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(Talking Points Memo)   Norm Coleman reassures Ohio Jews that Romney won't repeal Roe v. Wade. Even though Romney has stated that this is his goal. Feel better?   (2012.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 94
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2012-10-30 09:22:08 AM  
Ted Kennedy said it best: "I"m pro-choice. My opponent is multiple choice."
 
2012-10-30 09:23:24 AM  
Norm Coleman is skeazy, lying, sack of shiat.
 
2012-10-30 09:24:05 AM  
How can a President override a Supreme Court decision?
 
2012-10-30 09:31:44 AM  

cman: How can a President override a Supreme Court decision?


By replacing liberal judges with fundie f*cktard judges on the Supreme Court.
 
2012-10-30 09:52:24 AM  
To be fair, he's also said it isn't his goal.
 
2012-10-30 09:58:11 AM  

RussianPooper: To be fair, he's also said it isn't his goal.


Which means he'll do it.
 
2012-10-30 12:00:49 PM  

swaniefrmreddeer: cman: How can a President override a Supreme Court decision?

By replacing liberal judges with fundie f*cktard judges on the Supreme Court.


yup. And Romney would do it too, he'd put a bunch of far right wing hard core pro-corporate religious nutballs on the Supreme Court and f*ck up this country for the next 20 years. then he'd giggle and go have lunch with his preacher.
 
2012-10-30 12:04:14 PM  
Is that what Romney believes today? Maybe Norm is talking about tomorrowRomney. I'm sure the website will be updated shortly.
 
2012-10-30 12:04:26 PM  
I thought that little black dude was dead.
 
2012-10-30 12:17:15 PM  
Even if Romney packed the court, Roe v. Wade is settled law. You need to find a new legal attack on it. You can't just file a case in federal court and expect it to be appealed to SCOTUS and overturn Roe v. Wade. Every legal attack has already been tried. They won't re-hear the case.
 
2012-10-30 12:19:09 PM  

dramboxf: Even if Romney packed the court, Roe v. Wade is settled law. You need to find a new legal attack on it. You can't just file a case in federal court and expect it to be appealed to SCOTUS and overturn Roe v. Wade. Every legal attack has already been tried. They won't re-hear the case.


When someone has an agenda to push, they will push it no matter what. Everyone else be damned; what they want is more important than anything else.
 
2012-10-30 12:26:25 PM  

dramboxf: Even if Romney packed the court, Roe v. Wade is settled law.


So was Plessy v Fergusson, and Minersville v Gobitis had an even faster turnaround. The conservatives just need to pack the court with justices friendly to overturning Roe v Wade, and then find a case where someone can make a pitch on an angle that they can vaguely color as not having been fully considered. At that point, they can unsettle the law.
 
2012-10-30 12:35:28 PM  

cman: dramboxf: Even if Romney packed the court, Roe v. Wade is settled law. You need to find a new legal attack on it. You can't just file a case in federal court and expect it to be appealed to SCOTUS and overturn Roe v. Wade. Every legal attack has already been tried. They won't re-hear the case.

When someone has an agenda to push, they will push it no matter what. Everyone else be damned; what they want is more important than anything else.


I would think all the anti-abortion rhetoric that's been slung about lately would've made this evident to anybody.
 
2012-10-30 01:01:09 PM  

cman: When someone has an agenda to push, they will push it no matter what. Everyone else be damned; what they want is more important than anything else.


www.addictinginfo.org
You talking about me? want to fight?
 
2012-10-30 01:03:53 PM  

dramboxf: Even if Romney packed the court, Roe v. Wade is settled law. You need to find a new legal attack on it. You can't just file a case in federal court and expect it to be appealed to SCOTUS and overturn Roe v. Wade. Every legal attack has already been tried. They won't re-hear the case.


The Supreme Court isn't bound by stare decisis - they can overturn any precedent they wish. And given that the Court now has four hard right activists champing at the bit to overturn Roe (and most of the New Deal for that matter) they will take any case that gives them the slightest foothold to destroy the last 70 years of jurisprudence.
 
2012-10-30 01:04:18 PM  

dramboxf: Every legal attack has already been tried. They won't re-hear the case.


They haven't tried challenging the 20 week bans yet

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/21/ohio-late-term-abortion-b_n_ 9 06068.html

Put ANY challenge in front of a disingenuous partisan ass like Scalia/Thomas and he'll find a reason to overturn RvW on the most tenuous possible grounds. An entire court of similar (as Romney's website acknowledges directly is the goal)?

Yeah, there's a good chance of an overturn.
 
2012-10-30 01:04:25 PM  

Weaver95: swaniefrmreddeer: cman: How can a President override a Supreme Court decision?

By replacing liberal judges with fundie f*cktard judges on the Supreme Court.

yup. And Romney would do it too, he'd put a bunch of far right wing hard core pro-corporate religious nutballs on the Supreme Court and f*ck up this country for the next 20 years. then he'd giggle and go have lunch with his preacher.


Forgive me for being a "BOTH SIDES ARE BAD!" guy, but Obama's appointees haven't exactly been anti-corporate. Kagan's conduct in Wiley v. Kirtsaeng is kind of troubling in that regard.
 
2012-10-30 01:05:32 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Weaver95: swaniefrmreddeer: cman: How can a President override a Supreme Court decision?

By replacing liberal judges with fundie f*cktard judges on the Supreme Court.

yup. And Romney would do it too, he'd put a bunch of far right wing hard core pro-corporate religious nutballs on the Supreme Court and f*ck up this country for the next 20 years. then he'd giggle and go have lunch with his preacher.

Forgive me for being a "BOTH SIDES ARE BAD!" guy, but Obama's appointees haven't exactly been anti-corporate. Kagan's conduct in Wiley v. Kirtsaeng is kind of troubling in that regard.


granted...but if anyone would stack the court with a bunch of pro-corporate stooges...it'd be Romney. And he'd use it as a talking point for his re-election campaign.
 
2012-10-30 01:05:41 PM  
Coleman, the guy who won cause Wellstone died, then lost his reelection bid to a comedian.

Seriously Romney, that's all you got?
 
2012-10-30 01:05:41 PM  
There is an ad here (VA area) running in heavy rotation that goes more or less like this:

Lady: "A woman's right to choose is important to me, so I was concerned about Romney.

But the liberals' ads aren't true -- Mitt Romney doesn't want to outlaw abortion; he supports it in case of rape or incest.

That's good enough for me."

robinbrown.co.uk
 
2012-10-30 01:07:15 PM  
I've said it once and I'll say it again. Rmoney will not win. We will have four more years of Fartbongo and it will be okay.
 
2012-10-30 01:09:01 PM  
The one issue abortocentrists are the worst kind of voter ever.
 
2012-10-30 01:09:03 PM  

NowhereMon: Norm Coleman is skeazy, lying, sack of shiat.


Coleman is a opportunist scumbag. But even as an opportunist scumbag the dude was a moderate and a decent senator and mayor. Plus he did the right thing and didn't pursue the recount court challenges beyond the state courts when he ran against Franken.

/although I did enjoy the look on this face when he lost to Jesse Ventura for Governor - it was a look of complete disbelief
 
2012-10-30 01:09:14 PM  
Rmoney will say whatever he thinks at the moment will get his blue blood ass into the white house so he can start cutting taxes for his rich friends who own large companies.

the Nation be damned.


they call that Freedom.
 
2012-10-30 01:09:58 PM  
No state is going to outlaw abortion because it would make them an instant pariah. Even if the issue gets sent back to the states. You want to see boycotts and protests that actually matter? Put the government in charge of pregnancy.

Sure, the socons crow about it but even most of them aren't that stupid. They would rather just heap regulations on top of regulations on abortions, and just run places out of business.

Like taxes, both sides hyperventilate about abortion to push their overall agenda. And, lie like hell in the process.
 
2012-10-30 01:10:39 PM  
If Norm Coleman told me the sky was blue I'd have to go check. So glad I don't have to be embarrassed by having this smirky little weasel as my senator anymore.
 
2012-10-30 01:12:26 PM  

cman: dramboxf: Even if Romney packed the court, Roe v. Wade is settled law. You need to find a new legal attack on it. You can't just file a case in federal court and expect it to be appealed to SCOTUS and overturn Roe v. Wade. Every legal attack has already been tried. They won't re-hear the case.

When someone has an agenda to push, they will push it no matter what. Everyone else be damned; what they want is more important than anything else.


Oh, that's just not true. For example, remember way way back before Obama was elected, a couple nutballs tried to claim that he wasn't an American citizen? Once it was pointed out that he was born to an American mother in Hawaii, they stopped caring.
 
2012-10-30 01:13:47 PM  

xanadian: I thought that little black dude was dead.


What you talkin bout?
 
2012-10-30 01:14:15 PM  
This whole "Vote for Mitt, he's not actually going to do all the crazy shiat he said he'd do" talking point that I've been seeing is mind-blowing.
 
2012-10-30 01:14:43 PM  

FlashHarry: Ted Kennedy said it best: "I"m pro-choice. My opponent is multiple choice."



Sweet. and true.
 
2012-10-30 01:15:01 PM  
Don't believe what you see,
Just believe what I say...
 
2012-10-30 01:15:09 PM  
Six states have banned abortion after 20 weeks on the theory that the fetus can feel pain at that point. The handful of states have pressed ahead even though the theory has been rejected by mainstream medical organizations in the United States and Britain, The New York Times reported.

Nebraska passed the first of the laws last year and has since been followed by Alabama, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, and Oklahoma. The laws clash with Supreme Court rulings that say abortion can only be banned if the fetus is viable, a point usually reached at the 24th week of pregnancy, the Times reported.

Read more on Newsmax.com: Six States Proceed With Abortion Ban
 
2012-10-30 01:15:11 PM  

Tax Boy: There is an ad here (VA area) running in heavy rotation that goes more or less like this:

Lady: "A woman's right to choose is important to me, so I was concerned about Romney.

But the liberals' ads aren't true -- Mitt Romney doesn't want to outlaw abortion; he supports it in case of rape or incest.

That's good enough for me."

[robinbrown.co.uk image 640x512]


I liked how they had her in the kitchen.
 
2012-10-30 01:15:24 PM  
How many Jews are there is Ohio?
 
2012-10-30 01:15:38 PM  

cman: How can a President override a Supreme Court decision?



he can't. all a pres can do is appoint a new judge when a slot becomes available.
 
2012-10-30 01:16:55 PM  

Straight to doom: I've said it once and I'll say it again. Rmoney will not win. We will have four more years of Fartbongo and it will be okay.



better Fartbongo than the dorky dude with his tongue up wealthy ass.
 
2012-10-30 01:16:57 PM  
He's just not that funny
 
2012-10-30 01:17:13 PM  
i90.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-30 01:17:43 PM  

Muta: How many Jews are there is Ohio?



too many?

ok, that thar waz racist!
 
2012-10-30 01:18:37 PM  

hammettman: [i90.photobucket.com image 480x360]



that's about it.
 
2012-10-30 01:20:23 PM  

cman: How can a President override a Supreme Court decision?


You are aware the the president PICKS SUPREME COURT JUSTICES?
 
2012-10-30 01:20:28 PM  

gingerjet: Coleman is a opportunist scumbag. But even as an opportunist scumbag the dude was a moderate and a decent senator and mayor. Plus he did the right thing and didn't pursue the recount court challenges beyond the state courts when he ran against Franken.

/although I did enjoy the look on this face when he lost to Jesse Ventura for Governor - it was a look of complete disbelief


Didn't he file multiple suits and drag it out for eight months?
 
2012-10-30 01:20:38 PM  
He's being honest in a GOP way. Of course the GOP isn't going to overturn Roe v Wade. Just as the Dems aren't going to take guns away. These are prime rabble rousing ideas around which many votes turn. The fact they NEED a Republican to fight these Dems and remove RvW and the votes that gets is gone once RvW is gone.
 
2012-10-30 01:20:52 PM  

NowhereMon: Norm Coleman is skeazy, lying, sack of shiat.


Well that would explain why he's stumping for Romney, then.

Also, Romney's that desperate that he's willing to drag up Norm Coleman to shill for him?
 
2012-10-30 01:20:58 PM  
Why do you think we have seen so many ridiculous abortion bills lately? The republicans are hoping one of these bills results in a legal challenge that goes all the way to the Robert's Supreme Court.
 
2012-10-30 01:21:19 PM  

Muta: How many Jews are there is Ohio?


Wikipedia says 148,380 (1.3%)
 
2012-10-30 01:22:12 PM  

Copperbelly watersnake: Why do you think we have seen so many ridiculous abortion bills lately?


The GOPS's laser-like focus on jobs?
 
2012-10-30 01:23:09 PM  
Dear Mr. RMoney,

I don't know about the rest of the women in your life but please believe me when I say that we are not all stupid.

Sincerely,

One of "those" women
 
2012-10-30 01:23:19 PM  

Copperbelly watersnake: Why do you think we have seen so many ridiculous abortion bills lately? The republicans are hoping one of these bills results in a legal challenge that goes all the way to the Robert's Supreme Court.


They will break the sound barrier taking a challenge for both the Voting Rights Act and Roe vs Wade if Romney is elected and he stacks the SCOTUS with more fascists.
 
2012-10-30 01:23:44 PM  

barneyfifesbullet: No state is going to outlaw abortion because it would make them an instant pariah. Even if the issue gets sent back to the states. You want to see boycotts and protests that actually matter? Put the government in charge of pregnancy.

Sure, the socons crow about it but even most of them aren't that stupid. They would rather just heap regulations on top of regulations on abortions, and just run places out of business.

Like taxes, both sides hyperventilate about abortion to push their overall agenda. And, lie like hell in the process.


Missouri. Mississippi. Texas.
 
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