawl15: cman: When shiat hits the fan we come together and we drop the Democrat/Republican/Communist/Reptilian moniker and remember that we are all American.

Unless it hits the fan in Libya.


That happened in Libya. It wasnt on our soil. It happened in a far away land. Those events are always politicized. Disasters at home are immune from it until the cleanup stage.
 
2012-10-30 12:31:59 PM
I must admit I've got a bit of Christie Chrush at the moment. He has responded as a governor should - caring about his state and the people in it above any partisan politics. Sadly, this should be the norm but isn't.
 
2012-10-30 12:32:06 PM

Elandriel: He's thinking about his own upcoming re-election, I'd guess. NJ is still pretty blue, even with CC in charge, and he needs to lay groundwork to proclaim himself totes reasonable.


I'm going to hold off on that level of cynicism and stick to thinking that he honestly appreciates the federal government's help and responsiveness for now, but I have to concede that you have a point. Many members of my family have had their first kind words to say about their governor today. If this is a play, it's a smart one.
 
2012-10-30 12:32:41 PM
Sadly, just 11 years, 1 month and 19 days ago, this type of sentiment was the norm across party lines.
 
2012-10-30 12:32:43 PM
Just burn and sink the whole damn state, greasy governor included.
 
2012-10-30 12:32:52 PM

Infernalist: ltdanman44: Mr. Christie, who has bitterly criticized the president as a surrogate for GOP challenger Mitt Romney on the campaign trail, said he had been called by Mr. Obama three times Monday and was delighted by how responsive the president was to his pleas for help.

"The president has been great,'' Mr. Christie said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe.'' "The president has been all over this and he deserves great credit.''

I wonder how hard the GOP is screaming at him now...


I am somewhat curious as to the Freeper response to Governor Christie.
 
2012-10-30 12:33:12 PM
Might be beginning his 2016 presidential run as a no-nonsense politician open to bipartisanship. He won't win the GOP primary that way, though.
 
2012-10-30 12:33:40 PM
Did you guys know he's fat? Haha, I heard he's fat.

/it's funny when we do it right? Make fun of personal appearances?
//good on you Gov., I can think of some folks in your position that would be partisaning the shiat out of this for election purposes
 
2012-10-30 12:33:56 PM
Genevieve Marie

It's doesnt have to be an ether/or situation.
It's quite likely that both are true.
 
2012-10-30 12:33:58 PM

cman: As I have said in other threads, there are things that transcend politics.

9/11, for instance, put many people who were solidly against Bush in Bushes corner. When shiat hits the fan we come together and we drop the Democrat/Republican/Communist/Reptilian moniker and remember that we are all American.


In general, yes. In practice, we have people so hateful and partisan they'll use anything, even a tragedy.
 
2012-10-30 12:34:14 PM
I say about 60% of it is doing the right thing, 20% is just to spite Mitt, and 20% of it is thinking to 2016
 
2012-10-30 12:34:46 PM
I didnt mean to leave open a bold tag.
 
2012-10-30 12:34:47 PM
so he's not biting the hand that feeds him? that's pretty smart thinking for a Republican.
 
2012-10-30 12:34:50 PM
I saw nothing in his statements that warranted a HERO tag for that fat fark.
 
2012-10-30 12:34:59 PM
"The level of devastation on the Jersey Shore is unthinkable,"

I know, Snooky barely batted an eyelash.
 
2012-10-30 12:35:09 PM

thurstonxhowell: Elandriel: He's thinking about his own upcoming re-election, I'd guess. NJ is still pretty blue, even with CC in charge, and he needs to lay groundwork to proclaim himself totes reasonable.

I'm going to hold off on that level of cynicism and stick to thinking that he honestly appreciates the federal government's help and responsiveness for now, but I have to concede that you have a point. Many members of my family have had their first kind words to say about their governor today. If this is a play, it's a smart one.


How sincere is it? It's impossible to say.

Maybe he's honestly appreciative of the President's efforts.

And if it's a ploy, then it's a devastatingly revealing ploy: He's basically saying that he's willing to buck the GOP's standard line of "Obama=Bad!" in order to gain support among his constituents.

There's a term for that: Rats fleeing a sinking ship.
 
2012-10-30 12:35:49 PM
Christie is more concerned about getting re-elected than helping Romney. Know how the GOP is always pushing the idea that every person is an island, and you're all on your own? It applies to their own, as well.
 
2012-10-30 12:35:59 PM
I'm having a hard time figuring out who the hero is. Maybe both?
 
2012-10-30 12:36:12 PM

HeartBurnKid: One of Christie's defining traits (speaking as somebody who's only seen him on the national news and clips on the internet, and never even been to NJ) seems to be that he doesn't know when to shut up. Apparently, that applies when he's praising somebody as well as when he's ranting.


I don't like Christie, but one thing he doesn't seem to be is full of shiat. He doesn't sugar-coat messages and many of his "gaffes," much like Biden's, are when he's simply not lying.
 
2012-10-30 12:36:13 PM

Genevieve Marie: This is really, really fascinating. On the one hand, it was the right thing to do- so maybe that's why he did it and I'm just incurably cynical.

But on the other hand... he praised the president pretty effusively while discouraging any thoughts of Mitt Romney or the campaign. I wonder if Romney pissed him off behind the scenes, or if he just sees the writing on the wall already.

Christie's done what, three or four interviews today praising the President's personal response? He's even giving little humanizing details, like letting people know the President was on the phone with him at midnight and gave him a personal number so he could get in touch easily with any more requests. That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.


This doesn't seem inconsistent for him. He's always struck me as a stand-up guy, if kind of a dick. He's in a situation where anything he does is going to piss somebody off, so he is going with what he thinks is right.
 
2012-10-30 12:36:24 PM

Genevieve Marie: This is really, really fascinating. On the one hand, it was the right thing to do- so maybe that's why he did it and I'm just incurably cynical.


He can't run in 2016 against an incumbent Romney.

a) It helps him for any re-election ideas in NJ
2) An Obama re-election means he can run in 2016 vs 2020
d) He really doesn't want to have to wait 8 years to run for president
 
2012-10-30 12:36:25 PM
Say what you want about Christie, but he's always been pretty damn straight forward, if not downright blunt. It's obvious that he cares more about the people in his state than he does about any political bullshiat going on and will not politicize this tragedy for anyone.

Does he look like the mayor from "Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs"? Yes, yes he does.
 
2012-10-30 12:36:42 PM

Elandriel: Genevieve Marie: That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.

He's thinking about his own upcoming re-election, I'd guess. NJ is still pretty blue, even with CC in charge, and he needs to lay groundwork to proclaim himself totes reasonable.

Or, maybe he's actually being a governor of a state instead of just a partisan Republican.


No, he vetoes NJ's marriage freedom law. He's no defender of liberty.
 
2012-10-30 12:36:54 PM

Elandriel: Genevieve Marie: That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.

He's thinking about his own upcoming re-election, I'd guess. NJ is still pretty blue, even with CC in charge, and he needs to lay groundwork to proclaim himself totes reasonable.

Or, maybe he's actually being a governor of a state instead of just a partisan Republican.


He's got his eye on 2016.
 
2012-10-30 12:38:38 PM
Three things.

1. Damn, that was awesome. Christie laid down the farking law. That sorely needed to happen.

2. Sucks he'll probably never again be asked to appear on Fox News for it.

3. Can we add Chris Christie to the LOPCATGOPATA?
 
2012-10-30 12:38:43 PM

Otherwise Just Fine: Elandriel: Genevieve Marie: That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.

He's thinking about his own upcoming re-election, I'd guess. NJ is still pretty blue, even with CC in charge, and he needs to lay groundwork to proclaim himself totes reasonable.

Or, maybe he's actually being a governor of a state instead of just a partisan Republican.

He's got his eye on 2016.


And that last french fry on your plate. You gonna finish that?
 
2012-10-30 12:39:06 PM

Genevieve Marie: But on the other hand... he praised the president pretty effusively while discouraging any thoughts of Mitt Romney or the campaign. I wonder if Romney pissed him off behind the scenes, or if he just sees the writing on the wall already.

Christie's done what, three or four interviews today praising the President's personal response? He's even giving little humanizing details, like letting people know the President was on the phone with him at midnight and gave him a personal number so he could get in touch easily with any more requests. That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.


He's the Republican governor of a Democratic state. There's no place you can govern Jersey from other than the center.

Christie has also been smart in keeping his distance from Romney all along; if he doesn't run in 2016 for the Presidency, it will only be because he's had a heart attack.

/he'll have no trouble getting re-elected in Jersey
//If he weren't such a pushy douche, I wouldn't mind seeing him as President
 
2012-10-30 12:39:39 PM
As I have said in other threads, there are things that transcend politics.



Like naivete'
 
2012-10-30 12:40:30 PM
His neighborhood is being destroyed by a giant hurricane. Who gives a rat's ass about politics? Help is needed, and help is appreciated. Any Republican who finds that surprising is a child.
 
2012-10-30 12:40:46 PM
Yeah, bigger things...like Halloween

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2012-10-30 12:40:50 PM

doubled99: As I have said in other threads, there are things that transcend politics.



Like naivete'


Or intellegunce.
 
2012-10-30 12:41:03 PM

bulldg4life: Genevieve Marie: This is really, really fascinating. On the one hand, it was the right thing to do- so maybe that's why he did it and I'm just incurably cynical.

He can't run in 2016 against an incumbent Romney.

a) It helps him for any re-election ideas in NJ
2) An Obama re-election means he can run in 2016 vs 2020
d) He really doesn't want to have to wait 8 years to run for president


This makes a good deal of sense. He knows that he stands a good chance in 2016 if Romney fails in 2012. If Romney wins, he'll have to wait until 2020 and I he knows that he has to strike while his star is still rising.

So, why bother supporting Romney now? I imagine his advisers have already shown him the raw numbers and the likelihood of Obama's re-election. Why not get in good with his voters while palling up with the President for a couple of years?
 
2012-10-30 12:41:07 PM
I think election day is a pretty big effin deal. How is what he said an example of being an adult?
 
2012-10-30 12:41:32 PM
Specifically, he said that in response to Fox's Steve "Douchey" Doocy asking him if he'd like Mitt to come tag along on a disaster photo op.

Good for Christie.
 
2012-10-30 12:42:02 PM

Genevieve Marie: This is really, really fascinating. On the one hand, it was the right thing to do- so maybe that's why he did it and I'm just incurably cynical.

But on the other hand... he praised the president pretty effusively while discouraging any thoughts of Mitt Romney or the campaign. I wonder if Romney pissed him off behind the scenes, or if he just sees the writing on the wall already.

Christie's done what, three or four interviews today praising the President's personal response? He's even giving little humanizing details, like letting people know the President was on the phone with him at midnight and gave him a personal number so he could get in touch easily with any more requests. That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.


Well, if Romney does win the soonest Christie could run for President would be 2020 and he'd be facing a sitting VP that would likely be running for President.

If Romney loses, here's a lot of video for 2016 of Christie being a "people before politics guy" and saying nice things about the outgoing President. Wingnuts aren't going to bag on him about it in the Primaries because Christie can respond with, "That was in the middle of a crisis in which the lives of people in my state were at risk. What in the fark exactly have you been doing with YOUR time the past 10 years Mr. Santorum."

/cynical
 
2012-10-30 12:42:43 PM

Elandriel: Genevieve Marie: That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.

He's thinking about his own upcoming re-election, I'd guess. NJ is still pretty blue, even with CC in charge, and he needs to lay groundwork to proclaim himself totes reasonable.

Or, maybe he's actually being a governor of a state instead of just a partisan Republican.


Sounds like RINO talk to me...
 
2012-10-30 12:42:44 PM

Infernalist: bulldg4life: Genevieve Marie: This is really, really fascinating. On the one hand, it was the right thing to do- so maybe that's why he did it and I'm just incurably cynical.

He can't run in 2016 against an incumbent Romney.

a) It helps him for any re-election ideas in NJ
2) An Obama re-election means he can run in 2016 vs 2020
d) He really doesn't want to have to wait 8 years to run for president

This makes a good deal of sense. He knows that he stands a good chance in 2016 if Romney fails in 2012. If Romney wins, he'll have to wait until 2020 and I he knows that he has to strike while his star is still rising.

So, why bother supporting Romney now? I imagine his advisers have already shown him the raw numbers and the likelihood of Obama's re-election. Why not get in good with his voters while palling up with the President for a couple of years?


Exactly. He wants Obama to win as much as Obama does.
 
2012-10-30 12:42:53 PM

Fista-Phobia: I think election day is a pretty big effin deal. How is what he said an example of being an adult?


Because elections don't matter compared to people being driven from their homes by hurricane winds and flooding.
 
2012-10-30 12:42:59 PM

Infernalist: So, why bother supporting Romney now? I imagine his advisers have already shown him the raw numbers and the likelihood of Obama's re-election. Why not get in good with his voters while palling up with the President for a couple of years?


Because he still has to have some semblance of credibility to get through the GOP primary. He's not going to be able to defeat someone to the right of him (considering his size, well right of him) if he's been palling around with a terrorist for 5 years.
 
2012-10-30 12:43:16 PM

Fista-Phobia: I think election day is a pretty big effin deal. How is what he said an example of being an adult?


Yes, because who is president in three months has a much bigger effect on the people whose lives and livelihood are in danger than the current relief efforts.
 
2012-10-30 12:44:20 PM

Shrugging Atlas: If Romney loses, here's a lot of video for 2016 of Christie being a "people before politics guy" and saying nice things about the outgoing President. Wingnuts aren't going to bag on him about it in the Primaries because Christie can respond with, "That was in the middle of a crisis in which the lives of people in my state were at risk. What in the fark exactly have you been doing with YOUR time the past 10 years Mr. Santorum."

/cynical


On the plus side, anything that reduces Santorum's chances of winning the nomination can only be seen as ends justifying means.
 
2012-10-30 12:44:32 PM
You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.
 
2012-10-30 12:45:05 PM
Oh, he's not concerned about the upcoming Election Day, at any rate.

Now, 2016, on the other hand...

Maybe Christie is seeing how well the whole "Obama ruined everything and everything he does is evil and Communist" approach is working out for the GOP these days.
 
2012-10-30 12:45:54 PM

Genevieve Marie: This is really, really fascinating. On the one hand, it was the right thing to do- so maybe that's why he did it and I'm just incurably cynical.

But on the other hand... he praised the president pretty effusively while discouraging any thoughts of Mitt Romney or the campaign. I wonder if Romney pissed him off behind the scenes, or if he just sees the writing on the wall already.

Christie's done what, three or four interviews today praising the President's personal response? He's even giving little humanizing details, like letting people know the President was on the phone with him at midnight and gave him a personal number so he could get in touch easily with any more requests. That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.


More likely he believes that doing anything that reeks of politics during the immediate aftermath of this disaster will backfire. There will be time for talking shiat about the President later. Right now he wants to show that he's taking the high road.
 
2012-10-30 12:46:02 PM
It looks like he learned since that vacation to Disney when the blizzard was just arriving.


Genevieve Marie: This is really, really fascinating. On the one hand, it was the right thing to do- so maybe that's why he did it and I'm just incurably cynical.

But on the other hand... he praised the president pretty effusively while discouraging any thoughts of Mitt Romney or the campaign. I wonder if Romney pissed him off behind the scenes, or if he just sees the writing on the wall already.

Christie's done what, three or four interviews today praising the President's personal response? He's even giving little humanizing details, like letting people know the President was on the phone with him at midnight and gave him a personal number so he could get in touch easily with any more requests. That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.


It is because he knows MItt has no chance and he will have to worry about Booker next year.
 
2012-10-30 12:46:06 PM

rcantley: On the plus side, anything that reduces Santorum's chances of winning the nomination can only be seen as ends justifying means.


Paul Ryan being VP nominee has effectively killed whatever chance Santorum had of running for President. All the same conservative wingnut pro-life views without the baggage of seeming like a conservative wingnut pro-life cause he knows budget stuff.
 
2012-10-30 12:46:48 PM

bulldg4life: Infernalist: So, why bother supporting Romney now? I imagine his advisers have already shown him the raw numbers and the likelihood of Obama's re-election. Why not get in good with his voters while palling up with the President for a couple of years?

Because he still has to have some semblance of credibility to get through the GOP primary. He's not going to be able to defeat someone to the right of him (considering his size, well right of him) if he's been palling around with a terrorist for 5 years.


He'll be labeled a RINO no matter what, just like Romney. Obviously, he'll have a better chance winning in 2016 than 2020. And hell, maybe after they lose next week, the grownups will finally take back control of the GOP.
 
2012-10-30 12:47:06 PM

bulldg4life: Infernalist: So, why bother supporting Romney now? I imagine his advisers have already shown him the raw numbers and the likelihood of Obama's re-election. Why not get in good with his voters while palling up with the President for a couple of years?

Because he still has to have some semblance of credibility to get through the GOP primary. He's not going to be able to defeat someone to the right of him (considering his size, well right of him) if he's been palling around with a terrorist for 5 years.


Romney is the current candidate for the GOP, not Santorum, Crazy-eyes, or Perry Goodhair.

Romney got savaged in the primaries and here he is, courageously and failing, epic-style.

The GOP is never going to give a wingnut a chance at the big chair.
 
2012-10-30 12:47:39 PM

Bukharin: I didnt mean to leave open a bold tag.


I thought it lent a nice air of gravity.
 
2012-10-30 12:48:58 PM

Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.


Not one single person has hypothesized that Christie is pissed at Romney.
 
2012-10-30 12:49:06 PM

keylock71: Oh, he's not concerned about the upcoming Election Day, at any rate.

Now, 2016, on the other hand....


His keynote address at the RNC that focused almost entirely on himself and didn't mention Romney until 16 minutes into the speech would support this.....
 
2012-10-30 12:49:12 PM
Christie vs Hillary 2016

The writing on the wall, or just "big breakfast" going to my head?
 
2012-10-30 12:49:39 PM

Fista-Phobia: I think election day is a pretty big effin deal. How is what he said an example of being an adult?


If you have to ask, you'll never know.
 
2012-10-30 12:49:49 PM
It's making the freepers go bananas

"0bama excels in areas where the decision is so obvious that even a 5 year old would know what to do.

Otherwise,was Kissie damning 0turd with praise or
is he just a big suck up?

31 posted on Tuesday October 30, 09:34:18 GMT-0400 2012 by Leep"
 
2012-10-30 12:50:34 PM

Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.


Hold a campaign rally in Ohio it would seem.
 
2012-10-30 12:51:33 PM

eddiesocket: Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Not one single person has hypothesized that Christie is pissed at Romney.


Dude read from the beginning of the thread please.
 
2012-10-30 12:52:01 PM

eddiesocket: Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Not one single person has hypothesized that Christie is pissed at Romney.


To be fair, I kind of did in the top post- but I tried to make it clear that's only one thing that occurred to me as a possibility.

I'm still just a little stunned, like I said, at just how effusive Christie's praise of the president was. That went above and beyond bipartisanship in my opinion, and I'm honestly curious on why.

But like I also said in that post- it could be as simple as Christie doing the right thing and giving praise where praise is due. Still took me aback a bit, just because it was so warm.
 
2012-10-30 12:52:18 PM

EdNortonsTwin: Christie vs Hillary 2016

The writing on the wall, or just "big breakfast" going to my head?


She's done. I'll go out on a limb here and predict that she's not running again. I think she realizes that the GOP will simply hate her too much to ever get elected.
 
2012-10-30 12:52:28 PM

Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Hold a campaign rally in Ohio it would seem.


Well he's not the president, so he can do anything he wants.
 
2012-10-30 12:52:43 PM
Sure, maybe he has cynical motives, but basically all politicians do. Doing the right thing for the wrong reasons is still, at the very least, the right thing. This will take some wind out of Romney's "cut every domestic program we have and spend more on world policing" stance, so I can't fault him.

/Good luck NJ
 
2012-10-30 12:53:51 PM

Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Fista-Phobia: I think election day is a pretty big effin deal. How is what he said an example of being an adult?

If you have to ask, you'll never know.


Or potentially not vote. But hey, bravado is comforting.
 
2012-10-30 12:54:07 PM

Vindibudd: Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Hold a campaign rally in Ohio it would seem.

Well he's not the president, so he can do anything he wants.


Exactly. And while the dead are still being pulled from the rubble why not have a party!
 
2012-10-30 12:56:50 PM
He's promised to reschedule Halloween, but he's being pretty vague on whether he'll ensure that New Jersey citizens have the opportunity to vote.
 
2012-10-30 12:57:15 PM

Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Hold a campaign rally in Ohio it would seem.

Well he's not the president, so he can do anything he wants.

Exactly. And while the dead are still being pulled from the rubble why not have a party!


Kind of like Obama going to Vegas while they're pulling a dead ambassador out of Benghazi, amirite?
 
2012-10-30 12:57:18 PM

Vindibudd: Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Hold a campaign rally in Ohio it would seem.

Well he's not the president, so he can do anything he wants.


They outright said that Romney was looking to 'tour the damage' with Christie. A photo-op in other words. And Christie outright say 'NO' in no uncertain terms.

This is Christie not just bailing on supporting Romney, but outright refusing...PUBLICLY, to give him even the slightest bit of positive PR.

It's either personal animosity, or a ruthlessly cynical approach to the 2012 election, or a paradigm shift in terms of how he views the President due to the enthusiastic Federal aid and support.
 
2012-10-30 12:59:56 PM

Vindibudd: eddiesocket: Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Not one single person has hypothesized that Christie is pissed at Romney.

Dude read from the beginning of the thread please.


You're right, I'm sorry. One person (who apparently to you represents all "FarkProgs") speculated that as one possibility. You're still a tremendous idiot.
 
2012-10-30 01:00:46 PM

Vindibudd: Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Hold a campaign rally in Ohio it would seem.

Well he's not the president, so he can do anything he wants.

Exactly. And while the dead are still being pulled from the rubble why not have a party!

Kind of like Obama going to Vegas while they're pulling a dead ambassador out of Benghazi, amirite?


He's the president, he can do whatever he wants.

See? Being a disingenious weasel works both ways! Amirite? Besides, Vindi you've never come here for an honest debate. You just throw your monkey crap and leave.

So what's keeping you?
 
2012-10-30 01:02:18 PM
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2012-10-30 01:04:09 PM

Wendolyn the Wired: He's promised to reschedule Halloween, but he's being pretty vague on whether he'll ensure that New Jersey citizens have the opportunity to vote.



In all fairness to Christie, Halloween is a whole lot easier to reschedule. The logistics on an election are a whole lot more complicated than just announcing "Hey, we should give out candy on Friday instead of Wednesday."

FEMA's working on plans for alternate polling places and other provisions as we speak. I imagine they'll announce how they plan to handle it over the next few days.
 
2012-10-30 01:04:46 PM
She's done. I'll go out on a limb here and predict that she's not running again. I think she realizes that the GOP will simply hate her too much to ever get elected.

I disagree. If Obama wins, she'll resign and do the speaking tour thing and brush up her domestic chops, getting rested for 2016. I think Bill and Obama really don't like each other and only the reason Bill is trying to get him re-elected so hard is because he knows the economy is going to improve over the next 4 years and whoever is in the Oval Office will get credit. If it's Romney, he'll get re-elected. If it's Obama, it makes the Dems look good and Hillary's message will be "you want four more years? Here I am!"
 
2012-10-30 01:06:29 PM

Genevieve Marie: Wendolyn the Wired: He's promised to reschedule Halloween, but he's being pretty vague on whether he'll ensure that New Jersey citizens have the opportunity to vote.


In all fairness to Christie, Halloween is a whole lot easier to reschedule. The logistics on an election are a whole lot more complicated than just announcing "Hey, we should give out candy on Friday instead of Wednesday."

FEMA's working on plans for alternate polling places and other provisions as we speak. I imagine they'll announce how they plan to handle it over the next few days.


I'm glad to hear that...thanks!
 
2012-10-30 01:07:35 PM

Infernalist: Vindibudd: Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Hold a campaign rally in Ohio it would seem.

Well he's not the president, so he can do anything he wants.

They outright said that Romney was looking to 'tour the damage' with Christie. A photo-op in other words. And Christie outright say 'NO' in no uncertain terms.

This is Christie not just bailing on supporting Romney, but outright refusing...PUBLICLY, to give him even the slightest bit of positive PR.

It's either personal animosity, or a ruthlessly cynical approach to the 2012 election, or a paradigm shift in terms of how he views the President due to the enthusiastic Federal aid and support.


Or it could be that having Romney along would be a major pain in the ass security wise and would just get in the way.

Same with Obama, wherever he goes, he creates a security headache, it's better to direct from afar.
 
2012-10-30 01:07:52 PM
Is it possible that Christie is just a regular guy?
He says whats on his mind, doesn't sugarcoat things, occasionally just says something dumb, but recognizes good work when he sees it?

I want to believe!
 
2012-10-30 01:08:08 PM
Meanwhile...

Romney campaign now playing their campaign video from the RNC at their charity concert in Ohio for Sandy victims.
- @ChrisLaibleFN

Christie is a class act. Who knew?

Romney is an utter scumbag. We all knew.
 
2012-10-30 01:08:57 PM

The Decider: I disagree. If Obama wins, she'll resign and do the speaking tour thing and brush up her domestic chops, getting rested for 2016. I think Bill and Obama really don't like each other and only the reason Bill is trying to get him re-elected so hard is because he knows the economy is going to improve over the next 4 years and whoever is in the Oval Office will get credit. If it's Romney, he'll get re-elected. If it's Obama, it makes the Dems look good and Hillary's message will be "you want four more years? Here I am!"


I don't understand the idea that Clinton would get the nomination over Biden. If Biden wants it, how is it not his to lose?
 
2012-10-30 01:10:48 PM
Fox News co-host Steve Doocy wondered when Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney was going to get some of the same benefits from the hurricane with a photo op in disaster-stricken New Jersey towns.

"Over the last couple of months, you have appeared throughout the country, Governor, on behalf of Mitt Romney," Doocy remarked to Christie. "[W]e hear that perhaps Mr. Romney may do some storm-related events. Is there any possibility that Gov. Romney may go to New Jersey to tour some of the damage with you?"


"Hey, when can Romney exploit this disaster?". Way to worry about the things that matter, Steve, you ridiculous douchebag.
 
2012-10-30 01:11:14 PM

cman: Genevieve Marie: This is really, really fascinating. On the one hand, it was the right thing to do- so maybe that's why he did it and I'm just incurably cynical.

But on the other hand... he praised the president pretty effusively while discouraging any thoughts of Mitt Romney or the campaign. I wonder if Romney pissed him off behind the scenes, or if he just sees the writing on the wall already.

Christie's done what, three or four interviews today praising the President's personal response? He's even giving little humanizing details, like letting people know the President was on the phone with him at midnight and gave him a personal number so he could get in touch easily with any more requests. That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.

As I have said in other threads, there are things that transcend politics.

9/11, for instance, put many people who were solidly against Bush in Bushes corner. When shiat hits the fan we come together and we drop the Democrat/Republican/Communist/Reptilian moniker and remember that we are all American.


I agree with that statement, but want to tweak it a smudge. I think in most natural disaster related situations, people drop the hate (at least briefly) and remember that they are all human beings, regardless of race, religion, political views, and help each other. They don't look to blame, or take credit, they are all in together.

The majority of the time, anyway. I'm sure some of you jaded farkers will mock that comment, but that's fine. Most of the time I don't read the comments after I post, so I don't get annoyed with the trolls
 
2012-10-30 01:11:43 PM

rcantley: The Decider: I disagree. If Obama wins, she'll resign and do the speaking tour thing and brush up her domestic chops, getting rested for 2016. I think Bill and Obama really don't like each other and only the reason Bill is trying to get him re-elected so hard is because he knows the economy is going to improve over the next 4 years and whoever is in the Oval Office will get credit. If it's Romney, he'll get re-elected. If it's Obama, it makes the Dems look good and Hillary's message will be "you want four more years? Here I am!"

I don't understand the idea that Clinton would get the nomination over Biden. If Biden wants it, how is it not his to lose?


Biden is a corporate whore, I might actually vote republican just to keep him out of office.

/Voting Johnson because I don't live in a swing state.
//Electoral College disenfranchises voters.
 
2012-10-30 01:11:58 PM
Christie might be the first and only "Republican" I would vote for, if he ran in 2016.

/GOBAMA
 
2012-10-30 01:12:54 PM

rcantley: I don't understand the idea that Clinton would get the nomination over Biden. If Biden wants it, how is it not his to lose?


He's getting old. He'll be 73 in 2016.
 
2012-10-30 01:14:04 PM
I don't understand the idea that Clinton would get the nomination over Biden. If Biden wants it, how is it not his to lose?

I keep hearing that he didn't even want the VP job, he wanted Hillary's job. I've just never heard anyone talk of Biden's desire to be Prez, maybe he will.
 
2012-10-30 01:14:44 PM
For the love of God, can't some of you just appreciate when people put their bullshiat differences aside and work towards a greater good? Even our worst politicians still have something not election related they are loyal to. Stop making the world out to be worst than it is. Not everything is a political conspiracy. Obama and FEMA deserve praise for their quick response, and Christie deserves praise for saying so, despite the fact they were calling for him to run against Obama no less than a year ago.
 
2012-10-30 01:15:13 PM

JokerMattly: Is it possible that Christie is just a regular guy?
He says whats on his mind, doesn't sugarcoat things, occasionally just says something dumb, but recognizes good work when he sees it?

I want to believe!


God, can you imagine a Biden/Christie ticket? Would never happen for obvious reasons, but...the very concept makes my head hurt.
 
2012-10-30 01:17:30 PM
Not Christie's first foray into being level headed and shouting down the derp.

Link

and it was absolutely PRICELESS watching those three turds sit there and have to listen to another Republican praise the President. You could almost hear their collective wincing.
 
2012-10-30 01:19:21 PM
Glad to see Christie tell the GOP "Back off, crisis time now, politics later."
 
2012-10-30 01:19:26 PM

dragonfire77: Christie is more concerned about getting re-elected than helping Romney. Know how the GOP is always pushing the idea that every person is an island, and you're all on your own? It applies to their own, as well.


"more concerned about getting re-elected" ?

What are you talking about???

New Jersey loves Chris Christie. His reelection is inevitable.
 
2012-10-30 01:19:45 PM
Good for Christie; the guy's a bit of a yammering douchebag, but when the shiat hit the fan, he did what he should have done. Screw the election - my shiat's all farked up over here, get outta my face about that crap, I've got real work to do. A good Jersey attitude.

As to the whole Obama thing, he's just being honest and appreciative; I don't care if you hate the crap out of your next door neighbor - if your house is on fire and he wakes you up, carries your invalid wife out of the burning building and wraps you in comfy blankets, he's suddenly a prince in your eyes.

At least for a week or two.

Politics is a luxury of the idle; surprisingly, thanks, fatso, for having your priorities straight.
 
2012-10-30 01:22:07 PM

Elandriel: Genevieve Marie: That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.

He's thinking about his own upcoming re-election, I'd guess. NJ is still pretty blue, even with CC in charge, and he needs to lay groundwork to proclaim himself totes reasonable.

Or, maybe he's actually being a governor of a state instead of just a partisan Republican.


I'm kind of thinking the latter. His comment about "I don't give a damn about the election right now" was kind of a tip off.
 
2012-10-30 01:22:15 PM
Chris Christie: "I don't give a damn about Election Day. It doesn't matter a lick, bite, chew to me at the moment. I've got bigger fish, eggs, bacon teachers to fry"

FTFY
 
2012-10-30 01:22:25 PM

keylock71: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 299x251]


FATMAN!
 
2012-10-30 01:23:32 PM

FitzShivering: For the love of God, can't some of you just appreciate when people put their bullshiat differences aside and work towards a greater good? Even our worst politicians still have something not election related they are loyal to. Stop making the world out to be worst than it is. Not everything is a political conspiracy. Obama and FEMA deserve praise for their quick response, and Christie deserves praise for saying so, despite the fact they were calling for him to run against Obama no less than a year ago.


Also, there is nothing RMoney can do related to relief efforts that doesn't look like pandering; the nature of the beast. The President has a mission to work with FEMA, help the states affected, etc. I'm not a RMoney supporter, but all he can do here is show concern for those affected and continue to run for President.

After the emergency situations are over, then maybe, but that will probably be after the election.

I'd guess Christie is operating on little sleep and just said what was on his mind. It's the most likely possibility. He doesn't deserve anything for it, but it reveals his character as he is under duress.

/I like it
 
2012-10-30 01:23:42 PM

Fista-Phobia: I think election day is a pretty big effin deal. How is what he said an example of being an adult?


People are in serious risk of dying. Entire homes have been lost. The election is important but not as important as mortal danger. The election means some people's taxes might go up or down a couple percentage points. When you're staring at an empty lot where your house used to be that seems rather a quaint thing to concern yourself with.
 
2012-10-30 01:24:36 PM
Christie has been awesome, as have Bloomberg and Andrew Cuomo, but New Jersey was hit the hardest and you can tell how much Christie cares about his state in his anger at the mayor of Atlantic City who convinced residents that they didn't need to evacuate.
 
2012-10-30 01:24:43 PM
He already knows who won.
 
2012-10-30 01:25:41 PM

Gyrfalcon: Elandriel: Genevieve Marie:

Or, maybe he's actually being a governor of a state instead of just a partisan Republican.

I'm kind of thinking the latter. His comment about "I don't give a damn about the election right now" was kind of a tip off.


I think it's pretty clear that you don't have any concept of what he's doing to manage the cleanup efforts. He's not going to get any sleep for days as he keeps on top of this and when he said that the election wasn't a priority of his right now he damn well meant it. He's one of the busiest guys in the state right now.
 
2012-10-30 01:26:14 PM

Wendolyn the Wired: He's promised to reschedule Halloween, but he's being pretty vague on whether he'll ensure that New Jersey citizens have the opportunity to vote.


Halloween is tomorrow. Voting is a week from Thursday.

CALENDARS, HOW THE fark DO THEY WORK?
 
2012-10-30 01:27:16 PM
I've asked several conservatives I know what they think on this matter. They responded, almost in unison with, "NOBODY'S REPORTING ON BENGHAZI!!!"

/sigh
 
2012-10-30 01:29:19 PM

Yanks_RSJ: Christie has been awesome, as have Bloomberg and Andrew Cuomo, but New Jersey was hit the hardest and you can tell how much Christie cares about his state in his anger at the mayor of Atlantic City who convinced residents that they didn't need to evacuate.


The mayor of Atlantic City came out today and said that wasn't the case at all. Not sure what exactly happened, but it sounded like there's a fair chance Christie rushed to blame there.

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/49607416/ 
 
And I found this from a few weeks ago. Looks like there are a lot of political tensions between the two of them: http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/communities/atlantic-city_pleasant v ille_brigantine/atlantic-city-mayor-lorenzo-langford-responds-to-gover nor-chris-christie/article_37555ae6-194e-11e2-a9ef-001a4bcf887a.html
 
2012-10-30 01:34:03 PM

Genevieve Marie: And I found this from a few weeks ago. Looks like there are a lot of political tensions between the two of them: http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/communities/atlantic-city_pleasant v ille_brigantine/atlantic-city-mayor-lorenzo-langford-responds-to-gover nor-chris-christie/article_37555ae6-194e-11e2-a9ef-001a4bcf887a.html


Perhaps that's why this Langford fellow chose to risk people's lives. But in the end it's like stink-palming. Sure he got to defy the governor, but by doing so people died. Seems a short-sighted victory for someone who can be voted out of office...
 
2012-10-30 01:35:05 PM

rcantley: The Decider: I disagree. If Obama wins, she'll resign and do the speaking tour thing and brush up her domestic chops, getting rested for 2016. I think Bill and Obama really don't like each other and only the reason Bill is trying to get him re-elected so hard is because he knows the economy is going to improve over the next 4 years and whoever is in the Oval Office will get credit. If it's Romney, he'll get re-elected. If it's Obama, it makes the Dems look good and Hillary's message will be "you want four more years? Here I am!"

I don't understand the idea that Clinton would get the nomination over Biden. If Biden wants it, how is it not his to lose?


He'll be 74 years old.
 
2012-10-30 01:39:14 PM

Leeds: Genevieve Marie: And I found this from a few weeks ago. Looks like there are a lot of political tensions between the two of them: http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/communities/atlantic-city_pleasant v ille_brigantine/atlantic-city-mayor-lorenzo-langford-responds-to-gover nor-chris-christie/article_37555ae6-194e-11e2-a9ef-001a4bcf887a.html

Perhaps that's why this Langford fellow chose to risk people's lives. But in the end it's like stink-palming. Sure he got to defy the governor, but by doing so people died. Seems a short-sighted victory for someone who can be voted out of office...



He claims he didn't defy the governor at all, that he mandated evacuations as well,  but did set up a shelter of last resort for any pigheaded folks that stuck around against advice.

I don't know how true that is, but it does sound like there's blame shifting going on between both of  them, and that their dispute is more about disliking each other than it is about what happened here.
 
2012-10-30 01:41:26 PM

brandent: rcantley: The Decider: I disagree. If Obama wins, she'll resign and do the speaking tour thing and brush up her domestic chops, getting rested for 2016. I think Bill and Obama really don't like each other and only the reason Bill is trying to get him re-elected so hard is because he knows the economy is going to improve over the next 4 years and whoever is in the Oval Office will get credit. If it's Romney, he'll get re-elected. If it's Obama, it makes the Dems look good and Hillary's message will be "you want four more years? Here I am!"

I don't understand the idea that Clinton would get the nomination over Biden. If Biden wants it, how is it not his to lose?

He'll be 74 years old.


Biden doesn't really seem to GAF. Maybe I'm missing something, but has he really expressed that much wish to want to run? Seems like they pulled him in to the VP spot to back the youngin' in 2008, and now he's there to finish what he started, but he seems like he's ready to pack it in once his service is up. Again, maybe he's said something that I didn't see.
 
2012-10-30 01:42:02 PM
You're forgetting one thing - if Romney loses in November, the GOP won't be looking for a moderate to put up in 2016. They'll be looking for the most Conservative Conservative that ever Conservatived*. Mr. Christie has the "I hate gay people" but that's about it.

* I am using Conservative in the 2012 sense - a purveyor of derp - not the classic sense, which I would welcome with open arms.
 
2012-10-30 01:42:10 PM

Genevieve Marie: Elandriel: Or, maybe he's actually being a governor of a state instead of just a partisan Republican.

You know, I'd chalk it up to that too if the praise wasn't so effusive. He very easily could have said something more along the lines of "President Obama and Fema have been very helpful and we appreciate their efforts" and that would still have been the right thing to do.
 
But I mean... he gave all kinds of detail on how the President went above and beyond, mentioning late night calls so the President could personally help expedite the disaster area declaration and also talking about how the President made sure he had a personal number to reach him in case he has any other needs.

That's... above and beyond normal praise. Nice to hear, for sure. But I still wonder if maybe there's something else going on there. Maybe Romney irked him this week, or maybe like you said, he's looking out for his own reelection prospects. Or who knows, maybe he's just being a decent guy and telling the truth?

Whole thing is weird though and I'm not quite sure what to make of it.


Sounds like he has a bit of a crush on the President.
 
2012-10-30 01:43:10 PM

brandent: He'll be 74 years old.


Reagan was 73 when elected to his second term.

Oh and on the Christie front, I loved his news conference last night when he basically said if you didn't evacuate when we asked you too you are screwed until day break good luck morons.
 
2012-10-30 01:45:29 PM

Genevieve Marie: Leeds: Genevieve Marie: And I found this from a few weeks ago. Looks like there are a lot of political tensions between the two of them: http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/communities/atlantic-city_pleasant v ille_brigantine/atlantic-city-mayor-lorenzo-langford-responds-to-gover nor-chris-christie/article_37555ae6-194e-11e2-a9ef-001a4bcf887a.html

Perhaps that's why this Langford fellow chose to risk people's lives. But in the end it's like stink-palming. Sure he got to defy the governor, but by doing so people died. Seems a short-sighted victory for someone who can be voted out of office...


He claims he didn't defy the governor at all, that he mandated evacuations as well,  but did set up a shelter of last resort for any pigheaded folks that stuck around against advice.

I don't know how true that is, but it does sound like there's blame shifting going on between both of  them, and that their dispute is more about disliking each other than it is about what happened here.


I read first thing this morning that the shelter flooded and had to be evacuated mid-storm. That put people in harms way more than anything else.

The mayor pulled a Ray Nagin.
 
2012-10-30 01:46:45 PM

you have pee hands: rcantley: I don't understand the idea that Clinton would get the nomination over Biden. If Biden wants it, how is it not his to lose?

He's getting old. He'll be 73 in 2016.


Both Hillary and Biden are too old, in my opinion. Hillary would be just a few months younger than Reagan in Jan 1981 if she were to win in 2016 (69). Biden would be ridiculously old. He also has a reputation even among many Dems as being a loose canon and a kind of dim. I can't see him winning the nomination.
 
2012-10-30 01:51:17 PM

joonyer: Vindibudd: Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Hold a campaign rally in Ohio it would seem.

Well he's not the president, so he can do anything he wants.

Exactly. And while the dead are still being pulled from the rubble why not have a party!

Kind of like Obama going to Vegas while they're pulling a dead ambassador out of Benghazi, amirite?

He's the president, he can do whatever he wants.

See? Being a disingenious weasel works both ways! Amirite? Besides, Vindi you've never come here for an honest debate. You just throw your monkey crap and leave.

So what's keeping you?


Wrong, I come here, make a point and instead of engaging in an actual debate the instantaneous response is that I must be a troll for daring to have an opinion different from this august body of FarkProgs®.

And actually, the president has responsibilities to do his job. A presidential candidate just runs for office. Are you not able to see the difference?
 
2012-10-30 01:51:50 PM

Tom_Slick: brandent: He'll be 74 years old.

Reagan was 73 when elected to his second term.

Oh and on the Christie front, I loved his news conference last night when he basically said if you didn't evacuate when we asked you too you are screwed until day break good luck morons.


Reagan also spent most of his second term going senile and making just about everybody nervous. And Biden is a year older than that even.
 
2012-10-30 01:52:32 PM

that bosnian sniper: 3. Can we add Chris Christie to the LOPCATGOPATA?


What...
 
2012-10-30 01:52:37 PM
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2012-10-30 01:43:10 PM


brandent: He'll be 74 years old.

Reagan was 73 when elected to his second term.

Oh and on the Christie front, I loved his news conference last night when he basically said if you didn't evacuate when we asked you too you are screwed until day break good luck morons.




So people born with low intelligence deserve death and destruction because of their disability?
You inhuman monster!!! Must be a Republican!
 
2012-10-30 01:53:20 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Fox News co-host Steve Doocy wondered when Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney was going to get some of the same benefits from the hurricane with a photo op in disaster-stricken New Jersey towns.

"Over the last couple of months, you have appeared throughout the country, Governor, on behalf of Mitt Romney," Doocy remarked to Christie. "[W]e hear that perhaps Mr. Romney may do some storm-related events. Is there any possibility that Gov. Romney may go to New Jersey to tour some of the damage with you?"


"Hey, when can Romney exploit this disaster?". Way to worry about the things that matter, Steve, you ridiculous douchebag.


seriously what a partisan question... hey people are struggling when can Romney get a photo op?

he gave the right answer, fark you i got more important things to do...
 
2012-10-30 01:55:59 PM
NJ should make a constitutional amendment demanding that a tuba ensemble follows Christie whenever he walks until he weighs 200 pounds.

familyguycutaways.com
 
2012-10-30 01:57:16 PM

The Decider: She's done. I'll go out on a limb here and predict that she's not running again. I think she realizes that the GOP will simply hate her too much to ever get elected.

I disagree. If Obama wins, she'll resign and do the speaking tour thing and brush up her domestic chops, getting rested for 2016. I think Bill and Obama really don't like each other and only the reason Bill is trying to get him re-elected so hard is because he knows the economy is going to improve over the next 4 years and whoever is in the Oval Office will get credit. If it's Romney, he'll get re-elected. If it's Obama, it makes the Dems look good and Hillary's message will be "you want four more years? Here I am!"


There is no doubt that's the playbook.
 
kab
2012-10-30 01:57:35 PM

cman: 9/11, for instance, put many people who were solidly against Bush in Bushes corner. When shiat hits the fan we come together and we drop the Democrat/Republican/Communist/Reptilian moniker and remember that we are all American.


So what you're saying is that we're going to start bombing Ireland in a few days?
 
2012-10-30 01:58:53 PM
Tom_Slick:
"Oh and on the Christie front, I loved his news conference last night when he basically said if you didn't evacuate when we asked you too you are screwed until day break good luck morons."



Yeah, I kind of liked this guy.
 
2012-10-30 02:01:06 PM

Vindibudd: Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: Shrugging Atlas: Vindibudd: You FarkProgs® slay me, just because Christie says something nice about the president doesn't mean he's pissed at Romney, what's Romney going to do anyway? He's not in charge of anything at all. This is called bipartisanship btw.

Hold a campaign rally in Ohio it would seem.

Well he's not the president, so he can do anything he wants.

Exactly. And while the dead are still being pulled from the rubble why not have a party!

Kind of like Obama going to Vegas while they're pulling a dead ambassador out of Benghazi, amirite?


Benghazi!

Drink
 
2012-10-30 02:02:14 PM

that bosnian sniper: Can we add Chris Christie to the LOPCATGOPATA?


Survey says... Yes!
 
2012-10-30 02:02:31 PM

Dwight_Yeast: //If he weren't such a pushy douche, I wouldn't mind seeing him as President


Maybe what this country needs right now is a pushy douche?
 
2012-10-30 02:05:30 PM
Fat? I wouldn't exactly call the brother fat. He's big-boned I get that. He's from New Jersey isn't he? That's the same gene pool as King Kong Bundy and Tony Soprano. He can't help it.
 
2012-10-30 02:13:03 PM
Someone mentioned the Freeper response. A few selections:

"'Credit' would have been fine for Christie to say..."great credit" was way over the line."

"How about "Bozo of the Year"? Helping us lose two in the bag Senate races and now promoting O. What is he thinking? Surely not 2016. That's laughable."

"His demeanor in Fox & Friends this AM was troubling. Christie was absolutely pissed when they asked if Romney might come tour the damage but then waxed poetic about how wonderful Obama had been, and how he'd called him three times yesterday. If this narrative of Obama = great leader in tough times continues (and you better believe Romney will now either be silenced or ignored or painted as insincere), it could very well affect this election. Thanks, Chris!"

And let's not forget the hurricane denier:
"What storm? It's bad enough the press overhyped Sandy, let's not do it here. I mean, this hurricane fizzled. There is no disaster."
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2012-10-30 02:13:34 PM
sportreview.net.nz
 
2012-10-30 02:52:57 PM

Elandriel: Genevieve Marie: That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.

He's thinking about his own upcoming re-election, I'd guess. NJ is still pretty blue, even with CC in charge, and he needs to lay groundwork to proclaim himself totes reasonable.

Or, maybe he's actually being a governor of a state instead of just a partisan Republican.


I hope it is the latter myself. Christie seems like one of those guys where even if you don't like all his policies, he's still a statesman so you don't need to panic when he runs the show. You know the kind of guy where you're not thrilled he won, but he seems functional enough.
 
2012-10-30 02:57:06 PM

Sandbox Leprechaun: Someone mentioned the Freeper response. A few selections:

"'Credit' would have been fine for Christie to say..."great credit" was way over the line."

"How about "Bozo of the Year"? Helping us lose two in the bag Senate races and now promoting O. What is he thinking? Surely not 2016. That's laughable."

"His demeanor in Fox & Friends this AM was troubling. Christie was absolutely pissed when they asked if Romney might come tour the damage but then waxed poetic about how wonderful Obama had been, and how he'd called him three times yesterday. If this narrative of Obama = great leader in tough times continues (and you better believe Romney will now either be silenced or ignored or painted as insincere), it could very well affect this election. Thanks, Chris!"

And let's not forget the hurricane denier:
"What storm? It's bad enough the press overhyped Sandy, let's not do it here. I mean, this hurricane fizzled. There is no disaster."


Too...much...crazy
 
2012-10-30 03:03:49 PM

Shrugging Atlas: And let's not forget the hurricane denier:
"What storm? It's bad enough the press overhyped Sandy, let's not do it here. I mean, this hurricane fizzled. There is no disaster."

Too...much...crazy



Lindsay Lohan has been posting over there?
 
2012-10-30 03:20:38 PM

ha-ha-guy: I hope it is the latter myself. Christie seems like one of those guys where even if you don't like all his policies, he's still a statesman so you don't need to panic when he runs the show. You know the kind of guy where you're not thrilled he won, but he seems functional enough


This, pretty much. I don't agree with his politics, but he appears to be an effective leader. I think Christie is trying to repair the State of New Jersey as quickly as possible because he's the governor of New Jersey. No one should be playing politics.
 
2012-10-30 03:33:48 PM

Shrugging Atlas: Too...much...crazy


I said it earlier in the thread, and I'll say it again.

I think it's time we added Chris Christie to the LOPCATGOPATA.
 
2012-10-30 04:05:56 PM
Because he likes the number 2016 more than the number 2020?
 
2012-10-30 04:14:54 PM

Hillbilly Jim: that bosnian sniper: 3. Can we add Chris Christie to the LOPCATGOPATA?

What...


Link
 
2012-10-30 04:16:37 PM

Vindibudd:
Wrong, I come here, make a point and instead of engaging in an actual debate the instantaneous response is that I must be a troll for daring to have an opinion different from this august body of FarkProgs®.

And actually, the president has responsibilities to do his job. A presidential candidate just runs for office. Are you not able to see the difference?


Ahh yes, that critical point you had to make was that because Christie made a positive remark about the President, he may not be angry with Romney.

Thank you for that, really.

Just a side note here: You get called a troll because your "points" are usually pointless and you're obviously just trying to piss people off. You rarely say anything of substance. Kind of like that awful comic. Hope you didn't quit your day job for that. Wow.
 
2012-10-30 04:32:29 PM

joonyer: Just a side note here: You get called a troll because your "points" are usually pointless and you're obviously just trying to piss people off. You rarely say anything of substance. Kind of like that awful comic. Hope you didn't quit your day job for that. Wow.


My points are generally in response to an opinion made by the typical FarkProg® (Fark Progressive). They are generally responded to with 1. BUSH EVIL 2. TROLL 3. OMG YOUR COMICS ARE AWFUL.

None of these address the issue at hand and two of them immediately veer in to ad hominem.

An example of this would be:

joonyer: Kind of like that awful comic. Hope you didn't quit your day job for that. Wow.

 
2012-10-30 04:48:33 PM

Vindibudd: joonyer: Just a side note here: You get called a troll because your "points" are usually pointless and you're obviously just trying to piss people off. You rarely say anything of substance. Kind of like that awful comic. Hope you didn't quit your day job for that. Wow.

My points are generally in response to an opinion made by the typical FarkProg® (Fark Progressive). They are generally responded to with 1. BUSH EVIL 2. TROLL 3. OMG YOUR COMICS ARE AWFUL.


AGAIN, this is because your "points" are not points at all. Even in the face of derp, you need to present something logical, something factual or at least debatable. What you do is spit vitriol, and then you run away. But by all means, keep blaming those darn FarkProgs, they're the real problem, right?
 
2012-10-30 05:08:53 PM
Good on you, Gov.
 
2012-10-30 05:22:39 PM

joonyer: Vindibudd: joonyer: Just a side note here: You get called a troll because your "points" are usually pointless and you're obviously just trying to piss people off. You rarely say anything of substance. Kind of like that awful comic. Hope you didn't quit your day job for that. Wow.

My points are generally in response to an opinion made by the typical FarkProg® (Fark Progressive). They are generally responded to with 1. BUSH EVIL 2. TROLL 3. OMG YOUR COMICS ARE AWFUL.

AGAIN, this is because your "points" are not points at all. Even in the face of derp, you need to present something logical, something factual or at least debatable. What you do is spit vitriol, and then you run away. But by all means, keep blaming those darn FarkProgs, they're the real problem, right?


Usage of the term "derp" is not instructive to advancing an argument. Rather than continually relying on Farker shorthand as a perceived stepping stone to intellectual superiority from with which to rain down your breathtakingly empty rhetoric, in future attempts to launch coherent salvos of well-reasoned expostulation, attempt to utilize actual English.

Also, feel free to define vitriol with pertinent excerpts. And I will not apologize for leaving Fark threads to participate in various activities of actual living. After all, it's generally myself engaging 30 of you. I'd be on here 24/7 if I were to respond to everyone who is desperate to hurl such awe-inspiring, debate winning, vocabulary defining, all-star terms like "derp."
 
2012-10-30 05:27:21 PM

Vindibudd: joonyer: Vindibudd: joonyer: Just a side note here: You get called a troll because your "points" are usually pointless and you're obviously just trying to piss people off. You rarely say anything of substance. Kind of like that awful comic. Hope you didn't quit your day job for that. Wow.

My points are generally in response to an opinion made by the typical FarkProg® (Fark Progressive). They are generally responded to with 1. BUSH EVIL 2. TROLL 3. OMG YOUR COMICS ARE AWFUL.

AGAIN, this is because your "points" are not points at all. Even in the face of derp, you need to present something logical, something factual or at least debatable. What you do is spit vitriol, and then you run away. But by all means, keep blaming those darn FarkProgs, they're the real problem, right?

Usage of the term "derp" is not instructive to advancing an argument. Rather than continually relying on Farker shorthand as a perceived stepping stone to intellectual superiority from with which to rain down your breathtakingly empty rhetoric, in future attempts to launch coherent salvos of well-reasoned expostulation, attempt to utilize actual English.

Also, feel free to define vitriol with pertinent excerpts. And I will not apologize for leaving Fark threads to participate in various activities of actual living. After all, it's generally myself engaging 30 of you. I'd be on here 24/7 if I were to respond to everyone who is desperate to hurl such awe-inspiring, debate winning, vocabulary defining, all-star terms like "derp."


DERP derp derp.

/Sorry, couldn't help myself.
 
 
2012-10-30 05:30:57 PM

Genevieve Marie:

DERP derp derp.

/Sorry, couldn't help myself.


That's why I like you.
 
2012-10-30 05:35:04 PM
If I had more  time, I'd come up with a fun parody of the World According to Garp.

/She named her son "Derp", after his father.
 
2012-10-30 05:41:19 PM

Vindibudd: joonyer: Vindibudd: joonyer: Just a side note here: You get called a troll because your "points" are usually pointless and you're obviously just trying to piss people off. You rarely say anything of substance. Kind of like that awful comic. Hope you didn't quit your day job for that. Wow.

My points are generally in response to an opinion made by the typical FarkProg® (Fark Progressive). They are generally responded to with 1. BUSH EVIL 2. TROLL 3. OMG YOUR COMICS ARE AWFUL.

AGAIN, this is because your "points" are not points at all. Even in the face of derp, you need to present something logical, something factual or at least debatable. What you do is spit vitriol, and then you run away. But by all means, keep blaming those darn FarkProgs, they're the real problem, right?

Usage of the term "derp" is not instructive to advancing an argument. Rather than continually relying on Farker shorthand as a perceived stepping stone to intellectual superiority from with which to rain down your breathtakingly empty rhetoric, in future attempts to launch coherent salvos of well-reasoned expostulation, attempt to utilize actual English.

Also, feel free to define vitriol with pertinent excerpts. And I will not apologize for leaving Fark threads to participate in various activities of actual living. After all, it's generally myself engaging 30 of you. I'd be on here 24/7 if I were to respond to everyone who is desperate to hurl such awe-inspiring, debate winning, vocabulary defining, all-star terms like "derp."


I'd be glad to have a rational debate, just bring your rationality next time, kiddo.
 
2012-10-30 06:02:06 PM

joonyer:
I'd be glad to have a rational debate, just bring your rationality next time, kiddo.


Again relying on the condescension. You just know so much that isn't so.
 
2012-10-30 06:17:48 PM

Vindibudd: joonyer:
I'd be glad to have a rational debate, just bring your rationality next time, kiddo.

Again relying on the condescension. You just know so much that isn't so.


LOL, good effort trying to take the high road, but condescension is your MO. That's a big reason why you get met with hostility. The other reason is that your arguments generally get blown out of the water.

If you feel oppressed, it must be my fault. Not yours.
 
2012-10-30 06:19:41 PM
Heard this on the radio. Way to keep your priorities straight, man. When prodded about elections and presidential candidates (specifically, if he thinks Romney will tour impacted areas) he sounded agitated and gave a genuine response that he didn't give a fark and needed to focus on the destruction in the state. Way to go, dude.
 
2012-10-30 06:25:13 PM

joonyer: Vindibudd: joonyer:
I'd be glad to have a rational debate, just bring your rationality next time, kiddo.

Again relying on the condescension. You just know so much that isn't so.

LOL, good effort trying to take the high road, but condescension is your MO. That's a big reason why you get met with hostility. The other reason is that your arguments generally get blown out of the water.

If you feel oppressed, it must be my fault. Not yours.


Are you done yet?
 
2012-10-30 06:28:22 PM
I am not a person for Cristie... but a tip o' the hat for giving "it's due" where it belongs.
 
2012-10-30 06:43:01 PM
Christie impressed the hell out of me today with his focus on what is important: the people he was elected to serve. This is the kind of republican and politician I was raised to expect - and makes me hope the party could someday get its act together.

In the meantime, we're donating to the Red Cross and seeing what else we can do through our church's outreach efforts. Both groups have organizations in place.

And please, please donate money not items like clothing or food .These organizations have buying programs in place so their dollars go farther and they buy exactly what they need and arrange to get it exactly where it needs to go. Item donations pull volunteers away from clean up efforts and survivor support to sort and figure out what to do with stuff.
 
2012-10-30 06:58:01 PM
Did he say BACON!?
 
2012-10-30 07:03:47 PM

Elandriel: Genevieve Marie: That's odd behavior for someone who ostensibly supports MItt Romney.

He's thinking about his own upcoming re-election, I'd guess. NJ is still pretty blue, even with CC in charge, and he needs to lay groundwork to proclaim himself totes reasonable.

Or, maybe he's actually being a governor of a state instead of just a partisan Republican.


I think he just calls it like he sees it. He gave Obama praise because Obama has been there for his state. He also ripped apart the mayor of Atlantic City for talking some of his residents into staying in the city instead of obeying the evacuation order.

I'm an independent but I definitely think we need more politicians like Christie no matter what party they belong to.
 
2012-10-30 07:40:47 PM

moonscatter: And please, please donate money not items like clothing or food .These organizations have buying programs in place so their dollars go farther and they buy exactly what they need and arrange to get it exactly where it needs to go. Item donations pull volunteers away from clean up efforts and survivor support to sort and figure out what to do with stuff.


I don't have any money, but I have stuff. Guess I can't give anything.
 
2012-10-30 09:18:17 PM
I'm a little cynical, but I've seen Christie's remarks, and a few of his interviews.
I'd like to think I can be a pretty good judge of character, and his attitude, body language, tone of voice....all of that showed me someone who was being sincere and seriously didn't give a goddamn about politics. What I heard was strength and authority and a serious tone that said "Yea, I know---but i don't care right now."

That's the type of person I want as a leader.
 
2012-10-30 10:42:39 PM

spelletrader: Say what you want about Christie, but he's always been pretty damn straight forward, if not downright blunt. It's obvious that he cares more about the people in his state than he does about any political bullshiat going on and will not politicize this tragedy for anyone.

Does he look like the mayor from "Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs"? Yes, yes he does.


He straight up lied on the questionnaire that led a non profit I worked w to endorse him before. Still, I'll give him props for this. They're sure as hell not gonna endorse him next time though.
 
2012-10-30 10:53:19 PM

Genevieve Marie: Elandriel: Or, maybe he's actually being a governor of a state instead of just a partisan Republican.

You know, I'd chalk it up to that too if the praise wasn't so effusive. He very easily could have said something more along the lines of "President Obama and Fema have been very helpful and we appreciate their efforts" and that would still have been the right thing to do.
 
But I mean... he gave all kinds of detail on how the President went above and beyond, mentioning late night calls so the President could personally help expedite the disaster area declaration and also talking about how the President made sure he had a personal number to reach him in case he has any other needs.

That's... above and beyond normal praise. Nice to hear, for sure. But I still wonder if maybe there's something else going on there. Maybe Romney irked him this week, or maybe like you said, he's looking out for his own reelection prospects. Or who knows, maybe he's just being a decent guy and telling the truth?

Whole thing is weird though and I'm not quite sure what to make of it.


It's all scripted. It's a work based on Mayor Ray Nagin's rant post-Katrina about FEMA. He's using the whole "I'm a tough guy hero leader captain because I said the right thing at the right moment and everyone thought it was genuine but I knew full well that I would be approached about photo ops so I had calculated it to look organic" trick.

I think he was honest though. It's not that weird because he has been awake for probably a couple days and he's dealing with a huge amount of stress, so he simply didn't want to deal with any bullshiat. His tolerance for bullshiat is at an all time low, hence the soundbite. There's this weird rush coming off of a hurricane, I can't describe it. You're still kind of dealing with what happened. He seems like the real deal.

Honestly though I don't think he was honest. I think he lied. It's political posturing by NOT resorting to political posturing. Soundbites like this are most delicious to him. So I think this is all fake.

This is a good story Chris Christie is a good man and truthful and full of honors. This is a good story to come out of the hurricane.

Chris Christie said he didn't want to do the photo opportunity because he shoveled 1438 ho hos down his gullet and they had to de-fart him with the Oompa Loompas like what happened to Violet because he was a bad boy for trying to sell his everlasting gobstopper aka soul to Slugworth, aka Mitt Romney.

Chris Christie could have just eaten the hurricane. This is all his fault. Chris Christie doesn't care about eating non-palatable hurricanes.
 
2012-10-31 01:19:48 AM
Christie doesn't respond well to hack reporters trying to bait an answer out of him, so instead of being tricked into partisanship, he recognized the usual bullshiat from the media and gave and over the top explanation contrary to what the hack media was expecting. Pretty simple.
 
2012-10-31 10:26:12 AM

USP .45: Christie doesn't respond well to hack reporters trying to bait an answer out of him, so instead of being tricked into partisanship, he recognized the usual bullshiat from the media and gave and over the top explanation contrary to what the hack media was expecting. Pretty simple.


This. It was less olive branch and less 2016 strategy and more "screw off, a-holes, I've got my own problems right now".
 
2012-10-31 04:25:55 PM

Zapruder: USP .45: Christie doesn't respond well to hack reporters trying to bait an answer out of him, so instead of being tricked into partisanship, he recognized the usual bullshiat from the media and gave and over the top explanation contrary to what the hack media was expecting. Pretty simple.

This. It was less olive branch and less 2016 strategy and more "screw off, a-holes, I've got my own problems right now".


Meh, who cares? CC is an asshole, but that's forgivable and assholishness aside he knows how to be at least remotely non-ghoulish (which is sad that that is A Thing) and what should matter will be his policies.

And they'll suck, but that's a "then" problem.
 
2012-10-31 11:01:43 PM
Now wait a minute sir, I am a 65 year old life long New Jersey resident. But,when you bring BACON into the equation,that changes things.
 
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